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Slinky, starry, 14:26:42, 3/01/2001 Wolf, starry, 14:29:05, 3/01/2001, (#1) First Of All...., Voyager, 14:41:41, 3/01/2001, (#2) I have, starry, 15:05:33, 3/01/2001, (#3) I'm concerned too., Twitch, 15:07:33, 3/01/2001, (#4) Twitch, starry, 15:24:53, 3/01/2001, (#5) Slinky, Sailer, 15:29:16, 3/01/2001, (#6) I'm Puzzled, Bets, 15:36:20, 3/01/2001, (#8) OK guys, Shamrockgirl, 15:31:30, 3/01/2001, (#7) Sailer, Twitch, 15:43:30, 3/01/2001, (#9) Slinky is alive and well, mary99, 15:45:28, 3/01/2001, (#10) Mary99, Shamrockgirl, 15:52:58, 3/01/2001, (#12) mary, Twitch, 15:48:57, 3/01/2001, (#11) It's a strange situation, Tricia, 16:06:19, 3/01/2001, (#13) I emailed her., Twitch, 16:18:53, 3/01/2001, (#14) Hmmm, Annette, 16:39:03, 3/01/2001, (#15) Annette and Mary99, starry, 16:51:25, 3/01/2001, (#16) OK, Gemini, 17:52:23, 3/01/2001, (#20) Didn't Mean To Leave...., Voyager, 17:34:47, 3/01/2001, (#18) Starry et al, Cassandra, 17:25:00, 3/01/2001, (#17) Thank You, Cassie, starry, 17:43:57, 3/01/2001, (#19) or Cassie, Gemini, 17:56:38, 3/01/2001, (#21) I got an email from Slinky., Twitch, 18:35:47, 3/01/2001, (#23) Puhleeeze!, LurkerXIV, 18:24:52, 3/01/2001, (#22) Next on the agenda, Gemini, 18:51:36, 3/01/2001, (#24) Why not just , Holly, 06:49:31, 3/02/2001, (#39) Gemini, Chris, 20:26:29, 3/01/2001, (#28) who's ZZoooomin' who?, mary99, 19:17:58, 3/01/2001, (#26) Thanks, Lurker, starry, 19:11:06, 3/01/2001, (#25) my two cents, pip, 19:51:58, 3/01/2001, (#27) Pip, Shamrockgirl, 21:17:54, 3/01/2001, (#30) I say..., v_p, 21:15:51, 3/01/2001, (#29) I Am Sad and Very Very...., Voyager, 21:46:03, 3/01/2001, (#31) Chris, Gemini, 22:49:32, 3/01/2001, (#33) Gemini., Holly, 22:42:06, 3/01/2001, (#32) Holly, Gemini, 22:52:25, 3/01/2001, (#34) Gemini. 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I forgot, Holly, 23:28:13, 3/01/2001, (#36) I'm just in the , Holly, 23:23:02, 3/01/2001, (#35) LOL Holly, Gemini, 23:38:48, 3/01/2001, (#37) I never got another email from Slinky., Twitch, 06:06:20, 3/02/2001, (#38) my too cents, Scully, 08:01:46, 3/02/2001, (#40) Thank you Scully, starry, 08:50:01, 3/02/2001, (#41) Points Taken...., Voyager, 10:07:32, 3/02/2001, (#42) Some people just have to gossip, Seeker, 20:51:01, 3/02/2001, (#43) Seeker, Chris, 05:07:28, 3/03/2001, (#44) Chris, Seeker, 08:20:38, 3/03/2001, (#45) Don't believe everything you hear., Twitch, 09:05:24, 3/03/2001, (#46) twitch, ayelean, 11:31:17, 3/03/2001, (#51) FYI, Chris, 10:15:45, 3/03/2001, (#47) Has anyone..., LurkerXIV, 10:34:33, 3/03/2001, (#48) LurkerXIV, Chris, 10:38:08, 3/03/2001, (#49) Well, darby, 11:36:21, 3/03/2001, (#52) Could we, then,, Twitch, 11:20:06, 3/03/2001, (#50) Ayelean, Twitch, 12:34:34, 3/03/2001, (#53) Lurker, whitefox, 13:57:03, 3/03/2001, (#54) Darby, Annette, 14:22:18, 3/03/2001, (#55) Annette, pip, 16:41:10, 3/03/2001, (#57) um, twitch..., pip, 16:03:05, 3/03/2001, (#56) Annette, darby, 16:45:05, 3/03/2001, (#58) Darby, pip, 17:07:38, 3/03/2001, (#60) Darby, Annette, 17:01:20, 3/03/2001, (#59) pip, darby, 17:14:58, 3/03/2001, (#63) sorry to be , whitefox, 17:09:09, 3/03/2001, (#61) whitefox, pip, 17:10:57, 3/03/2001, (#62) thanks pip, whitefox, 17:19:45, 3/03/2001, (#64) Pip, Annette, 17:34:03, 3/03/2001, (#67) Darby..., Pedro, 17:27:02, 3/03/2001, (#65) Email to Sylvia., Pedro, 17:27:37, 3/03/2001, (#66) My private..., Pedro, 18:06:24, 3/03/2001, (#68) pip, Annette, Twitch, 18:20:57, 3/03/2001, (#69) Pedro, WOW!, LurkerXIV, 18:31:36, 3/03/2001, (#70) Diplomacy..., Pedro, 18:35:51, 3/03/2001, (#71) Pedro,, LurkerXIV, 08:23:51, 3/04/2001, (#72) Just stopped by to see what's up, Cassandra, 17:02:54, 3/04/2001, (#73) ................................................................... "Slinky" Posted by starry on 14:26:42 3/01/2001 OK, We have a problem. Like it or not, we do. Voyager, is right. None of us would be happy to hear of Slinky's death, no matter how mad or sick we are of her. What can we do? What should we do? Where do we draw boundries? When does it stop? Any ideas? [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Wolf" Posted by starry on 14:29:05 3/01/2001 Slinky has proclaimed to be on her deathbed other times. What makes this time different? Maybe it's not. Maybe it is. Does anyone have any phone numbers of Slinky's family? E-mail address, names? anything? Any ideas on what needs to be done? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "First Of All...." Posted by Voyager on 14:41:41 3/01/2001 I know some will say we have no responsibility... but from the descriptions I have heard from some of the posters here, Slinky does have some serious mental issues. Sometimes I think that life throws us together in the same small groups for reasons unknown to us, but once an aquaintance is made, as human beings, there is some sort of responsibility.... I do not think we are required to keep on facilitating Slinky's lies and myths, but I do think she is entitled to some medical help. I do not have her e-mail any longer...only wrote her once to thank her for her good wishes when I was ill, and never even knew how she got my e-mail either....but I know there are those who do have it and some have mentioned speaking to her by phone and knowing the hospitals in her town or area. There must be someone who could be notified, family, friends, public heath official....I am not sure...Are there any forum members who are in the health field who might have a clue about what to do for someone with her condition....I can imagine that without some kind of therapy or medication, it will only worsen... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "I have" Posted by starry on 15:05:33 3/01/2001 Her phone number, or what was her phone number in 99 and her e-mail... but is that going to help? I've heard from someone just a min ago who says she's home and online and trying to get them to "chat" with them via AOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "I'm concerned too." Posted by Twitch on 15:07:33 3/01/2001 But I don't know what to do. I have her email address if you want me to email her. But I don't know what good that would do. I don't even know exactly where she lives. I'd be glad to contact social services or someone in her community, but I don't know where that is. Let me know what ya'll think. I'll be glad to help. Sailer? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Twitch" Posted by starry on 15:24:53 3/01/2001 I have her town. I will e-mail you with it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Slinky" Posted by Sailer on 15:29:16 3/01/2001 is home. She's fine. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "I'm Puzzled" Posted by Bets on 15:36:20 3/01/2001 I haven't followed the whole Slinky saga. Could someone fill me in? I gather she's prone to tall tales but why did she get thrown off the forum? Here's the tricky part to an "intervention". This isn't real life, folks. Maybe she's just a darn good story writer who has an audience and a need to write up crazy, zany, attention-getting junk. And maybe it has nothing to do with her real life. Do people know enough about her to actually feel like she is in danger? And how would you go about finding out? (Don't misunderstand me - if she's really a psycho, suicidal "code six wingnut" then I'm with Voyager 100 percent. Get her some help. But, I'm just wondering if she doesn't just have way too much imagination and creative writing skills and is able to write this fiction up and then get off the computer and go live a normal life??) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "OK guys" Posted by Shamrockgirl on 15:31:30 3/01/2001 I know you are concerned about Slinky but that is what she wants..your attention...don't you all get it. She calls or e-mails different things to different people and when they get together they find out how duped they all have been, that's why some of us are so freaking po'd at her. Last night in chat we were informed that she was out of the hospital and her coma...but would be going back in today...so since I am in her area really just in New England...I checked and found 4 hospitals that are right around her town...and this afternooon I called to check on her "status" I was told by everyone of them that "there was no person by that name (her real one) in the hospital" I then asked if said person was going to be admitted sometime today..and guess what...she was not going to be admitted at any of them to their knowledge. There is a chance she's going to another hosptial but they all would be quite a drive from the area she is in. She has cried wolf too many times for me to get upset.....what you all are doing wringing your hands with worry is feeding that ego of hers. She just loves all the attention you are giving her. If you believe all the crap she has written...that's your problem, not ours in JW. She has been banned for good reason. Chris banned her not us. I didn't know she was banned until a few days ago myself. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Sailer" Posted by Twitch on 15:43:30 3/01/2001 Are you sure she isn't suicidal? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Slinky is alive and well" Posted by mary99 on 15:45:28 3/01/2001 and posting under a different hat at another forum. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Mary99" Posted by Shamrockgirl on 15:52:58 3/01/2001 Ok lots of rumors of her posting with other hats on other forums...off the record which forum and what hat? Inquiring minds want to know? is it on the "new fourm" Passage Nouveau? Let me know please....thanks. Wow just didn't know you could bounce back from a coma that well LOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "mary" Posted by Twitch on 15:48:57 3/01/2001 Are you positive. Where? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "It's a strange situation" Posted by Tricia on 16:06:19 3/01/2001 Yes nobody wants to see a mentally ill person harm themselves, however you can only do so much for a person before you throw your hands up in frustration. If I may make a suggestion. If somebody knows her town and phone number call a state mental health office in the area and ask them to check on her. Also you can call police dispatch and tell them you think someone might need some help. If you are really worried about her well being this would be a simple way to handle it. She could be playing everybody for the fool. Which is a big part of her illness it sounds like. Or she could need help now. I don't know. Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "I emailed her." Posted by Twitch on 16:18:53 3/01/2001 I'd like to hear directly from her. I don't know what else to do. If I don't hear maybe I'll call the sheriff. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Hmmm" Posted by Annette on 16:39:03 3/01/2001 ...Guess we can assume the surgery went well today. Slinky has NO intention of suicide, she has a wedding to plan,her only concern was that she might not survive the serious surgery she was facing today. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Annette and Mary99" Posted by starry on 16:51:25 3/01/2001 Did she show up in chat last night? Mary are you talking about the Z person over at LePassage? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "OK" Posted by Gemini on 17:52:23 3/01/2001 Just going to post about this once. I trust Sailer's judgement because it seems likely he's more aware of both sides of the "slinky" issue than most here. My take on Slinky is similar to some of the things Twitch has expressed. IF it weren't for the Panico-episode (emails), which I don't know about personally but have heard, like most of you, third-hand, I wouldn't have a big problem with Slinky. Yes, she is a tale-spinner. Yes, this could indicate some kind of delusional illness ... or just an outlandish imagination. Whichever, I'm at a loss to see how some of the posters who are currently (and who have in the recent past) thrashing and trashing Slinky have been hurt by this stuff. Nobody can force anyone to move away from the forum into an email situation with anyone else. If she was causing you grief ... why didn't you simply snuff the contact? For a few of you, it's starting to look like Slinky is being used to fill a need to feed on the perceived faults of ... someone ... maybe just anyone. This sometimes shows up as Ramsey feeding frenzy, and I've often thought it is mostly indicative of some base and negative need in the feeders. Otherwise, why not just shrug, grimace and say, "slinky, we don't believe a word of that ... get outta here wit'cher silly self". Why form packs and go off to chat and/or email and feed, feed, feed? Personally, I think that's disgusting. The Slinky/Panico situation, if factually presented, is another matter. There's no excuse good enough for hassling Pan. But still, I have to wonder ... why wasn't Slinky called out for it at the time? Why wasn't she asked, "what the hell do you think you're doing"? Why was all that information stored away and just now brought out as frenzy-feed-food? After the, obviously phoney, brain surgery and some of the other flights of fantasy, I started paying attention to Slinky's posts. One thing I noted was that she actually brought a lot to the forum. As a poster, she was unfailingly kind ... especially to newbies. She read others posts and took care to encourage and sympathize and call attention to some of the little things others of us may have just skimmed through. She never seemed to take delight in belittling or under-mining or patronizing; things we see on a daily basis from some who are STILL pounding away at the Slink - "oh boo hoo ... she might have tried to make us look foolish". I really doubt that, BTW ... maybe I'm just gullible, or maybe I don't live in fear of "looking silly" (it happens, I can live with that : ) ), but my best guess is Slinky mostly wanted to be accepted. And, my best advice is, if you must feed ... do it here and get it over with ... then move on and let the poster known as Slinky do the same. There's no honor in gnawing at her bones. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Didn't Mean To Leave...." Posted by Voyager on 17:34:47 3/01/2001 you guys hanging once I started the conversation, but I had to leave and take Lilly to her acupunture appointment, and stopped at the grocery. Twitch, I do not know what the sherrif could or would do in this situation since there is no crime and no threat of a crime. I just did not like the sound of what Annette said about Slinky e-mailing people to say "in case I don't make it" type of thing. That is the type of thing seriously depressed people say, and is often taken as a warning of impending self-harm... Sailer says that Slinky is home and fine...do you know that for a certainty Sailer? I hope very much that I just over-reacted to the implication....maybe since she is writing for another forum, and is still chatting and e-mailing, she is not isolated as I assumed. Twitch, if you call her will that put you in a bad position? I seem to remember that you were on the bad end of some lies she told, and I do not want you endangered or hurt by all this either... I just don't know....how long has Slinky been around and have there been these types on life threatening statements before? I come to the forum often, but never remember seeing anything about deathly illness etc....have these always been in chat or e-mail? It really is hard when one does not live in the RL community, but only in the cyber one, to help someone with a mental illnessm cause like you all are trying to figure out, who do you contact and what do you say.... Do you think she is like Bets suggests, just one hell of a writer, with no life?....Gosh, maybe the best thing we could do for her is to hook her up with a good publisher! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Starry et al" Posted by Cassandra on 17:25:00 3/01/2001 Starry: Yep. Z at CS, I hear. To those who want to get involved: I can't tell you how many times people got upset over one of her fantasies. She emailed me about her drunken brother who had beaten her so badly in the face after she took him in, that her facial bones were very fragile, blah, blah, blah. She took me in at first. I was horrified at her awful sufferings at the hands of her family. I was so sympathetic and supportive, and then came the phantom brain surgery, and her toying with Panico, and then her cruelty to Panico. Never again did she take me into her fantasy world, and never again did I answer one of her plaintive emails. You are only looking for trouble if you get involved. So many have been there before you. Listen to them. You will regret it, and you will be played for a fool. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Thank You, Cassie" Posted by starry on 17:43:57 3/01/2001 I had suspected something like that, but wasn't sure if it has been confirmed. So, I guess there's nothing we need to do. If she's posting, it's business as usual. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "or Cassie" Posted by Gemini on 17:56:38 3/01/2001 It was a learning experience from which you now realize many things online are not as they seem ... and are wiser and stronger for it. Just feel fortunate your woes bagan and ended on that little screen. Some of us have gone through much worse and survived to be reeeeaaalllll cautious. Good lesson for you. Move on. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "I got an email from Slinky." Posted by Twitch on 18:39:56 3/01/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:39:56, 3/01/2001 She was sitting down to dinner with her family and said she would reply in length later but wanted me to know she is ok. If she is truly with family, she is not isolated. Thank you Vger and starry for being concerned. I think its safe to move on now. I truly hope this is the last of it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Puhleeeze!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 18:24:52 3/01/2001 I don't want to offend the good hearts and gentle people on this thread, but slinky is not in imminent danger of suicide! The most she will do is kill off one of her numerous "hats". slinky is posting happily away at a site far far away in a distant galaxy. She is doing her usual shtick: starting prayer threads, overloading the site with her gaudy graphics, and rounding up home addresses from unsuspecting "marks" by offering to send books and gifts to their homes!!!!! And using up all the excalamation points in the universe!!!!! So put your minds at ease, kind souls. slinky is sucking in a whole new group of posters,and all is right in her twisted little world. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Next on the agenda" Posted by Gemini on 18:51:36 3/01/2001 Which chat/email gossip circuit liar-head told Bob Cooksey they knew for a fact I work for John Ramsey? ehhhhhhh??? I reallllly wanna know. In case no humble confessions and apologies are forthcoming, anyone who wants can rat them out by emailing thegypsy3000@yahoo.com heheheheheh (excellent advice L-XIV. If she's just looking for acceptance, she'll learn ... eventually. If she's really ill, I have to think someone in her RL is aware of the problems and in a better position to intervene) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Why not just " Posted by Holly on 06:49:31 3/02/2001 ask Bob who told him? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Gemini" Posted by Chris on 20:26:29 3/01/2001 ...are you serious!?!? The only person I've noticed who is crazy enough to make that accusation is the dead one. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "who's ZZoooomin' who?" Posted by mary99 on 19:17:58 3/01/2001 is right. Look, I don't want to be accused of feeding the Lector household, but it seems to me she preyed on the genuinely good-hearted people of the forum by making up these dire emergencies, exhibiting an almost sadistic pleasure in twisting the emotions of those who believed her. When she sensed a sucker for her stories, she went in for the kill, designing plots that would make us ashamed to question her; illness, death, accidents, beatings, abuse...meanwhile making herself one of our most beloved, for her humor, her repartee, her helpfulness, her friendliness. Accept her as pathological; don't feel sorry for her for her delusions, she knows (and knew) exactly what she was doing and did so with full control. I notice the 'Z' person hasn't met any baby orphaned bears or moose in her home, hot tub or vehicle. Lurker, you pegged her perfectly as The Ultimate Troll. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Thanks, Lurker" Posted by starry on 19:11:06 3/01/2001 For the info. I hope you're right. Going to bed... night all... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "my two cents" Posted by pip on 19:51:58 3/01/2001 "...and the beat goes on" pip [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Pip" Posted by Shamrockgirl on 21:17:54 3/01/2001 LOL....same old crap going on.....Slinky is getting just what she wants all the attention, I only posted to inform the people who still believe her crap that her hospitalization today was a hoax....and anyone who has any sympathy for her is a sucker....... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "I say..." Posted by v_p on 21:15:51 3/01/2001 Wake up and smell the coffee for chit's sake. This is the internet where people can be whomever they want to be. They no longer surprise me. When deciding on where to place my trust here, I look at one thing ... how exciting is their life? I mean, real life is just not that damned exciting. Last time I was in the hospital was 16 years ago when my daughter was born. The most exciting thing that has happened to me lately was getting my brakes repaired for $250.00! Man, I yipped for 20 minutes with joy. Thought I'd be looking at at least $600 on a Camry. Anyway, the point is, I don't trust people on the net who are drama-mamas and pappas ... sadly, they are usually mammas. This is a perfect venue for people wanting attention ... it's your choice how much you believe, don't believe or want attention your ownself by playing into it. I've been part of a womyn's email club for 3 years. It's a private club of womyn who met in chat and wanted to share things thru email as a group. Through the years the group has dwindled from 24 to 12, all due to deception by other members. One person fooled us for a year ... rich, 42 year old wife of the owner of a car dealership and her perfect daughter. Beautiful house in Carmel, California. Maid, butler, shitsue, pool, lap top ... you know the drill. She even shared a story of her meeting with Clint Eastwood. We all decided to send paper cards one Christmas and exchanged our home addresses ... she couldn't share her address, the p.o. boxes were not secure, uh huh. I did a little investigating and guess what. This bitch was a man from San Diego who liked to dress like a woman. We were totally pissed to have been so deceived. We'd shared a lot in that year that only womyn share. Lesson learned. If it sounds too good, (or too awful), to be true..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "I Am Sad and Very Very...." Posted by Voyager on 21:46:03 3/01/2001 tired of worrying and thinking about this tortured person. I knew Panico for a long time during out parallel mememberships on several different JFJBR forums over the years, and she never ever mentioned Slinky or any hurts derived from her befriending Slinky.... Panico, like me, was not great at e-mail....we returned it when we got the chance, usually too late to be timely or to remember the whole purpose or conversation....RL aways got in the way! So the Slinky thing never was discussed between us....I am sure that many of you know much more about this and it breaks my heart to hear what I have heard of it.... Just want to do the right thing here and the human thing....wonder if Panico forgave her, and if they talked before she passed away...were they really good pals before the decepetion? I do not know the answer to that....I am sure Panico has forgiven, but knowing her, her realistic nature, she would say, "Let Slinky go her way, no bitterness, just move on, value the friends here and don't doubt them, stay together and fight for JFJBR" Say a prayer for those who are physically and mentally ill tonight and move on...that is what I am telling myself and what I am going to do...sounds like the person we have been worried about is just fine and I am glad for that. Thanks Twitch, and Starry especially for caring so much while those like me have worked through this difficult decision to "let her go"..... Like some of our solid and loyal posters who are experienced on the internet have discovered, she will move on to a new venue and be just fine... I just could not stop thinking that nothing could be worth someone taking their own life.....thank God that does not appear to be a possibility...thank all of you for your honesty....and Starry, glad you have gone for your rest....Goodnight Guys, Voyager [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Chris" Posted by Gemini on 22:49:32 3/01/2001 Well, I'm not seriously bent out of shape about it, but have been assured (a couple of times) this was the case. And, I've gotta admit (tho I was trying for levity here) I'd love to know the answer. What's interesting to me is how people who go behind the scenes and speculate beyond the case ... that is, about other forum folk ... don't seem to realize they are almost as guilty of doing damage as Slinky was. IMO, it's a toss up. While I'm here, I'm going to take the liberty of offering a suggestion to any of you who are hit on by people with (seemingly) overwhelming personal problems ... especially if they want to, somehow, involve you. If you're genuinely worried about them ... and if they are sending out cries for help because they have no one to turn to ... don't send money or, absolutely, don't seek them out in RT. Direct them to the public agency or charitable org. in their area that offers the kind of help they claim to need. If they reject that option, odds are they are not being straight with you. It's easy to look up the locations ... even the phone numbers. If push comes to shove - YOU call the office/org and have someone check on the person's need. A few years ago, a woman came into one of the Spirit forums on $$GEnie$$ and alarmed everyone with pitiful stories of how she and a seriously ill spouse were being physically abused by an adult daughter. She wanted us to contribute to a fund that would allow her to make arrangements to escape the situation. One of our members contacted the social services office in her area and reported what we had been told. It turned out the woman's claims were at least partly valid and the SS people took the steps needed to turn things around for her. If she had been attempting a scam, they'd have uncovered that, too. So, just use common sense, and, if you feel you want to help, try to do it in a cautious way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Gemini." Posted by Holly on 22:42:06 3/01/2001 I remember not too long ago when you demanded to know personal information about me. You were offended that there would be some "misunderstanding" related to my professional life. I remember Panico stepping in to set you straight. I'd say you're a real show me kinda gal. And pretty much no nonsense. Rather than just pass on what you you sensed might be deceit/boasting/tale spinning/absurdity, you demanded to know personal information and you didn't give a rat's ass how offensive that request was. So I guess I'm not surprised that you have no compassion for at least one poster, who might not be your equal in cyber toughness. Whether you like to think so or not, some people are easily frightened and believe the horrible things they are being told. And maybe you don't even know some of these things. So maybe, you are not fully informed. Oh well. Save the kick ass crap for someone else. And save the psycho-analyzing - unless you're in the field. It wouldn't hurt to show a little of a soft side to a poster/s who shared real concerns and fears. To suggest the revelations and shared experiences somehow are akin to a Ramsey feeding frenzy and fulfilling some kind of a deep need to bash, is hopelessly off mark. No one, not Slinky or anyone else, has the right to bully, scare, threaten or manipulate. This is a community of people with one shared goal - justice for JBR. Like all communities, there are the tough and amazingly resilient denizens and those more fragile. I say the bloodletting was not all bad. and while I found Slinky brimming with community spirit, some of it may have come with a heavy price. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Holly" Posted by Gemini on 22:56:55 3/01/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:56:55, 3/01/2001 That's BS. In a earlier post I'd read, you were implying you were a judge. I merely asked you to set the record straight. I think my question (for personal info) was ... "So Holly, ARE you a judge"? From my POV, I was giving you an opportunity to clear up a misunderstanding. edited to correct a typo and to add Holly, I had no idea you were so sensitive about getting us past the "judge" question ... and certainly no idea you were carrying so much hostility. Just as a passing thought ... are YOU aware of how much damage a run-amok-gossip-brigade can do? Do you care? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Gemini. Oh. I forgot" Posted by Holly on 23:28:13 3/01/2001 about the gossip brigade. Are you referring to you supposedly working for JR? Well, that sounds amazingly stoopid to me. I'm sure no one would ever buy it. I can't prove it's not so, but my gut says no way Jose. And yes, gossip can be God awful damaging. Look at Fishing Creek Farm. It made the WASHINGTON POST. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "I'm just in the " Posted by Holly on 23:23:02 3/01/2001 spirit of the WOR, for cripe sakes. Plus,I thought you were going to refrain from further comment, so I thought I would escape your immediate notice. :-) And what I said was, "in my court", in the context of providing some protocol insight, or some explanation. I'm trying to illustrate that sometimes it is just not so easy to shrug and say to yourself - Yeh, right. Whatever. You couldn't. Trust me, I'm past it. But I know of one person, who is hurting still from Slinky's goofiness. I'd like to show that poster a little compassion and understanding. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "LOL Holly" Posted by Gemini on 23:40:39 3/01/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 23:40:39, 3/01/2001 Yeah ... I knew you posted before my post to Chris went up ... therefore didn't know I was doin' late night rounds. Hey, I wasn't the only one who questioned you ... but it was mostly because a BUNCH of people were picking up on it and saying, "yeah, yeah ... Holly's a JUDGE" ... and you were not correcting them - just seeming to bask in the attention and let them continue to mis-think. I'm all for you getting all the attention you want : ) ... but not at the expense of letting folks believe something I was pretty sure couldn't be. Sorry you're still feeling the rug burns tho ... THAT kind of thing was not intended. With Slinky ... ah I don't know. I'm sorry Janphi went through a mess. I guess I took my licks a long time ago and KNOW personal experience with the down side of cyber space is the best teacher. I really wish I had the nerve to just tell some of you about our experiences. But, I'm pretty sure you'd have trouble believing they happened, so can't see that it would do much good. Besides, when did any of us ever gear our choices to reflect others' cautions. We all think we're too smart. We only believe when it happens to us. The first nightmare taught me to give cyber romances ... even those among friends ... a wide berth. The second involved illegal activities (not porn but theft) and made me super wary of any close cyber ties. Feel fortunate you guys got off with just Slinky. g'nite I've got another hour left 'til MrG finishes late stuff at work and intend to spend it with Lucas Davenport : ) . (chit! edited because I hit edit instead of main ... it's late ... I'm outta here : ( ) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "I never got another email from Slinky." Posted by Twitch on 06:06:20 3/02/2001 So if Sailer says she's ok, I'm going with that. I reached out to her and she hasn't responded except to say she is ok. I pray she is. Also, I hope janphi is ok and will be able to come back and join us soon. Again, pip, I apologize and janphi I apologize. Fini, hasta la vista, get out, the end of story. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "my too cents" Posted by Scully on 08:01:46 3/02/2001 The fact that she was banned from the forum indicates to me that something sinister may have occurred for Chris to come to such a drastic decision. At the risk of sounding insensitive to her plight, I would not place myself or my family at risk by making contact with her by email or by telephone. If she has caller I.D., you're dead meat. She then has your name and telephone number and you may find yourself answering unwanted, late night calls from someone whose mental stability is a big question mark. And would you really want to answer your front door some day to find this poster standing on your doorstep? Allow your email contact with her to slow to a trickle until you no longer have any email contact with her whatsoever. If she is the type who has some sort of pathological need for attention you ontinue to play right into her hands by continuing to communicate with her. Her ultimate goal may be to seek out sympathetic, concerned individuals and then prey on their good intentions. If you sever your relationship with her she will become bored and disinterested and move on to the next unassuming individual on the internet. The internet presents many opportunities for her to seek out other sympathetic ears, and I have no doubt she will find another group of hapless followers who will supply her with all of the attention she desires. Let her RL family keep tabs on her and seek out the professional help she needs if her behavior spirals out of control. It is not our responsibility to track down strangers and involve ourselves in their personal lives. Remember...you have no earthly idea who this person is, what her intentions are and what she might be capable of. Was this paranoid enough? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Thank you Scully" Posted by starry on 08:50:01 3/02/2001 That is good advice. I am entirely too trusting. I'm thankful for this forum and the opportunity to discuss this with you all. Voyager,Twitch and I just have to get tougher... :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Points Taken...." Posted by Voyager on 10:07:32 3/02/2001 My personal thanks to each of you who have contributed to this discussion...the issue was weighing heavily upon my conscience....afraid that our community "outing" of a member might lead to her demise, and was not able to handle it. Anyway several things...I have read each of your posts...Your personal experiences with Slinky over a long period of time, and the resulting betrayals and havoc...your points are well made and well taken... Also the posts by v_p, gemini, Scully, Cassie, and others, about the amazing deceptions perpetrated upon them by internet scammers, were certainly not wasted on me....all points well taken, and I thank you for your sharing and your cautions.... I did, on the advice of one of our posters, go to the Passages Nouveau site and found a Z person, strongly resembling the description of our Slinky, happily posting of Spring Time and Snow, with many many exclamation points....She sounds fine and I am glad....maybe she has learned some lessons as well....or maybe not....at least she does not sound suisidal which was my real worry... Just thought I would say here that my personal experiences with meeting in person, and talking on the phone, and exchanging letters with posters from JW, which is the only forum where I post, have been really positive experiences.... I have only met with or talked personally five posters though, outside of the large meeting in Boulder in 98'....Szundi, Cher, Starry, and Colorado Babe....then of course my long correspondance with Panico....All lovely women.... I know now that I have been unusually fortunate. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "Some people just have to gossip" Posted by Seeker on 20:51:01 3/02/2001 and make things up here don't they? Actually, I love watching you all make total fools out of yourselves. I guess the old backyard washday gossip has moved to cyberville and JW is leading the way! Some people really need to get out and get themselves some real lives. I can see who is posting non-stop all day and night to know who they are too! For your edification, Slinky and Zelphia's ISP's are completely different AND several posters have actually been to her (Zelly's) house, unlike Slinky... You can quit with the gossip although I'm sure you will just find something else/someone else to gossip about. You must be some really lonely, bitter, and evil minded people to continue with this juvenile, hateful stuff. If Slinky is ill, or just miserably lonely and reaching out for attention, so be it. I think she should be a writer, or maybe she is and she's writing about these forums and the personalities that come through. Who knows, or cares, really? She was nice to me, and never caused me any trouble, and was never mean or spiteful, unlike some of you here. And some wonder why I prefer the company of horses... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Seeker" Posted by Chris on 05:07:28 3/03/2001 If you dislike the Justice Watch Community members so much then I really must ask...Why come here at all? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Chris" Posted by Seeker on 08:20:38 3/03/2001 I don't dislike the JW community members, I just dislike it when they get mean and nasty about those who are not here to defend themselves. I actually love your forum and the wonderful, intellegent posts. I'm just tired of people being mean & spiteful, that's all. Plus someone (maybe more than one) has been sending out nasty e-mails to members of other forums on this very subject (the Slinky/Zelphia thing) to members who are no longer members of JW! To me that is just wrong and it appears they are trying to start a forum war. They should check their facts first... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Don't believe everything you hear." Posted by Twitch on 09:05:24 3/03/2001 http://www.egreetings.com/m/main/pg/custom?productld=76848&collectionld=8031&returncollectionld=8031&screen=1 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "twitch" Posted by ayelean on 11:31:17 3/03/2001 ?????????? I must not be getting what you intended. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "FYI" Posted by Chris on 10:15:45 3/03/2001 Sylvia is threatening to "do something" (?) about the accusations that Slinky is posting at her forum under a different hat. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Has anyone..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 10:34:33 3/03/2001 ever seen slinky and Zelphia together at the same time in the same room? I rest my case. As far as ISP's go, I'm sure slinky is very conversant with the use of anonymizers, to change her ISP every time she registers at a new forum. Some of you are soooooo naive! Chris, what does Sylvia plan to do? Start World War III? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "LurkerXIV" Posted by Chris on 10:38:08 3/03/2001 I'm not sure. Here is our latest exchange... > > * * * * * R E M I N D E R * * * * > > > > NOW ARE YOU GONNA DO SOMETHING OR DO I HAVE TO. Me: > I'm not going to do a thing except go visit a very sick friend. FINE THEN I WILL Caps are Sylvia, bold emphasis is mine. Now, I really am going to go finish packing! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Well" Posted by darby on 11:36:21 3/03/2001 I just wanted to see what this was all about, and lo and behold, I saw my name included as the first in a list of the "SICK PATHETIC POSTERS" at JW--by a poster who had started a thread entitled, "JW IS TRYING TO DISCREDIT OUR POSTERS." Oh, the irony! LOL! I figure that Zelphia is either Slinky or someone who has slept with a goat. (Zelphia claimed that she once nursed a baby palm-sized goat back to health by allowing it to sleep with her.) If Zelphia and Slinky aren't one and the same, those two ought to become friends. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "Could we, then," Posted by Twitch on 11:20:06 3/03/2001 declare this a dead thread? The point has been made. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "Ayelean" Posted by Twitch on 12:34:34 3/03/2001 Since this is a dead thread I don't feel obligated to explain myself, but since it's you and I have a lot of respect for you I do feel obligated to answer. :-) Basically, this thread started out as one about true concern for another living human being and it turned into a dirty joke. Does that help? I guess I'm being a bit too sarcastic and confrontational today, in my own special way. Better stop now. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Lurker" Posted by whitefox on 13:57:03 3/03/2001 can you tell me what forum you think Slinky is posting at? Thanks in advance [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "Darby" Posted by Annette on 14:22:18 3/03/2001 Please tell where I can find the sick pathetic list. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "Annette" Posted by pip on 16:41:10 3/03/2001 The forum where it was posted has vanished, but it has been reposted at the forum where you and I were both seen through a magic mirror. pip [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "um, twitch..." Posted by pip on 16:38:36 3/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:38:36, 3/03/2001 You wrote, "Basically, this thread started out as one about true concern for another living human being and it turned into a dirty joke. Does that help?" While I absolutely agree with you regarding the original intent of this thread, I fail to see anyone whose post suggests that there was an intent to turn it into a "dirty joke". As far as I can see, people here shared their honest responses to starry's concern about Slinky. As usual, truth won out and the collective information pointed not to "another living human being" who needed empathy but to "another living human being" who continues to dupe those who seem willing to be duped. I for one have a hard time fretting over the well- being of a sick individual if the sickness victimizes others on any level. Pedophilia is considered a sickness, too - shall we start a thread to support the mental state of a well known pedophile, since he is "another living human being"? I didn't think so. pip Edited to add: P.S. Thanks for bringing this thread back to life. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Annette" Posted by darby on 16:45:05 3/03/2001 This was on Sylvia's forum, and Sylvia made that comment about me, pip and mary99 (in that order). Next, she posted a private email from Pedro to her, in which Pedro kindly asked her to resist the urge to pay any attention to what goes on at JW, and specifically to ignore what is said in the WOR, as it is a private and uncensored forum. Then, I saw that the post with Pedro's email was gone. And finally, the whole forum is inaccessible, at least by me (LOL). What's funny is that I've never directly said on the forums that Zelphia is Slinky, so I'm not sure why my name is included in reference to this problem. I made an ambiguous post one time over at CS about transparent hats. Zelphia and Lethal both assumed I meant them. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Darby" Posted by pip on 17:07:38 3/03/2001 Join the club - I never made such a statement, either, before today. I think you and I posted vaguely about our suspicion on the same thread. But, if you put a shoe out there, along comes a foot that it fits! Funny thing is, the fact that you, Mary99 and I were mentioned makes me believe even more that S=Z. Sylvia has absolutely no reason to call us names unless she is protecting the "designated patient", if you know what I mean... pip [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "Darby" Posted by Annette on 17:01:20 3/03/2001 Thanks Darby and pip,guess I didn't make it to the finals of this years sick and pathetic posters awards. Twitch I wouldn't give up on hearing from Slinky yet.Once her current health scares are over I'm sure she will be back in full swing and you will be able to look forward to daily novel length emails about her dangerous, exciting and tragic life. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "pip" Posted by darby on 17:14:58 3/03/2001 LOL--Very good, pip! I hadn't thought about it that way yet, but you are so right. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "sorry to be " Posted by whitefox on 17:09:09 3/03/2001 so dumb, but what is the name of Sylvia's forum? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "whitefox" Posted by pip on 17:10:57 3/03/2001 It was LaPassageNouveau, but it appears to have vanished. pip [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "thanks pip" Posted by whitefox on 17:19:45 3/03/2001 :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "Pip" Posted by Annette on 17:34:03 3/03/2001 LOL has mad Rita been reincarnated? I wish she would come back, they were fun days on her forum. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "Darby..." Posted by Pedro on 17:27:02 3/03/2001 ...thanks for posting that information. Did Sylvia posted my e-mail to her/ fine, I did send that e-mail as JW Moderator so I guess I should post it here for all to know so here it goes... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "Email to Sylvia." Posted by Pedro on 17:29:19 3/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:29:19, 3/03/2001 Dear Sylvia, this is Pedro. As you know I am a moderator at JW and in that context I address you regarding the Slinky/Z issue. We at JW have a forum call the WOR where the rules are very relaxed and that exactly why that forum WOR is there, to vent the issues that couldn't be vent in open forum. However guesses about who's who in and on each forum can't be avoided and doing so will be an unacceptable censorship on members. I know you from some time ago and I can't but ask myself what's going on with you? Sylvia, you aren't the Internet policeman and isn't of your business at all what's going on in JW, if any of the members of your forum has a problem in JW he or she should e-mail JW moderators and/or push the alert bottom, they didn't. Sylvia those issues you're talking about are in the WOR, that's moderated by my wife China and the WOR has no censorship at all. They can defend themselves in there but they prefer go and cry to you, I hope this is the last time you come treating us in issues that aren't of your business, after all isn't your forum. You are a friend and I hope you understand that I am a bit upset now, please don't ever go in to others business again treating people, what are you going to do? NOTHING, YOU CAN DO NO SHIT, IN JW YOU'RE NOBODY, GOT IT? Take care of your forum and of yourself and leave JW the FUCK alone, ok? I wonder if I was wrong supporting you before. I am very sad and unhappy now, you don't have the courtesy to address us properly and with good manners and you have the ARROGANCE OF TELL US WHAT TO DO OR NOT... FORUM WAR BEGUIN BY STUPID WEBMASTERS GOING IN TO OTHER FORUMS BUSINESS, STAY OUT OF IT. Sylvia, you know and everyone knows that I did defend you in the past, so if you turn me against you by your own silly actions, everyone will see clear how wrong you are. Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "My private..." Posted by Pedro on 18:06:24 3/03/2001 ...e-mail to Sylvia has been posted all over the internet, this is my last e-mail to her. > Dear Sylvia, Pedro here. > > I been told that you had posted an e-mail from me regarding your intrusion > in WOR business. WOR is a private forum and no one can read nor post without > been a memeber. > Am I now free to post previous correspondance between us?. > I would like an explanation before accept the apologies I am sure I will > receive from you as soon as you read this e-mail. > > Best Regards. > > Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "pip, Annette" Posted by Twitch on 18:20:57 3/03/2001 Well, pip, you're right again. I did get it going, didn't I. Haha. Maybe subconsciously, I wanted to. Maybe I turned it into a dirty joke. Annette, I'm not listening to them if you're not. Haha. I don't plan any further communication with her. She never replied the night I emailed her about her well being. I told her I knew she had to know some of what was going on here, and I just wanted to know if she was ok. She said she was sitting down to dinner with her family and would get back to me. She never did. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "Pedro, WOW!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 18:31:36 3/03/2001 Your diplomacy has probably just averted World War III! ;) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "Diplomacy..." Posted by Pedro on 18:37:09 3/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:37:09, 3/03/2001 doesn't work with kids nor with Idiots. Reason why sometimes war is a need, even tho' we don't like it. Pedro. Lurker, I can get ugly sometimes too, heh. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "Pedro," Posted by LurkerXIV on 08:23:51 3/04/2001 You are never ugly...just realistic. You did what you had to do. I hate to see slinky duping another whole group of people. You're so sexy when you're angry!! (China, never fear. I am interested in Pedro in a motherly sort of way. He reminds me of my sons...always ready for an intellectual argument....or a fistfight!) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "Just stopped by to see what's up" Posted by Cassandra on 17:02:54 3/04/2001 Some of these forums I never heard of, and have vanished before I could visit them. New season of 'Sopranos' tonight! Slinky was fascinating with her "perils of Pauline" life, true or false. I must say I rather miss her. She was never dull! "It was always something", just like Roseanne Roseannadanna said. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]