Justice Watch Support JW "ENQUIRER" [ Main ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... ENQUIRER, Watching you, 11:05:53, 3/22/2001 Thank you, thank you, thank you..., LurkerXIV, 11:08:20, 3/22/2001, (#1) sucking noises, Edie Pratt, 11:10:21, 3/22/2001, (#2) Caption on picture:, Watching you, 11:11:38, 3/22/2001, (#3) more..., Watching you, 11:16:50, 3/22/2001, (#4) more..., Watching you, 11:22:30, 3/22/2001, (#6) Yup, I can believe that.hahahaha, 1000Sparks, 11:22:40, 3/22/2001, (#7) What?, darby, 11:19:04, 3/22/2001, (#5) Riddle me this, janphi, 11:23:35, 3/22/2001, (#8) Phew!, Edie Pratt, 11:38:48, 3/22/2001, (#13) more..., Watching you, 11:26:53, 3/22/2001, (#9) more..., Watching you, 11:34:29, 3/22/2001, (#11) Godamighty. Is this , Holly, 11:36:52, 3/22/2001, (#12) Goofy -, Holly, 12:06:17, 3/22/2001, (#47) OMG!!, freebird, 11:29:53, 3/22/2001, (#10) more..., Watching you, 11:39:29, 3/22/2001, (#14) Don Gentile..., Pretzel, 11:46:05, 3/22/2001, (#20) Aha, Pretzel, Holly, 12:14:13, 3/22/2001, (#54) Yowza!, CensusGrrl, 11:40:29, 3/22/2001, (#15) Pitty-pat!?!, JR, 11:53:20, 3/22/2001, (#28) Pitty-pat, momo, 11:56:22, 3/22/2001, (#32) still calls her 'that child", mary99, 12:22:58, 3/22/2001, (#65) I think, darby, 11:42:17, 3/22/2001, (#16) I always said Watching You, Cassandra, 11:51:44, 3/22/2001, (#27) Thanks, WY, Holly, 11:45:03, 3/22/2001, (#18) LOL, Holly!, Edie Pratt, 11:44:52, 3/22/2001, (#17) JBR Death Killed Nedra?, Chatter, 17:44:12, 3/22/2001, (#93) WY & darby, fly, 11:48:27, 3/22/2001, (#22) EdieP., Holly, 11:45:41, 3/22/2001, (#19) Well J & P,, listener, 12:03:34, 3/22/2001, (#42) I can't wait .., freebird, 11:50:20, 3/22/2001, (#26) unfortunate choice of words?, Edie Pratt, 11:50:11, 3/22/2001, (#25) I don't get it, Watching you, 11:49:20, 3/22/2001, (#23) I give Gentile the credit, Holly, 12:09:56, 3/22/2001, (#50) Bizarre!!, Mini, 11:47:54, 3/22/2001, (#21) Dear jammy and LP..., mary99, 11:59:09, 3/22/2001, (#37) fly, darby, 11:49:59, 3/22/2001, (#24) Watching You, 1000Sparks, 11:59:38, 3/22/2001, (#38) LOL, Sparky, Watching you, 12:01:28, 3/22/2001, (#41) Girls, momo, 12:10:08, 3/22/2001, (#51) Mini..., Cassandra, 11:55:49, 3/22/2001, (#31) Well now we know, Holly, 11:54:58, 3/22/2001, (#30) The Ramseys, momo, 11:53:47, 3/22/2001, (#29) Momo, freebird, 11:57:31, 3/22/2001, (#34) Toto, JR, 11:57:09, 3/22/2001, (#33) Tipical Ramsey Bull Chit......, Mee Too, 12:06:29, 3/22/2001, (#48) Oh, I get it..., Holly, 11:57:54, 3/22/2001, (#35) LOL, Holly, darby, 11:59:01, 3/22/2001, (#36) Holly, freebird, 12:00:50, 3/22/2001, (#40) John's quote, darby, 12:05:03, 3/22/2001, (#44) Darby., Holly, 12:19:44, 3/22/2001, (#63) LOL Holly, mary99, 12:05:54, 3/22/2001, (#45) heh heh, Edie Pratt, 12:00:39, 3/22/2001, (#39) hey I thought of something else, freebird, 12:04:09, 3/22/2001, (#43) Ramsey Stradegy, Tomahawk, 12:19:07, 3/22/2001, (#60) Hmmmmmm......., CensusGrrl, 12:18:35, 3/22/2001, (#59) Patsy's quote, darby, 12:08:31, 3/22/2001, (#49) EdieP, Holly, 12:17:15, 3/22/2001, (#57) Maybe, pinker, 12:05:57, 3/22/2001, (#46) Gee, mary99, 12:10:38, 3/22/2001, (#52) Mary99, freebird, 12:15:14, 3/22/2001, (#55) Maybe, darby, 12:13:32, 3/22/2001, (#53) Hoo wee!, janab, 12:17:27, 3/22/2001, (#58) Gee janab,, Holly, 12:29:56, 3/22/2001, (#70) this one is priceless, mary99, 12:16:28, 3/22/2001, (#56) Eeeeeeew...mary99, Holly, 12:26:41, 3/22/2001, (#66) Bald face liar....., Mee Too, 12:19:17, 3/22/2001, (#61) The Interview, New York Lawyer, 12:19:40, 3/22/2001, (#62) NYL, janab, 12:21:00, 3/22/2001, (#64) Thanks, WY!!, janphi, 12:27:15, 3/22/2001, (#67) From Scarlett to Aunt Pitty-Pat..., LurkerXIV, 12:37:57, 3/22/2001, (#73) I just saw, momo, 12:28:50, 3/22/2001, (#69) LOL momo, mary99, 12:43:14, 3/22/2001, (#78) Burke has remained STRANGELY quiet, Edie Pratt, 12:27:59, 3/22/2001, (#68) EdieP, Holly, 12:33:01, 3/22/2001, (#71) fishing expedition, Edie Pratt, 12:36:35, 3/22/2001, (#72) Hope those feets go pitty pat, Cassandra, 12:45:37, 3/22/2001, (#79) I see, momo, 12:40:33, 3/22/2001, (#74) I saw that, momo, Watching you, 12:41:32, 3/22/2001, (#75) WY, momo, 12:42:38, 3/22/2001, (#76) chit hits GIANT fan, mary99, 12:49:21, 3/22/2001, (#80) Holly, janab, 12:42:45, 3/22/2001, (#77) Random thoughts...., listener, 12:56:49, 3/22/2001, (#86) the sweet Sound of Silence, mary99, 12:52:42, 3/22/2001, (#83) lol we're all here at once, Cassandra, 12:51:30, 3/22/2001, (#82) Woah!, Ayeka, 12:49:41, 3/22/2001, (#81) pitty-pat, mary99, 12:55:05, 3/22/2001, (#84) Eeek, janab, 12:56:10, 3/22/2001, (#85) Why, didn't you see?, janphi, 13:00:21, 3/22/2001, (#87) Cassandra, Mini, 13:13:23, 3/22/2001, (#88) Hmmmm ..., Grace, 13:30:43, 3/22/2001, (#89) April Fool's joke?, darby, 14:01:25, 3/22/2001, (#90) Darb...the date is April 3, LurkerXIV, 14:38:48, 3/22/2001, (#91) $1,000,000, JR, 15:28:03, 3/22/2001, (#92) Do you remember, Greenleaf, 06:33:51, 3/23/2001, (#94) ................................................................... "ENQUIRER" Posted by Watching you on 11:05:53 3/22/2001 If y'all be nice to me, I'll type up this huge story in the Enquirer - JONBET: Mom and Dad Change Their Story. Coming right up. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Thank you, thank you, thank you..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:08:20 3/22/2001 WY, you are a Gem....err...let me rephrase that...you always come thru for us! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "sucking noises" Posted by Edie Pratt on 11:10:21 3/22/2001 yes, I agree with Lurker, you ARE a treasure, WY, and don't forget it! LOL, now get to typing... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Caption on picture:" Posted by Watching you on 11:11:38 3/22/2001 Murder Suspects: Ramseys sat down with THE ENQUIRER for in-depth interview. John and Patsy Ramsey have changed the story they told cops about their daughter JonBenet's murder - they now admit their son Burke was awake duuring that Christmas 1996 nightmare! In an exclusive ENQUIRER interview, the nation's most infamous murder suspects say Burke was jolted awake by screams in their Boulder, Colo., home. "Burke knew something horrible had happened. He heard us screaming. He heard Patsy. . . a woman in terror," John confessed. "We thought he was asleep but he wasn't. Burke was awake. "Burke was frightened. He had tears in his eyes. He knew something very very wrong was going on." Until being questioned by The ENQUIRER, the Ramseys had always insisted that Burke was still sleeping when police arrived at their home after Patsy's 911 call. But now John has admitted to The ENQUIRER that Burke woke up before the 911 call was placed at 5:52 a.m. to summon police. In the Ramseys' face-to-face, in-depth interview with the ENQUIRER: *The Ramseys - who still staunchly proclaim their innocence - broke their silence about what Burke knows of the murder and revealed fears their son will explode emotionally from keeping "a lot inside." *Even though it's almost inconceivable that John and Patsy wouldn't talk to Burke about the murder, they say they didn't find out Burke was awake the morning of the tragedy until he testified before a grand jury nearly two and a half years later! more... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "more..." Posted by Watching you on 11:41:56 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:41:56, 3/22/2001 *In chilling detail, the couple described the haunting nightmares and dreams they have about their murdered daughter. *Patsy recently asked her dying mother to come back after her death and reveal JonBenet's murder. *John admits he saw the movie "Speed," which contains a key line found in the ransom note - but claims he saw it on an airplaine and didn't wear the headphones! When the Ramseys arrived for the interview in Atlanta, oddly enough, Patsy gave an ENQUIRER reporter a hug - then served up a dish of shamrock-shaped St. Patrick's Day cookies. In opening up about Burke for the first time, the Ramseys insisted they never once sat down with him to discuss the murder, but just said his sister "was gone...and was in heaven." They also never told him they'd signed papers to make John's brother Burke's guardian if they were arrested. The Ramseys were asked whether Burke, now 14, ever asked for details of JonBenet's death. "He has never...we have never talked about anything," said Patsy, who wore a purple suit and white blouse. John, looking weary in shirtsleeves, said they also never told Burke that they are suspects in the murder. But he revealed that an attorney he hired to represent Burke told the boy before he testified at a grand jury proceeding in May 1999. "His attorney sat him down and said, "Understand, they are suspicious of your parents. Do you have any questions?" Surprisingly, Burke said he didn't. "He's a pretty quiet kid," said John. John and Patsy worry that Burke is keeping things inside and they fear it will lead to an emotional blowup as an adult. "Yeah, I worry, you betcha we do," John said with a sigh. "In fact that's one of the risks you have with a child with a traumatic experience like that. more... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "more..." Posted by Watching you on 11:22:30 3/22/2001 "They keep a lot inside and they don't really start thinking about it until they get to be 40 years old and that's when it hurts." Burke has been strangely quiet about his sister's murder, the Ramseys reveal. They say it wasn't until Burke's 1999 grand jury testimony that they found out he was awake before police arrived - but was pretending to be asleep. "Yeah, he testified to that. We thought he was asleep but he wasn't," said John, who had told police their son slept through the tragedy. A source close to the case declared: "It's hard to believe that John and Patsy didn't find out until two and a half years after the murder that Burke was awake. "I know the reaction of the cops will be: 'Why didn't Burke tell them? Why couldn't he discuss his sister's death with them? Was it because Burke knew more than he dared to say about his parents involvement?' "Whatever the reason, John and Patsy have changed their story." When asked when Burke woke up, John said it was after Patsy discovered the ransom note shortly after 5:30 a.m. Then he quickly changed his answer to say Burke woke up after the 911 call. But then John changed his story again, calling The ENQUIRER as we went to press to say that Burke was awake BEFORE the 911 call. John told us: "Burke recalled his mother screaming, "Where's my baby?' and me saying, 'Calm down, calm down, we need to call the police." John's admission that Burke was awake came after The ENQUIRER revealed to him and Patsy the details of our earlier exclusive report that Burke's voice is heard on an enhancement made of the 911 call. The younster says, "What did you find?" and "What do you want me to do?" more... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Yup, I can believe that.hahahaha" Posted by 1000Sparks on 11:22:40 3/22/2001 they NEVER discussed any of this with Burke? Murder of his sister? Why did they insist he was asleep? They never asked him if he heard anything that night? PATSY DID IT PATSY DID IT........ [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "What?" Posted by darby on 11:19:04 3/22/2001 In the Ramseys' face-to-face, in-depth interview with the ENQUIRER: First I hear that Patsy is exchanging email with gsquared (verified by jameson!) AND NOW THIS!?? The Ramseys have been talking to the Enquirer? This must be how they change the way we get our news. LOL! Thanks, WY! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Riddle me this" Posted by janphi on 11:23:35 3/22/2001 What am I putting on my tuna salad sandwich right now that resembles the Ramseys? TOAST!!! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Phew!" Posted by Edie Pratt on 11:38:48 3/22/2001 thanks WY! Sounds to me like Burke is causing his parents to lose sleep, heh heh heh. I can imagine how worried they must be, afterall, what if Burke remembers WHO the perp was? LOL, WHY would they worry about that? They didn't do it, right? I "betcha" Burke's a problem, because they can't kill him too, too many people watching. How many bets we read about some strange accident in the near future, one that causes Burke to forget everything before the age of 9? Maybe Nedra's death should be investigated, too... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "more..." Posted by Watching you on 11:57:31 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:57:31, 3/22/2001 John Ramsey tells his son, "We're not talking to you." But Patsy still insists: "When I made that phone call, Burke Ramsey was nowhere in the vicinity of the telephone." Asked what goes through her mind when she recalls the events of JonBenet's death, Patsy gave a bizarre childlike answer. "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat. I mean right now, I'm feeling like, gosh, this happened to my child." During The ENQUIRER interview, Patsy admitted she considered and rejected the possibility that John was sexually abusing JonBenet. She openly admitted that during her struggle to defeat ovarian cancer between 1993 and 1994, John and Patsy's sex life suffered. She totally rejects the notion of John abusing JonBenet, but her reasoning is odd. She said her mother "came to take care of the kids (when I had cancer). She slept in the othter bed in JonBenet's room. I mean, if John was coming in to molest JonBenet, you know that's not going to happen 'cause Grandma was right there very night." The Ramseys maintain that JonBenet's bed-wetting was not a problem. "This bed-wetting is nonsense stuff...a red herring," said John. Patsy added, her voice rising: "When children are really tired and they don't go potty before they go to bed, sometimes they have accidents." But the close source declared: "The investigators will never buy Patsy's claim that Jon Benet's bedwetting wasn't significant. more... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "more..." Posted by Watching you on 11:34:29 3/22/2001 "Right after the murder, the Ramsey's housekeeper Linda Hoffmann-Pugh told police the bed-wetting was a big problem within the family." In discussing the ransom note, the Ramseys were reminded of an ENQUIRER exclusive that revealed police believe it was written by a killer using their opposite hand. Patsy, who is naturally right-handed, was asked if she can write with her left hand. "Can I write with my left hand?" she said, pondering the question. A smile crossed her face and she replied: "I can- but not very well." She confirmed that to get a sample of her handwriting, police made her write the ransom note "every which way." The ENQUIRER asked if her left-handed writing was legible. "Oh, I don't know," she said, then changed her answer, saying it wasn't legible. That contradicts a source close to the investigation who said her left-handed printing of the note was legible. Both John and Patsy expressed a stunning ignorance about the most notable line in the ransom note, which reads, "Don't try to grow a brain, John." Even though references to the line have appeared in published reports many times since JonBenet's murder, they say they were totally unaware that the words are nearly an exact repeat of a line from the movie, "Speed." "Oh, is that from that movie?" asked Patsy, her eyes opening wide. John admitted he had seen the film but insisted there's no way he could have remembered the line. "I watched part of 'Speed' on an airline one day - without the headphones. All I see is this bus." In the years since the murder, Patsy said she has been haunted by a recurring nightmare about that tragic Christmas night. "I am in Boulder and walking the alleyways, the alleys behind our home - and just searching a nd searching and searching. And you know I'll come upon a group of people standing there. And I'll say be careful, be careful, there's someone around here that's killing people. I have that dream over and over. "I kind of picture myself sitting up kind of toward the Flatiwons (part of the Rocky Mountains overlooking Boulder) and just wondering in which house the murderer resides." John also has recurring dreams involving JonBenet - but not as a 6-year-old, her age at the time of her death. "She's usually about 2 or 3 years old and I'm holding her," John said, describing the dreams as 'very comforting. I wake up with a very close feeling." more... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Godamighty. Is this " Posted by Holly on 11:36:52 3/22/2001 SCRIBE's story? Don Gentile? Well, guess this proves they are liars, revisionists and the part about Deadra as a deterrent to JR molesting JB is worth it's weight in gold. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Goofy -" Posted by Holly on 12:06:17 3/22/2001 "But Patsy still insists: "When I made that phone call, Burke Ramsey was nowhere in the vicinity of the telephone." Was there another Burke - besides Ramsey? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "OMG!!" Posted by freebird on 11:44:08 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:44:08, 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:35:55, 3/22/2001 I can't believe this, for one thing if I was so worried about my childs mental health in the future I would have my child in counseling and we would be talking about this not just silence for 4 years?? what the crap are they trying to pull now ST was RIGHT about the 911 call and they knew this all the time!!! and they deny, deny, deny, wonder what else he was right about? And what in the world is going on now that made them go to the tabs for this exclusive?? Also what will this mean for their lawsuits, like against ST? how can they now sue him if they have just admitted to lying about Burke for the last 4 years? I can't stop myself, my head is spinning, Their statement about Burke is scary, I get the feeling that we are being warned about Burkes future behavior? kinda makes me rethink what went on that night and who was responsible, The Rams have mentioned Burkes future mental problems more that once, what do they know,or think they know? or mabey they need the million bucks and are setting Burke up! nah just a joke I hope. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "more..." Posted by Watching you on 11:39:29 3/22/2001 Patsy revealed she talked about her daughter - whom she called Jonnie B. - in her last conversation with her mother Nedra Paugh, who died recently. "You know you're going to be with Jonnie B. soon and you're gonna know everything soon," Patsy said she told Nedra. Then she added: "If anybody can come back and tell me, I know she will." Patsy was the last person to see JonBenet alive, sleeping in her bed - "zonked," as she put it. She said she kissed her daughter and recited the prayer, "Now I lay me down to sleep." But she can't remember if there was a blanket on the bed, or if it was the one JonBenet was wrapped in when her body was found in a windowless basement room the next day. Pressed for further details of that night, Patsy responded like a woman who has had lawyers in her life for too many years: "It was 4-1/2 years ago, I have not rehearsed or reread my previous statemetns." In closing, Patsy said she "would love nothing more from The National ENQUIRER than to say "The ENQUIRER finds the killer.'" And if that happened, she added, "I'll be your poster girl for the rest of my life." (GAG) Boulder Police Chief Mark Becknewr would not comment on the Ramsey interview. But in a gloomy assessment of where the case stands, he told The ENQUIRER: "There's really not much happening right now." The Ramseys remain under an umbrella of suspicion. David Wright & Don Gentile Finis [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Don Gentile..." Posted by Pretzel on 11:46:05 3/22/2001 How did you keep a straight face during the interview????? If Patsy is so religious, why is she reciting "Now I lay me down to sleep..." And since JonBenet was so active in Sunday School, I am sure she knew other prayers besides the nursery school one!!! Guess it was too hard for them to stay out of the limelight for long! If they keep talking, they are going to convict themselves!!! Pretzel [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Aha, Pretzel" Posted by Holly on 12:14:13 3/22/2001 And when Mike Kane interviewed the "devout" holy roller JR - who attends religious retreats etc, Kane asked him for his favorite scripture or passage and he couldn't think of any. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Yowza!" Posted by CensusGrrl on 11:40:29 3/22/2001 Now everyone knows where John got that $400 in his wallet. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Pitty-pat!?!" Posted by JR on 11:53:20 3/22/2001 Asked what goes through her mind when she recalls the vents of JonBenet's death, Patsy gave a bizarre childlike answer. "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat. I mean right now, I'm feeling like, gosh, this happened to my child." My heart is not only going pitty-pat it is galloping and hanging about throat level making me gag! Freudian slip here- have pitty on me (us?)!!!! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Pitty-pat" Posted by momo on 11:56:22 3/22/2001 is short for pity Patsy. She wants everyone to pity her. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "still calls her 'that child"" Posted by mary99 on 12:22:58 3/22/2001 Some things never change. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "I think" Posted by darby on 11:42:17 3/22/2001 the Rams did this because LHP has recently been legally freed to tell her side of the story. I notice that bedwetting has been mentioned in the Enquirer article, and I think LHP might have a thing or two to say about that issue. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "I always said Watching You" Posted by Cassandra on 11:51:44 3/22/2001 is the loveliest in all of JWdom. Thank you for posting this! LHP must be making them sweat, or else there's other news about to break. If the GJ testimony is released... Things are getting interesting. If they have changed their stories from those they gave to the police, how suspicious is that? And then the interviews, the endless interviews, to all and sundry. How many times have they told their "stories" to friends, interviewers, and the world on tv up close and personal??? I love it! lol Cassie [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Thanks, WY" Posted by Holly on 11:45:03 3/22/2001 There is always a method to their madness. Maybe Scribe will provide a behind the scenes look at what led to this "surrender" to the "enemy". [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "LOL, Holly!" Posted by Edie Pratt on 11:44:52 3/22/2001 "Deadra", too funny, you:-) [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 93. "JBR Death Killed Nedra?" Posted by Chatter on 17:44:12 3/22/2001 Any grandmother would be sad, but not to the extent Nedra was! Why did this hit her harder than it would anyone else? Could part of the answer be in the "Reluctant Patriarch" thread on this same page? Maybe her husband had something to do with it? Let's give her a break, she must have suffered so much? We may have lost some posters because of ridicule. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "WY & darby" Posted by fly on 11:48:27 3/22/2001 WY - What a peach you are! Thanks for the story. Must say a Ramsey tabloid interview is one of the last things I'd have ever expected. LOLOL darby - What do you mean that recently LHP has been cleared to tell her story? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "EdieP." Posted by Holly on 11:45:41 3/22/2001 I borrowed that one from Darby. Hah! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Well J & P," Posted by listener on 12:03:34 3/22/2001 It's a start. Keep going if you can remember to keep your stories straight this time. I agree with you that Burke will prolly explode someday, & who knows,....may cause horrendous damage to many others while venting his pent up anger. It seems though, that you are only concerned with your own child and what he might say anyway someday,...& not concerned about how he may ruin the lives of many innocent others. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "I can't wait .." Posted by freebird on 11:50:20 3/22/2001 to see how the pro Rams will work this one! reminds me of and old song, "You dropped de bomb on me" [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "unfortunate choice of words?" Posted by Edie Pratt on 11:50:11 3/22/2001 she was "zonked"? Probably meant "bonked". Too bad the interviewer didn't ask about the heart in her palm, like "when did you draw that?" [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "I don't get it" Posted by Watching you on 11:49:20 3/22/2001 first the Ramseys are sueing the tabs, then they are sitting down with one for an indepth interview. This is so odd. Why must they continue to draw attention to themselves this way? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "I give Gentile the credit" Posted by Holly on 12:09:56 3/22/2001 for this masterpiece of crapola. He's very engaging - and apparently quite tenacious. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Bizarre!!" Posted by Mini on 11:47:54 3/22/2001 This has to be the Ramsey's weirdest interview ever! There are so many strange things they say that it can be picked apart forever but most of all I wonder why they're breaking the law by revealing GJ testimony at the same time that LP is going to court to get permission to do the same thing? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Dear jammy and LP..." Posted by mary99 on 11:59:09 3/22/2001 How would you like your crow? How many times have the LHs insisted that Burke was asleep and his voice was not on the 911 call? Yikes, their heads must by exploding right now! Well, I suppose this won't count as a Ramsey lie either. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "fly" Posted by darby on 11:49:59 3/22/2001 Sorry, I mean she MIGHT be cleared because the law is so vague--if NYL wins that battle. My bad. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "Watching You" Posted by 1000Sparks on 11:59:38 3/22/2001 Thank you for being of some use today. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "LOL, Sparky" Posted by Watching you on 12:01:28 3/22/2001 you chithead [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Girls" Posted by momo on 12:10:08 3/22/2001 You crack me right up! ROFLMAO [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Mini..." Posted by Cassandra on 11:55:49 3/22/2001 They didn't talk to the GJ, supposedly, but there were stories about lookalikes being seen in the vicinity... If they talked to the GJ, and are now releasing info to the tabs, how weird is that? After the Huntress tied up everything for them with a big red bow, too! Cassie [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Well now we know" Posted by Holly on 11:54:58 3/22/2001 the "left handed" scoop from Gentile was right on. Someone is certainly a good source. Can't Chris or someone track Scribe down and get the background for this amazing crapola? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "The Ramseys" Posted by momo on 11:53:47 3/22/2001 are just doing the CYA thang. There is always a reason for everything they do. Always. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Momo" Posted by freebird on 11:57:31 3/22/2001 I don't know, changing your story 4years later sounds more like they just crapped in their cornflakes, how can they possible be credible now? did woody approve this???? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Toto" Posted by JR on 11:57:09 3/22/2001 We are definately not in silence anymore - nor Boulder I imagine.... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Tipical Ramsey Bull Chit......" Posted by Mee Too on 12:06:29 3/22/2001 Sue the Star for ALL the harm they reportedly caused Burke....Slam ALL the Tabs ...LOL but give an exclusive interview to the ENQUIRER..... What "Things" John is Burke holding inside.....hmmmm Ya think they would want to know....!!!! NOT Patsy you don't have to bother waiting to hear from Nedra...I think you "know" how and WHY JonBenet was murdered.... Sooooo you did question whether John was molesting JonBenet.....hmmmm How did Nedra know JonBenet was sort of molested....(how is one sort of molested?) Thanks Watching You...... Off topic......however I'm still ticked off that Nedra was buried next to JonBenet.....DId she tell Patsy YOU WILL Bury me there......Like she told JonBenet YOU WILL be in pageants...!!! .......(Mee Too) [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Oh, I get it..." Posted by Holly on 11:57:54 3/22/2001 *The Ramseys - who still staunchly proclaim their innocence - broke their silence about what Burke knows of the murder and revealed fears their son will explode emotionally from keeping "a lot inside." So keeping a gun vault UNLOCKED is a good idea... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "LOL, Holly" Posted by darby on 11:59:01 3/22/2001 . [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Holly" Posted by freebird on 12:00:50 3/22/2001 It is if he's a witness to an unsolved murder and you have life insurance on him or his assets. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "John's quote" Posted by darby on 12:05:03 3/22/2001 "I watched part of 'Speed' on an airline one day - without the headphones. All I see is this bus." So THAT must be why he throws everyone under it--It's all he can see. We are going to have LOTS of fun with this article. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "Darby." Posted by Holly on 12:19:44 3/22/2001 LOL. Thump thump, thump thump... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "LOL Holly" Posted by mary99 on 12:05:54 3/22/2001 KaaaaBOOM! "We didn't mean for this to happen..." [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "heh heh" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:00:39 3/22/2001 whad I tell you, Holly? Hark! Is that a tower I see? tick tick tick [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "hey I thought of something else" Posted by freebird on 12:04:09 3/22/2001 Patsy was wearing a PURPLE suit. I thought that was symbolic of death to her? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Ramsey Stradegy" Posted by Tomahawk on 12:19:07 3/22/2001 The Ramseys have torn this play right out of the Bill Clinton White House playbook! If something bad is going to come out about you.......you hit the press first and make it appear that you are cooperating and being honest. It is pure Clintonian political stradegy. If the Ramseys find that they have to change their story to fit the facts, they run to the Tabs and try to make it look like they just made an honest mistake. These people are dishonest. That crap about never talking to Burke about the death of his sister is simply not believable. The fact is that the Ramseys are not believable. The people who believe them are willfully ignorant and blinded by their own misconceptions about human nature. You truly can fool some of the people all of the time, but that pool of people is getting smaller all the time. Maybe some day the Boulder authorities will realize this and get up the nerve to take the case to court. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "Hmmmmmm......." Posted by CensusGrrl on 12:18:35 3/22/2001 ...is this the first sign that Ruthee has kickstarted Panico and Babe and Allipat and even Nedra into making sure us mere mortals finally get the straight story from the horse's mouth? That'd be neat, all these angelic truthseekers whispering to J&P "Confess, confess, you'll never get to heaven if you don't....." [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "Patsy's quote" Posted by darby on 12:08:31 3/22/2001 is priceless. "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat." [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "EdieP" Posted by Holly on 12:17:15 3/22/2001 Yep... Tick, tick, tick... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Maybe" Posted by pinker on 12:05:57 3/22/2001 if the BPD paid for interviews the Ramseys would sit down with them too..... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Gee" Posted by mary99 on 12:10:38 3/22/2001 At the swamp they are still in the dark. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "Mary99" Posted by freebird on 12:15:14 3/22/2001 I was just there to see what was going on and nothing nada zip, was rereading the posts about the defective detective, and about the 911 call that never happened, waiting to see how long before some of that stuff gets pulled.LOL [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "Maybe" Posted by darby on 12:13:32 3/22/2001 hir really IS out of the loop? I'll just bet the Ramseys didn't tell hir about this interview. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Hoo wee!" Posted by janab on 12:17:27 3/22/2001 What a day. Oh, public, the masses, you must believe we're innocent, even though we just admitted that we've lied to the police from the get go. NOW we're telling the truth, honest. GAG. I can't even believe this. Whoever mentioned "zonked," that stuck out like a sore thumb (or sore head?) to me also. I can't believe it. I can't believe this whole freaking thing! Guess A.K. wasn't kidding, eh? I don't even know what else to say... zonked purple=death considered JR molesting JBR as a possibility More, much more to come. Taking bets on thread parts? Five or six, minimum, I'd say. . janab [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "Gee janab," Posted by Holly on 12:29:56 3/22/2001 I was hoping for a REAL story... Instead, an amusing Gentile romp with the Rams. Is that supposed to be news? Well I suppose so, if you're tab connected. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "this one is priceless" Posted by mary99 on 12:16:28 3/22/2001 "She's usually about 2 or 3 years old and I'm holding her," John said, describing the dreams as 'very comforting. I wake up with a very close feeling." Yeah, I know how guys wake up... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "Eeeeeeew...mary99" Posted by Holly on 12:26:41 3/22/2001 JR should just shut the hell up. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "Bald face liar....." Posted by Mee Too on 12:19:17 3/22/2001 Huhhhh...Previously Patsy says SHE TUCKED JonBenet in REAL TIGHT......Now Patsy's saying she doesn't remember....???? Patsy wore a Purple suit for the interview..hmmmm very interesting... PATSY...Poster girl for the ENQUIRER...LOL I bet Jamesom flipped over that remark....LOL Those nasty Tabs! ......(Mee Too) [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "The Interview" Posted by New York Lawyer on 13:24:02 3/23/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:24:02, 3/23/2001 American Media, which owns the Enquirer, has asked that articles from their publication be reprinted without their express permission. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "NYL" Posted by janab on 12:21:17 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:21:17, 3/22/2001 So that I don't have to re-read all that, can you tell us if there's something there that has not already been posted by WY? . janab [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "Thanks, WY!!" Posted by janphi on 12:27:15 3/22/2001 Huh? "Yeah, he testified to that. We thought he was asleep but he wasn't," said John, who had told police their son slept through the tragedy. Then how in the hell do you know this?.... "Burke was frightened. He had tears in his eyes. He knew something very very wrong was going on." Huh? How is John telling this as if he knew AT THE TIME Burke was crying, if he also says he didn't know Burke was awake till 2-1/2 years later? Huh? *Even though it's almost inconceivable that John and Patsy wouldn't talk to Burke about the murder, they say they didn't find out Burke was awake the morning of the tragedy until he testified before a grand jury nearly two and a half years later! --------- SAINT PATSY'S DAY Cookies? She gave them COOKIES? And they ATE them? And they LIVED? ------- My favorite line: "John, looking weary in shirtsleeves," ------- "Yeah, I worry, you betcha we do," John said with a sigh. "In fact that's one of the risks you have with a child with a traumatic experience like that. "They keep a lot inside and they don't really start thinking about it until they get to be 40 years old and that's when it hurts." ------- When asked when Burke woke up, John said it was after Patsy discovered the ransom note shortly after 5:30 a.m. Then he quickly changed his answer to say Burke woke up after the 911 call. But then John changed his story again, calling The ENQUIRER as we went to press to say that Burke was awake BEFORE the 911 call. John told us: "Burke recalled his mother screaming, "Where's my baby?' and me saying, 'Calm down, calm down, we need to call the police." John Ramsey, you tell me right now, "Where's my baby?" "What did you do with her?" ------ First John described finding JBR's body as something "in a dream" on morning TV...then Patsy says this: "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat. I mean right now, I'm feeling like, gosh, this happened to my child." WHAT WAS THIS, A MUNCHAUSEN'S-BY-PROXY CARNIVAL RIDE? ------ She said her mother "came to take care of the kids (when I had cancer). She slept in the othter bed in JonBenet's room. I mean, if John was coming in to molest JonBenet, you know that's not going to happen 'cause Grandma was right there very night." Ah, there was no Susan Stine yet. So, was Grandma the bodyguard of the little beauty queens in the Paugh household, too? ------- "Can I write with my left hand?" "I can- but not very well." Can you tie a Prusik knot? "I can- but not very well." Could you cover up a murder? "I can- but not very well." Do you know how to tell the truth? "I can- but not very well." -------- And I'll say be careful, be careful, there's someone around here that's killing people. And I'll say, IT'S ME! ------ John also has recurring dreams involving JonBenet - but not as a 6-year-old, her age at the time of her death. "She's usually about 2 or 3 years old and I'm holding her," John said, describing the dreams as 'very comforting. I wake up with a very close feeling." WELL, NOW, I JUST WONDER WHY SHE'S ALWAYS PRE-PAGEANT! ------- Chipmunks! Remember, Burke talks just like CHIPFRICKINGMUNKS! -------- [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "From Scarlett to Aunt Pitty-Pat..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:37:57 3/22/2001 ...in 4 and 1/2 years! I'm thinking a couple of things here: The focus of the investigation has shifted from Patsy to John. Patsy is doing some distancing here from John and his earlier statements to police. (Bets...your new theory may be prophetic). Lin Wood, during discovery for the tab lawsuits, has learned what some of the concrete evidence against his clients is. The enhanced tape, e.g., has no doubt been determined to be irrefutable by the defense. So Rams must own up to their prevarications to attain some credibility in the lawsuits (?) Patsy is being prepped for her depositions in the LHP lawsuit. She is practicing on Don Gentile, and seeing how some of this chit will go over with the public. OR: The Rams know somehow that they are home free, and can say any damn thing they want to anyone! "Yes, we were lying about everything all along. You think we did it? PROVE IT!" [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "I just saw" Posted by momo on 12:28:50 3/22/2001 that there is a thread titled "Still in the dark" by Youeatcrow over at the "public bathroom" at Jams site. I guess NYL/candy will be letting them know the whole story soon. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 78. "LOL momo" Posted by mary99 on 12:43:14 3/22/2001 I wonder how long that will last? Hope your knee holds up under all this knee-slapping excitement! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "Burke has remained STRANGELY quiet" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:27:59 3/22/2001 I "betcha" their worries are well founded. Are they building a case for "Burke's a nut, you can't believe his ramblings"? I remember being 14, and nobody killed anyone, but you'd think my parents were the Charles Manson's to hear me tell it. Burke really has a case against them, it can't be pretty at the Ramsey hacienda:-) "Strangely quiet" is a whole lot scarier than "inquisitive", no? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "EdieP" Posted by Holly on 12:33:01 3/22/2001 Imagine two years of wondering what else the little guy might have heard. Good thing Uncle Fleet snatched him away from the crime scene. Maybe that "exorcism" was needed after all. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "fishing expedition" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:36:35 3/22/2001 recall the fishing trip JR took Burke on, following the gj testimony? Holly, do you think what I think? That "Uncle Fleet" took the boy on a "fishing expedition" first? Beep beep... [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 79. "Hope those feets go pitty pat" Posted by Cassandra on 12:45:37 3/22/2001 all the way to the big house! lol Cassie [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 74. "I see" Posted by momo on 12:40:33 3/22/2001 at the LH's forum they think that it is a joke and that the Enquirer did NOT interview the Ramseys. Denial is not just a river. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 75. "I saw that, momo" Posted by Watching you on 12:41:32 3/22/2001 Ms. Lavendar says, yeah, like the Ramseys are going to give the ENQUIRER an interview. I may die laughing. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 76. "WY" Posted by momo on 12:42:38 3/22/2001 The chit is about to hit the fan over there, LOL. I can't wait. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 80. "chit hits GIANT fan" Posted by mary99 on 12:49:21 3/22/2001 size of Lockheed-Martin aircraft engine. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 77. "Holly" Posted by janab on 12:42:45 3/22/2001 Well, it is certainly fodder, isn't it? I think there's news in there somewhere (R's admit lying to police). Honestly, 75 posts in what? An hour and 41 minutes. We're not usually posting that fast and furious on one thread about one subject, so you can't say this hasn't provided us with something, right? . janab [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 86. "Random thoughts...." Posted by listener on 13:30:25 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:30:25, 3/22/2001 Pats saying, my hear goes pitty pat at the thought of her beloved irreplaceble daughter has been brutally murdered and molested? That remark is just way off the chart! You have to ask yourselves *WHY* would granny stay glued to JB's room every night when there was an empty room nearby. John saying, "All I see is this bus." Ya you betcha! And he forgot to mention all the folks he's obsessed with throwing under it. About Pat's reoccuring dream, and seeing those people in the alley. Remember way back in the beginning, the spin about 2 ladies in the alley? Is this one coming back to haunt us? Does it have to do with some sort of rift amongst some sort of clandestine clan? Maybe Jon dreams of JB being 2-3 yrs old, because it *comforts* him to think that at that time in her life, he was respectful and kind to her,.....before the molestation started. LOL: Eddie Pratt: bonked, not zonked! Holly: So keeping a gun vault unlocked is a good idea! HEY WATCHING YOU !..........THANX!!!!!! [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 83. "the sweet Sound of Silence" Posted by mary99 on 12:52:42 3/22/2001 one could hear a pin drop, it's so quiet over there. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 82. "lol we're all here at once" Posted by Cassandra on 12:51:30 3/22/2001 for a change! Fingers are flying! I think this interview should conclude with: "covering our as*es in advance, we remain, under the umbrella of suspicion, wearing the royal purple, Yours, Pats and John Boy" Cassie [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 81. "Woah!" Posted by Ayeka on 12:52:40 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:52:40, 3/22/2001 "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat." Doesn't your heart go pitty-pat when you see the person you love, or a beautiful sunset, or ... well, feel a GOOD feeling? Why the hell is her heart going pitty-pat at the thought of her daughter's murder?! Ayeka [edited cuz i kan't spele :)] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 84. "pitty-pat" Posted by mary99 on 12:55:05 3/22/2001 and patsy-cakes for Patsy-poo. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 85. "Eeek" Posted by janab on 12:57:41 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:57:41, 3/22/2001 [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 87. "Why, didn't you see?" Posted by janphi on 13:00:21 3/22/2001 They said it was nice to finally see a tab article that plainly tells the Ramseys are innocent! Yes, they wrote that over there. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 88. "Cassandra" Posted by Mini on 13:13:23 3/22/2001 I didn't mean that John and Patsy testified before the GJ but that Burke did and the Ramseys revealed part of that testimony when the gag order is still in place. Patsy tucked JB in tightly that night and doesn't remember if there was a blanket on her bed? Doesn't she feel guilty about reciting "Now I lay me down to sleep...and if I die before I wake..."? What's John's obsession with Burke turning 40? Or is he just still stuck on his "700 Club" interview? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 89. "Hmmmm ..." Posted by Grace on 13:30:43 3/22/2001 "John, looking weary in shirtsleeves, said they also never told Burke that they are suspects in the murder. But he revealed that an attorney he hired to represent Burke told the boy before he testified at a grand jury proceeding in May 1999." I guess Patsy was worrying needlessly when she called LKL and complained about Burke's having to see the tabs in front of his face all the time. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 90. "April Fool's joke?" Posted by darby on 14:01:25 3/22/2001 WY--What is the date on that Enquirer? [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 91. "Darb...the date is April 3" Posted by LurkerXIV on 14:38:48 3/22/2001 and it's no joke. To me, the most startling admission from Patsy is that she actually suspected John of molesting JonBenet, to the point where she insisted that Nedra sleep in JonBenet's room, when there were other rooms available. [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 92. "$1,000,000" Posted by JR on 15:28:03 3/22/2001 Maybe PR and JR are going to confess in the tabs soon and cash in on that big reward - having lots of money in prison helps the prisoner but lots of favored treatment. Didn't the R's make the statement on several of the talk shows that they had never doubted nor questioned each other? Now PR says she did wonder if JR had molested JBR - they just can't keep their story straight. But then liars usually have that problem not to say they are lying - maybe just having "Senior Moments?" Why would it take 4 1/2 years (they now say 2+ but have denied much of what is said here recently in the talk show circuit) to remember an important detail like your only child remaining at home was awake for one of the saddest, scariest and most important periods in your life? Again...gag! Having trouble swallowing all this chit! If this interview is really direct quotes (this is the tabs after all) I suspect this investigation may get hot real quick and the R's 1)know they are about to be arrested 2)know they do not have the right friends in the right places anymore to protect them or 3) have been threatened by Burke to that he will reveal all. (IMHO of course.) [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 94. "Do you remember" Posted by Greenleaf on 06:33:51 3/23/2001 Aunt Pitty Pat in Gone With The Wind? That's who Patsy reminds me of. GL [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]