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Enquirer-Thread Two, LurkerXIV, 12:55:16, 3/22/2001 Lurker, janab, 12:57:12, 3/22/2001, (#1) Speed, FT, 13:11:57, 3/22/2001, (#2) Well, will Wonders never cease........., sds, 13:27:16, 3/22/2001, (#7) Toooooooo quiet ......, Mee Too, 13:18:06, 3/22/2001, (#3) Mee Too, janab, 13:19:29, 3/22/2001, (#4) Too, Watching you, 13:20:46, 3/22/2001, (#5) WY, FT, 13:23:59, 3/22/2001, (#6) FT, Watching you, 13:29:56, 3/22/2001, (#9) Well, FT........, sds, 13:28:52, 3/22/2001, (#8) Oh no, sds!, FT, 13:31:45, 3/22/2001, (#10) Future Enquirer scoops, mary99, 13:46:24, 3/22/2001, (#13) Well here i am girls, Nedthan Johns, 13:46:19, 3/22/2001, (#12) head for the archives, fly, 13:44:13, 3/22/2001, (#11) um fly, freebird, 13:48:29, 3/22/2001, (#15) Fly..., Nedthan Johns, 13:47:27, 3/22/2001, (#14) How do you guys do it???, freebird, 13:51:49, 3/22/2001, (#18) I wonder though, Nedthan Johns, 13:49:35, 3/22/2001, (#16) freebird, fly, 13:57:50, 3/22/2001, (#20) Fly, freebird, 14:07:01, 3/22/2001, (#29) freebird, fly, 14:15:43, 3/22/2001, (#33) Fly, freebird, 14:20:50, 3/22/2001, (#35) Just think..., janab, 13:50:40, 3/22/2001, (#17) Burke: Asleep or not asleep?, Ellique, 14:10:11, 3/22/2001, (#30) speechless, mary99, 13:58:11, 3/22/2001, (#21) Box Score, V, 13:54:32, 3/22/2001, (#19) LOL, V, mary99, 14:02:52, 3/22/2001, (#26) mary99, V, 14:14:11, 3/22/2001, (#32) and whats scary is , freebird, 14:02:17, 3/22/2001, (#24) Lying?, janab, 13:58:48, 3/22/2001, (#22) Hi Janab....., Mee Too, 14:00:23, 3/22/2001, (#23) I smell crow cooking.Lol, Starling, 14:03:08, 3/22/2001, (#27) janab, fly, 14:02:40, 3/22/2001, (#25) Wait Ned, Starling, 14:12:17, 3/22/2001, (#31) Let's go ahead and start #3, janab, 14:05:15, 3/22/2001, (#28) Starling and others, Nedthan Johns, 14:21:20, 3/22/2001, (#36) The Rams same old Bull...., mother, 14:17:09, 3/22/2001, (#34) Sorry, Ned, olde friend......, sds, 15:45:12, 3/22/2001, (#38) Doing the "Neddery-thing", Dunvegan, 15:43:42, 3/22/2001, (#37) Hmmmm, Aurora, 16:56:22, 3/22/2001, (#39) ................................................................... "Enquirer-Thread Two" Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:55:16 3/22/2001 janab thinks we'll have 7 or 8 of these... Carry on! [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Lurker" Posted by janab on 12:57:12 3/22/2001 ;-) Thanks for the help! You good. . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Speed" Posted by FT on 13:11:57 3/22/2001 "Oh, is that from that movie?" asked Patsy, her eyes opening wide. Clue to Patsy: If you have any interest in finding the murderer of your daughter, you might want to brush up on some of the basics of the ransom note. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Well, will Wonders never cease........." Posted by sds on 13:27:16 3/22/2001 Sounds like the Rams are getting closer to a confession.......maybe they'll make it to the Tabs. I guess that they will do anything for attention, don't you think? Or maybe they are getting ready to pin it on Burke. First they said they came home at 9 PM for years, then they said it was 10 PM. Now they say Burke was awake. Wonder what the next uncovered lie is going to be? And why this change in the story now, after 4 1/2 years? Something must be getting ready to break. Yeh, JBR was zonked alright. Wonder what they gave her? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Toooooooo quiet ......" Posted by Mee Too on 13:18:06 3/22/2001 The "MOLE" must have fowarded JW's posts to Hir...Jameson must be busy reading ALL of our posts.....LOL Thanks LurkerXIV for part 2... I still haven't figured out how to read ALL the posts on a thread past 4O with this Web-TV..... ....(Mee Too) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Mee Too" Posted by janab on 13:19:29 3/22/2001 Do you need anything reposted over here, or would that make this thread too cumbersome? . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Too" Posted by Watching you on 13:20:46 3/22/2001 cumbersome, methinks. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "WY" Posted by FT on 13:23:59 3/22/2001 Thanks for all your typing. You were faster than Nedd! BTW, are there any pictures accompanying the article? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "FT" Posted by Watching you on 13:29:56 3/22/2001 Yep. There is a picture of Patsy and John - Patsy is wearing light blue suit jacket and white blouse (head and shoulder shots), a picture of Burke (same picture that was in the tabs weeks ago), and one of JB and Jacques - JB was four years old. Also the picture that was on the back of PMPT - the one of her in the swimsuit at the steering wheel of the boat, and a shot of her bedroom. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Well, FT........" Posted by sds on 13:28:52 3/22/2001 Don't you wonder what Nedboy will say about this latest revelation about his favorite couple, the Rams? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Oh no, sds!" Posted by FT on 13:31:45 3/22/2001 What if he reposts and replies to every post on the first Enquirer thread? It might crash the forum! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Future Enquirer scoops" Posted by mary99 on 13:46:24 3/22/2001 "John Says: Burke Did It" "Patsy Ramsey Confesses to Rev. Don Gentile" "All My Sex Rings" "Burke Disowns Family" "Our JBR Foundation Was A Sham" "Code Six Wingnut Implodes" [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Well here i am girls" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 13:46:19 3/22/2001 Don't hold out for long winded posts. First again remember this IS a tabloid Take it with a grain of salt, secondly how does this story equate with lying? They said they did not know that Burke was awake and only found out that he pretended to be asleep after he had testified before a grand jury. So how does that equate to them lying? They thought he was asleep and to the best of their knowledge he was. I see nothing sinister in revealing this, nor do I see it different from what they testified too [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "head for the archives" Posted by fly on 13:44:13 3/22/2001 Let's keep in mind there is a difference between lying and giving information that you do not realize is false. Sure, it is very possible that the Ramseys lied to police about Burke, and this is a "fix-it" version. It is also possible that what they say here is true: they didn't know Burke was awake until the GJ. Now quit laughing - it is possible. If you want evidence that this is just a "fix-it," you might go looking for an occasion between Burke's GJ appearance and this interview when they denied Burke was awake. Did they say that during any of the interviews associated with DOI or the lawsuits? Saying Burke's voice isn't on the tape isn't good enough, unless they say, "because he was asleep at the time." That "tears in his eyes" line is interesting, I agree. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "um fly" Posted by freebird on 13:48:29 3/22/2001 What would be the reasoning for continuing this 'Burke was asleep' tale for the last 2 1/2 years since they found out? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Fly..." Posted by Nedthan Johns on 13:47:27 3/22/2001 You beat me to the punch. Exactly. Even IF this tabloid interview is true, it doesn't reveal them as liars IMO [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "How do you guys do it???" Posted by freebird on 13:51:49 3/22/2001 How can you read was was said and walk away saying the Ramseys haven't lied? you were joking right? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "I wonder though" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 13:49:35 3/22/2001 Could it be that the Ramsey's funds are running low and that giving an interview with the tab's was a financial move, considering they talk bad about them anyhow, perhpas the Rams thought they could use the money for their defense team, for the upcomming law suits. Just a thought. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "freebird" Posted by fly on 13:57:50 3/22/2001 freebird - First establish that they did continue this story (i.e., that they specifically said he was asleep during the call) for 2 years, and then we can talk about motive. Remember, just because WE are discussing this, doesn't mean that it is on the minds of others. I don't expect them to issue a news release saying, "We goofed! He WAS awake!" (just look at the reaction now). I would expect them to come clean if asked, or if they were commenting on Burke's actions that morning, however. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if somebody can find a time where they repeated the old story. I'd be thumbing through DOI if I had one, for sure. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Fly" Posted by freebird on 14:07:01 3/22/2001 The Ramseys mouth piece has maintained an internet forum all these years and not once has hir told us that they made a mistake, on the contrary hir has stated as fact that Burke was asleep, over and over and over There is no way out of this, they have deliberatly lied. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "freebird" Posted by fly on 14:15:43 3/22/2001 freebird - I don't hold the Ramseys responsible for what jameson does or does not say, any more than I want to be held responsible for other posters' misrepresentation of what I have posted. I don't think people will have much trouble finding the kind of evidence I said would be nice. Somebody may have already. I will not be surprised in the least if the Ramseys have lied. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Fly" Posted by freebird on 14:20:50 3/22/2001 The Ramseys allow Jams to be their mouth piece, she has a close relationship with them, she is in contact with the investigators, Patsy, John, all the sisters and any other person associated with them, They has allowed her to speak for them, But I'm sure you know all this and to continue this is useless. They lied, they allowed the lie to continue, end of story, sorry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Just think..." Posted by janab on 13:50:40 3/22/2001 If they confess, they could get the $1 million reward! . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Burke: Asleep or not asleep?" Posted by Ellique on 14:10:11 3/22/2001 I have always wondered how Burke could have slept through all of that commotion when his parents got up that morning. I have asked this question many times: How does his being awake at that time impact on who murdered the child? The important question seems to be was he awake during the murder of the child. Now, that sort of information would indeed be enlightening. I venture to say that he was not, therefore the Inquirer story is, at best, a non-story really. Someone please enlighten me as to why his being awake during the commotion that morning helps in the investigation. Before this thing is all over there will be many many other insignificant senarios come to light that have to be explained. God help me if I ever have to remember every little detail during such an event. I probably would have even forgotten my name for a week or two. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "speechless" Posted by mary99 on 13:58:11 3/22/2001 Nine - count'em -9 posts over 'there' on two threads and we're up to, oh heck, 100 over 'here'. I think their gyroscope has run out of spin. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Box Score" Posted by V on 13:57:22 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:57:22, 3/22/2001 As of now (1:52 p.m. Mountain) there have been 108 posts here, and a grand total of nine at that other forum (both public and private flavors). [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "LOL, V" Posted by mary99 on 14:02:52 3/22/2001 We noticed the same thing at the same time. This is a momentous occasion! Hope Chris checks in, to savor the spin! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "mary99" Posted by V on 14:14:11 3/22/2001 . . . within 49 seconds of each other! That's synchronicity! At the time of the Littleton shootings, there were scores, maybe hundreds, of posts on JusticeWatch within a few hours. Everything from breathless accounts of the news to prayers for the safety of relatives in the area to impassioned spiels on What It All Means. In the same time period there were about a dozen posts on a certain-other-forum, mostly boilerplate cut-and-paste from major news media. As I said at the time: (((((((((WE GOT COMMUNITY!))))))))) . . . And it's impossible to fake the real-time reaction of a real community to unexpected events. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "and whats scary is " Posted by freebird on 14:02:17 3/22/2001 those who have commented see nothing wrong with being deceived by the Ramseys all these years and in fact see it as proof of innocence? pathetic, no wonder JB still has seen no Justice. Shame on her parents for at the very least allowing this 'misinformation' to continue and hamper the investigation of their childs murder. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Lying?" Posted by janab on 14:00:08 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:00:08, 3/22/2001 From the Enquirer story: #1 "When asked when Burke woke up, John said it was after Patsy discovered the ransom note shortly after 5:30 a.m." #2 "Then he quickly changed his answer to say Burke woke up after the 911 call." #3 "But then John changed his story again, calling The ENQUIRER as we went to press to say that Burke was awake BEFORE the 911 call." ~~~~ One of these was a lie, right? Or, he just couldn't remember that he'd learned from Burke's testimony that he was really awake? Or, he couldn't remember that he'd already said that Burke was awake? Or, he remembered that he said Burke was awake at some point that morning, but couldn't remember at what time he said he was awake and who he was speaking to when he said it? Hmmm... (Edited to put the quotes in quotes or nobody would believe they actually came from the story and might have thought that I made them up!) . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Hi Janab....." Posted by Mee Too on 14:00:23 3/22/2001 Your a sweetheart....It would probly just slow this thread down if you reposted from 40..How about reposting say from 60...... I was thinking of other Web-Tv users and those with slower puters when the threads are so long..... Much Thanks.....(Mee Too) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "I smell crow cooking.Lol" Posted by Starling on 14:03:08 3/22/2001 John Ramsey is the biggest f****** liar on this planet. I can't believe what I'm reading. I keep thinking someone is going to say 'oh early April fools, star.'LOL So the tape is right on. Patsy is still sticking by, her story, she didn't see Burke nowhere in the vicinity after the phone call - yet now John (biggest liar on this planet) admits to a visual of the kid, after knowingly and deliberately lying to police for all these years: "Burke was frightened. He had tears in his eyes. He knew something very very wrong was going on." He sees a frightened child and then yells at him. It's a fact Jack! John Ramsey is pure evil. I feel it from the depths of my soul. What I get from this article: 1. Even though it says John and Patsy change their story about Burke being awake, I'm reading it's only John whose story is changing. Sounds like Patsy is just going with the flow, with what originated from Burke testifying. 2. Not telling Jeff was given guardianship of Burke. If involved, this proves to me that John had a real fear of going to jail also. 3. Prim, proper, Patsy in purple. John weary is shortsleeves. 4. John changed his story 3 times to a tab reporter. 5. John changed his story 3 times to a tab reporter. 6. John changed his story 3 times to a tab reporter. LOL 7. Pitty pat my a$$. 8. Patsy is a liar. In the croc she said she never considered John being involved in the murder. Now she admits she did consider her hubby was a pedophile. Oh and the story about Nedra sleeping in the same room with JonBenet means zilch to me. If there's the will - there's a way. Try again Patsy. 9. Patsy is also lying about writing with her left hand. She can do it. Legible. 10. "I am in Boulder and walking the alleyways, the alleys behind our home - and just searching and searching and searching. And you know I'll come upon a group of people standing there. And I'll say be careful, be careful, there's someone around here that's killing people. I have that dream over and over." This is a pipedream.Lol JonBenet isn't even in it. I'm surprised Patsy didn't tell the reporter 'and I can here the line in the song America let freedom ring playing in the background.' Lol 11. "She's usually about 2 or 3 years old and I'm holding her," John said, describing the dreams as 'very comforting. I wake up with a very close feeling." Notice his dreams are of her, at a time when she was really like a kid. No make-up, no bleached hair. The real deal. I'm tempted to say a few mean things too, but I won't. But I should. Maybe he'd sue me. Suey! 12. Patsy knew when Nedra died she would know everything. I find it notable, that Patsy felt compelled to share this. Hmmmmmm.... I smell crow cookin' for dinner, for alot of people.LMAO [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "janab" Posted by fly on 14:02:40 3/22/2001 janab - That looks like a problem, for sure. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Wait Ned" Posted by Starling on 14:12:17 3/22/2001 John said burke had big tears in his eyes. Are you saying he garnished that tidbit somewhere else? Like from a transcript of Burke's GJ testimony? No, no, no, no! If he read that from a transcript, Burke may have said I was so upset I was crying, but honestly there's no way that Burke described himself to a GJ that he had big tears in his eyes. If John didn't say this deliberately, then it was a slip. Either way it prooves to me - he had a visual on the kid. It's John talking to the kid on the tape. You understand? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Let's go ahead and start #3" Posted by janab on 14:05:15 3/22/2001 This is for Mee Too and all other Web TV users everywhere (except I edited out where NYL reposted the story, since the story had already been posted, that's mean, I know): 60. "Ramsey Stradegy" Posted by Tomahawk on 12:19:07 3/22/2001 The Ramseys have torn this play right out of the Bill Clinton White House playbook! If something bad is going to come out about you.......you hit the press first and make it appear that you are cooperating and being honest. It is pure Clintonian political stradegy. If the Ramseys find that they have to change their story to fit the facts, they run to the Tabs and try to make it look like they just made an honest mistake. These people are dishonest. That crap about never talking to Burke about the death of his sister is simply not believable. The fact is that the Ramseys are not believable. The people who believe them are willfully ignorant and blinded by their own misconceptions about human nature. You truly can fool some of the people all of the time, but that pool of people is getting smaller all the time. Maybe some day the Boulder authorities will realize this and get up the nerve to take the case to court. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 59. "Hmmmmmm......." Posted by CensusGrrl on 12:18:35 3/22/2001 ...is this the first sign that Ruthee has kickstarted Panico and Babe and Allipat and even Nedra into making sure us mere mortals finally get the straight story from the horse's mouth? That'd be neat, all these angelic truthseekers whispering to J&P "Confess, confess, you'll never get to heaven if you don't....." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 49. "Patsy's quote" Posted by darby on 12:08:31 3/22/2001 is priceless. "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 57. "EdieP" Posted by Holly on 12:17:15 3/22/2001 Yep... Tick, tick, tick... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 46. "Maybe" Posted by pinker on 12:05:57 3/22/2001 if the BPD paid for interviews the Ramseys would sit down with them too..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 52. "Gee" Posted by mary99 on 12:10:38 3/22/2001 At the swamp they are still in the dark. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 55. "Mary99" Posted by freebird on 12:15:14 3/22/2001 I was just there to see what was going on and nothing nada zip, was rereading the posts about the defective detective, and about the 911 call that never happened, waiting to see how long before some of that stuff gets pulled.LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 53. "Maybe" Posted by darby on 12:13:32 3/22/2001 hir really IS out of the loop? I'll just bet the Ramseys didn't tell hir about this interview. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 58. "Hoo wee!" Posted by janab on 12:17:27 3/22/2001 What a day. Oh, public, the masses, you must believe we're innocent, even though we just admitted that we've lied to the police from the get go. NOW we're telling the truth, honest. GAG. I can't even believe this. Whoever mentioned "zonked," that stuck out like a sore thumb (or sore head?) to me also. I can't believe it. I can't believe this whole freaking thing! Guess A.K. wasn't kidding, eh? I don't even know what else to say... zonked purple=death considered JR molesting JBR as a possibility More, much more to come. Taking bets on thread parts? Five or six, minimum, I'd say. . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 70. "Gee janab," Posted by Holly on 12:29:56 3/22/2001 I was hoping for a REAL story... Instead, an amusing Gentile romp with the Rams. Is that supposed to be news? Well I suppose so, if you're tab connected. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 56. "this one is priceless" Posted by mary99 on 12:16:28 3/22/2001 "She's usually about 2 or 3 years old and I'm holding her," John said, describing the dreams as 'very comforting. I wake up with a very close feeling." Yeah, I know how guys wake up... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 66. "Eeeeeeew...mary99" Posted by Holly on 12:26:41 3/22/2001 JR should just shut the hell up. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 61. "Bald face liar....." Posted by Mee Too on 12:19:17 3/22/2001 Huhhhh...Previously Patsy says SHE TUCKED JonBenet in REAL TIGHT......Now Patsy's saying she doesn't remember....???? Patsy wore a Purple suit for the interview..hmmmm very interesting... PATSY...Poster girl for the ENQUIRER...LOL I bet Jamesom flipped over that remark....LOL Those nasty Tabs! ......(Mee Too) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 62. "The Interview" Posted by New York Lawyer on 12:19:40 3/22/2001 THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER April 3, 2001 RAMSEYS CHANGE THEIR STORY ABOUT MURDER NIGHT By David Wright & Don Gentile [TEXT EDITED OUT FOR BREVITY] [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64. "NYL" Posted by janab on 12:21:17 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:21:17, 3/22/2001 So that I don't have to re-read all that, can you tell us if there's something there that has not already been posted by WY? . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 67. "Thanks, WY!!" Posted by janphi on 12:27:15 3/22/2001 Huh? "Yeah, he testified to that. We thought he was asleep but he wasn't," said John, who had told police their son slept through the tragedy. Then how in the hell do you know this?.... "Burke was frightened. He had tears in his eyes. He knew something very very wrong was going on." Huh? How is John telling this as if he knew AT THE TIME Burke was crying, if he also says he didn't know Burke was awake till 2-1/2 years later? Huh? *Even though it's almost inconceivable that John and Patsy wouldn't talk to Burke about the murder, they say they didn't find out Burke was awake the morning of the tragedy until he testified before a grand jury nearly two and a half years later! --------- SAINT PATSY'S DAY Cookies? She gave them COOKIES? And they ATE them? And they LIVED? ------- My favorite line: "John, looking weary in shirtsleeves," ------- "Yeah, I worry, you betcha we do," John said with a sigh. "In fact that's one of the risks you have with a child with a traumatic experience like that. "They keep a lot inside and they don't really start thinking about it until they get to be 40 years old and that's when it hurts." ------- When asked when Burke woke up, John said it was after Patsy discovered the ransom note shortly after 5:30 a.m. Then he quickly changed his answer to say Burke woke up after the 911 call. But then John changed his story again, calling The ENQUIRER as we went to press to say that Burke was awake BEFORE the 911 call. John told us: "Burke recalled his mother screaming, "Where's my baby?' and me saying, 'Calm down, calm down, we need to call the police." John Ramsey, you tell me right now, "Where's my baby?" "What did you do with her?" ------ First John described finding JBR's body as something "in a dream" on morning TV...then Patsy says this: "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat. I mean right now, I'm feeling like, gosh, this happened to my child." WHAT WAS THIS, A MUNCHAUSEN'S-BY-PROXY CARNIVAL RIDE? ------ She said her mother "came to take care of the kids (when I had cancer). She slept in the othter bed in JonBenet's room. I mean, if John was coming in to molest JonBenet, you know that's not going to happen 'cause Grandma was right there very night." Ah, there was no Susan Stine yet. So, was Grandma the bodyguard of the little beauty queens in the Paugh household, too? ------- "Can I write with my left hand?" "I can- but not very well." Can you tie a Prusik knot? "I can- but not very well." Could you cover up a murder? "I can- but not very well." Do you know how to tell the truth? "I can- but not very well." -------- And I'll say be careful, be careful, there's someone around here that's killing people. And I'll say, IT'S ME! ------ John also has recurring dreams involving JonBenet - but not as a 6-year-old, her age at the time of her death. "She's usually about 2 or 3 years old and I'm holding her," John said, describing the dreams as 'very comforting. I wake up with a very close feeling." WELL, NOW, I JUST WONDER WHY SHE'S ALWAYS PRE-PAGEANT! ------- Chipmunks! Remember, Burke talks just like CHIPFRICKINGMUNKS! -------- [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 73. "From Scarlett to Aunt Pitty-Pat..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:37:57 3/22/2001 ...in 4 and 1/2 years! I'm thinking a couple of things here: The focus of the investigation has shifted from Patsy to John. Patsy is doing some distancing here from John and his earlier statements to police. (Bets...your new theory may be prophetic). Lin Wood, during discovery for the tab lawsuits, has learned what some of the concrete evidence against his clients is. The enhanced tape, e.g., has no doubt been determined to be irrefutable by the defense. So Rams must own up to their prevarications to attain some credibility in the lawsuits (?) Patsy is being prepped for her depositions in the LHP lawsuit. She is practicing on Don Gentile, and seeing how some of this chit will go over with the public. OR: The Rams know somehow that they are home free, and can say any damn thing they want to anyone! "Yes, we were lying about everything all along. You think we did it? PROVE IT!" [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 69. "I just saw" Posted by momo on 12:28:50 3/22/2001 that there is a thread titled "Still in the dark" by Youeatcrow over at the "public bathroom" at Jams site. I guess NYL/candy will be letting them know the whole story soon. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 78. "LOL momo" Posted by mary99 on 12:43:14 3/22/2001 I wonder how long that will last? Hope your knee holds up under all this knee-slapping excitement! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 68. "Burke has remained STRANGELY quiet" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:27:59 3/22/2001 I "betcha" their worries are well founded. Are they building a case for "Burke's a nut, you can't believe his ramblings"? I remember being 14, and nobody killed anyone, but you'd think my parents were the Charles Manson's to hear me tell it. Burke really has a case against them, it can't be pretty at the Ramsey hacienda:-) "Strangely quiet" is a whole lot scarier than "inquisitive", no? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 71. "EdieP" Posted by Holly on 12:33:01 3/22/2001 Imagine two years of wondering what else the little guy might have heard. Good thing Uncle Fleet snatched him away from the crime scene. Maybe that "exorcism" was needed after all. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 72. "fishing expedition" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:36:35 3/22/2001 recall the fishing trip JR took Burke on, following the gj testimony? Holly, do you think what I think? That "Uncle Fleet" took the boy on a "fishing expedition" first? Beep beep... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 79. "Hope those feets go pitty pat" Posted by Cassandra on 12:45:37 3/22/2001 all the way to the big house! lol Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 74. "I see" Posted by momo on 12:40:33 3/22/2001 at the LH's forum they think that it is a joke and that the Enquirer did NOT interview the Ramseys. Denial is not just a river. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 75. "I saw that, momo" Posted by Watching you on 12:41:32 3/22/2001 Ms. Lavendar says, yeah, like the Ramseys are going to give the ENQUIRER an interview. I may die laughing. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 76. "WY" Posted by momo on 12:42:38 3/22/2001 The chit is about to hit the fan over there, LOL. I can't wait. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 80. "chit hits GIANT fan" Posted by mary99 on 12:49:21 3/22/2001 size of Lockheed-Martin aircraft engine. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 77. "Holly" Posted by janab on 12:42:45 3/22/2001 Well, it is certainly fodder, isn't it? I think there's news in there somewhere (R's admit lying to police). Honestly, 75 posts in what? An hour and 41 minutes. We're not usually posting that fast and furious on one thread about one subject, so you can't say this hasn't provided us with something, right? . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 86. "Random thoughts...." Posted by listener on 13:30:25 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:30:25, 3/22/2001 Pats saying, my hear goes pitty pat at the thought of her beloved irreplaceble daughter has been brutally murdered and molested? That remark is just way off the chart! You have to ask yourselves *WHY* would granny stay glued to JB's room every night when there was an empty room nearby. John saying, "All I see is this bus." Ya you betcha! And he forgot to mention all the folks he's obsessed with throwing under it. About Pat's reoccuring dream, and seeing those people in the alley. Remember way back in the beginning, the spin about 2 ladies in the alley? Is this one coming back to haunt us? Does it have to do with some sort of rift amongst some sort of clandestine clan? Maybe Jon dreams of JB being 2-3 yrs old, because it *comforts* him to think that at that time in her life, he was respectful and kind to her,.....before the molestation started. LOL: Eddie Pratt: bonked, not zonked! Holly: So keeping a gun vault unlocked is a good idea! HEY WATCHING YOU !..........THANX!!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 83. "the sweet Sound of Silence" Posted by mary99 on 12:52:42 3/22/2001 one could hear a pin drop, it's so quiet over there. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 82. "lol we're all here at once" Posted by Cassandra on 12:51:30 3/22/2001 for a change! Fingers are flying! I think this interview should conclude with: "covering our as*es in advance, we remain, under the umbrella of suspicion, wearing the royal purple, Yours, Pats and John Boy" Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 81. "Woah!" Posted by Ayeka on 12:52:40 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:52:40, 3/22/2001 "It kind of makes my heart go pitty-pat." Doesn't your heart go pitty-pat when you see the person you love, or a beautiful sunset, or ... well, feel a GOOD feeling? Why the hell is her heart going pitty-pat at the thought of her daughter's murder?! Ayeka [edited cuz i kan't spele :)] [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 84. "pitty-pat" Posted by mary99 on 12:55:05 3/22/2001 and patsy-cakes for Patsy-poo. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 85. "Eeek" Posted by janab on 12:57:41 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:57:41, 3/22/2001 Just returned from never, never land, and it is roaringly quiet over there. Whassup? Bet jams is trying frantically to reach the R's and find out why the heck she wasn't privy to this so that she could pre-construct her answers to all the questions that must be right on the tips of her followers' tongues! . janab EDITED to say GO TO THREAD 2! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 87. "Why, didn't you see?" Posted by janphi on 13:00:21 3/22/2001 They said it was nice to finally see a tab article that plainly tells the Ramseys are innocent! Yes, they wrote that over there. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 88. "Cassandra" Posted by Mini on 13:13:23 3/22/2001 I didn't mean that John and Patsy testified before the GJ but that Burke did and the Ramseys revealed part of that testimony when the gag order is still in place. Patsy tucked JB in tightly that night and doesn't remember if there was a blanket on her bed? Doesn't she feel guilty about reciting "Now I lay me down to sleep...and if I die before I wake..."? What's John's obsession with Burke turning 40? Or is he just still stuck on his "700 Club" interview? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 89. "Hmmmm ..." Posted by Grace on 13:30:43 3/22/2001 "John, looking weary in shirtsleeves, said they also never told Burke that they are suspects in the murder. But he revealed that an attorney he hired to represent Burke told the boy before he testified at a grand jury proceeding in May 1999." I guess Patsy was worrying needlessly when she called LKL and complained about Burke's having to see the tabs in front of his face all the time. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 90. "April Fool's joke?" Posted by darby on 14:01:25 3/22/2001 WY--What is the date on that Enquirer? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Starling and others" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 14:21:20 3/22/2001 I think you are all making way too much out of this tidbit with the tabs. And YES Starling I think the tears in his eyes, was innocent, and does not necessiarly mean he had a visual on his kid. There is nothing new in this story. The Ramsey's thought Burke was asleep, big deal he really wasn't [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "The Rams same old Bull...." Posted by mother on 14:17:09 3/22/2001 that's all I can say. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "Sorry, Ned, olde friend......" Posted by sds on 15:45:12 3/22/2001 No big deal that Burke baby was awake and not asleep, but it is a big deal that the Gruesome Twosome lied about it all these years when everybody knows that Burke's voice was on that 911 tape. Kind of makes you wonder what else they lied about, like "who killed JBR"? Makes my little ole heart go pitty pat. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Doing the "Neddery-thing"" Posted by Dunvegan on 15:47:47 3/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:47:47, 3/22/2001 Nedd (to JW): "I think you are all making way too much out of this tidbit with the tabs." Dunvegan (regarding Nedd's proclamation to JW): Bwaa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Really, Nedd? Gosh, it must be getting anorexic over on the spin team margin. I go away to work for ONE day...and look what happens...Kaaa-blewie! Was the Enquirer headline: Ramseys Spontaneously Combust! What happened? Why now? It's the upcoming cases. They are going to have to testify/speak under oath. What's that sound? It's the sound of the case being blown wide open, that's what. Edited to say: if this is the April 1st edition of the NE, and this is all a joke...I'll be so mad, I'll...I'll...why, I'll help the Ramz sue the Enquirer...or something.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Hmmmm" Posted by Aurora on 16:56:22 3/22/2001 if Burke was awake than he knows more than he is telling. Why do you suppose JR is worried what will happen to him (mentally) when he is 40? I saw a medical detective show the other nite and a kid that saw her dad kill her Mother when she was only 5 years old.. finally turned him in when she was 32. She held that memory inside and knew where he had buried her by the pool and covered her with fresh cement. She was scared of her dad but could not live with knowing the truth and not telling. They dug where she said..and sure enough...they found the bones of her Mother which had been there for so many years. Her dad was now around 60 and went to prison for life for the murder so many years before. When Burke gets older...he will think like an adult and see thru all their lies and mayhaps do right by his little sister. Ramsey's know it is going to come out that Burke was awake ...so they are covering their sorry arses! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]