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HOAP!!!, Chris, 15:35:14, 3/24/2000 Guilty!, Lacey, 15:39:07, 3/24/2000, (#1) Three bookstores, reporter, 15:40:02, 3/24/2000, (#2) Thinking of options . . ., Hyacinth, 15:46:05, 3/24/2000, (#3) Amazon Sales Rank..., CensusGrrl, 15:48:28, 3/24/2000, (#5) Chris, lecarl, 15:47:03, 3/24/2000, (#4) dear me, luvsflowers, 15:54:13, 3/24/2000, (#6) I looked at the pictures, South, 15:59:17, 3/24/2000, (#11) I Bought It., Ruthee, 15:56:39, 3/24/2000, (#10) ., Gemini, 15:55:18, 3/24/2000, (#7) Oh no, lecarl, FT, 15:55:21, 3/24/2000, (#8) HOAP!!, Harmony, 15:56:18, 3/24/2000, (#9) HOAP, too, Policedog, 16:16:07, 3/24/2000, (#13) Nothing spent here!, Ron S., 16:08:15, 3/24/2000, (#12) Nada, sarah, 16:36:31, 3/24/2000, (#19) Ron S, I love it when you wax ..., driver, 16:29:22, 3/24/2000, (#16) NO!!!!!, rose, 16:29:21, 3/24/2000, (#15) Nope, tx_sunshine, 16:24:37, 3/24/2000, (#14) OH NO, Ruthee, 16:32:29, 3/24/2000, (#17) Ruthee and Lacey!, Sailer, 16:39:41, 3/24/2000, (#20) Nada here, sherryf135, 16:34:26, 3/24/2000, (#18) Ruthee, Ginja, 16:42:51, 3/24/2000, (#21) lecarl, tinky, 16:47:09, 3/24/2000, (#22) Another HOAP here..., puma_overlooking_Boulder, 16:59:39, 3/24/2000, (#23) True HOAP, nostradamus, 17:10:39, 3/24/2000, (#24) No, I didn't buy the book but,, pybird, 17:24:38, 3/24/2000, (#27) Happy HOAP here, shana, 17:19:06, 3/24/2000, (#26) from canada, canadiana, 17:18:33, 3/24/2000, (#25) I screwed up, lecarl, 17:25:26, 3/24/2000, (#28) DOI, Aurora, 18:12:28, 3/24/2000, (#39) Yes, Aurora!, Jellyjaws, 18:32:09, 3/26/2000, (#95) No but..., MsPlum, 18:06:14, 3/24/2000, (#37) pybird, you're welcome, lecarl, 17:55:40, 3/24/2000, (#32) That was a parody of Patsy, le..., Hyacinth, 17:55:15, 3/24/2000, (#31) well, Kelly, 17:50:59, 3/24/2000, (#29) 99.99% Not Guilty, JR, 17:58:06, 3/24/2000, (#33) BTW, Kelly, 17:54:33, 3/24/2000, (#30) Does it count, starfish, 17:59:55, 3/24/2000, (#35) Kelly, lecarl, 17:59:01, 3/24/2000, (#34) lecarl..., pybird, 18:04:37, 3/24/2000, (#36) JR, lecarl, 18:08:18, 3/24/2000, (#38) Lecarl, JR, 17:47:10, 3/25/2000, (#81) HOAP, too...., LabMom, 18:27:25, 3/24/2000, (#42) Heavens, NO, Seashell, 18:20:43, 3/24/2000, (#41) They are on Hardball, lecarl, 18:16:40, 3/24/2000, (#40) I agonized over this--, fiddler, 18:33:26, 3/24/2000, (#43) Won't Buy It, straykat2, 19:00:02, 3/24/2000, (#45) True HOAP , Denver, 18:51:03, 3/24/2000, (#44) I bought, Pope38, 19:03:24, 3/24/2000, (#46) Well, China, 19:32:07, 3/24/2000, (#47) I haven't bought it...yet, LurkerXIV, 19:48:49, 3/24/2000, (#48) DOI... that POS..., Fra, 20:00:30, 3/24/2000, (#50) No DOI!, Country Girl, 19:59:02, 3/24/2000, (#49) No POS in my bedroom..., Fra, 20:23:00, 3/24/2000, (#52) Fra & Countrygirl, lecarl, 20:04:07, 3/24/2000, (#51) Bought the book, momo, 20:39:44, 3/24/2000, (#55) I don't want to buy the book o..., CaringMom, 22:16:29, 3/24/2000, (#61) Lecarl, come to the Spring Fli..., Fra, 20:29:56, 3/24/2000, (#53) Fra, lecarl, 20:32:23, 3/24/2000, (#54) HOAP springs eternal here>>>, ayelean, 21:47:40, 3/24/2000, (#56) When they're indicted..., mary99, 22:06:37, 3/24/2000, (#58) No Way!, KimmyAnni, 21:58:09, 3/24/2000, (#57) Lecarl... Spring Fling..., Fra, 22:09:34, 3/24/2000, (#59) Lecarl..., Fra, 22:11:12, 3/24/2000, (#60) Haven't bought it yet,, lilac, 22:34:00, 3/24/2000, (#64) Fra, lecarl, 22:24:28, 3/24/2000, (#63) lecarl, pat, 22:18:20, 3/24/2000, (#62) Lecarl Shohani... (have I spil..., Fra, 22:39:47, 3/24/2000, (#66) Fra, I'll be there, lecarl, 22:54:01, 3/24/2000, (#67) my granddaughter, lecarl, 22:39:37, 3/24/2000, (#65) Yep., Holly, 22:57:26, 3/24/2000, (#68) Nope!, szundi, 23:08:52, 3/24/2000, (#69) Screw 'em, cairn, 01:46:58, 3/25/2000, (#70) Still H.O.A.P.ing, Sharon, 10:34:14, 3/25/2000, (#73) Pishy Shame! , Cassandra, 10:23:45, 3/25/2000, (#71) A Better Book:, sarah, 10:49:21, 3/25/2000, (#75) I'm shameless, gaiabetsy, 10:43:53, 3/25/2000, (#74) Geez, Ruthee, 10:34:00, 3/25/2000, (#72) Never ever, kdubois2, 11:26:09, 3/25/2000, (#76) No DOI for me!, Ev, 11:46:51, 3/25/2000, (#79) Gave-Up.., shadow, 11:36:42, 3/25/2000, (#77) Also posted on the daily... so..., Fra, 11:46:26, 3/25/2000, (#78) ayelean, lecarl, 17:41:42, 3/25/2000, (#80) Lecarl, explain please..., Fra, 18:01:37, 3/25/2000, (#83) Lecarl, JR, 17:59:48, 3/25/2000, (#82) I Confess..., K777angel, 18:17:46, 3/25/2000, (#85) I bet she wouldn't, lecarl, 18:21:25, 3/25/2000, (#87) Fra & JR, lecarl, 18:07:58, 3/25/2000, (#84) Lecarl, JR, 19:19:14, 3/25/2000, (#88) the Mask, timmmmmm, 18:21:13, 3/25/2000, (#86) not a matter of holding out, Matt, 19:32:06, 3/25/2000, (#89) Matt, Hannah, 19:44:48, 3/25/2000, (#90) Never,, Chart, 22:02:45, 3/25/2000, (#92) gaiabetsy, wow--, fiddler, 21:00:34, 3/25/2000, (#91) I would buy it, starfish, 00:36:40, 3/26/2000, (#93) Definitely not buying it...., LurkerXIV, 17:18:18, 3/26/2000, (#94) NEV the hell ER, ZOKE, 18:41:46, 3/26/2000, (#96) ................................................................... "HOAP!!!" Posted by Chris on 15:35:14 3/24/2000 I see that China has crumbled. (I'm so disappointed!) I'm happy to say that I'm a Hold Out And Proud! Who else has refused to put money in the Ramsey pockets??? [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Guilty!" Posted by Lacey on 15:39:07 3/24/2000 I bought the Wecht book. I have ordered the Thomas book. That's it. Lace . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Three bookstores" Posted by reporter on 15:40:02 3/24/2000 I went to three bookstores in the small city where we live to replenish a cookbook I publish. I looked for the DOI book and asked in all three stores if it was selling well. One said they had sold two books, the other two said, "people look at it, but it sure is not flying off the shelves." I decided if I buy it, it will be after it sells for a couple of dollars, or I can find it at a used book store. I tried to do the math. $700,000 advance, 300,000 printed. I don't have enough knowledge of the book publishing world to know how many the publisher would have to sell to actually make money. BTW I live in Colorado. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Thinking of options . . ." Posted by Hyacinth on 15:46:05 3/24/2000 As I mentioned on another thread I want to buy it and then immediately donate it to our public library to reduce the number of sales in my community. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Amazon Sales Rank..." Posted by CensusGrrl on 15:48:28 3/24/2000 It's out of the top 100 at Amazon, down to 132. Thomas Nelson Publishing had a real bad problem not too long ago when they lost a ton of money because of returns. Watch for it to happen again. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Chris" Posted by lecarl on 15:47:03 3/24/2000 I had no intention of buying the POS, but my grandaughter was visiting and She wanted to go to Costco, so I went with HER and because she is young I had to drive and when we got there I tried to go straight to the nicotine patches and frozen pizzas but I felt this strong force pulling me toward the book section. It was uncanny. I was just looking around, trying to see if there was a new Patricia Cornwell mystery and all of a sudden, my grandaughter shouted, "Grandma! Look! The Ramsey's have written a book! And it's half off!" I said, "No, no, put it down! Don't touch it!" But she put it in my basket and when I got home I didn't want to read it but it was the week-end and I didn't have anything else to do and THIS STRONG FORCE overcame me and I FOUND MYSELF reaching for the POS and , I have to confess, the book was read. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "dear me" Posted by luvsflowers on 15:54:13 3/24/2000 lecarl Im so sorry you could not be stronger. I will send flowers in sympathy. LOL that was a funny story!! Im holding out too Chris. I will not give them one red cent, one thin dime, or anything else of monetary value. whats next for them? with these house tours they need to be on Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous. Did anyone else hear the Rams admit to KC that they STILL believe this was a kidnapping???!!!!! No one else in the world believes that for crying out loud. Even the intruder theorists believe the perp intended to kill and wrote a fake note to throw the police off. Damn, those Rams live on some other planet I swear. I better find me a new hobby. I had no idea that my love of true crime stories would drag me into a 3+ year long wait. luvs [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "I looked at the pictures" Posted by South on 15:59:17 3/24/2000 but didn't buy it. So I'm depending on you who have read it to fill me in. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "I Bought It." Posted by Ruthee on 16:20:25 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:20:25, 3/24/2000 Don't worry, they'll get MY money's worth. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "." Posted by Gemini on 15:56:47 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:56:47, 3/24/2000 Who else has refused to put money in the Ramsey pockets??? Haven't bought it, don't plan to. In fact, the only book I've bought concerning the case is PTPM, for two reasons: 1) It was fairly even in tone, (I have no interest in propaganda from either side) and 2) it included docs and the house layout. Yes lecarl ... I understand. It was all somebody else's fault ; ) . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Oh no, lecarl" Posted by FT on 15:55:21 3/24/2000 You said, "the book was read." Is the passive voice contagious? Will we all start talking like that if we read the POS? I'm not buying the book, literally or figuratively. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "HOAP!!" Posted by Harmony on 15:56:18 3/24/2000 Nay, Nit, Not, Nix, Non, Nope, Nevah!!!! By no means, under no circumstances, not at any price, not on your life, no dice, nothing doing, NO NO NO!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "HOAP, too" Posted by Policedog on 16:16:07 3/24/2000 What Harmony said. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Nothing spent here!" Posted by Ron S. on 16:08:15 3/24/2000 However, I do plan on buying the Thomas book. From everything I have read, it appears money is going to be lost on the Ramsey book. I think that poor sales has a lot to do with all the talk coming from the Ramseys. This book could be going over like a turd in a well! LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Nada" Posted by sarah on 16:36:31 3/24/2000 I would not take the book if it was handed to me on a silver platter with little hors de ouvres around it to make it look better and help disquise the smell of what it is. I have to go throw up now. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Ron S, I love it when you wax poetic" Posted by driver on 16:29:22 3/24/2000 However, I won't be quite as picturesque with my speech. No, I will not buy it. And should it find it's way to me as a gift (not in a million years), I will trot myself down to Barnes and Noble and return it unread. They like me a lot over there, and I am sure they would be happy to let me exchange it for something more appealing, which would be anything else in the store. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "NO!!!!!" Posted by rose on 16:29:21 3/24/2000 I bought PMPT and will buy Thomas's book. In fact I'm counting the days till April 11, 2000. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Nope" Posted by tx_sunshine on 16:24:37 3/24/2000 I refused to buy it. I also refused to watch the bawa interview. Steve T. I can`t wait for your book to hit the shelfs. Hey a new meaning for SBTC....Steves Book To Come. Look out R`s JFJB Hugs Tx-sunshine [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "OH NO" Posted by Ruthee on 16:32:29 3/24/2000 Are Lacy and I the only creeps here? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Ruthee and Lacey!" Posted by Sailer on 16:40:53 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:40:53, 3/24/2000 You're worthless and weak!! Drop and give me 20!! P.S. You too, Lecarl... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Nada here" Posted by sherryf135 on 16:34:26 3/24/2000 I am not going to give them a dime. My money is sacred [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Ruthee" Posted by Ginja on 16:42:51 3/24/2000 You are not alone. However...my consolation was that I paid less than $8 for it three weeks ago, deduct $2.95 for S&H, how much could they have made? :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "lecarl" Posted by tinky on 16:47:09 3/24/2000 Bad Girl....stand in the corner! I know I have looked at it, but have not bought. I am waiting for it to hit the under $5.00 shelf, which I am sure it will soon. Don't feel to bad lecarl...I am drawn to the book also. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Another HOAP here..." Posted by puma_overlooking_Boulder on 16:59:39 3/24/2000 I'm helping keep the Boulder bookstore sales in check -- heheh! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "True HOAP" Posted by nostradamus on 17:10:39 3/24/2000 I would not buy that book if it was on the $1.00 shelf. I have no desire to read what the Ramseys think happened that night. The Ramseys wrote the book because they got a $700,000 advance on it at a time when they were probably down to their last $10,000,000 and were getting frightened. Even if the book goes down the toilet, I bet they get to keep their advance. Does anyone know the facts on that? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "No, I didn't buy the book but," Posted by pybird on 17:24:38 3/24/2000 lecarl, I appreciate you, and all the other posters that have brought us information from the POS. While I was waiting for my daughter's Rx to be filled, I did go to the Book section of Meijer's. I looked at the pictures in the POS. Boy, JB was sure a cute kid. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Happy HOAP here" Posted by shana on 17:19:06 3/24/2000 ...and I got off the phone with my mother not an hour ago. I struck a deal: You don't buy the Ram book and I will have amazon send you ST's on the day it's released. Deal accepted. :-) Just called my little local bookshop - nopey nope, they didn't order it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "from canada" Posted by canadiana on 17:18:33 3/24/2000 can't even get it at the library! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "I screwed up" Posted by lecarl on 17:25:26 3/24/2000 I was writing my little parody of PR assuming everyone had read the POS! Now, I have to explain that I don't really write that way! Or think that way! However, I feel the POS was worth three times the price I paid and I'll tell you why--if we thought we had a ton of ammo from the ransom note, just think how much more there is in a whole POS? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "DOI" Posted by Aurora on 18:12:28 3/24/2000 Don't waste your money on fairy tales by wasting money on DOI. Save it for the Thomas book. Let the truth be told !!! I am sure he will have a best seller on his hands because he knows facts from fiction! I also bought PMPT. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Aurora ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 95. "Yes, Aurora!" Posted by Jellyjaws on 18:32:09 3/26/2000 I read the first two chapters of DOI as posted on another site. The chapters were insulting in an awful way! It was "Memories of Christmas" as if none of the rest of us had families, trees, stockings, Churches, great photo albums and the warmest of thoughts for times past. ODD people, these Ramsey's...EMPTY...PROGRAMMED...REHEARSED. As I said on another thread, we have a couple of personality disorders here. "Mask of Sanity"! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "No but..." Posted by MsPlum on 18:06:14 3/24/2000 I am planning a visit to my local Books A Million so that I can sit and read it in their Joe Mug coffee shop. Have ordered Steve Thomas's book from Amazon. Any other suggested reading I should do?? Ms. Plum [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "pybird, you're welcome" Posted by lecarl on 17:55:40 3/24/2000 I just thought of this--JR says the reason they went on CNN in the first place was because FW insisted they get out there & let people see how much they were suffering and THEN, the first thing JR says in response to the question, "why did you want to talk to CNN?" JR says, "well, we learned when our other daughter died that people would come forward to us..." This sounded so weird to me at the time--and BTW, WHY is FW in such a high state of anxiety to FIX everything as fast as he can? Something smells worse that Susan Stine's trash here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "That was a parody of Patsy, lecarl?" Posted by Hyacinth on 17:55:15 3/24/2000 I can see it now . . . sorry you had to explain but so glad you did . . . the "it's all someone else's fault" defense . . . LOL! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "well" Posted by Kelly on 17:50:59 3/24/2000 I bought it, couldn't help myself. It took me a couple of days to admit this to my husband, my best friend, my brother and that's all I've told. They all shamed me but want to read it when I'm done. I'm proud of all you strong people who've stuck to your morals and not bought it. They shouldn't of written it, it's only gonna bring them down further. John talks about the important stuff, Patsy goes on and on about the superficial or irrevelant. I will say that I probably have most of the books about JonBenet and this is the only one that has made me laugh out loud, or laugh at all for that matter. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "99.99% Not Guilty" Posted by JR on 17:58:06 3/24/2000 I didn't buy it, it was given to me as a gift by well meaning friends who knew I read everything on the case I could find. I was brought up to believe it would be rude to say no to a gift. Since I do have it, I read and re-read it and mark it up in any manner I see fit and I am not one who usualy desecrates a book. The .01% of me that is guilty is by not strongly telling my friends I had no intention of buying it in a very LOUD voice...sorry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL JR ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "BTW" Posted by Kelly on 17:54:33 3/24/2000 I couldn't of been more embarrassed as I was purchasing it than if I had been purchasing a tube of something for vaginal dryness. It was so humiliating. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Does it count" Posted by starfish on 17:59:55 3/24/2000 if you buy it from a USED book store? Does the money belong to the Ramseys? I thought of going up to a nice used bookstore up in Longmont, but you know, I'm not sure ANYONE from that town would even read it to make it GET there. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Kelly" Posted by lecarl on 17:59:01 3/24/2000 I told my grandaughter she would get the same thing JBR got if she told a living soul! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "lecarl..." Posted by pybird on 18:04:37 3/24/2000 that's funny. LOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "JR" Posted by lecarl on 18:08:18 3/24/2000 I know who you are! You are Patsy Ramsey--unless, of course, you're kidding. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 81. "Lecarl" Posted by JR on 17:47:10 3/25/2000 LOL! Lecarl. NOPE...sorry just have so well meaning friends and a birthday coming in a few weeks. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "HOAP, too...." Posted by LabMom on 18:27:25 3/24/2000 Not only do I not want to contribute to the Ramsey's legal-freakin'-defense, but it's better for my health this way! Every time I see their lips flapping, or read more of the mouth garbage they've been spewing, I can feel my blood pressure going up and steam coming out of my ears!! I haven't been able to resist watching them on TV lately, though...it's the first chance I've had to check them out. None of the 3 stations around here has carried any of their other 'appearances'. (Wow - just thinking about their rude, snotty attitudes on the Today show makes me boil....I think I'll go rip out some more weeds.... : ) ) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Heavens, NO" Posted by Seashell on 18:20:43 3/24/2000 I haven't even been tempted. When I read fiction, I like it to be GOOD fiction. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "They are on Hardball" Posted by lecarl on 18:16:40 3/24/2000 right after this commercial--while we wait I want to tell those of you who haven't read the POS that the dog we know as Jacque was really Jacque #2. The first one--the one JBR loved & who knew his name, how to get outside & where the food dish was--got sick & PR took it back to exchange it for another one. Unfortunately, the second dog was smaller, but she decided to say he's lost weight while at the vet's. JBR looked at the dog & knew it wasn't her but STILL PR tried to convince her. One of the things PR wanted CAP to pick up was the My Twinn doll that JBR has absolutely no use for--you'd think she'd want something JBR cared about, wouldn't you? Or is that a concept she doesn't understand? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "I agonized over this--" Posted by fiddler on 18:35:35 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:35:35, 3/24/2000 how to read the book without enriching the Ramseys' attorneys? Should I wait, and wait, and wait for it to be at the library? Maybe--but the list is 22 people long. Should I go to Barnes and Noble and sit there for six hours, reading it? And make sure to smear chocolate and coffee all over the pages, so no one else would buy that copy? UUmmmmm--no, that would hurt B & N, as well. Should I shoplift it? No, same reason--besides, I've never shoplifted anything before and see no reason the Ramseys should make me stoop so low. Then, as if from heaven, two coupons appeared in the mail--frequent reader rewards from Brentanos! Enough to get the book for free! And then, as my son says, I should return it, get the purchase price back, and send that on to Darnay Hoffmann. Not too bad a deal, huh? luvsflowers--of course they still maintain it was a kidnapping. That staging took a lot of ingenuity, damn it! Why does no one appreciate a fine performance when they see one? Edited to add: I think for Patsy, the pictures and the My Twinn doll ARE JonBenet Ramsey. The actual little girl, well, she was really getting to be kind of a pain... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Won't Buy It" Posted by straykat2 on 19:00:02 3/24/2000 Someone would have to pay me to buy DOI. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "True HOAP " Posted by Denver on 18:51:03 3/24/2000 I did not and will not buy the book. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "I bought" Posted by Pope38 on 19:03:24 3/24/2000 the book and I am not sorry I did. There were stories in it that gave a true picture of Patsy. One example was her HOT PINK INSIDES! It seems the good doctor Buef told her to take Benadryl at night to sleep. She started taking them the night JB died and was worried that her insides were going to be PINK. This from a former cancer patient? I would think she would take better care of herself. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Well" Posted by China on 19:32:07 3/24/2000 I bought the book because I admire their lawyers :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "I haven't bought it...yet" Posted by LurkerXIV on 19:48:49 3/24/2000 I have always felt that it is important to know the enemy, if you are going to be a true adversary. I could probably rationalize that I should read this book just to get into the minds of the killers. In the meantime, I'll just be a parasite and hang on the words of lecarl, Lacey, Ruth and China who will portion out the good stuff, little by little. Keep it coming, lecarl-- I appreciate all the excerpts you've been sharing-- that " touched by an angel" stuff was a doozy! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "DOI... that POS..." Posted by Fra on 20:00:30 3/24/2000 I would not, could not, did not buy that book. And never will. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "No DOI!" Posted by Country Girl on 19:59:02 3/24/2000 I read TRUE CRIME books; not I Want To Tell You books. Nope, nada, zip. Besides, I trust the forum to glean any interesting information for discussion purposes. I am so glad they wrote the book and are doing the tour. Just keep digging themselves deeper and deeper and deeper. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "No POS in my bedroom..." Posted by Fra on 20:23:00 3/24/2000 And tonight is Friday and I'm alone on an island. I'm going to read in bed "Asperger's Syndrome" by Tony Attwood since I think I may have this slightly and just never knew it. I live in a world of books and words and stay isolated to a great degree. I do, however, have fine social skills whereas the Asperger kids are uncoordinated and geeky and do odd things, so there the similarity ends. And Lurker 14, if you come to the Spring Fling, I'll prod you to let fly a hoot and a holler at table, as I heard you once did. So please show up. Fra [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Fra & Countrygirl" Posted by lecarl on 20:04:07 3/24/2000 Look, we managed to get three & a half years of material out of a two & a half page note. The book is over 400 pages. I can't do this by myself! Besides, if we all get on it, I have a feeling the R's won't be around long enough to spend your $12.99. Think about it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "Bought the book" Posted by momo on 20:39:44 3/24/2000 and it keeps putting me to sleep. I've got all the books and this one is a yawner.Had it a week and only half thru.You have to admit that it shows just how psychotic Pats is. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "I don't want to buy the book o..." Posted by CaringMom on 22:17:40 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:17:40, 3/24/2000 But it would be interesting to know how she described herself..just to see all the differences. Like how she really is..vs..How she believes everyone sees her. She has this image thing going and real people can see right through it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "Lecarl, come to the Spring Fling..." Posted by Fra on 20:29:56 3/24/2000 Please come and make us all laugh, oh ple-e-e-a-a-s-e...! Yeah, we did, we got 3 years out of PATSY and the ransom note and Whig White and Marcie's "and I have fat knees," and the Smurf scarfing hot dogs, sure we did. It's all so beee-zarro. Come to the Spring Fling, Lecarl. What will it take to get you there? And Cassie, you too!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Fra" Posted by lecarl on 20:32:23 3/24/2000 when is it? & where is it? & why are they all on that other coast? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "HOAP springs eternal here>>>" Posted by ayelean on 21:47:40 3/24/2000 But I love going to book stores to see how it is selling. I do notice as adults with children walk by the book just flies into their basket. Yeah right lecarl. I really appreciate the posters who are keeping us informed where the book stands in ratings at Amazon and B&N. I have no time to go to their sites to check them out. These threads have me consumed. The posters that did buy the PILE have an obligation to inform the rest of us, and they are doing a great job. I posted on another thread that after 5 days on the market, our Sam's Club only sold 3 books. I am on the Space Coast (FL). [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "When they're indicted..." Posted by mary99 on 22:06:37 3/24/2000 I will buy the book when the net they wove with their lies snares them for once and for all. I will buy the book when it is a piece of evidence used in the indictment against them. And that day WILL come. I will buy their tacky book for the photos of JonBenet, not for the crap they wrote about themselves. I will buy the POS when TNP disassociates themselves from the murdering duo, when Lin Wood has to write court-ordered letters of apology to all the truth-seekers he threatened. Ruthee, Lacey, lecarl and those who did buy it are doing a fine job of keeping us informed on the Garrottes inner workings. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "No Way!" Posted by KimmyAnni on 21:58:09 3/24/2000 Nope, not me. I did not & will not buy the liars' book. But...I'm waiting on the Steve Thomas book! ***HOAP AND PROUD OF IT!!!*** Kim [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "Lecarl... Spring Fling..." Posted by Fra on 22:09:34 3/24/2000 Our gathering is on Sunday, April 2nd, at 11:00 at the Olde Mill Inn in northern New Jersey. Szundi, and CountryGirl and Cher and Ma Brady and Starry and FT and Shamrockpati and Ginja and who have I forgotten? And some spouses are coming... 13 so far. Contact Szundi for more specifics. Can you come? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Lecarl..." Posted by Fra on 22:11:12 3/24/2000 Also, ToppCat and his wife are coming. It should be a good time. And I've forgotten who else. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "Haven't bought it yet," Posted by lilac on 22:34:00 3/24/2000 but will admit that I desperately want to read it. So far, our public library has not obtained it. I have two gift certificates from Barnes and Noble, but I still have a feeling that even though the gift certificates were purchased and given to me prior to the book's release, some money somehow might go to "them." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "Fra" Posted by lecarl on 22:26:52 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:26:52, 3/24/2000 Grandaughter's birthday is on 2nd & I have a dr's appointment on 3rd--just routine, but I've already canceled & re-scheduled twice. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO COME! Do you think there will ever be one a little closer? My son is going to France for the entire month of June & I'll be free to do whatever... anyway, I'm not nearly as entertaining in person. I'm pretty quiet. But if you want to know what I look like, my son's little girl (she's three) saw a pic of an Eng. actress Judy Dench(sp) I've never seen her, but Hannah torn the pic out & carried it around with her until it fell apart. And once we were lying on the couch watching t.v. & a movie was advertised & she was in it. Hannah looked at me and said, "Is that you?" Persoanally, I think she is very old and unattractive, but maybe all middle aged women look alike to a three year old.. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "lecarl" Posted by pat on 22:18:20 3/24/2000 you are just so bad I can't believe it. I for one will not give them one cent. But, on the other hand, we should read it to look for clues. So, lecarl, you dear dear person,,,can I get your book when you are thru,,please, pretty please, with sugar on top,,,please, please, please,,,cmon, be a sport. He hehe [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "Lecarl Shohani... (have I spilled that right?)" Posted by Fra on 22:39:47 3/24/2000 Lecarl - I believe there's another gathering planned for this summer in Boulder. That should be fun as everyone would get to join Hunter in the hot tub while Lou Smit plays submarine. Oo-la-la !! Actually, I'm painfully shy in person, too, yet I feel I'd like to see my fellow posters, and I'm looking forward to that leap off the page into the Real World. Judy Dench is one of my favorite actresses. I believe she's been knighted or some such, she's so very grand. Cute scene of you and Hannah on the couch! We'll plan for Boulder then this summer, o-tay? Fra [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "Fra, I'll be there" Posted by lecarl on 22:55:43 3/24/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:55:43, 3/24/2000 I don't think I'm painfully shy, but I gave up trying to talk in a crowd when I was very young. My sister HAS TO have all the attention ALL the time and it's just not worth it. By the time she stops to breathe, I've forgotten what I was going to say. The internet was invented for me (Thanks, Al) because I've always thought it would be the perfect way to communicate with her. She talks, then I get to talk and so on...but she refuses to get her 3K computer plugged in. She just uses it for games, etc. I told her it's like buying an expensive RV & letting it sit in the driveway... I've never seen Judy Dench in anything. Kighted? Does that mean they have to call her, "sir?" edited to say, "Fra, did you ever see "Truely, Madly, Deeply?" I loved that movie--it's so funny! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "my granddaughter" Posted by lecarl on 22:39:37 3/24/2000 gets it next. Every time I put it down last week-end she picked it up and started reading it. She thought she was going to get to take it home with her on Sunday so I started reading slower & slower because I wasn't quite ready to give it up until I'd talked about it here. It's all marked and dog-earred, but sure, you can read it if you promise to pass it on. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "Yep." Posted by Holly on 22:57:26 3/24/2000 It's the only evidence in this case, I will ever actually own. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "Nope!" Posted by szundi on 23:08:52 3/24/2000 I only bought the paperback edition of PMPT and am waiting for ST's book. No POS for my library--at any price. BTW, the Spring Fling is in central NJ and we have 13 definites and 2 possibles. Anybody else shows up and you have to sit at the bar and just get to wave at us and take pictures, maybe. Fra--Are you coming on foot or by horseback like Lady Godiva? Heard tell you are coming in by private jet to Newark and then stretch limo to the restaurant. True? Just my style! szundi [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "Screw 'em" Posted by cairn on 01:46:58 3/25/2000 Yes, I agree with "know your enemy" but there's no way my conscience would allow me to contribute money to JBR's murders' defense. I am so rigid on this I won't even put in a request at the library (bookmobile) because I know that, if there's a demand now, it might induce the librarians to order extra copies. I thank the purchasers, readers, and posters for carrying the burden and satiating my curiosity. I'll read it a few months down the road. Judy Dench is a Dame of the British Empire... Dame Judy..nothing hereditary. She starred in "Mrs. Brown" and was nominated for an Oscar. Very good film. Fra, I love your situation. We are waaay out in the country. We load up on books for the winter and ignore most of the seasonal horrors because we're far away. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "Still H.O.A.P.ing" Posted by Sharon on 10:34:14 3/25/2000 Haven't bought and won't. (Much to my husband's amazement) Our largest Christian bookstore in the area is selling it, but a more local, small Christian bookstore isn't. I complimented them on their wise decision when I was in there yesterday. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "Pishy Shame! " Posted by Cassandra on 10:27:56 3/25/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 10:27:56, 3/25/2000 I bought it, made my comments in red, and it's on it's way to my sister, who will make her comments in blue. Her email to me after Katie Couric's first interview... "the blue, the blue..." The Patster's ensemble caused her real pain. LOL I emailed her Mame's comment about the blouse, "Hey, who shot the couch?" Waitress! Saucer of milk and 100 straws! If you must buy the book, share it! Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 75. "A Better Book:" Posted by sarah on 10:49:21 3/25/2000 I would rather read the parts of the manuscript that their various and ample attorneys censored. Now, THAT would be a book I would pay dearly for! Hello Enquirer, Vanity Fair, Geraldo,....break out your checkbook. Surely somebody has got that stuff stashed on disc somewhere. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 74. "I'm shameless" Posted by gaiabetsy on 10:43:53 3/25/2000 and bought the book the day it came out. When I couldn't find it and asked the clerk if they had copies, she asked me if I had reserved a copy. That really shocked me. This means there are others like me in my hometown! Shocker! I wish I'd asked the clerk how many copies were on reserve. Geez, one of you guys may be on this forum. Anyone from Oak Ridge, Tenneseee? I think this murder generates a lot of interest around here because Lockheed-Martin and Access Graphics are both here. This is a big DOE location, too. It's where the uranium was enriched for the A-Bombs and other bombs too. I'm not proud of those facts, however. Needless to say, this place is much like Boulder, so it makes an interesting comparison for me. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "Geez" Posted by Ruthee on 10:34:00 3/25/2000 I must change my story about buying the book. Actually the Ramseys sent me a free advanced copy because they admire me. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 76. "Never ever" Posted by kdubois2 on 11:26:09 3/25/2000 would i buy that POS. My fiance' and i went to costco the other day, i was busy buying chicken breasts and he came up to me and said "i have a surprise for you", behind his back he had the POS. I said never would i buy that! He was shocked! He said, " you are obsessed with the Ramsey case". When i was explaining why i wouldn't buy it, a lady overheard us, and she said "i wouldn't buy it either, it's all a bunch of lies". I said " honey lets get lobster tails instead". [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 79. "No DOI for me!" Posted by Ev on 11:46:51 3/25/2000 Nor will I even get it from the library (as I thought I would want to earlier). I haven't read PMPT either and now I don't need to, since I've heard enough about it. I would be interested in browing the pictures in the book and may stoop to that if I happen to see the book, but that's all. Right now I'm reading Mark Fuhrman's book about Martha Moxley. Someday someone will be dumpster diving, and instead of finding another big load of Oscars, there will be cartons and cartons of DOI (another type of load!). AND, they won't be rescued by anyone! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 77. "Gave-Up.." Posted by shadow on 11:36:42 3/25/2000 and bought the paperback PMPT after waiting on library list for many, many months here in Northern Virginia. I also thought Schiller's book was pretty "middle-of-the-road." IMO, "The Schill" has lost it over the past year, becoming (in his mind) the world's foremost expert on the JBR case. I ordered Steve Thomas' book months ago. Will not buy DOI; probably will read it to compare to PMPT and Thomas book. shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 78. "Also posted on the daily... sorry about that." Posted by Fra on 11:46:26 3/25/2000 Spring is here! Hello everyone! Szundi, I'm not actually flying into Newark on a PRIVATE plane -- Trump's Learjet 45 is always a noisy zoo of fawning poseurs and tag-alongs. Anent the stretch limo for my ground travel, I have to share the darn thing with Hillary Clinton, who'll be returning from Yale where she's pitching the virtues of her valve-free whoopee cushion. However, this "plan A" is not yet set in stone, as I may be in Manhattan by Friday of next week. I have to see how things fall. Thank you for staying in touch. Lecarl -- I'll look for "Truly, Madly, Deeply." If you found it hilarious, that's good enough recommendation for me. Cairn -- You're "way out in the country" -- where, may I ask? FT -- I'm trying to arrange a pickup at Newark so I won't have to inconvenience you. Unfortunately, my plans are still in flux; I wish that weren't so. I'll stay in touch, and thank you. Kdubois2 -- I hope you enjoyed those lobster tails. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 80. "ayelean" Posted by lecarl on 17:42:47 3/25/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:42:47, 3/25/2000 check out #33 & #38. I was just joking but JR seems to have disappeared off the radar. Fra, you'll love it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 83. "Lecarl, explain please..." Posted by Fra on 18:01:37 3/25/2000 I looked at #33 and #38, and after #38 there is a post from JR that is #81. Could you please 'splain your point? Did post #38 disappear while JR was responding, that is, when someone is responding to a post does that post temporarily disappear? I'm confused. Fra [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 82. "Lecarl" Posted by JR on 18:05:19 3/25/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:05:19, 3/25/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:04:31, 3/25/2000 Nope...not off the radar like a dummy was loading up a new ISP yesterday and hosed everything. Just got back on and did post above for you. Edited to say: Actualy, I was really out collecting beer cans because the house payment is due. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 85. "I Confess..." Posted by K777angel on 18:17:46 3/25/2000 I bought it. I wasn't going to, but decided when I saw it at Costco for about half the regular price that I'd give in. Besides, I realized that it is a very important piece of "evidence" as Holly calls it, to compare with their previous statements etc. Also it really gives you an interesting profile of each of them as it is in their own words - with little editing it appears. For instance, how many times does Patsy mention her wardrobe? And how "NO southern lady would be caught dead in white shoes after "such & such" time of year." Fall I think. Please. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 87. "I bet she wouldn't" Posted by lecarl on 18:21:25 3/25/2000 even have gone to JBR's funeral if she only had white shoes to wear! In fact, I think she says something like that in the book. She didn't feel like going, but once she got there she realized it was a memorial for JBR so she was glad they made her go! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 84. "Fra & JR" Posted by lecarl on 18:07:58 3/25/2000 Fra, I wrote a parody of Patsy's writing on # 8 on this thread. Then, JR wrote a post (99.99% pure) and I THOUGHT it was someone else parodying PR so I JOKINGLY said, "JR, I know who you are! You're Patsy Ramsey!" And that was the last I heard of JR until just now when she/he explained what happened to his/her computer! Hope that explains everything--I do tend to get a little paranoid, you know! JR--sorry if I offended you! It was just such a weird coincidence. And I was just kidding! There can't be two people in the world with the same disordered thought pattern, so I knew you were writing a parody!LOL! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 88. "Lecarl" Posted by JR on 19:19:14 3/25/2000 Moi...offended? Nope, actualy I thought it was funny, but then I don't tend to get offended easily. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 86. "the Mask" Posted by timmmmmm on 18:21:13 3/25/2000 C'mon, U think JR would belittle himself and post, the elitist squad would do no such thing... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 89. "not a matter of holding out" Posted by Matt on 19:32:06 3/25/2000 In the nashville interview, John Ramsey stated the profits from this book would go to help pay their legal bills first...FIRST. In numerous articles published just before, and after the book hit the market, the same information was made public. So this (FOR ME) is not a case of "holding out", and I don't give a damn if the book cost 5 cents, or 5 dollars, or 15 dollars. It's a moral issue, an issue of what is right and what is wrong to me. Therefore, as a champion for justice for JonBenet, it would be highly hypocritical for me to give the very people who I believe took her life a dollar of my money. That's almost forked tongue like, or two faced. I would feel as if I had betrayed JonBenet. I won't do it. When it becomes an issue of right and wrong, right wins out for me way ahead of curiosity. So I'll pass, and sleep well knowing I haven't helped those SOBs with any of my money. On the flip side of that coin, I ordered through my local bookstore a copy of Thomas' book for my mom, one for my grandfather, and one for myself. To each his own. Or, as my grandfather likes to say "whatever turns yo' crank." And helping killers out ain't my cup o' tea. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 90. "Matt" Posted by Hannah on 19:51:53 3/25/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:51:53, 3/25/2000 Excellent post, and I agree. I will not put one dime of my money in their pockets. Money comes to easy to them, and they have done nothing to deserve any of it, including the Star money, if any was received. These two people care about two things, money and their name, and not necessarily in that order. They don't even give a hoot about JonBenet's death either. In truth, watching them makes me ill, and I hope they realize that they are making fools of themselves. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 92. "Never," Posted by Chart on 22:02:45 3/25/2000 never had even the slightest desire to read anything written by them. I appreciate the reporting done by those who did buy, simply for sleuthing purposes. I agree with Matt that it would be wrong to help them with book sales. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 91. "gaiabetsy, wow--" Posted by fiddler on 21:01:55 3/25/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:01:55, 3/25/2000 my father worked in Oak Ridge when I was in kindergarten and first grade. (Probably accounts for the way I turned out). I still have the irradiated dime they gave every little kid as a memento. Only during the Cold War, right??? And do they still display that irradiated fly, the size of a large terrier? For those who are unfamiliar with Oak Ridge, none of this is made up. Fra---Try it and you may, I say. reporter--where in Colorado do you live? I'm in central Denver...across the street from Congress Park. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 93. "I would buy it" Posted by starfish on 00:36:40 3/26/2000 with one of my Christmas gift certificates (which is pretty slimy ofme) and then, for the price of third class postage, send it on to someone, who could then do the same -- in the end, the post office would profit the most. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 94. "Definitely not buying it...." Posted by LurkerXIV on 17:18:18 3/26/2000 ...Matt Causey's post gave me a twinge of conscience! I took the $17.95 I had set aside for it and went and bought a singing Barney for my grandson instead!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 96. "NEV the hell ER" Posted by ZOKE on 18:41:46 3/26/2000 EVER will I purchase that book of lies. Own all the others. I am so sick of seeing them on TV. They don't even get it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE