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Did Ya Know?, starry, 03:54:03, 3/31/2001 photo, starry, 05:14:58, 3/31/2001, (#1) I don't like that, Watching you, 05:53:57, 3/31/2001, (#2) that forced smile, mary99, 06:06:24, 3/31/2001, (#3) Okay, I'm, Watching you, 06:10:51, 3/31/2001, (#4) Watching You, JR, 11:39:19, 3/31/2001, (#9) Some of those pictures are AWFUL, Cassandra, 08:01:10, 3/31/2001, (#6) Dear WY, Tricia, 08:01:04, 3/31/2001, (#5) I don't like it , Holly, 08:04:10, 3/31/2001, (#7) Yea,, gaiabetsy, 09:09:22, 3/31/2001, (#8) HI WY, starry, 12:58:32, 3/31/2001, (#11) Starry, JR, 12:59:49, 3/31/2001, (#12) has anyone seen this picture before?, mary99, 12:55:57, 3/31/2001, (#10) That's what I mean, Mary99, starry, 13:04:31, 3/31/2001, (#13) starry, mary99, 14:49:57, 3/31/2001, (#20) Starry, mary99, 13:11:37, 3/31/2001, (#14) Lord..., rose, 13:47:07, 3/31/2001, (#15) another picture I haven't, starry, 13:50:45, 3/31/2001, (#16) Starry, JR, 14:03:16, 3/31/2001, (#18) JR, starry, 13:14:58, 4/01/2001, (#46) Starry, JR, 13:40:58, 4/01/2001, (#47) Yuk, Watching you, 13:54:44, 3/31/2001, (#17) starry, Greenleaf, 14:37:09, 3/31/2001, (#19) Colonel Mom Parker & Pelvis, Edie Pratt, 15:24:38, 3/31/2001, (#21) EdieP (ha ha, is that like EDP?), janphi, 16:26:11, 3/31/2001, (#24) Janphi, JR, 19:53:02, 3/31/2001, (#37) photographer, Edie Pratt, 16:36:07, 3/31/2001, (#26) Edie, JR, 19:54:13, 3/31/2001, (#38) Edie, GL and Rose, starry, 15:55:00, 3/31/2001, (#22) where are my manners?, Edie Pratt, 16:16:12, 3/31/2001, (#23) edie,, LurkerXIV, 17:49:33, 3/31/2001, (#29) Edie, , starry, 16:27:10, 3/31/2001, (#25) Mary99, that swimsuit picture......, sds, 16:36:27, 3/31/2001, (#27) uh sds, Tricia, 17:22:23, 3/31/2001, (#28) With each and every picture, v_p, 18:38:21, 3/31/2001, (#31) Just have to tell you, Watching you, 18:34:22, 3/31/2001, (#30) WY....., Pedro, 18:39:10, 3/31/2001, (#32) WY, Britt, 19:56:46, 3/31/2001, (#39) Lurker..., Dunvegan, 18:45:40, 3/31/2001, (#34) Pedro, Watching you, 18:45:21, 3/31/2001, (#33) outtakes, mary99, 20:10:32, 3/31/2001, (#42) maybe she didn't read, Edie Pratt, 19:48:18, 3/31/2001, (#35) JonBenet could write her name..., Dunvegan, 19:51:54, 3/31/2001, (#36) breaks my heart....., rose, 20:20:41, 3/31/2001, (#44) yuk, freebird, 20:18:36, 3/31/2001, (#43) Dun!, Edie Pratt, 20:05:30, 3/31/2001, (#41) Burke on-line, Jessa Ash, 10:44:08, 4/01/2001, (#45) Most K age kids, JR, 19:59:27, 3/31/2001, (#40) ................................................................... "Did Ya Know?" Posted by starry on 03:54:03 3/31/2001 Here I am again, finding obscure JonBenét pages that I have never seen before and probably most of you haven't either... First one:http://wer4luv.com/index.html Now get this..... A webring! Can you believe it? About time. Enjoy: http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=jonbenet&list huggs, starry PS. I've got a whole list of webpages to check out after the outage. Who knows what I might find? Maybe a webpage by the huntress himself! lolol [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "photo" Posted by starry on 05:14:58 3/31/2001 I've never seen this picture of her before, have you? hmmmmmmmmm....... http://wer4luv.com/images/blackwhiteswim.jpg links from this page: http://wer4luv.com/propics.htm [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "I don't like that" Posted by Watching you on 05:53:57 3/31/2001 picture. It gives me the creeps. What's wrong with her teeth? I don't like the pose with that prop. Something strange about that picture. Hi Starry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "that forced smile" Posted by mary99 on 06:06:24 3/31/2001 looks more like a grimace. I think this was from her 'very first' photo shoot. Notice the hair color is distinctly brown but JonBenet looks very tanned. Guess the sun was selective until she went suddenly blonde. (Remember that ad that went, "suddenly, it's heavenly..."? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Okay, I'm" Posted by Watching you on 06:10:51 3/31/2001 going to say it. what the hell is that prop she's hugging? I don't usually see things in pictures that others sometimes see - like a vacant stare or a certain sadness in the eyes, and I am not quick to jump on something and say - oh yeah, that's kinky. But this time, I'm going to say what is bothering me a whole lot - that picture is suggestive - that picture almost looks pornographic to me. This is the very first time I can honestly say I saw something really off in one of JBR's pictures. It would have been a cold day in hell when my little girls would have been posed like that for a picture. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Watching You" Posted by JR on 11:39:19 3/31/2001 I made the same type of statements when this site first went up. I was told I had a dirty mind by a number of people btu one thing I noticed this time through - this site use to have 3 pages of photos - it now has 2. The photo I found most offensive as I recall had JonBenet posed much as she is in the one showing her standing in her swimsuit with her left leg posed forward. There was a similar picture as well initially where her swim suit really gaped at the crotch. I made a comment that I could understand that if the suit was a size or 2 too large but the suit seems to fit everywhere else. Boy, did I get blasted! There was also another one posed on the blow up beach toy where the same thing was what initially caught your eye. But you are right - these were totally "suggestive" to me as well. They really irked me when I first saw thema and they irk me now. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Some of those pictures are AWFUL" Posted by Cassandra on 08:01:10 3/31/2001 Must be her Marilyn Monroe period. Yikes! Those sexy costumes and poses! Doesn't look like any six year old I ever knew, thank God! WAY too worldly to suit me. Hope Steve Thomas uses these pictures as evidence. Can't imagine a jury looking kindly on any parent who condones this stuff. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Dear WY" Posted by Tricia on 08:01:04 3/31/2001 I believe that is a blow up dolphin or killer whale. If you click on starry's other photo link you can see a color picture of a different pose but with the same prop. After looking at the link starry provided I am more convinced than ever that Patsy is a twisted sick woman. Check out the one at the bottom right. The one where JonBenet is wearing some sort of crown. She looks so unhappy. Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "I don't like it " Posted by Holly on 08:04:10 3/31/2001 either. It looks like she might be wearing, uh, dentures. Weird. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Yea," Posted by gaiabetsy on 09:09:22 3/31/2001 and according to Patsy all this pageant stuff and picture posing was "just a very small part of JB's life". You know, just a coupla weekends once in awhile. And, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH JONBENET LOVED IT. JUST LOOK AT THOSE PIX. Doesn't she look happy? Ha...... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "HI WY" Posted by starry on 12:58:32 3/31/2001 Oh yeah, just a few sunday afternoons. "That child" spent more time at a photographer's studio than I do at work during outages! And that's saying something! I don't like that picture of her, either, Holly. Those teeth do look unnatural, don't they? Perhaps that's why I had never seen it before. Patsy only wanted flattering pictures of JonBenét out there. Which brings me to the question of how the website owner got a hold of this unflattering picture. Anyhow, as I said, I'm always on the lookout for new webpages (to me and hopefully, I'll be able to bring something new to the forum) and I've got a whole list of links I want to check out. JR, I don't see the picture with her swim suit gaping. Where? Can you direct me? Sorry, I should have posted this link with the links to all of the pages of photos. There are still three links. Mea Culpa. http://wer4luv.com/maingallery.htm [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Starry" Posted by JR on 12:59:49 3/31/2001 Sorry - I thought I put in my message that these particular phots have been removed - the site orignaly had 3 pages of photos. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "has anyone seen this picture before?" Posted by mary99 on 13:08:06 3/31/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:08:06, 3/31/2001 I don't know if this is a rare picture of JBR in a parade or from the PMPT movie: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/rememberthechild Edited to add: JR, is this the picture you were referring to? http://wer4luv.com/images/swimsuit2.jpg The expression on her face looks either drugged or (god forbid!) drunk. Oh well, 'tis nothing, I'm sure... Also, it may be my imagination, but it looks like the very revealing shot of her crotch has been retouched with a darker blue cutout super-imposed over both the toy and her leg area. Hmmmm. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "That's what I mean, Mary99" Posted by starry on 13:04:31 3/31/2001 Some of these pictures are rare and for the most part, unpublicized pictures. So who, what, how, when and why is publishing them? They are found at the same website.... http://wer4luv.com/ with bwareclowns as the webowner, I believe. You can send bwareclowns an instant message: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/rememberthechild Just click on the name and an instant message screen will come up. gotta run. bbl. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "starry" Posted by mary99 on 14:49:57 3/31/2001 The poster Savannah and her (virtual?) mom, bwareclowns, are apparently the owners of the wer4luv.com site and the yahoo rememberthechild club. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Starry" Posted by mary99 on 13:11:37 3/31/2001 Yes, I noticed on that site there was also a shot of her in the white feathered outfit where her pose was not quite as polished as in the other pictures I've seen. The club/forum owner has many sites. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Lord..." Posted by rose on 13:47:07 3/31/2001 Have you ever seen a daughter look more like her Mom? She is a perfect little doll. What a shame that she was denied life to blossom into a wonderful person she had the protential to be. How sad to look at her and realize she is gone for no reason except a sick person acted out and killed her. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "another picture I haven't" Posted by starry on 13:50:45 3/31/2001 seen before. This one is called "marilyn".http://wer4luv.com/images/marilyn.jpg [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Starry" Posted by JR on 15:03:21 3/31/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:03:21, 3/31/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:13:55, 3/31/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:06:14, 3/31/2001 Do you remember the words to the 60's song LI'L RED RIDING HOOD (Ronald Blackwell) as sung by Sam The Sham and the Pharoahs? http://www.robert-kruse.com/samudio/pages/lyric-lilred.html Posting a link to them in case we aren't suppose to paste form the site but the words are also below: LI'L RED RIDING HOOD (Ronald Blackwell) Owoooooooo! Who's that I see walkin' in these woods? Why, it's Little Red Riding Hood. Hey there Little Red Riding Hood, You sure are looking good. You're everything a big bad wolf could want. Listen to me. Little Red Riding Hood I don't think little big girls should Go walking in these spooky old woods alone. Owoooooooo! What big eyes you have, The kind of eyes that drive wolves mad. So just to see that you don't get chased I think I ought to walk with you for a ways. What full lips you have. They're sure to lure someone bad. So until you get to grandma's place I think you ought to walk with me and be safe. I'm gonna keep my sheep suit on Until I'm sure that you've been shown That I can be trusted walking with you alone. Owoooooooo! Little Red Riding Hood I'd like to hold you if I could But you might think I'm a big bad wolf so I won't. Owoooooooo! What a big heart I have-the better to love you with. Little Red Riding Hood Even bad wolves can be good. I'll try to be satisfied just to walk close by your side. Maybe you'll see things my way before we get to grandma's place. Little Red Riding Hood You sure are looking good You're everything that a big bad wolf could want. Owoooooooo! I mean baaaaaa! Baaa? Much has been made of this child's story in the past and the suggestiveness it contains. One has to wonder why a person who came up through the 60's would put their child in that particular costume. IMO of course. Edited to add: Wonder if these pictures will disappear now. Don't know how to add a picture but there is one at the site listed by Starry under professional photos page two entitled Little Red Riding Hood. Edited twice: The second edit was to add common themes/analysis: Owoooooooo! Who's that I see walkin' in these woods? Why, it's Little Red Riding Hood. Hey there Little Red Riding Hood, (JonBenet had a Red Riding Hood costume.) You sure are looking good. (She was forced to be "on-stage" much of the time as one can see by her extensive portfolio and even "posed" family shots.) You're everything a big bad wolf could want. (JonBenet was gorgeous. A pedophile would not have needed all the "enhancements" to be attracted to her IMO.) Listen to me. Little Red Riding Hood (JonBenet) I don't think little big girls should (JonBenet was frequently dressed like an adult (little big girl.) Go walking in these spooky old woods alone. (The basement?) Owoooooooo! What big eyes you have, (JonBenet has gorgeous eyes which were "made-up" and some have said she wre contacts to enhance the color though I am not sure this has been proven, we have been told photos were enhanced, however.) The kind of eyes that drive wolves mad. (Men make much of "bedroom eyes, come hither looks et al.) So just to see that you don't get chased (Little girls in fact all children should feel and be safe should they not? Just who normaly makes children feel safe?) I think I ought to walk with you for a ways. What full lips you have. (Again, JonBenet was frequently made-made up with mascara, lipstick etc.) They're sure to lure someone bad. (There sure did.) So until you get to grandma's place (Nedra?) I think you ought to walk with me and be safe. (JonBenet who did you walk with 12/25/96?) I'm gonna keep my sheep suit on (Even wolfs have to hide in sheeps clothing when others are around.) Until I'm sure that you've been shown (Shown what? Bedtime stories, hugs and so forth?) That I can be trusted walking with you alone. (Unfortunately, someone shouldn't have been trusted. But who?) Owoooooooo! Little Red Riding Hood I'd like to hold you if I could (Who dreams of holding JonBenet?) But you might think I'm a big bad wolf so I won't. (Obviously someone did!) Owoooooooo! What a big heart I have-the better to love you with. (We would like to believe this of every human would we not?) Little Red Riding Hood Even bad wolves can be good. (They have to be when others are around at least.) I'll try to be satisfied just to walk close by your side. (Obviously someone wasn't satisfied. JonBenet was molested and it is percieved at least to have been on more than one occasion.) Maybe you'll see things my way before we get to grandma's place. (And if you don't... I'll garrote and kill you!?!) Little Red Riding Hood You sure are looking good You're everything that a big bad wolf could want. (The big bad wolf got JonBenet in the end. Let's hope s/he is caught and there is justice for Jonbenet SOON!) Owoooooooo! I mean baaaaaa! Baaa? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "JR" Posted by starry on 13:14:58 4/01/2001 Those lyrics are so appropriate. Why did they want their beautiful, innocent daughter to be so seductive? That's the $118,000 question. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Starry" Posted by JR on 13:40:58 4/01/2001 Oh no...that's at least the $1,000,000 question IMO! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Yuk" Posted by Watching you on 13:54:44 3/31/2001 that is disgusting. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "starry" Posted by Greenleaf on 14:37:09 3/31/2001 I cannot imagine any mother, in her right mind, posing her child in such a provocative manner. That picture speaks volumes as to the abnormal mind-set of one crazy mom. Who, pray tell, was she trying to impress? That "come hither" look on JB's little face didn't get there all by itself. Go figure. GL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Colonel Mom Parker & Pelvis" Posted by Edie Pratt on 15:24:38 3/31/2001 Talk about a pr campaign! And,what a difference a year makes. The sun was verrrry selective when it came to JonBenet. There's a marked time when JB went from mousy to magnificent, and she sure didn't do her own make-over. What was Patsy trying to do? Was this the Texas time? The picture of a dark haired, monkey grinning JB looks like she was 3 1/2 or 4. Is that when they went to Texas? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "EdieP (ha ha, is that like EDP?)" Posted by janphi on 16:26:11 3/31/2001 That is exactly what I was wondering--if the half-closed eyelid thing started sometime in the summer of 1995, after (or during) the Texas trip. Someone asked the other day if there was a pageant camp in TX that Patsy took JBR to. I hadn't heard about anything like that, so I tried to check it out and ran into a stone wall. Of course, we're known for our cheerleading camps down "heah" but I wasn't sure about pageant training. What I DID find, however, was that there is such a thing as a "talent camp" in relation to pageants. The term itself, which took me aback at first because of the "TC" implication of there possibly being one named "SB" something, is actually mostly used in the UK and Australia for various sports camps, mostly soccer. We usually just say "soccer camp" or "baseball camp" or "science camp" or whatever--but they lump them together and call them all "talent camps" and they are just for the creme de la creme. I couldn't find any other reference to the pageant "talent camp" other than this one weird one. It was called "Rocky Mountain Talent Camp" but it was in Hollywood, CA. No phone listing, just a couple references to some people's names. No corporate registration in the state of CA. I'd like to know a little more about it and may sleuth it when I get time, which I don't have right now. Anyhoo, sure would like to know where that sultry look came from and approximately when. I am not too good at telling from JBR's photos exactly what age she is. sarah's website is so good at showing the progression from tomboy to femme fatale, but I can't pinpoint summer, 1995, precisely. Anybody else? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Janphi" Posted by JR on 19:53:02 3/31/2001 Yes, there is a pagent camp and pagents though the gilrs DO NOT resemble JonBenet costume or makeup wise except this one drill team which I have mentioned before. the little girls immediately washed the makeup off which was very encouraging! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "photographer" Posted by Edie Pratt on 16:36:07 3/31/2001 shouldn't we be looking at the photographer that posed her? I've worked with photographers, and alot of them tell you how to look or pose. Sometimes the light is shown directly in your eyes, so that when the picture's snapped, the light makes your eyes go sleepy. The old pros would have their subjects stare wide eyed, but the pics turned out sultry. Or, it could be JB was a natural, not unheard of. Like that porn star, Traci Lords, nobody "taught" her, she just "knew". Of course, the people in her life saw it, recognized it, and exploited it, because she was 14 when she took the industry by storm. Wonder which industry Patsy was aiming for. I bet JB was every bit as talented as any other baby selling grape juice, she could have become famous alot easier by doing commercials. Why the long road thru pageantville? Who gets anywhere with THAT under their belt? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "Edie" Posted by JR on 19:54:13 3/31/2001 Miss City, State and America. Sad but true. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Edie, GL and Rose" Posted by starry on 15:55:00 3/31/2001 I have to agree. JonBenét's sexy looks were the product of her prodding, pushing mother, grandmother and Aunt. Here's another weird page: http://jonnieb.homestead.com/Quotes.html Who ever is the owner of this jonnieb website has some inside info. I've never seen this picture of her handprint before, have you guys? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "where are my manners?" Posted by Edie Pratt on 16:16:12 3/31/2001 THANK YOU STARRY! I got so enthralled, forgot to give you a big up:-) Those drawings of JB's get me. Who's cat was "Dain"? And, she could write Dain and By Jonbenet and be polit, etc., not exactly the way Fat Cat describes it. No Starry, I'd never seen her little hand, but that's just sad, isn't it? I think all of us have a palm in cement or finger painting or ashtray somewhere, that marks our childhood forever. JonBenet's hand will never grow beyond that memento, and that is so damn sad. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "edie," Posted by LurkerXIV on 17:49:33 3/31/2001 I think the teacher had just read "Danny the Dinosaur" to the class, and the kids drew their own version of Danny. JonBenet spelled pretty well for a kindergartner. And yes, Mr. Um Um Um Er Er Er lied about her not being able to read the tags on the Christmas presents. Now, what was the purpose of that particular lie, I wonder. Or does he just lie for the hell of it? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Edie, " Posted by starry on 16:27:10 3/31/2001 I think Dain really meant "done" in kidspeak. Yes, her little handprint breaks my heart. I bought Hollie a kit to do the Buddha's hand. Just seems such a wonderful thing to have. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Mary99, that swimsuit picture......" Posted by sds on 16:36:27 3/31/2001 is very telling. Not only does it look like her crotch has been retouched, but it looks like she has been masturbating against the plastic toy. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "uh sds" Posted by Tricia on 17:22:23 3/31/2001 I really didn't see that at all. Yes the pictures are disturbing for many reasons but I think that might be stretching it a bit. JMHO Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "With each and every picture" Posted by v_p on 18:38:21 3/31/2001 I hate Patsy Ramsey a little bit more. JonBenet must have been exhausted from all the primping and prodding. And the pressure to have to live up to being a beauty queen at 6 years old. That's child abuse if you ask me. To see those innocent drawings breaks my heart. It doesn't seem all that long ago my own daughter was drawing pictures and writing things I could barely interpret. These bastards need to fry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Just have to tell you" Posted by Watching you on 18:34:22 3/31/2001 my daughter is on duty tonight, and she was just here on her dinner hour, looking over my shoulder, of course. I showed her the pictures of JonBenet. Want to know what her comment was? She said, "What the hell is that?" She also said it was sick - that that little girl looked like a slut and her mother ought to be shot. What can I say? I raised her, ya know. Ummm, she also said it looked to her as if someone wanted it to look like she was doing something kinky with the prop. A comnpletely fresh opinion - daughter does not keep up with this case. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "WY....." Posted by Pedro on 18:39:10 3/31/2001 ....I agree with your daughter. Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "WY" Posted by Britt on 19:56:46 3/31/2001 I agree with your daughter, too. So much for there being 'nothing in Patsy's background' to suggest anything abnormal (or abusive) about her as a mother. JonBenet was a living, breathing symptom of Patsy's pathology... a pathology that, IMO, is at the core of this crime. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Lurker..." Posted by Dunvegan on 18:45:40 3/31/2001 ...why DID Um-er-ah-hmm AKA John Ramsey say in DOI that JonBenet couldn't read...when her artwork showed her able to write out letters...and the name "JonBenét" just plain LOOKS different from "John" or "Daddy" or "Patsy" or "Mommy" or "Burke"...I'd think JBR would have been used to looking for that telling "accent acute" over the "e" in her name, by then. I could read at her age. And, boy did I like to look things up. Although I doube it, I do not dismiss the possibility that JonBenet was the one to look up "incest" in the dictionary. That would explain John going WAY out of his way to shoehorn in an awkward statement about JonBenet's alleged inability to read. LOVE to run the "Could JonBenet read?" question by Linda Hoffman-Pugh... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Pedro" Posted by Watching you on 18:45:21 3/31/2001 so do I. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "outtakes" Posted by mary99 on 20:10:32 3/31/2001 Well, according to PMPT the professional photographer who took the modelling shots of JB (as distinguished from the portraits taken by Judith Phillips)was none other than Randy Simon, who sold his collection of JBR outtakes (under pressure apparently) after receiving a series of weird middle of the night phone calls--later he was found running nude and saying he didn't kill JB. Wonder who has those pics now (why have they never surfaced?) and if JR (unbeknownst to RS) was behind the buyback. If some of these are close to if not actually soft porn, were the others more blatantly sexual? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "maybe she didn't read" Posted by Edie Pratt on 19:48:18 3/31/2001 in JR's feeble brain. Maybe he didn't know one thing about this "batch" of kids. Staying at a distance could put things into another perspective, and you might feel like a virtual stranger. The last he heard, or, listened carefully, she couldn't read. But, no, that won't work. He said she took violin and French lessons. I think a certain amount of reading would be in order to last a session of French lessons, lol. He wouldn't be lying about those lessons, would he? Parish the thought, I know, but WHO was the violin teacher? French tutor? I don't care about WHY, by the way:-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "JonBenet could write her name..." Posted by Dunvegan on 19:53:01 3/31/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:53:01, 3/31/2001 ...she could READ her name. Edie: I've wondered about the "JonnieB.homestead.com" site before also...a lot of previously unseen pictures have shown up there. I've even enterained the notion of Burke possibly having a website that John and Patsy didn't know about.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "breaks my heart....." Posted by rose on 20:20:41 3/31/2001 Be nice, don't fight. She was a little girl who seemed to understand what hurting someones feeling was all about. She was perfect and good. Why would anyone want anything else from her, except to be a child and enjoy childhood things? I don't understand that mindset! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "yuk" Posted by freebird on 20:18:36 3/31/2001 I absolutely hate this pic, it brings to mind some kind of bondage with her bare feet and feet wrapped in cords. There is something 'naked' about being barefoot on a stage it feels to intimate and sensual if that makes sence. . . http://wer4luv.com/images/blackoutfit2.jpg [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Dun!" Posted by Edie Pratt on 20:05:30 3/31/2001 is that the one that's dedicated to the family gardener? "Do roses know their thorns hurt?" I doubt Burke ventures into the world of JonBenet online, and don't think he's the type to crusade. He hasn't asked his parents, or anyone else, whatever happened to JonBenet, so a website is probably best left to those with an interest. Beep beep beep... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Burke on-line" Posted by Jessa Ash on 10:44:08 4/01/2001 I doubt Burke ventures into the world of JonBenet online, and don't think he's the type to crusade. He hasn't asked his parents, or anyone else, whatever happened to JonBenet, so a website is probably best left to those with an interest. Beep beep beep... Do you *really* believe that Burke has NEVER asked questions about JB? If that is true, then it is certainly because he already knows what happened. I can get behind the thought of BR maintaining a website and monitoring JBR activity on the web. He may have been jealous of his sister, but I'm sure he loved her and in some way wants to see justice as much as we at JW. He may not have (unmonitored)internet access at home, but I'm sure he has plenty of access and training at his high dollar private school. At my son's school, they begin computer training in K5 and are maintaining their own sites by 5th grade. A few minutes out of lunch each day spent in the computer lab is not unheard of..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Most K age kids" Posted by JR on 19:59:27 3/31/2001 Can read to some extent - at least family names or know enough the D is daddy, M is mommy and B is Burke though they do frequently transpose b and d. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]