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Influenced by ST's book?, Watching you, 18:19:38, 4/16/2001 In fact, I'll go, Watching you, 18:27:10, 4/16/2001, (#1) WY, JR, 18:31:42, 4/16/2001, (#3) Great couple o'threads WY, ayelean, 18:35:23, 4/16/2001, (#4) WY, Tricia, 18:31:24, 4/16/2001, (#2) Well WY, Gemini, 18:36:16, 4/16/2001, (#5) Haha, Gem, Watching you, 18:43:29, 4/16/2001, (#6) And, if the Ramseys, Watching you, 18:45:58, 4/16/2001, (#7) oh hell WY, Gemini, 18:52:24, 4/16/2001, (#8) Which is why, Aunt Gem, Watching you, 18:56:38, 4/16/2001, (#9) And, blast it all, Gem, Watching you, 18:59:19, 4/16/2001, (#10) lol WY, Gemini, 19:55:45, 4/16/2001, (#11) for what it matters, Longhorn, 20:48:20, 4/16/2001, (#13) ST book, South, 20:20:42, 4/16/2001, (#12) Forgive me for saying so, Gemini, FT, 21:08:33, 4/16/2001, (#14) WY, Book didn't, Mandarin, 21:41:49, 4/16/2001, (#16) FT, Gemini, 21:37:57, 4/16/2001, (#15) Huh? Ongoing .., Mandarin, 23:34:29, 4/16/2001, (#17) Before and After ITRI, MrsBrady, 03:49:17, 4/17/2001, (#18) No Hard Sell, sarah, 06:23:45, 4/17/2001, (#19) But Thomas, gaiabetsy, 06:51:42, 4/17/2001, (#20) D.O.I., Sabrina, 07:19:00, 4/17/2001, (#21) Sabrina Said It!, RiverRat, 08:40:41, 4/17/2001, (#22) I agree with Sabrina, Bets, 09:39:24, 4/17/2001, (#23) Read..., shadow, 10:02:43, 4/17/2001, (#24) Excellent post, Maw, Cassandra, 10:09:06, 4/17/2001, (#25) Ms. Brady...., rose, 11:13:19, 4/17/2001, (#26) Influence..., Ginja, 12:14:33, 4/17/2001, (#28) influenced by ST's book?, Edie Pratt, 12:00:12, 4/17/2001, (#27) Prior Sexual Abuse, JR, 13:00:09, 4/17/2001, (#29) ................................................................... "Influenced by ST's book?" Posted by Watching you on 18:19:38 4/16/2001 Maybe the other thread will float away into oblivion. So, what's the consensus? Tell the truth, no messing around. Don't tell what you think someone else might be thinking. Did Steve Thomas's book influence you as to the guilt (or innocence) of the Ramseys? I will start. It most certainly, definitely did not. The only thing ST's book did was to strengthen my suspicions that the DA's office were incompetent, arrogant, and obstructed justice. I still don't know who killed JBR> [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "In fact, I'll go" Posted by Watching you on 18:27:10 4/16/2001 one step further. The Ramsey's own book, DOI, had a lot to do with my feelings they know a lot more than they are telling. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "WY" Posted by JR on 18:31:42 4/16/2001 I agree with bth statements you made. Additionally, every time the R's open their mouths they further loosen my tentative toe grip on the fence. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Great couple o'threads WY" Posted by ayelean on 18:35:23 4/16/2001 Before I read ST's book I thought Patsy Ramsey killed JB. After I read it I thought Patsy Ramsey killed JB. Before I read ST's book I thought the case was mishandled primarily by the DA but also the police. After I read it I was apalled by the obstruction of Justice by the DA and amazed at how little the mishandling by the police contributed to the lack of resolution of this case. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "WY" Posted by Tricia on 18:31:24 4/16/2001 I just posted on your other thread so I shall be brief. When the Rams went on CNN before sitting down to a formal interview (formal being the key word here) with the police that is when I knew they were involved some how some way. The Ramseys don't need Steve Thomas or anybody else to make them appear guilty. The Ramseys do a great job of showing thier guilt all by themselves. I had never heard of Steve Thomas when I decided the Ramseys were guilty. Geraldo is where I received most of my information in the beginning. Don't see team Ramsey going after Geraldo now do we? Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Well WY" Posted by Gemini on 18:36:16 4/16/2001 since I was the one that caused you grief in the other thread, I may as well clarify some of my opinions about this. First, I don't think Thomas' book influenced any of the public who already believed the Ramseys were guilty, except that it certainly must have helped bolster those opinions. Did it sway anyone who believed the Ramseys innocent ... or any of the fence sitters? Maybe ... especially, I'd think, with general public who had not kept up with the case ... perhaps, even forum lurkies who had not made up their minds. On my own part, I disagree with Thomas' theory and find the book filled with "I was right ... everybody else was wrong" pseudo-macho stuff - but, there IS info in the book I had not heard before ... at least not stated with confidence from a (supposedly) knowledgeable source. Since my opinion HAS actually shifted a little during the past year, it's very possible the book had something to do with that. Not sure. Personally, I wouldn't want to see forum input used to help either side. That might put smoke and shadows around something someone would prefer to hide. My greatest fear is that lawyer tricks and antics will take attention away from the solid information that needs to be aired. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Haha, Gem" Posted by Watching you on 18:43:29 4/16/2001 that's exactly what I asked you not to do - make statements about what "others" might think or who they may have been influenced. I understand very well what you are saying. I understood it on the other thread. I might agree, somewhat, except for one thing. The forums have been saturated with Ramsey guilt postings for going on five years and long before ST wrote his book. I suppose there is a wealth of information either side can use if they are of a mind to do so. One thread in the thousands that have been posted, even if it is an outstanding thread, haha, isn't going to make or break either case. As I said, all that information was written in a book which is in the possession of Wood. I understand you think he might find interesting some of the comments made in response, but I don't think many, if any, of these points are specific to the charges in the Ramseys' lawsuits. I could be wrong. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "And, if the Ramseys" Posted by Watching you on 18:45:58 4/16/2001 hadn't stuck themselves right out there on national TV and renewed their public appearances every three months or so, the public would not have cared about ST's book. Patsy who? ST didn't publicize the Ramseys. The Ramseys did. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "oh hell WY" Posted by Gemini on 18:52:24 4/16/2001 I know that and you know that (about the many Ramsey guilty posts and discussions), but I'm very doubtful a jury will be selected from folks who know that. We tend to have a few illusions of representing the "general public", when, in fact, we do not. What forum discussion has influenced, etc., won't come up I don't think unless we become the target of law suits (please no). So, my thought was ... how much easier would it be for Wood to lift that thread than to conduct polls or try to find random posts on the huge bulk of threads that makes up the forum input? I just don't want the pot stirred by the attorneys to obliterate the truth. We know they're going to try, but let's NOT help them. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Which is why, Aunt Gem" Posted by Watching you on 18:56:38 4/16/2001 I started this thread. If what I suspect is true, then Petro will have his own little thread to present to a jury, yes? What's that you say? You have a neat little thread to prove some obscure point. Why lookee here, I have one too. And, guess what? blah blah blah [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "And, blast it all, Gem" Posted by Watching you on 18:59:19 4/16/2001 I'm trying to get the H out of here. That may be a neat little thread, but I don't think it portrays what you says it does. It points to Hunter and, ah hell, I'm sick of saying it. If that thread is all Wood could get to bolster his case, he's in sad shape. That's all. Now, I'm out of here. Carrion. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "lol WY" Posted by Gemini on 19:55:45 4/16/2001 nope, no prob with this one at all. Get outta here ya say? Yeah, I'm doing laundry and just meant to post one l'il thing. Have at it and see ya next time : ). [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "for what it matters" Posted by Longhorn on 20:50:57 4/16/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 20:50:57, 4/16/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 20:49:45, 4/16/2001 which is very little, I have read neither book.I have read excerpts and many reviews. I have followed the case via the forums to varying degrees throughout these many years, newspapers on and offline , through the network news magazines as well as "reputable" mags(lol). What has formed my greatest foundation of something rotten in Denmark with the Ramseys(I still do not claim to know who did what when)are the Ramseys themselves. It's simply what I have seen with my own eyes or heard with my own ears. Is that evidence? Quite simply no. But, for me, gathered in totality with the known facts(don't go there pal, as those seem to be in dispute every time we turn around)and the Ramsey's own actions and words, I'm satisfied that they know what happened and have no desire for this case to be solved. Question is, why would anyone innocent feel that way? therefore, something is rotten in Atlanta. And it is my opinion that this will turn out to be the case about these books as well. A picture is worth a thousand words. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "ST book" Posted by South on 20:20:42 4/16/2001 I thought John did it before I read the book. I still think he did. The book made me so mad I could only read it a chapter at a time. The DA's and their cohorts killed JB again with their obstructions. Even though I think Steve got the perp wrong, I think he was commmitted to JB and did the best he could. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL South ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Forgive me for saying so, Gemini" Posted by FT on 21:08:33 4/16/2001 But you often get a notion in your head that doesn't conform to the facts at hand. I counted the number of posters who responded to Watching You's first thread. Including you, there were 17. Some (including you) responded more than once, but were only counted once. If we were to make the huge assumption that all 17 of those posters (including you) were influenced by that thread alone to believe that the Ramseys are guilty, what possible impact would that have in the Steve Thomas trial? I can hear Lin Wood now ... "Your Honor, it has come to our attention that Mr. Thomas's book may have influenced 17 internet posters as to the Ramseys' guilt in the death of their daughter, JonBenet. That represents 0.000006% of the total U.S. population of approximately 285 million people. "Your Honor, you can well imagine how this groundswell of public influence has irreparably damaged the reputation of my clients, John and Patsy Ramsey. The prosecution in this case beseeches you to rule in favor of my clients and order an immediate investigation into the grave miscarriage of justice perpetrated by the Justice Watch poster known as Watching You. "Your Honor, I rest my case." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "WY, Book didn't" Posted by Mandarin on 21:41:49 4/16/2001 The ST book did not influence me in the slightest. For years, it has been my contention that this was a horrible 'rage induced' accident between Mom and Daughter over enuresis. I knew all about the probs with DA's office, Ram lawyers, and the BPD from a) talking heads on CNN, Tabs, PMPT, Late Night Shows, Ramsey A&E Croc and their many, many appearances on television, not to mention their book tour and of course DOI. When I read ST book, I thought there would be TONS more information, but I was disappointed actually that it pretty much followed the line of every thing that had been discussed over the past 4+ years. In fact, I used to get the name Thomas mixed up with Smit and for the longest time, didn't know who was with the BPD and who was with the DA's office. The first time I saw Thomas was when he was on TV with the Rams and I thought, Omigawd, what a nice honest face this man has. The way he was able to look both Patsy and John directly in the eyes, as he spoke, really impressed me. I was fascinated when I watched this show because it was obvious that Patsy was trying to manipulate him and yet John, was seething with anger, however disguised. He held up well and I'm not sure anyone had done that on TV up to that point. I was genuinely impressed with seeing him the first time. Anyhooooooo the book didn't influence me one iota, but I have to say that it was an easy read, compared to the other books. I never read Wecht's book and in that book, he goes all out on John - why aren't the Rams upset with that book or PMPT or the movie or any of the other books. Is this what Wood's case is all about? All I can say is Good Luck Woody. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "FT" Posted by Gemini on 21:39:17 4/16/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:39:17, 4/16/2001 I see what you mean but think you missed my point. It was not a question of being influenced by THE THREAD, but mostly that the book (the subject of the law suit) was being quoted in an inflammatory way with a number of responses that agreed with Thomas' POV (if not his theory). Therefore, it might be presumed by strangers reading that thread that the book influenced the posters' POV. Basically, it boils down to the same as FW using threads quoting the newspaper article and blasting HIM. It's certainly up to you whether or not to agree. I have no desire to try to convince you. I'd just hate to feed Wood (or Petrocelli for that matter) anything to use for muddying the waters. (edited to make a small change for claification) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Huh? Ongoing .." Posted by Mandarin on 23:34:29 4/16/2001 Someone mentioned an 'ongoing investigation' ... Huh? Give me a break - the investigation in the Boulder DA's office is dead in the water - always has been from the get go, or so they thought, until the Rams started firing off mega law suits for mega millions. What are they suing for: 100 million? 200 million, 300 million?, 500 million+ (when you combine all the network lawsuits, etc.) Ah, Greed .... that is what the Ramsey's heed! Their life appears to centred on greed, certainly not need. They are the true impostors of the 21st century and everyone knows it now, probably even their teenage son, who must most definitely be throughly embarassed, distraught and depressed with the daily litigious hell that are brining him up in. Such thoughtless people with aboslutely no idea of 'parenting skills' - just their own mercenary needs. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Before and After ITRI" Posted by MrsBrady on 03:49:17 4/17/2001 Before I read Thomas' book I firmly believed there was no intruder. After I read it I now STRONGLY believe there is no intruder. Before, I wasn't sure whether it was John or Patsy. Now I still am not sure which one is more guilty, but I believe both do not act like innocent people and are harboring secret knowledge. Before ITRI I was sure that there was stronger evidence than had been revealed in any tabloid, talk show or PMPT for that matter that would seal the BPD case. I was POSITIVE that there was some kind of "smoking gun". I had a child-like, innocent confidence that the AUTHORITIES had this case all wrapped up in a red ribbon. After (sheesh) I was so freekin' P.O.ed at all the prima donnas in the BPD (Steve included) that they concentrated, IMHO, almost totally on people and not on the evidence, slowing the process down to a snail's pace. Before ITRI and including devoring both the Thomas resignation letter and the diatribes from Fleet and Priscilla I believed that most of the bluster aimed at the DA's office was CYA on the part of the cops frustrated that their crime scene was corrupted and looking for a scapegoat. After I am astonished that there has been no investigation of the investigation particularly aimed at corruption within the Boulder County DA's office. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "No Hard Sell" Posted by sarah on 06:23:45 4/17/2001 I was always a John-did-It girl from the git-go; I was looking for something in Thomas' book to convince me otherwise, which I didn't find. I echo and agree with Madame Brady that Thomas' accounting of the Boulder 'Prosecutors', namely Hoffstrom and Hunter, was enlightening, but frustrating to read. I am constantly amazed that there seems to be no one in all of Colorado who will take the Boulder DAs to task for blatant obstruction of justice. I never had one shred of faith in the Gov. ever. So no, Thomas' book didn't convince me, or even sway me to the side of primary guilt by Patsy ALONE. I appreciate Thomas and the work he has done. But as long as he gives John a pass, his theory will never hold water. Imho, one of dem started it, and the other one aided and abeted. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "But Thomas" Posted by gaiabetsy on 06:51:42 4/17/2001 said, when he gave a q/a session on one of the forums, the theory about Patsy in his book was just one of many theories, and he acknowledged the possibility one of the other theories discussed on the forums could be the correct one. I don't remember where I read it, but I know I did. I'm positive. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "D.O.I." Posted by Sabrina on 07:19:00 4/17/2001 I don't think the Thomas book influenced me a bit. D.O.I.did. It convinced me that the Ramseys know alot more than they have admitted to and are most likely guilty. Their obsession with appearances, AND money,money,money is much more evident than finding the killer. How many references did they make to all the money that they spent on "investigators" and how little they had left.And the throwbacks to religious themes are only to gain sympathy from religious believers.It was so sickening I could only read a few pages at a time. All this hostility directed to the tabs and so little to the "real killer" shimes through loud and clear. Something else which I found interesting was the little sarcastic remarks towards the Whites and others that the Ramseys feel betrayed them. Most interesting was John's reference to Kim Ballard as "overweight". Aside from the fact that they supposedly did not have cable to view these shows, I find it more than tacky to say this. I saw the show she appeared on and I distinctly recall the looks and size of Kim Ballard. She was much slimmer than Patsy. I would say she resembled Jenny Jones in facial features and build. It is this type of behavior on the part of the Ramsys that I find dispicable. So maybe the Ramseys should instead sue their ghost writers for making them look guilty? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Sabrina Said It!" Posted by RiverRat on 08:40:41 4/17/2001 You have got to read their book if you haven't! The Ramseys are the only ones who influence how I feel about their behaviour. Thank God for people like Steve "Silence is Acceptance" Thomas. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "I agree with Sabrina" Posted by Bets on 09:39:24 4/17/2001 Steve Thomas' book did not influence my decision on who killed JonBenet. It did, however, more than open my eyes to the shameful actions of Alex Hunter and his minions. And, like Sabrina, I believe the Ramseys own book hurt them more than any other written text on this case. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Read..." Posted by shadow on 10:02:43 4/17/2001 PMPT, ST, and the Ramsey books, and the only thing they confirmed for me was the BPD "screw-ups," and the "strange" actions of the DA's Office and the Ramseys. The first time I saw Susan Smith on TV, I said "she's lying." When I saw the Ramseys on CNN, I said "they're lying." I was right with Susan Smith, and (regardless of what any of these books have said) I have no doubt I'm right about the Ramseys. After reading all of these books, I still have no idea who killed JBR or why... shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Excellent post, Maw" Posted by Cassandra on 10:09:06 4/17/2001 Well put that both have guilty knowlege. Amen. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Ms. Brady...." Posted by rose on 11:13:19 4/17/2001 You had a good example of the Ramseys telling little white lies on your web page. They have said they do not have cable TV, but you showed a picture of them being interviewed in their Living room with a TV in the back ground with the picture on it showing CNN live. Would it be possible to post the picture for us here? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Influence..." Posted by Ginja on 12:14:33 4/17/2001 Did Steve's book influence me? No. What it did was support everything I've seen, read and heard for almost 5 years...and then some. Actually, I did learn a little more. I learned that everyone who has any kind of ties to the Ramseys, from ex-wives to children to friends, have put up blockades and refused to talk to police. Every single one of them have hired attorneys. If they didn't hire them, John Ramsey hired them for them! That speaks volumes. John's first family is terribly creepy. The son calls his stepmother flashy, knows it was an inside job, and figures the perp is someone associated with that flashy stepmom. Melinda refuses to talk...about anything! Instead, she bursts into tears and says her father is a wonderful man, then puts her head on the table and cries like a baby. Lucinda gets free representation, paid for by John. Married and divorced twice, her first husband is still paying her mortgage and bills. A woman scorned, forced into a divorce by her husband's indiscretions...and she can't remember the name of the woman who broke up her marriage and took a father away from her kids? Then there's that episode where the cops were across the street from her house interviewing neighbors, and she and JAR stood in her driveway staring the cops down. What are all these people hiding? Then there's the police investigation into Beth's past and possible incest. Hello? The woman was an adult, and dead. How are you supposed to find whether she her father abused her? Might that be a reason Melinda refuses to talk and just bursts into tears every time someone mentions her father's name? Stuart Long. Who silenced him? How much did that cost John? This couple talk about all the money they've spent on legal expenses. That's true. But I'm willing to bet they've spent just as much if not more on keeping their families and friends quiet! Did Thomas' book influence me? Not really. It just filled in all the blanks. Not to mention exposing the DA's staff for what it really is! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "influenced by ST's book?" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:00:12 4/17/2001 Hardyharhar, that's a knee slapper. Like alot of you pointed out, CNN, ONE DAY AFTER THE FUNERAL, did it for me...all the rest is cake. They hung themselves long before I knew who Steve Thomas was, and I bet the average joe still doesn't know him by name. I was disappointed that Steve put the book out when he did. Although I giggled about the graveyard scene, where the police set up a fake tombstone and the little boy went over to examine it, I was surprised that he was sharing info about a "covert operation". I mean, the games not over yet, or shouldn't be, so why not hold the phone a bit longer? It would still be an excellent book had it come out after a trial, regardless of the REAL PERP, no? Afterall, ST himself says it's just HIS hypothesis, he never said everyone had to agree. The truth is the truth, but can't it wait? LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Prior Sexual Abuse" Posted by JR on 13:00:09 4/17/2001 Ginja you wrote: Then there's the police investigation into Beth's past and possible incest. Hello? The woman was an adult, and dead. How are you supposed to find whether she her father abused her? From research I have done in the past, I seem to recall there is sometimes "scaring" in a woman who has been sexually abused at a young age. Maybe they were thinking of checking for that? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE List of Forums The opinions expressed are those of the author of those opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Web Host, Webmaster or any Justice Watch member. The opinions and analysis included herein are based from sources believed to be reliable and in good faith but no representation or warranty, expressed or implied, is made as to their accuracy, completeness or correctness. Any copying, redistribution, or retransmission of any of the contents of this service without the express written consent of Justice Watch is expressly prohibited. Users of this site are subject to our House Rules. 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