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Where Was Fleet White ?, mary99, 01:52:56, 5/04/2001 Who, Watching you, 03:48:23, 5/04/2001, (#1) Hey Wy, Twitch, 04:08:45, 5/04/2001, (#2) Where is Sparky?, Twitch, 04:09:46, 5/04/2001, (#3) Nevermind..., Twitch, 04:10:32, 5/04/2001, (#4) Sorry Twitch, Watching you, 04:12:27, 5/04/2001, (#5) Who cares?, Grace, 04:40:17, 5/04/2001, (#6) Expressing my, Watching you, 04:42:10, 5/04/2001, (#7) candy cares, darby, 04:54:04, 5/04/2001, (#8) Darby, Watching you, 05:00:29, 5/04/2001, (#9) WY, darby, 05:10:05, 5/04/2001, (#11) Very interesting, Morgan, 05:09:51, 5/04/2001, (#10) It could, Holly, 05:37:00, 5/04/2001, (#13) Fleet White, Holly, 05:31:17, 5/04/2001, (#12) So, Morgan, 05:46:20, 5/04/2001, (#14) Morgan, Holly, 06:00:55, 5/04/2001, (#15) Bench Warrent, watchin', 06:02:03, 5/04/2001, (#16) I wonder, starry, 06:03:44, 5/04/2001, (#17) starry., Holly, 06:15:44, 5/04/2001, (#19) It's not, Morgan, 06:07:33, 5/04/2001, (#18) starry, watchin', 06:17:19, 5/04/2001, (#20) Which case, Morgan, 06:30:41, 5/04/2001, (#21) To me the question is, Holly, 06:32:16, 5/04/2001, (#22) BDC Article on Miller, mary99, 06:39:00, 5/04/2001, (#23) Thank You, starry, 06:43:55, 5/04/2001, (#24) I wish, starry, 06:46:01, 5/04/2001, (#25) When the Warrant Division, Holly, 06:56:23, 5/04/2001, (#27) That is, Morgan, 06:52:44, 5/04/2001, (#26) In general, Holly, 06:59:44, 5/04/2001, (#28) part of a pattern?, mary99, 07:10:51, 5/04/2001, (#29) I believe , v_p, 07:17:01, 5/04/2001, (#30) What information, Morgan, 07:26:31, 5/04/2001, (#31) This is weird, actually, darby, 08:04:51, 5/04/2001, (#33) court archive, mame, 08:02:08, 5/04/2001, (#32) bench warrant, mame, 08:06:01, 5/04/2001, (#34) Mame, mary99, 08:12:22, 5/04/2001, (#35) Hunter, fly, 08:47:52, 5/04/2001, (#37) Oh yes Mame, Msracoon, 08:43:07, 5/04/2001, (#36) fly, darby, 08:51:20, 5/04/2001, (#39) yes, mame, 08:49:44, 5/04/2001, (#38) thanks all, starry, 09:05:21, 5/04/2001, (#41) fly, mame, 09:02:32, 5/04/2001, (#40) Mame..., Pedro, 09:15:09, 5/04/2001, (#44) I wonder, too, if Pris, Morgan, 09:14:02, 5/04/2001, (#43) good one Morgan, mary99, 09:22:54, 5/04/2001, (#48) IMPORTANT!, Holly, 09:10:35, 5/04/2001, (#42) Holly, starry, 09:16:51, 5/04/2001, (#45) Must be, Watching you, 09:18:35, 5/04/2001, (#46) no good reason?, mame, 09:20:50, 5/04/2001, (#47) Sort of like, Watching you, 09:24:04, 5/04/2001, (#49) I don't think Fleet, 1000Sparks, 10:42:05, 5/04/2001, (#50) Hello?, mary99, 11:22:46, 5/04/2001, (#54) Mame and others, Nedthan Johns, 10:54:30, 5/04/2001, (#52) Ned, MrsBrady, 11:13:45, 5/04/2001, (#53) Mary did more time than the murderer., Cassandra, 10:54:29, 5/04/2001, (#51) Initially, I wasn't going to post here but..., JR, 13:52:53, 5/04/2001, (#55) JR... Who'd I accuse?, Cassandra, 16:02:11, 5/04/2001, (#63) Cassie, JR, 16:04:05, 5/04/2001, (#64) LOL JR, Cassandra, 16:46:32, 5/04/2001, (#65) JR, if you layed, Cassandra, 16:49:52, 5/04/2001, (#66) Cassie, JR, 16:58:02, 5/04/2001, (#67) JR, I'm glad , Florida, 14:00:53, 5/04/2001, (#56) mary99, FT, 14:27:59, 5/04/2001, (#57) mame, Scully, 15:17:57, 5/04/2001, (#58) O, I C, mary99, 15:22:36, 5/04/2001, (#59) Scully & mary99, fly, 15:28:02, 5/04/2001, (#62) Florida, JR, 15:26:08, 5/04/2001, (#61) You know what, Mary99, Watching you, 15:25:45, 5/04/2001, (#60) mind my own business?, mary99, 17:10:41, 5/04/2001, (#68) Watching, Watching you, 17:25:35, 5/04/2001, (#69) I just read the word hate above, Msracoon, 18:32:51, 5/04/2001, (#70) Excuse me?, v_p, 18:47:47, 5/04/2001, (#72) Is that the first time, Watching you, 18:42:06, 5/04/2001, (#71) I appreciate, Morgan, 20:31:20, 5/04/2001, (#73) Aha Morgan, Msracoon, 22:49:42, 5/04/2001, (#94) Morgan, Scully, 21:28:45, 5/04/2001, (#79) It's bedtime Scully, Morgan, 21:33:55, 5/04/2001, (#80) Morgans going fishing again. . . , freebird, 21:16:14, 5/04/2001, (#74) Gone... maybe, v_p, 21:25:33, 5/04/2001, (#78) freebird, Frank, 21:23:32, 5/04/2001, (#77) well, we now what, mary99, 21:23:18, 5/04/2001, (#76) And, Morgan, 21:22:06, 5/04/2001, (#75) good grief mary, v_p, 21:35:28, 5/04/2001, (#82) Mary99, Scully, 21:34:11, 5/04/2001, (#81) WY's own words, Scully, mary99, 21:40:54, 5/04/2001, (#83) Mary99, Scully, 21:52:13, 5/04/2001, (#87) hmmm..., Frank, 21:47:46, 5/04/2001, (#85) WY patrol= slackers, freebird, 21:55:41, 5/04/2001, (#89) obsessed , v_p, 21:44:50, 5/04/2001, (#84) hi "frank", v_p, 21:49:16, 5/04/2001, (#86) v_p, Frank, 21:53:25, 5/04/2001, (#88) scully, v_p, 22:16:30, 5/04/2001, (#90) Msracoon and Morgan, JR, 22:33:31, 5/04/2001, (#92) Careful, Scully, FT, 22:30:03, 5/04/2001, (#91) hahahahaha, v_p, 22:33:37, 5/04/2001, (#93) Cranky?, Watching you, 04:21:05, 5/05/2001, (#95) Clarification, FT, 08:17:31, 5/05/2001, (#96) FT, Watching you, 08:21:05, 5/05/2001, (#97) WY, Frank, 08:24:48, 5/05/2001, (#98) Okay, WY, FT, 08:34:11, 5/05/2001, (#99) My thread, FT, Watching you, 08:36:16, 5/05/2001, (#100) I guess, FT, 08:54:19, 5/05/2001, (#101) FT, Frank, 09:17:20, 5/05/2001, (#102) Has anyone seen a correction?, JR, 23:54:33, 5/05/2001, (#103) JR, darby, 00:17:16, 5/06/2001, (#104) Darby, JR, 01:06:34, 5/06/2001, (#105) ................................................................... "Where Was Fleet White ?" Posted by mary99 on 01:52:56 5/04/2001 Boulder lawyer accused of trying to help buy the Ramsey ransom note. Thomas Miller allegedly helped Craig Allen Lewis, an editor for the Globe tabloid newspaper, in an attempt to obtain a ransom note copy from handwriting expert Don Vacca, a former Denver police officer who was examining the note on behalf of JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. Miller was indicted by a grand jury. Miller's lawyer, Gary Lozow, argued Thursday that evidence presented to the grand jury was tainted and that the jury was influenced by prosecutorial misbehavior. District Judge Jane Tidball disagreed. Miller, charged with criminal extortion and commercial bribery, is to go on trial June 12. Also on Thursday, Tidball issued a citation and bench warrant for Fleet White, a former friend of the Ramseys. White was subpoenaed by Lozow to testify, but he didn't show up. http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,53%257E29707,00.html [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Who" Posted by Watching you on 03:48:23 5/04/2001 cares? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Hey Wy" Posted by Twitch on 04:08:45 5/04/2001 Whatcha doin up so early? Or is it late? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Where is Sparky?" Posted by Twitch on 04:09:46 5/04/2001 She hasn't been answering my emails. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Nevermind..." Posted by Twitch on 04:11:23 5/04/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 04:11:23, 5/04/2001 She was with Fleet White, wasn't she? That little debil...or is she a debil worshipper? Hummmm. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Sorry Twitch" Posted by Watching you on 04:12:27 5/04/2001 I was indisposed, haha. My handy dandy little messenger tells me Sparky is not online yet. My SIL us, though, probably getting ready to send me some more gross jokes via e-mail. Sparky, answer your e-mail, woman. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Who cares?" Posted by Grace on 04:40:17 5/04/2001 ME! This is a clearly labeled thread about a news story. PLEASE let the people who are interested discuss this. If you don't care, there's plenty more going on. Thanks, mary99 and Maw. I'm dying to know more. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Expressing my" Posted by Watching you on 04:43:15 5/04/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 04:43:15, 5/04/2001 opinion, Grace, I don't care where FW is. Edited to add: but it's okay if you care, Grace, don't worry, I won't be posting anymore on this thread. Nothing here I'm interested in. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "candy cares" Posted by darby on 04:54:04 5/04/2001 She put the same thing up over at CS. I don't know whether I will ultimately care or not, but it might be interesting to see what this is all about. Thanks, mary99. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Darby" Posted by Watching you on 05:00:29 5/04/2001 yes, it might be interesting to know why FW decided not to show up, although I probably can guess. Why do you care what Candy does on another forum, BTW? I don't. At any rate, it's not that I'm not curious why FW didn't show up; it's just that my reason for being curious and Mary99's reason are worlds apart, and the direction this thread takes will show that. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "WY" Posted by darby on 05:10:05 5/04/2001 You posed the question, "Who cares?" and I was just trying to say that since an undisputed champion of Fleet White cares enough about this to start a thread over it, I think a wide spectrum of people might just care about it. The reason I care about what candy says is that she brings a lot of factual information to the forums. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Very interesting" Posted by Morgan on 05:09:51 5/04/2001 What happens when there is a bench warrant? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "It could" Posted by Holly on 05:37:00 5/04/2001 be a pre-set banch warrant which has a bond amount. Depending on how pissed the judge was and a few other factors, the amount could be into the thousands. It amounts to being held by a judge on contempt of court. What a dope. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Fleet White" Posted by Holly on 05:43:28 5/04/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 05:43:28, 5/04/2001 thinks the rules are for everyone else. It's not the first time he has ignored an order given by a law enforcement/judicial officer. While everyone was calling Douglas Price and making sure Fleet didn't miss a forum post, they should have reminded him of his court date. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "So" Posted by Morgan on 05:46:20 5/04/2001 does this mean that he will be arrested? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Morgan" Posted by Holly on 06:00:55 5/04/2001 Probably. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Bench Warrent" Posted by watchin' on 06:03:40 5/04/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:03:40, 5/04/2001 If a person fails to appear in court when she has been properly ordered to do so, the judge is authorized to issue a warrant for that person's arrest. A warrant issued this way is called a bench warrant (from the bench fo the court). This usually means the person in contempt is to be picked up and immediately brought before the judge to answer why they did not show up in court. It is not uncommon for a person to be arrested and brought straight to the police station and held until the judge can hear their excuse. I doubt this will happen to FW..he seems to be privleged. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "I wonder" Posted by starry on 06:03:44 5/04/2001 If the newspapers and television reporters will cover it? I'd like to see his reaction to the arrest. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "starry." Posted by Holly on 06:15:44 5/04/2001 I don't think the DAILY CAMERA will cover the arrest in too much detail, but Carol McKinley might. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "It's not" Posted by Morgan on 06:07:33 5/04/2001 like Fleet hasn't been arrested before. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "starry" Posted by watchin' on 06:17:19 5/04/2001 Many law enforcement organizations cater to the wealthy. boulder is not that much different than most. In a county in Texas, there is an exclusive area, incorporated as a separate governing comunity. They have their own school district, their own fire department and EMS. However, they do not have their own police department so they contract the county sheriff's office for protection. There have been CRIMINAL warrants issued in that little community and oficers are told to call the subject on the phone and 'ask' them to come in. When they fail to do so, an unmarked unit (NO uniformed officers) is sent to 'accompany' them in for their arrest. Does this sound like we live in the land where there is 'liberty and justice for all'? Ha! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Which case" Posted by Morgan on 06:30:41 5/04/2001 figure holds the record for arrests since JB's murder? Will the reason Fleet gives for failure to obey his supoena be made public? Will it be part of the public record or will the public know only if a reporter is present when the judge questions him? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "To me the question is" Posted by Holly on 06:32:16 5/04/2001 WHY. Why was Fleet White called in the first place? What does he know about the events? Was he part of the alleged extortion? Did he witness something? Does he have an intimate working relationship with the GLOBE? Did he place calls, write a letter? There has to be a reason why he was summoned. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "BDC Article on Miller" Posted by mary99 on 06:39:00 5/04/2001 Man indicted on charges of trying to buy Ramsey ransom note Retired attorney is accused of offering $30,000 on behalf of a national tabloid August 21, 1999 GOLDEN - A Jefferson County grand jury on Friday indicted a retired lawyer on bribery charges, claiming he tried to buy a copy of the JonBenét Ramsey ransom note for $30,000 on behalf of a national tabloid. The tabloid, which was not named, allegedly sought to buy a fax copy of the note from Donald Vacca, a former Denver police officer asked by Ramsey attorneys to examine the note. Vacca is an expert in forensic documents. The journal reportedly approached Tom Miller to see if he could help. Vacca did not turn over the documents, but he informed the Ramsey family lawyers. "Tom had no part in any negotiations or discussions having anything to do with the note or anything else," said his attorney, Charles Leidner. "Somehow or other, he arranged an introduction between two people. I don't even know who." Leidner said Miller refused an invitation to testify before the grand jury. Leidner added that he and Miller met with a Jefferson County investigator two years ago to discuss an allegation of commercial bribery, a felony. "He told Tom and me, both, that Tom was not a target of any kind of criminal investigation," Leidner said. Patsy Ramsey reported finding the 21/2-page ransom note on the back stairs of the family's Boulder house the morning of Dec. 26, 1996, about seven hours before her 6-year-old daughter, JonBenét, was found in the basement, beaten, bound and strangled. No arrests have been made in the case. A Boulder County grand jury has been meeting irregularly on the case for nearly a year. Senior Deputy District Attorney Dennis Hall said Miller's indictment stemmed from an investigation of information brokers also facing charges in the case. A private detective and his wife are accused of supplying confidential information about the Ramsey murder investigation to tabloid newspapers. They will be arraigned Sept. 9. James Joseph Rapp, 39, and his wife, Regana Rapp, 29, were indicted on racketeering charges in June. The Rapps allegedly furnished the tabloids with private information about the victims of the Columbine High School shooting and used subterfuge to get everything from unlisted telephone numbers to bank records in the Ramsey case, the indictment found. "The focus of our investigation has moved from those who illegally obtain confidential information, to those who pay for and use the information," Hall said. Hall said the grand-jury investigation is continuing. ---------------------------------------------- http://www.bouldernews.com/extra/ramsey/1999/0821ramsey.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Thank You" Posted by starry on 06:43:55 5/04/2001 Holly and watchin.... I would be interested in seeing how FW handles it if it were to be covered in the news. watchin - that is sickening. Being raised in the more peaceful era of the late 50's and 60's, it's difficult to accept that the propaganda we were fed is BS, but all one has to do is to look at the Kennedy family to see where the precedents were set. Only now it's just anyone with a mil in the bank seems to get this privileged treatment. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "I wish" Posted by starry on 06:46:01 5/04/2001 Judith Phillips would make a comment. I'm pretty sure she reads here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "When the Warrant Division" Posted by Holly on 06:56:23 5/04/2001 of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department opens, I'll try to find out the warrant status. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "That is" Posted by Morgan on 06:52:44 5/04/2001 the big question, Holly. Tom Miller's lawyer has determined that Fleet White has information critical to the defense of his client. Why else would he be supoened to appear at a preliminary hearing? How often do character witnesses participate at a pre-trial hearing? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "In general" Posted by Holly on 06:59:44 5/04/2001 I think it would be unusual for a judge to issue from the bench, because a "character witness" failed to show at a pre-trial hearing. It wouldn't happen in my county. It could be that FW was a little more important. It might also mean that FW filed a motion relevant to the proceedings and then failed to appear. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "part of a pattern?" Posted by mary99 on 07:10:51 5/04/2001 Thanks for the info Holly and watchin'. My first thought on reading the BDC article was, "Where would Fleet figure into this alleged scheme?" Not surprised he didn't show up for court, it's typical of the 'veriphobia' (fear of making a sworn statement--TIC) he seems to exhibit. Maybe Lou Smit on TV unnerved him. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "I believe " Posted by v_p on 07:17:01 5/04/2001 Fleet White went to the BPD, of his own accord, and made a sworn statement concerning his libel suit not too long ago. gninnisp attuo lortnoc (GAL) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "What information" Posted by Morgan on 07:26:31 5/04/2001 do we have regarding Fleet White and the Ramsey GJ? I have a memory of FW not being cooperative with the legal system at that time. Does anyone have the particulars? If so, there is a pattern of FW believing himself to be above the law. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "This is weird, actually" Posted by darby on 08:04:51 5/04/2001 Thomas Miller allegedly helped Craig Lewis in an attempt to obtain a ransom note copy. Miller's lawyer, Gary Lozow subpoenaed White to testify, presumably on Thomas Miller's behalf. How could White's testimony help Miller? Scratching my head. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "court archive" Posted by mame on 08:02:08 5/04/2001 Register of Action -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The People of Colorado vs WHITE, FLEET RUSSELL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status: CLSD County Court, Boulder County Case Num: 1999T 001635 Div/Room: TM Type: Motor Vehicle Case File Date: 02/22/1999 Case Close Date: 05/13/1999 E-Filed: Appealed: N Judge or Magistrate Name KRISTINA B HANSSON Bar Number: 10932 Agency Agency: BLDR Boulder Police Dept Agency Case: Ticket/Summons Num: 3482 Arrest Num: Sentence Date: SCRT 05/13/1999 Parties Party Name Birthdate Gender Race Defendant 1 WHITE, FLEET RUSSELL 05/19/1949 M W Charges -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Count Status Statute No. Charge Description Class 1 Dismissed 42-4-1409(1) Operating Vehicle w/o Insurance MT1 Offense Date: From: 02/20/1999 To: -- Time: 11:00 PM BAC: 0 Arrest Date: -- Time: -- Ticket Num: 3482 Disposition: Dism by DA Date: 05/13/1999 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Count Status Statute No. Charge Description Class 2 Original Charge 42-4-608(1) Failure to use Turn Signal TIA Offense Date: From: 02/20/1999 To: -- Time: 11:00 PM BAC: 0 Arrest Date: -- Time: -- Ticket Num: 3482 Count Status Statute No. Charge Description Class 2 Main Charge 42-4-205(1) Vehicle Headlight Violations TIB Offense Date: From: 02/20/1999 To: -- Time: 11:00 PM BAC: 0 Arrest Date: -- Time: -- Ticket Num: 3482 Plea: Plea of Guilty Date: 05/13/1999 Disposition: Guilty Date: 05/13/1999 Sentence Date Sentence Description Status 05/13/1999 Sentence by Court Active Judge/Magistrate: EDWARD EVERETT KINGERY VICTIM ASSISTANCE FUND: $2.00 COURT COSTS: $18.00 TRAFFIC FINE: $15.00 Scheduled Events Date Time Event Description Room 04/13/1999 09:00 AM Arraignment F Judicial Officer: KRISTINA B HANSSON Status: PFTA-Party Failed to Appear 05/13/1999 09:00 AM Arraignment F Judicial Officer: EDWARD EVERETT KINGERY Status: HELD-Hearing Held 10/31/1999 07:00 AM Review Q Judicial Officer: CLERK OF COURT Status: VACT-Vacated Events Event Date Code Event Description 02/22/1999 SACF Summons and Complaint Filed 04/13/1999 WFTA Warrant- Failure to Appear 04/19/1999 RSWT Return of Service on Warrant 05/13/1999 CLAD Case Closed Bond Information Bond ID No. 1 Set Date: 04/13/1999 Set Amount: $200 Post Date: 04/19/1999 Post Amount: $200 Type: PR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "bench warrant" Posted by mame on 08:06:01 5/04/2001 as you recall, in sadie's situation, boulder takes it's bench warrants VERY seriously. most places bench warrants will only get you arrested if you're stopped for a traffic violation. ahhhhh, not so in boulder...at least in mame and sadie's case. they sent a team of boulder's finest to my home, handcuffed me, held the door shut and didn't allow me back in to talk with my kids. most remember the story... wonder if fleet will answer the door. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Mame" Posted by mary99 on 08:12:22 5/04/2001 Do you think they will even go to his house? Thanks for posting the MV info. I'm sure Pris forgot to renew his insurance, Fleet had a migraine headache, forgot to use his turn signal, and Fleet III broke the headlight playing croquet. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Hunter" Posted by fly on 08:47:52 5/04/2001 Isn't Miller singing the Hunter is a Bad Guy song? Perhaps FW was going to attest to Hunter's evil ways. mame - If FW doesn't have a BPD cop show up on his doorstep to serve the warrant and haul him off, it might be because he was just a witness in a case, whereas you were the defendant. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Oh yes Mame" Posted by Msracoon on 08:43:07 5/04/2001 I remember what happened to you! In fact, I think of it from time to time in the scheme of this entire case. Glory to God, you must be doing something right, or else the demon(s)- (more than one) would not waste time on you. The bottom line is simple, when one receives a subpoena, one has to SHOW UP. This is interesting. Thanks Mary and all. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "fly" Posted by darby on 08:51:20 5/04/2001 "Isn't Miller singing the Hunter is a Bad Guy song? Perhaps FW was going to attest to Hunter's evil ways." Makes sense. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "yes" Posted by mame on 08:49:44 5/04/2001 this is a serious issue. i'm told this is worse than mine as mine was a municipal bench warrant for failing to appear for dog barking. his is a county bench warrant...i'm told the difference is that a judge gets much more pissed. yes, they will probably go out and get ol' fleet today. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "thanks all" Posted by starry on 09:05:21 5/04/2001 just checking back to see if Holly was able to reach the court and had any info for us. I notice Fleet's birthday is coming up. 5/19. I wonder if Pris will be throwing him a birthday bash. At the Brown Derby. (do I have that right?) With the fournikators? I wonder if PR will be invited? Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? LOL, fly. If not,I'd just be happy if I could meet you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "fly" Posted by mame on 09:02:32 5/04/2001 a warrant is a warrant. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Mame..." Posted by Pedro on 09:15:09 5/04/2001 ...thanks for the info. Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "I wonder, too, if Pris" Posted by Morgan on 09:14:02 5/04/2001 does throw a birthday bash for hubby, she will hire another transvestite to entertain. Maybe not, since the guest of honor is not recovering from a life and death battle with ovarian cancer. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "good one Morgan" Posted by mary99 on 09:22:54 5/04/2001 Wonder who Priscilla would hire to entertain a man in Fleet's position today? LOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "IMPORTANT!" Posted by Holly on 09:10:35 5/04/2001 I just got off the phone with a criminal cases clerk. The bench warrant was issued and did set a bond on 5/3/01. It was then "stayed" or held until end of court. At the end of court, the bench warrant was VACATED. That means something was brought to the judge's attention regarding Fleet's failed appearance and she vacated her warrant at the end of the day. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Holly" Posted by starry on 09:16:51 5/04/2001 vacate? Does that mean that the judge rescinded the bench warrant? He recalled it? What does that imply? We probably need a new thread. I need to go hem my two pair of slacks that I bought a few weeks ago. I'd rather be here. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Must be" Posted by Watching you on 09:18:35 5/04/2001 they had no good reason to arrest him. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "no good reason?" Posted by mame on 09:20:50 5/04/2001 for failing to appear? well, he must have called his high priced (cough) attorney down in the springs and had him come up with a mighty fine reason for not appearing. like, he's above the law... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "Sort of like" Posted by Watching you on 09:24:04 5/04/2001 the Ramseys, ya think? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "I don't think Fleet" Posted by 1000Sparks on 10:42:05 5/04/2001 is above the law and that's not what he thinks either but he is taking advantage of the system and the money he has. What's money if you can't spend it? Like WY said, like the Ramseys. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Hello?" Posted by mary99 on 11:22:46 5/04/2001 Piling up a criminal record of failures to appear and arrest warrants (if not actual arrests) is not the way the rich and infamous like to live... thought the usual mode of milking the system was to get an atty to appear for you and avoid the embarrassment of having a record like this for what is basically -- no big deal. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Mame and others" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 10:54:30 5/04/2001 I think I missed something, so before I go back and read, what did Fleet do? Failure to appear where in court for what? When did this happen? I haven't watched this mornings Today show yet. This guy Fleet has bugged me from day one. I don't trust people who stay silent [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "Ned" Posted by MrsBrady on 11:13:45 5/04/2001 There was a motions hearing in Jefferson County court yesterday on the matter of Tom Miller and the ransom note. Miller's new attorney (some hotshot from Denver) supoenaed (sp?) everybody and their brother who was involved (no matter how tangentally) in the Ramsey case. It was like old home week according to the person I spoke to. The only person who did not show up was Fleet. The Judge asked the Defense attorney why he wasn't there and Miller's attorney said that he talked to him but Fleet told him where to put that subpoena (sp?). The judge was not amused and issued a bench warrant for him. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Mary did more time than the murderer." Posted by Cassandra on 10:54:29 5/04/2001 The BPD was fearless in pursuing Mame and Sadie. Too bad they don't pursue baby killers and molesters with the same zeal. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "Initially, I wasn't going to post here but..." Posted by JR on 13:52:53 5/04/2001 Mary99 Piling up a criminal record of failures to appear and arrest warrants (if not actual arrests) is not the way the rich and infamous like to live... Piling up Mary? 2 - one of which Holly tells us was "vacated" and the other - the one Mame posted - did you bother to read it? Look below a the "Status." 10/31/1999 07:00 AM Review Q Judicial Officer: CLERK OF COURT Status: VACT-Vacated Cassie Too bad they don't pursue baby killers and molesters with the same zeal. Classifying someone as a molester without evidence is slander and you could be sued for liable. Try re-reading Holly's post again: Something was brought to the judge's attention - you don't know what that something was. It could be anything from Fleet having no related information and he was able to satisfy Miller's attorney with proof and the subpoena was withdrawn to the perhaps the subpoena didn't get delivered or delivered in the required amount of time. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "JR... Who'd I accuse?" Posted by Cassandra on 16:02:11 5/04/2001 You think someone's liable to sue me for libel for THAT post? Which child molesting murderer in Colorado is going to take it personally? Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "Cassie" Posted by JR on 16:04:05 5/04/2001 Read the posts, read the title of the thread. The insinuation is clear IMO. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "LOL JR" Posted by Cassandra on 16:46:32 5/04/2001 Are you a lawyer, or do you just play one on tv? Do you work cheap? PLEASE save me! lol Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "JR, if you layed" Posted by Cassandra on 16:49:52 5/04/2001 all the child molesters in Colorado end to end, ...well you wouldn't want to! lol Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "Cassie" Posted by JR on 16:58:02 5/04/2001 That may be true but unless you have absolute proof they are child molesters then I wouldn't be putting up a sign saying "those who lay end to end here "child molesters." About the time you did that you might just discover someone who had decided ealier in the day to take a nap and one of "child molesters" thought thats where the line started. ;-\ [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "JR, I'm glad " Posted by Florida on 14:01:08 5/04/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:01:08, 5/04/2001 you answered it - MY sides were aching from laughing too much to type. Are these 3 srikes and you're out crimes?? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "mary99" Posted by FT on 14:27:59 5/04/2001 You said FW was "piling up a criminal record of failures to appear." According to the Boulder DA's office, failure to appear is not a crime. It does not create a criminal record. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "mame" Posted by Scully on 15:17:57 5/04/2001 Did you not make a conscious decision to ignore your summons to appear in court over your barking dog? By ignoring your summons do you somehow feel you are also above the law? Don't let this become a habit with you or you'll find yourself accumulating your own little pile of arrest warrants and failures to appear in court. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "O, I C" Posted by mary99 on 15:22:36 5/04/2001 So Fleet is a good guy for not coming into court on the correct date? Not once, but twice, and we don't even KNOW if this was his 'way' when he lived in CA. Can we call it 'jurisphobia'? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "Scully & mary99" Posted by fly on 15:28:02 5/04/2001 Scully - I think mame said at the time that she had forgotten about the hearing. mary99 - I don't see anybody saying FW is a good guy for having avoided court. What people are saying is that this doesn't make him quite the bad guy as you imply. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "Florida" Posted by JR on 15:26:08 5/04/2001 Guess so if your name is Fleet White - at least to some. Bet those same posters have never even gone over the speed limit if you ask them. ;-\ [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "You know what, Mary99" Posted by Watching you on 15:25:45 5/04/2001 it isn't any of your business. You sound like some busybody, tsk, tsk. Your hatred for Fleet White is palpable, it permeates every part of this forum. Mind your own business. FW's traffic record is none of your damn business. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "mind my own business?" Posted by mary99 on 17:10:41 5/04/2001 Who are you to tell me? ROFLOL! Good Lord, what are you doing here? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "Watching" Posted by Watching you on 17:25:35 5/04/2001 you [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "I just read the word hate above" Posted by Msracoon on 18:32:51 5/04/2001 Hate is word that is overly used and misused at the same time. For example, most of the time the person accusing another of "hating" someone has simply made that assumption because the play is just not going the way they would direct. Further, how can anyone know another's heart? There is ONLY ONE who is powerful enough to do that. IOW, because there are some that are SKEPTICAL (remember that word) of Mr. White, and have not placed him in the capacity of St. Fleet, then they are called haters. That is a very strong word, hate. The devil is raised up on JW every single time that: 1. Fleet White is not put in the category of hero, and 2. Every time that Nancy K. is mentioned, whether it be in the context of the JBR case or not. It is sad to see such lack of compassion for a woman who has been through so much torture, mind controlling and sexual/physical abuse, namely Ms. Krebs, or anyone else who has suffered to that extent. How could someone who has no compassion for someone who lived through that abuse and survived, have compassion for a 6 yr. old little girl who was molested, tortured and murdered in Boulder, CO? It is also sad and shameful to see those members here verbally attacked who have played an active role in trying to assist Ms. Krebs in her time of need. I am continuously amazed at the lack of compassion for others on this forum we call Justice Watch, for that is why we are ALL here, isn't it? Ms.Rac. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "Excuse me?" Posted by v_p on 18:47:47 5/04/2001 >>It is sad to see such lack of compassion for a woman who has been through so much torture, mind controlling and sexual/physical abuse, namely Ms. Krebs, or anyone else who has suffered to that extent. <<< First of all, what lack of compassion msracoon? And secondly, the torture, mind control and sexual physical abuse Ms Krebs allegedly suffered has nothing to do with this case ... according to the authorities who have investigated her claims. It's not a lack of compassion for Ms Krebs, it's a bewilderment of why she is continually brought up on the JonBenet forum... why not bring her story and discussion to a more appropriate forum? >>>How could someone who has no compassion for someone who lived through that abuse and survived, have compassion for a 6 yr. old little girl who was molested, tortured and murdered in Boulder, CO?<<< Again, who has no compassion? I don't know NK, I don't have anything tangible that tells me she suffered the torture and abuse, it's not a lack of compassion, it's a lack of knowledge ... OTOH, we have tangible proof of the 6 year old girl's torture and murder ... and lately, in living color. Making judgements is the most hypocritical act of a christian and it just makes me sick. God will judge me ... like you wrote yourself ... no one knows what's in a person's heart ... exceptHim. St Fleet? No, not St. Fleet ... just not pedophile, child molesting Fleet ... IMHO. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "Is that the first time" Posted by Watching you on 18:42:06 5/04/2001 you've seen the work "hate" on this forum, ms? Perhaps you only see it when it's coming from the anti-bash FW posters. Perhaps you should go back through the threads and see how many times we have been told we "hate" the Ramseys; that we are "filled with hatred," "blinded by our hatred." You don't have to be God to feel the vitriol and hatred in the posts that have been lobbed at FW. But, then, it's pretty obvious you, too, have your prejudices. I've noticed. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "I appreciate" Posted by Morgan on 20:31:20 5/04/2001 your post, Msraccon. Unfortunately, there is a biblical reference that is apropriate here: pearls before swine. Several posters here began giving F and P White the same rigorous critical analysis as other case figures have recieved. To certain posters critical analysis of Susan Stine=hero. Critical analysis of FW=Satan. With a few notable exceptions, the majority were more than willing to overlook and make allowances for FW issues that were problematic (tampering with the crime scene after an order from Arndt to guard it, overly controlling behavior of Patsy on the 26th, to the point that Pam Griffin (?) became alarmed and found Patsy overmedicated and dehydrated, threatening and intimidating actions in Atlanta which caused a 911 call to be made, etc.) until the articles about Nancy Krebs appeared in the media, and she was judged to be very credible by respected journalists like B J Plasket. Until then, most JW'ers hoped that Fleet was the White Knight, hero for JB. Noone here has ever accused FW of being the P word, although many posters have hysterically claimed that. When challenged, they were never able to produce any such posts, since none existed. IMO, there is some forum manipulation going on here, some are leaders and some blindly follow. This is an unfortunate reality with the internet. Later, the coven is calling. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 94. "Aha Morgan" Posted by Msracoon on 22:49:42 5/04/2001 Thanks. Turn the light on. Thanks again. Ms.Rac. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 79. "Morgan" Posted by Scully on 21:28:45 5/04/2001 Some are leaders...manipulators...and others just blindly follow...what a crock, Morgan. I must admit I find this statment rather insulting to the intelligence of your fellow posters on the forum, Morgan. I feel confident that each poster was blessed with enough common sense to analyze the volume of information available on the Ramsey case without the necessity of consulting their "leader" for guidance. It may come as a shcok to you but I would be willing to bet that the majority of posters are able to think for themselves and prefer that it stays that way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 80. "It's bedtime Scully" Posted by Morgan on 21:33:55 5/04/2001 Dream on. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 74. "Morgans going fishing again. . . " Posted by freebird on 21:16:14 5/04/2001 No bites yet huh? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 78. "Gone... maybe" Posted by v_p on 21:25:33 5/04/2001 >>Noone here has ever accused FW of being the P word, although many posters have hysterically claimed that. When challenged, they were never able to produce any such posts, since none existed.<<< Lmfao morgan... guess we can't prove whether they did or they didn't because all those posts are gone ... or are they? Someone on another forum said they still have copies. Nevertheless, something about all those posts made FW think he was being slandered ... I don't think it was the simple mention of his flucking with the crime scene. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 77. "freebird" Posted by Frank on 21:23:32 5/04/2001 If there's any fishing being done, its being done by the FW lovers. How many bites did " Why Fleet White is Guilty of Something" get?? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 76. "well, we now what" Posted by mary99 on 21:23:18 5/04/2001 WY's stated purpose for being here is not seek out justice for JonBenet Ramsey, or Nancy Krebs, for that matter, but to 'watch' me. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 75. "And" Posted by Morgan on 21:22:06 5/04/2001 I'm fishing for what? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 82. "good grief mary" Posted by v_p on 21:35:28 5/04/2001 get over yourself. I don't want to speak for WY, but what the hell... I can state with a great deal of confidence that WY is not here to seek justice for NK; why would she when the FBI is looking into it and NK is safe and surrounded by people who love her? JonBenet on the other hand is dead and we seem to be the only ones, even above and beyond her parents, who are seeking justice for her. And I believe WY's tongue was planted firmly in her cheek when she posted she was watching you ... she probably figured it would trigger your paranoid side and send you screaming ... I see it did make an impression since you are not able to easily forget it. Mission accomplished I'd say, she'll be amused, slightly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 81. "Mary99" Posted by Scully on 21:34:11 5/04/2001 Regarding your coment on Watching You. That is in your own humble opinion I presume. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 83. "WY's own words, Scully" Posted by mary99 on 21:40:54 5/04/2001 68. "mind my own business?" Posted by mary99 on 17:10:41 5/04/2001 Who are you to tell me? ROFLOL! Good Lord, what are you doing here? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 69. "Watching" Posted by Watching you on 17:25:35 5/04/2001 you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So it seems her 'raison d'etre' here at JW is to 'watch' me. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 87. "Mary99" Posted by Scully on 21:52:13 5/04/2001 No sense of humor...I mean does anything you ever read here bring a smile to your face? For Chris' sake...Do we have to log in here every day and review a grisly murder case and listen to the emotional and physical problems that our members are facing on a daily basis without some humor interjected here and there? Lighten up....do you think she's a serial killer or something and she's eventually to track down anyone who disagrees with her and garote them all one by one? Give it a rest.....You take things far too seriously. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 85. "hmmm..." Posted by Frank on 21:47:46 5/04/2001 It seems that the WY patrol is walking the beat!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 89. "WY patrol= slackers" Posted by freebird on 21:55:41 5/04/2001 You guys are much better, you, morgan & mary posted within 1 minit of a bite on this thread. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 84. "obsessed " Posted by v_p on 21:44:50 5/04/2001 with her aren't you. It's just like I've heard ... people don't change their behavior, they just change their obsession. Spooky. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 86. "hi "frank"" Posted by v_p on 21:49:16 5/04/2001 how are you "frank?" lol [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 88. "v_p" Posted by Frank on 21:53:25 5/04/2001 I'm doing just fine. How about you? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 90. "scully" Posted by v_p on 22:16:30 5/04/2001 check your mail please ... I'm sending it from a different addy, the old one was screwed up all week and I just got my mail... dammit! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 92. "Msracoon and Morgan" Posted by JR on 23:06:30 5/04/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 23:06:30, 5/04/2001 Might I suggest you read some of the older threads and archives starting with: "White's Basis for Criminal Allegations!" The insinuations about Fleet White in regards Nancy Krebsto are pretty darn clear throughout multiple threads. IMHO! Edited to say: By the way Morgan, what really upset me (and perhaps other posters) is when a comment was made that posters were weren't open to Smit's theory because it might implicate White. I personally don't care who his theory implicates - he didn't present all of the evidence available at the time he left the case and he misrepresented much of what he did show or at least left out very pertinant facts. He also, IMO showed the killer some of what the BPD had managed to withhold up until now. Before you go off on that statement think about it - the police, no matter what city or state they are in, withhold evidence for the very specfic purpose of assuring only the perp would know certain things. In doing so, they can eliminate those inclined to confess to crimes they didn't commit. They can also use the same evidence to catch the perp. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 91. "Careful, Scully" Posted by FT on 22:30:03 5/04/2001 With comments like those to mary99, you're likely to be accused of hissing, spitting, and foaming at the mouth. Inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, you know! BTW, I didn't receive the orders from our leader this morning, did you? Was there some foul-up at headquarters? I felt so vulnerable posting here today, not knowing whether the leader would approve of what I said. You know how cranky she gets when we don't follow blindly! Last time I posted an original thought without checking with her first, she sent me to Reverend Moon's remedial workshop. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 93. "hahahahaha" Posted by v_p on 22:33:37 5/04/2001 but it won't be so funny if she wakes up cranky... I may sleep late. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 95. "Cranky?" Posted by Watching you on 04:21:05 5/05/2001 I see all the little cowards came out after I left last night, like a bunch of gossipy old biddies. Mary99, your comment was so stupid I didn't think it deserved a reply, so I just told you who I am in answer to your question, "Who are you to tell me?" The better question is, what are YOU doing here, but I don't have to ask - it's damn obvious what your mission is here - get Fleet White, destroy Fleet White. Or, seek justice for NK. You are on the wrong forum for that, though. This is, or used to be, the JBR forum. You are right about one thing, M99, I am not here to seek "justice" for NK. If she want justice, let her seek an arrest warrant for that ever elusive person y'all have never called a pedophile, LMAO. I have no sympathy for those who won't help themselves. I have no desire to help anyone who won't even have the dudes who stunned her "to the bone" arrested. No one ever told me this was the justice for Nancy Krebs forum. No one ever told me this was the Fleet White forum. Thilly Me, here all this time I thought this was a discussion forum for JonBenet Ramsey. You've run off many of our best posters because they won't deal with your crap. You won't be happy until you've completely taken over the entire forum and all that's left are the Fleet White haters. It's to that end that you aspire. Too bad you couldn't have just started a forum about Nancy Krebs and Fleet White and left the rest of us out of that muck. I do, however, stand by my original statement - it's none of your business what FW does or what his traffic ticket past is. I suspect your own past might turn up a couple of those incriminating traffic infractions. Your nose is stuck where it has no business being stuck. I don't know why y'all feel so threatened by one old woman named Watching you. I don't feel threatened by any of you. Who's this Frank character who has recently crawled out of his hole? Hi Frank. You just scare the hell out of me, you know? :-) Haha, the WY patrol. Down on your knees, you mindless WYbots. Gawdamighty, now we've got rival freaking gangs - the WY patrol and the mame patrol. Or is that the Mary99 patrol? Freaking grow up, why don't you? Morgan, there are tons of posts that have been saved written up by the Brat Pack. You and the others have a real short memory. If there's ever a hanging to be done, you will all be hung by your own words. Now, I want someone to tell me. Am I in the right place? Is this the JBR forum or is it the Nancy Krebs/Fleet White forum? Because if it is the latter, I need to go find me a forum that is about JonBenet Ramsey where there aren't hidden agendas teeming in the background. Y'all are like an evil cancer on the heart of JW. I feel the poison coming from you all the time. There is no discussion of JBR - it's all about Fleet White. It's making me feel toxic just being here anymore, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. This isn't a nice place to be anymore. I don't like feeling dragged down by the trash talk every damn day. But I hang in there for one little six year old girl who you seem to have forgotten about in your get FW mindset. Nancy Krebs is a non issue in the JonBenet Ramsey case. Get over it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 96. "Clarification" Posted by FT on 08:17:31 5/05/2001 Morgan said, "Noone (sic) here has ever accused FW of being the P word." This may be true. The term mame used was "baby raper." We should make an effort to quote the correct term. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 97. "FT" Posted by Watching you on 08:21:05 5/05/2001 We now have it in writing. Frank has informed us that FW is involved in a sex ring and NK said so. The allegation is clear now. Now for the backup proof. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 98. "WY" Posted by Frank on 08:24:48 5/05/2001 How are you doing today WY? No need to be scared...I don't bite :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 99. "Okay, WY" Posted by FT on 08:34:11 5/05/2001 I missed that. Which thread? I'm running late for soccer practice! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 100. "My thread, FT" Posted by Watching you on 08:36:16 5/05/2001 hello Frank. I don't scare easily. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 101. "I guess" Posted by FT on 08:54:19 5/05/2001 I blipped right past Frank's post. Does Frank have the proof that NK said that? Even mame says she has not made the "leap" that FW abused NK. And mame is closer to NK than anyone else on the forum to the best of my knowledge. Gotta go! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 102. "FT" Posted by Frank on 09:19:19 5/05/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:19:19, 5/05/2001 I said that she said that FW was involved in a sex ring, and that she was a victim of that ring. That's what it said in the Boulder police report that candy posted. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 103. "Has anyone seen a correction?" Posted by JR on 23:54:33 5/05/2001 I certainy hope the Denver Post corrected this story but to be honest, I am not holding my breath and I saw nothing on Mrs. Brady's site indicating they have done so. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 104. "JR" Posted by darby on 00:18:51 5/06/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 00:18:51, 5/06/2001 Yes. candy said so over yonder: Quote: "White was not required to take the stand after speaking with Tidball." http://www.thedailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2000/05lwhite.html edit--This is from the BDC, not the Denver Post. I don't know whether the Post has done the same. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 105. "Darby" Posted by JR on 01:09:20 5/06/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 01:09:20, 5/06/2001 Thanks - IMO the Post should do likewise. Edited to say: No apology - just says White wasn't required to take the stand. However, I don't know that the Daily Camara wrote an article saying the arrest warrant was issued and the Post certainly did. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]