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      EVIDENCE 3: JonBenet was manually strangled, Ginja, 14:29:14, 5/05/2001
        Garrote and knuckles at same time?, Imbackon, 17:43:31, 5/05/2001, (#1)
          I agree, Imbackon, Ginja, 18:06:16, 5/05/2001, (#2)
            Couldn't , darby, 18:10:28, 5/05/2001, (#3)
               Blurred photo, Anton, 20:28:03, 5/05/2001, (#4)
               Knuckles like so..., Zandra, 20:48:35, 5/05/2001, (#5)

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   "EVIDENCE 3: JonBenet was manually strangled"
   Posted by Ginja on 14:29:14 5/05/2001
        Marks on JonBenet's neck come from attempt at manual strangulation
        with perp's knuckles causing the abrasions. 

        Some posters have theorized that a ring caused the large abrasion,
        which is also plausible. What I'm having problem visualizing is how one
        hand's would be placed around the neck to choke while one's knuckles
        are bruising the neck. And if the strength exerted was enough to cause
        the knuckles to abrade the skin, why are there no finger or thumbprints
        in the neck (or any evidence of same in the dissected musculature of
        the neck)? 

        IOW, a new theory and worth discussing if nothing more than to figure
        out how it was done. ;-) 

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   1. "Garrote and knuckles at same time?"
   Posted by Imbackon on 17:43:31 5/05/2001
        Attempt at manual strangulation does not say that the attempt was
        during the actual strangulation with the rope does it?
        In other words could this mean an attempt was made at manual
        strangulation before the rope was applied? If so then that fits with a
        Parent strangling in a rage and the rope being staging which has been
        discussed before.

        Imbackon

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   2. "I agree, Imbackon"
   Posted by Ginja on 18:06:16 5/05/2001
        But what I can't figure out, though, is if you place your hands around a
        person's throat to choke them, how do your knuckles cause abrasions?

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   3. "Couldn't "
   Posted by darby on 18:10:28 5/05/2001
        the mark have been caused by the knuckle of a hand twisting the
        garrote tight...or maybe a hand twisting her turtleneck sweater? 

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   4. "Blurred photo"
   Posted by Anton on 20:28:03 5/05/2001
        I didn't get the chance to watch Smit or his 
        presentations, so all I have to go on are the 
        photos posted here and there. The close-up 
        of the cord showing the left-side abrasion has 
        the lower portion of the abrasion blurred. Did 
        Smit explain that?

        If not, then I think there's a possibility a mark, 
        such as an insignia, was pressed into the 
        skin, some mark that would identify the cause 
        of the abrasion/bruise. That wouldn't likely be 
        the case if it was caused by a thumb, would it?
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   5. "Knuckles like so..."
   Posted by Zandra on 20:48:35 5/05/2001
        Another issue that has been discussed previously on the forum. Insert
        the four fingers of your hand into the neck of a knit shirt. Rotate your
        wrist. Voila! You have simultaneously tightened the neck of the shirt
        and pressed your knuckles hard against the neck inside it.

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