Justice Watch Discussion Board "Steve Thomas Chat" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... Steve Thomas Chat, sabrina, 21:07:04, 5/09/2000 Steve Thomas, Faith, 21:16:53, 5/09/2000, (#1) many thanks to a true crusader for Justice, starry, 21:18:11, 5/09/2000, (#2) Brilliant Chat, Annette, 22:07:27, 5/09/2000, (#3) A few things that came up..., mary99, 22:41:42, 5/09/2000, (#4) Smit's theory details, maxi, 22:51:39, 5/09/2000, (#5) Mary, Ruthee, 22:55:14, 5/09/2000, (#6) Most peculiar, in my opinion,, Cassandra, 05:58:04, 5/10/2000, (#8) minor correction, Chickadee, 09:55:14, 5/10/2000, (#23) Ramseys say, "Never mind", mary99, 05:55:31, 5/10/2000, (#7) Right, I have often commented, Cassandra, 06:01:01, 5/10/2000, (#9) Is there a transcript? , Bunnyby, 06:30:23, 5/10/2000, (#11) I just got through, gaiabetsy, 06:28:54, 5/10/2000, (#10) gaibetsy, Faith, 06:37:04, 5/10/2000, (#12) stage 4, sabrina, 06:52:26, 5/10/2000, (#13) That's a joke, Watching you, 07:39:17, 5/10/2000, (#14) Anyways, Watching you, 07:41:04, 5/10/2000, (#15) Heh, so over, Watching you, 07:49:57, 5/10/2000, (#16) Yes who would know, socks, 15:35:08, 5/10/2000, (#40) ..Bunny, jonesy, 08:08:06, 5/10/2000, (#17) Disappointed, Denver, 08:35:05, 5/10/2000, (#18) Denver, socks, 15:36:37, 5/10/2000, (#41) Denver, Bobby, 08:56:40, 5/10/2000, (#20) LOL denver, Starling, 08:44:35, 5/10/2000, (#19) Mrs Brady Sunday Column, Cassandra, 09:13:01, 5/10/2000, (#21) Bobby, MadT, 09:32:03, 5/10/2000, (#22) I didn't know that, Watching you, 09:56:34, 5/10/2000, (#24) Bobby, Denver, 10:02:56, 5/10/2000, (#25) Is it somehow essential, fiddler, 10:30:56, 5/10/2000, (#26) Over thar, Watching you, 10:32:08, 5/10/2000, (#27) ROFL, Seashell, 10:48:09, 5/10/2000, (#29) ST on sexual abuse, mary99, 11:07:12, 5/10/2000, (#30) Mary-- re: Stage 4, sabrina, 19:28:15, 5/10/2000, (#50) Stage Four, DrTee, 19:37:26, 5/10/2000, (#51) Mary99, socks, 15:43:00, 5/10/2000, (#43) Bunnyby, starry, 10:40:42, 5/10/2000, (#28) Steve..., Chickadee, 11:10:36, 5/10/2000, (#31) Thanks you girlfriends!, Bobby, 11:22:46, 5/10/2000, (#33) Aw, sheesh, Watching you, 11:18:09, 5/10/2000, (#32) Watching You..., Chickadee, 20:55:05, 5/10/2000, (#52) Bobby and Seashell, MadT, 12:00:13, 5/10/2000, (#34) I've been told and I believe, gaiabetsy, 12:13:32, 5/10/2000, (#36) grand jury, maxi, 12:08:29, 5/10/2000, (#35) Surely they did,Maxi., gaiabetsy, 12:15:23, 5/10/2000, (#37) Steve, ace21214, 13:30:51, 5/10/2000, (#38) I don't love Steve, DrTee, 15:21:02, 5/10/2000, (#39) Dr. Tee, Sioux, 16:45:24, 5/10/2000, (#45) Webtv loss is not being able to chat with ST, ayelean, 15:52:10, 5/10/2000, (#44) Someone "innocent" wrote the note?, CommonSense, 15:42:13, 5/10/2000, (#42) CommonSense, BadManners, DrTee, 16:49:35, 5/10/2000, (#46) Sioux, DrTee, 16:58:51, 5/10/2000, (#47) Hey Steve,, Ribaldone, 17:22:44, 5/10/2000, (#48) Throws cold water, v_p, 18:26:33, 5/10/2000, (#49) ................................................................... "Steve Thomas Chat" Posted by sabrina on 21:07:04 5/09/2000 Thanks Steve. I was honored to be there. YOU are my hero. Please come to JW chat sometime, the link is on the daily thread. Hope the transcipt will be posted, wow, there was so much said! [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Steve Thomas" Posted by Faith on 21:16:53 5/09/2000 I was there tonight too as Girl4Justice. It was great. Thanks Steve for giving us your time. You are indeed a hero. It was so good to see you standing up to the likes of Jameson [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "many thanks to a true crusader for Justice" Posted by starry on 21:18:11 5/09/2000 Steve, thank you so very much for being so honest with us and so very real. We appreciate that and believe me, we do know the difference. We wish you well and as always we're going to stick together to see an ending to this crime. Someday, somehow, there will be Justice for JonBenet! Bless you and your wife. many huggs, starry [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Brilliant Chat" Posted by Annette on 22:07:27 5/09/2000 Thank you Steve for the best chat on JBR case I've ever been to.You did great.I hope you will come to Justice Watch chat sometime.There was so much more we wanted to ask you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "A few things that came up..." Posted by mary99 on 22:41:42 5/09/2000 One, Steve said there would be a correction in the upcoming paperback edition of ITRI: it was a golf club, not the baseball bat, that had a hair (confirmed JB's?) on it. The baseball bat was found in the yard (north yard?), but it didn't have the hair. And, two, ST was asked, about whether the Stage 4 cancer was verified...I didn't catch his answer, as I was re-entering the chat; can anyone tell me what, if anything he said re: Patsy's Stage 4 ? At the very end, the question of the CO law which requires individual charges came up...but he didn't answer that one. Probably too long and involved for a guy without a typist and three hours to reply! Also he was upset about the 'groundless' allegations made against FW by MW. Blames AH for that. Never got a response to my question of JR's handedness. Or whether it was known by ransom note ev. whether the author was right- or left-handed. Interesting reply to question of the 911 call on the 23rd: (It was news to me) 1. Call came in as 'unknown 911', a common call, according to Steve. 2. Uniformed police responded, made contact by intercom with ? someone who said it was misdialed by someone using a cordless (or cellular?) phone. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Smit's theory details" Posted by maxi on 22:51:39 5/09/2000 Was there any discussion of the points in Smit's theory (like the stun gun) that ST said were disproved? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Mary" Posted by Ruthee on 22:55:14 5/09/2000 That was interesting about the intercom. DOI reported it as though Susan Stine met an officer at the door and indicated that there was a mistake. It's interesting that they never opened the door to the responding officer. I find that very strange. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Most peculiar, in my opinion," Posted by Cassandra on 05:58:04 5/10/2000 to deal with the police at the door by intercom. Wouldn't most cops want to see someone face to face to verify that everything was ok? But, on the other hand, remember Jeffrey Dahmer and the kid and the cops who came to his house? Stine shows up frequently in this case. She was apparently the last one to see JonBenet alive, she dealt with the cop by intercom on the 23rd, (is that right?), they lived with her,and she moved to Atlanta to do whatever it is she does. How odd. Thanks for the update on Steve Thomas. I'll make a correction about the golf club in my copy. Any other corrections we need to make? Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "minor correction" Posted by Chickadee on 09:55:14 5/10/2000 Thanks so much for the excerpts! I hated missing Steve,but it was my 30th anniversary.Tough choice...but I did get the most beautiful hybrid roses and a very touching card (from my hubby, not Steve ;-)) Cassie- One innocuous error I noticed in Steve's book is his reference to Beth as JB's step-sister,rather than half-sister.And he says it 3 times *cringe*.A common error,but as someone with both step and half siblings, I know there's a big difference. ok...now I feel nitpicky.Loved the book,love Steve...love,Chicky xx [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Ramseys say, "Never mind"" Posted by mary99 on 05:55:31 5/10/2000 This is classic catering to the elite...when a 911 call comes in from the 'wrong side of the tracks', would a uniformed officer leave the house after making intercom contact with an unknown adult who says, 'Never mind'? Not where I live. Why have enhanced 911 if anonymous calls aren't followed up? This increases my suspicions there was something wrong and nobody wanted to open the door. I thought in earlier (Ramsey)accounts, the cop was invited in and left after seeing for himself that a party was in progress and everything seemed OK. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Right, I have often commented" Posted by Cassandra on 06:01:01 5/10/2000 how helpful it would be to know what was truth and what was rumor. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Is there a transcript? " Posted by Bunnyby on 06:30:23 5/10/2000 My computer didn't come yet. Watch come this afternoon when I go to work. The one day I go in at three and it will come. The FedEx man stopped in front of my home yesterday and then went on. Anyway I couldn't get in on webtv. It would be cool if ST joined justice watch. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "I just got through" Posted by gaiabetsy on 06:28:54 5/10/2000 wondering on another string about the "Burke-did-it" theory. Anyone ask Steve's opinion on that? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "gaibetsy" Posted by Faith on 06:37:04 5/10/2000 If I remember correctly, I believe Steve said that there was nothing to indidcate to him that Burke had any part in the crime or knowledge of the crime. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "stage 4" Posted by sabrina on 06:53:48 5/10/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:53:48, 5/10/2000 Steve said it could not be verified due to the physician/patient privledge, or whatever you call it... So it was NOT verified that she had STAGE 4... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "That's a joke" Posted by Watching you on 07:39:17 5/10/2000 seems as if everyone and his brother can gain access to your medical records anymore, but the law cannot. Yep, that makes sense. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Anyways" Posted by Watching you on 07:41:04 5/10/2000 I was wondering if Steve Thomas would come to my house for a little chat. Mrs. Thomas can come too. I am only interested in picking his brain. On second thought, Mrs. Thomas can stay home. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Heh, so over" Posted by Watching you on 07:49:57 5/10/2000 at little heads forum, they are upset because some of their questions were not asked of Steve Thomas on last night's chat session. Too bad they don't know their questions were stupid - like, why didn't Patsy have urine on her clothes and why didn't she stink of urine the next day. Like, maybe she did, who would know? LOL. Stooopid. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Yes who would know" Posted by socks on 15:35:08 5/10/2000 Since according to John Patsy was busy up chucking all over the place. Yes, Steve is great. I would say more, but I would embarrass myself. Be still my beating heart. socks [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "..Bunny" Posted by jonesy on 08:08:06 5/10/2000 ...bill said he would put the chat log up - both edited and unedited - keep checking back - [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Disappointed" Posted by Denver on 08:35:05 5/10/2000 I was so disappointed that the LH with the best theories did not ask any questions. My favorite theories from LH are the poisoned toothpaste theory and the perp in the manhole with the dental mirrors. ROFLAMO [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Denver" Posted by socks on 15:38:15 5/10/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:38:15, 5/10/2000 Edited to say, never mind.. I thought you had written poisoned toothpicks. LOL They are so amazing. Wonder if they would consider donating their brain to science. socks [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Denver" Posted by Bobby on 08:56:40 5/10/2000 >I was so disappointed that the LH >with the best theories did not >ask any questions. My favorite >theories from LH are the poisoned >toothpaste theory and the perp in >the manhole with the dental mirrors. >ROFLAMO Please tell me you are kidding about those theories. You are, aren't you? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "LOL denver" Posted by Starling on 08:44:35 5/10/2000 I recall those! I can't wait to read the transcript! Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Mrs Brady Sunday Column" Posted by Cassandra on 09:13:01 5/10/2000 The entire 'Boulder Daily Camera' article "Hunter Answers Attacks" is available. Very interesting. The last sentence: "Thomas says his book does not contain any information that the District Attorney's office had not already given to the Ramseys." AND: Don't miss Maw's column today! Most interesting. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Bobby" Posted by MadT on 09:32:03 5/10/2000 She's not kidding. I wanted to hear questions about the "Linda Arndt's lesbian love slave did it" theory. I'm not kidding either. I guess I was swooning at one point and fell out of chat, so I'll be anxious to read the transcript to see if the love slave theory came up. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "I didn't know that" Posted by Watching you on 09:56:34 5/10/2000 about the lesbian love slave. I was more interested in the theory that Linda Arndt did it, LOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Bobby" Posted by Denver on 10:02:56 5/10/2000 Bobby, I kid you not. You really have to go to the LH forum occassionally to appreciate your own sanity. Oh, and to get your laugh for the day. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Is it somehow essential" Posted by fiddler on 10:30:56 5/10/2000 to the theory that the love slave be a lesbian? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Over thar" Posted by Watching you on 10:32:08 5/10/2000 it is. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "ROFL" Posted by Seashell on 10:48:09 5/10/2000 The dental mirrors/manhole is a keeper. I never go there. Will someone please post a URL so I can have a laugh when I need it? Thanks. Did anyone ask ST why incest was not considered just as valid a theory or more so after seeing all the abuse evidence? Does he really think PR alone had been incesting her with objects and fingers? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "ST on sexual abuse" Posted by mary99 on 11:07:12 5/10/2000 I asked that very question (to the moderator), but it was never posed to ST. There were some limits to ST's replies based on the number of questions coming in and at one point the moderator or Steve mentioned that he had to keep his replies brief, so it's understandable that he wouldn't answer a question if he couldn't do it justice. Also that issue may be close to the heart of the evidence against Patsy, but he ain't saying so now. He spoke several times of how strongly he felt she was 'the one' and also said he wouldn't mind going over DOI with them for inaccuracies, 'Starting on page 1'. Sabrina, (?) thanks for posting the answer to the question of verification of Stage 4 cancer; why does it not surprise me that they weren't able to confirm this due to privacy of Dr/Patient records? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "Mary-- re: Stage 4" Posted by sabrina on 19:28:15 5/10/2000 I was really interested in this too. I kept firing away last night and finally the moderator asked him! IMO, she did not have stage 4. I do not believe in miracle cures and all of a sudden cancer is gone because of her great faith or whatever b.s. she claims. I am not familiar with all the details as I have not read the POS and do not intend to.. (after my trip to the former communist Soviet Union I refuse to look at propaganda)I think it's all an exaggeration on her part, which is the way she does everything anyway... exaggerated OVERDONE and OVERKILL. Even the ransom note!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Stage Four" Posted by DrTee on 19:37:26 5/10/2000 I agree. I never believed Patsy had cancer--at least stage four. I have a friend who exagerrates all his ailments too. When everyone else had the flu, he had INFLUENZA! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "Mary99" Posted by socks on 15:43:00 5/10/2000 Mary, I remember Patrick Burk traveling to Baltimore with Patsy a month or so after JonBenet's death. I thought it strange that he would go with Patsy for a medical check-up. Maybe this is why. He may have put them on notice not to release her medical records. socks [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Bunnyby" Posted by starry on 10:40:42 5/10/2000 Steve is a member of JW. He reads here and MA Brady. He said last night that Ma is his hero. I'd be absolutely *glowing* if he said that about me, Ma. He also asked if the Autumn that was in chat was the Autumn that makes him blush on occasion. lol. Such a cutie. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Steve..." Posted by Chickadee on 11:10:36 5/10/2000 I cried when you left the force.It's been a long time since a book made me cry. I wish you great happiness in your life,Sweetheart. Thank you for all you've done. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Thanks you girlfriends!" Posted by Bobby on 11:22:46 5/10/2000 I guess you weren't kidding about the LH Forum because too many of you seem to be talking about their "theories". Hey Autumn! Didn't know ST was married guess I better take bake all the suggestions about down comforters/electrical outage on your island. Besides the neighbors would be yapping and then the school secretary would have YOU in trouble. Just kidding. Your island is lots bigger than mine was. Glad to be in the South now for a while. Meant to say sorry I missed the ST chat thing. I don't know what I was doing wrong. Next time I will try earlier. Thanks for reporting. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Aw, sheesh" Posted by Watching you on 11:18:09 5/10/2000 Chickadee, you called him sweetheart. I don't know if I'd go that far, but I do think he had some hard times there for awhile when he was working of the JBR case. His wife deserves some recognition for her sacrifices during this time, too, since it seems ST was working night and day on the case. Just the fact that they managed to keep their new marriage together seems like a Herculean effort to me, or maybe they just really, really love each other. I like a man who really, really loves his wife, and I like a wife who sticks by her husband through his difficult times. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Watching You..." Posted by Chickadee on 20:55:05 5/10/2000 Let me clarify.I called him A sweetheart,not MY sweetheart...just a term of affection.What his wife must have endured hasn't escaped me.She has all my respect and admiration. And you've just described my marriage.Yesterday was our 30th anniversary...which is why I missed the Steve chat. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Bobby and Seashell" Posted by MadT on 12:00:13 5/10/2000 Bobby: The Linda Arndt/Love Slave scenario involves Linda and a woman who is her love slave (not kidding). The love slave kills Jonbenet so that Linda can solve the crime and become famous (also not kidding). It is every bit as believable as the poison toothpaste, dental mirrors used to watch the house from a manhole in the alley, and just about everything else that is posted theory-wise over there. Seashell: I asked that abuse question at apbnews.com and Steve answered it. If you want to read the answer, it is in the thread "Initial Comments by Steve Thomas" and posted with the hat "MissyToddler". Or should I bring it over here? I printed it out and slept with it under my pillow last night (am I kidding or not? LOL). [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "I've been told and I believe" Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:13:32 5/10/2000 I'm very intuitive, and there is nothing about Steve Thomas that doesn't come off as completely genuine. No, he's no saint, I'm sure, but I'd trust him if I were in a life and death situation. You'd want to believe that about any policeman, but unfortunately can't. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "grand jury" Posted by maxi on 12:08:29 5/10/2000 I wonder if the grand jury was able to obtain the medical records. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Surely they did,Maxi." Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:15:23 5/10/2000 I worked in medical records at a hospital and sometimes we received legal documents requiring the release of records to "other parties". It was hard to obtain, but could eventually be gotten with a lot of work and too much sweat (and precious human time). [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "Steve" Posted by ace21214 on 13:30:51 5/10/2000 Thanks for a great chat. I love the fact that you "know" us already! Keep reading JW. Some very smart people post here. Thanks again. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "I don't love Steve" Posted by DrTee on 15:21:02 5/10/2000 I'm almost through the book, and first of all, it's very well written, much better than Schiller's, although it also has the weakness of not giving us enough dates here and there to let us know exactly where we are in the whole mess. I still haven't found anything in the book that proves Patsy did it. Just because she wrote the note doesn't mean she did it, and I am troubled by what I believe was prior sexual abuse. But I still have a hundred pages to go. What bothers me about the book is the ultra-conservatism. I'm apparently one of the few liberals on this forum. I vote Democrat (though this year I may have to vote Green Party) and I am against the death penalty. So Thomas's comments about liberals (that we are all "soft" on crime and that all murderers should be fried) is offensive to me. I was disappointed in chat last night (as I have been in chat with Schiller TWICE) at the way everyone dismisses the 911 call on the 23rd. I know that false 911s are common, but how often are they followed by a murder in the same house? I don't mean to come down hard on Steve Thomas. I like the book and I've actually picked up some new information from it (who'd have thunk it?) but I don't see how we can exclude John so quickly from anything but writing the note. Remember JOHN's the one who took a shower that morning. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Dr. Tee" Posted by Sioux on 16:45:24 5/10/2000 **I'm almost through the book,** And I am about to start it, so your comments were interesting . **I still haven't found anything in the book that proves Patsy did it. Just because she wrote the note doesn't mean she did it,** True, but Tee, what in the world would possibly be her motive? if she DID write the note, you have to find her motive to write it, and what other better motive than covering up her crime? Second guess would be covering up John's or Burke's crime, but that would be still further away in the priorities of motives of writting a fake ransom note, I think. **and I am troubled by what I believe was prior sexual abuse** I am too.I can accept that Patsy could have been torturing JB that way,(stranger things have happened) but if so, I can't imagine HOW IN THE WORLD no one around them noticed anything weird. **What bothers me about the book is the ultra-conservatism. I'm apparently one of the few liberals on this forum.** Okey, here is my problem with labels. I would say I am a person who also is very reluctant with ultra conservatists views IN GENERAL.I like to consider myself a liberal. Still, the very few pages that I have been through in Steve's book make me ashamed of the "liberals" he critizes in his book. I think I would critize the very same things the same way (and again, I am in the VERY beggining of the book, so maybe later on I'll think differently). Boulder HAS BEEN soft on crime, and I don't like that.Crime is crime, no excuses. ** I vote Democrat (though this year I may have to vote Green Party) ** I think I will too, truly. **and I am against the death penalty.** See what I mean about labels?I am pro death penalty (the only one in my family). At least in the cases of reincidences in MURDER. I would love to see all the money that goes to pay the murderer's therapist to go pay the VICTIM's therapist. That's where I want my taxes to go. And to raise the salaries of police officers, teachers and firemen. Oh, don't get me started. ** So Thomas's comments about liberals (that we are all "soft" on crime and that all murderers should be fried) is offensive to me.** I don't see why it is offensive to you unless you live in Boulder! **I was disappointed in chat last night (as I have been in chat with Schiller TWICE) at the way everyone dismisses the 911 call on the 23rd. I know that false 911s are common, but how often are they followed by a murder in the same house?** True, true. I'm with you a hundred per cent in that one. **I don't mean to come down hard on Steve Thomas. I like the book and I've actually picked up some new information from it (who'd have thunk it?) but I don't see how we can exclude John so quickly from anything but writing the note. Remember JOHN's the one who took a shower that morning** SO TRUE.But why in the world would Thomas dismiss him so quickly? I'll finish the book and see what I think about it afterwards. Love and Peace. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Webtv loss is not being able to chat with ST" Posted by ayelean on 15:52:10 5/10/2000 I do hope the transcripts go up where I can access them. This lesbian love slave thing, is the slave Patsy, Susan Stein, or Jams? Not hard to imagine any of them. Maybe even a triangle. I might have to relook at my theory. Steve, will we know if and when you are posting here? I have some suspicions. You would be joining a good bunch of sleuths. If it can be proven that Patsy wrote the ransom note, isn't that grounds enough for a very long sentence since it is about the kidnapping of minor and a minor who should have been afforded protection by the writer of the note. Even if JBR had not been killed but a kidnapping was used as a ploy, isn't that a Federal crime? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Someone "innocent" wrote the note?" Posted by CommonSense on 15:42:13 5/10/2000 "Just because she wrote the note doesn't mean she did it." "What bothers me about the book is the ultra-conservatism. I'm apparently one of the few liberals on this forum. I vote Democrat (though this year I may have to vote Green Party) and I am against the death penalty. So Thomas's comments about liberals (that we are all "soft" on crime and that all murderers should be fried) is offensive to me." . . . Well, I'm a Democrat and I'm liberal but I've got the common sense to know that whoever wrote that note killed that little girl. Patsy was in the house. Patsy's fingerprints are on the pineapple bowl from which JonBenet last ate. Patsy lied and said that JonBenet went straight to bed without eating. Patsy claims to have found the ransom note but her fingerprints were not on the note which means that she was wearing gloves when she came down the stairs in the exact same outfit that she wore from the day before. I don't think that even Patsy would have accessorized with gloves (even though Jackie Kennedy may have in similar circumstances), which would suggest that perhaps she was wearing gloves because SHE JUST COMMITTED A MURDER! Folks, we're talking about guilt beyond a "reasonable" doubt. Sure maybe Patsy's fingerprints aren't on the note because it was a special type of paper that would not pick up the fingerprints of Patsy Ramsey. However, the pad from which the note came had only the fingerprints of Patsy and police officers on it. So, I guess the special "frame Patsy paper defense" won't work. Get real . . . Even a liberal can see this one - get this drama queen out of the media spotlight and put this drama queen in front of a jury. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "CommonSense, BadManners" Posted by DrTee on 16:49:35 5/10/2000 I am real. I didn't say Patsy was innocent. Certainly she was involved in the coverup at the very least. What I'm saying is that just because she wrote the note doesn't mean she committed the murder. John could have committed the murder and Patsy helped him with the coverup. As I said, I still have a hundred pages to go and am looking for Thomas to explain how he makes that extra leap from Patsy writing the note to Patsy having committed the murder. I'll be back when I'm finished. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Sioux" Posted by DrTee on 16:58:51 5/10/2000 Thanks for the civil debate. I can imagine John getting Patsy to help him coverup. The argument could have been, look, Patsy, you're going to die soon with this ovarian cancer, and if I'm in prison Burke won't have a parent. I can see that sooner than I can John covering up for her. Again, I'm not saying this is what I think happened, just that it haven't ruled it out yet. As for the abuse, this is where Thomas's book comes in and makes some additional points. That JB not only wet the bed but also defecated in it could be a sign of abuse, as Thomas explains. And this seems to have started up again about a month before her death. Also, Thomas mentions that JB had seen a therapist, but that they couldn't get any information because of the patient/dr. confidentiality crap. About labels. I don't think it was the fact that Hunter is a liberal that makes him so despicable. It's that he is spineless and, well, just despicable. Surely Lou Smit is conservative, but he behaved despicably too. It has nothing to do with politics. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Hey Steve," Posted by Ribaldone on 17:22:44 5/10/2000 that was fun last night. Let's do it again soon! (wink) I thought it was fun to see another side of you. In TV interviews you are very professional and articulate, but last night we saw a little more of your personality. You sounded like you were enjoying yourself as much as we were (well almost). Anyway, it was great. I hope to see you on the JW chat. I'm guess I'm going to have to start going now! I wonder if Mrs. T gets a kick out of reading our posts slobbering all over her husband. Can she say SHARE? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "Throws cold water" Posted by v_p on 18:26:33 5/10/2000 on Ribaldone .. lol. I couldn't get in, so I am anxiously awaiting the transcript. V. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]