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JR talks about the lawsuits!, Aurora, 07:57:20, 5/12/2000 nice catch!, fly, 08:09:10, 5/12/2000, (#1) odd use of "respect", Zhanna, 08:16:44, 5/12/2000, (#3) nutz, Dianne E., 08:22:50, 5/12/2000, (#6) ..takin' the long way home, Nikki, 08:14:04, 5/12/2000, (#2) Zhanna, Watching you, 08:19:25, 5/12/2000, (#4) WY,, Househazard, 08:23:47, 5/12/2000, (#7) Burke aware, maundy, 08:21:02, 5/12/2000, (#5) Excuse me..John...but!, Country Girl, 08:27:12, 5/12/2000, (#8) fly--there aren't four other, fiddler, 08:39:47, 5/12/2000, (#9) Maw called it "Yackety Yack JR talks back", Cassandra, 08:49:48, 5/12/2000, (#11) Fly, Aurora, 08:45:55, 5/12/2000, (#10) Thanks, again, Aurora, fly, 08:51:48, 5/12/2000, (#12) Well, JW may end up on that list...., sds, 09:42:17, 5/12/2000, (#13) jimminy crickets, dixie, 09:49:50, 5/12/2000, (#14) JR says BPD, ddown, 10:31:49, 5/12/2000, (#17) Their Last Hurrah.., Greenleaf, 10:06:27, 5/12/2000, (#15) Yeah, right!, Greeality, 10:28:31, 5/12/2000, (#16) "shouting in the wind", Greenleaf?, Edie Pratt, 10:32:19, 5/12/2000, (#18) Edie, LOL, Ribaldone, 17:14:11, 5/12/2000, (#27) JR says.., rico, 11:05:22, 5/12/2000, (#20) believe what I say, not what I do time again, Longhorn, 11:00:51, 5/12/2000, (#19) I still don't understand, Edie Pratt, 12:01:40, 5/12/2000, (#21) Guilt, Seashell, 12:17:56, 5/12/2000, (#22) maybe.., Dianne E., 13:19:16, 5/12/2000, (#23) How come when JR's defense lawyers, fiddler, 15:21:20, 5/12/2000, (#24) Right on, Fiddler, Edie Pratt, 16:42:51, 5/12/2000, (#25) This just makes me...., BusDriver, 16:50:47, 5/12/2000, (#26) I just hope..., Ginja, 17:16:59, 5/12/2000, (#28) To paraphrase Peter Boyles..., Byron, 18:01:22, 5/12/2000, (#29) ................................................................... "JR talks about the lawsuits!" Posted by Aurora on 07:57:20 5/12/2000 While numerous questions still swirl around JonBenet's murder, Editor & Publisher magazine asks John Ramsey only about the motives behind these four libel lawsuits and the family's legal agenda. The interview was conducted by telephone today. Additional comments by John Ramsey, responses from the media defendants, and an analysis of the lawsuits will appear in the May 15, 2000 edition of Editor & Publisher magazine. Q: Why instigate these lawsuits on behalf of Burke? He's a young boy, and may have to endure a long legal battle? A: It is, I guess really two fold: One is to hold these people accountable for libeling another human being. But, more importantly, these people have libeled a nine-year-old child for profit. And that ought to outrage and disgust every American citizen. And I'm not going to sit back and say, 'Oh, well that's okay.' It's a tragedy and cancer in our society. Q: Yet Burke's name and identity will just be perpetuated in the media, keeping him in the limelight. Why do that to him? A: Because he's been perpetuated for three years as a murderer of his sister. And we're going to set the record right and the only way we know how. And that's through the courts. Q: Litigation involving Burke could last for a while, and really get bogged down. A: We're fully prepared to go years on it. Q: For Burke's case? A: For Burke. Q: Hoping for a settlement instead? A: I don't care about settlements. I want to hold these people accountable for the horrendous attack they've made on a child. Because it won't stop with Burke if we don't put a stop to it. It's very profitable for them. You have, you have to stand for something in life. Q: Have you discussed this with Burke, that this is a stand? A: Not in any great detail. Burke is a tough guy. This is his sister. This is something that he's, uh, uh, aware of; that he knows we are fighting for him. Absolutely. Q: And that Lin Wood is fighting for him as well. A: Yeah. The worst thing we can do is to ignore this. For three years, these low-lifes have slandered an innocent child for profit. I can't imagine anything more horrible that has taken place in the American media in my lifetime. Q: The... A: And we have to attack them where it counts, in the pocket book. They are in this for money pure and simple. It has nothing to do with journalism. It has nothing to do with good reporting. This has to do with money. Q: Going after the Star a few months ago seemed like a calculated move. You got that settled and then you have the Post and Time.com coverage easily in your sites. Was that the strategy? A: Yeah. Absolutely. The Star was the original article. And the Post and Time reprinted it (Editor's note: Both newspapers wrote independent stories recounting the Star's coverage). So it was a logical, strategic way to approach it. Q: Any response from these defendants? A: You'd have to ask Lin. I don't know. I know he's talked to their lawyers. But, uh, none that I'm aware of. Q: Lin has said that (former Boulder detective and author) Steve Thomas and (his publisher) St. Martin's Press is now at the top of the list of people and media organizations that you intend to file on behalf of you and Patsy. True? A: Certainly the top five. No question. That's another outrageous, bigger issue than just 'Patsy and John.' This is about a detective employed by the citizens of a community to fairly administer justice and he is now taking justice in his own hands trying to convict Patsy and I, I guess, in the media, all for profit. And that's a huge issue for the American society. People ought to be just aghast at that. And, again, if our lives are to account for something, we're going to account for this kinda crap. That it can't happen in America. Q: That sounds like you've on a mission, after Thomas. A: Yeah! This is bigger than dollar and sense and getting even. This is a tragedy in the American justice system. Steve Thomas ought to be a poster child for what is wrong with police in America. Q: You say Thomas is number five. Is that a flippant number? A: Oh. Yeah. I wouldn't say he's at the top of the list. That would be quite an honor (Ramsey laughs). He certainly has gotten into target range, let me put it that way. As Lin Wood says, we could keep a law school busy for the next few years. Q: A top media lawyer told me earlier that one of the most significant problems in libel lawsuits is often the plaintiffs -in this case you and your wife - often dupe themselves and their lawyers into believing they have a case. How have you assured Lin you're not duping him? A: Lin is working on a contingency fee. I told him if he thinks this is a winnable case, if he thinks any of these are winnable cases, you go for 'em. If you don't, forget 'em. There is only a few I would be interested in filing purely for setting the record straight. Q: And which one's is that? A: Oh, I think this woman Kimberly Ballard who said she was my mistress. An out-an-out lie. And to expect Lin to take that as a contingency fee would be ridiculous. But she was on national television saying she was my mistress. And how am I going to set the record straight other than to prove it in a court of law? Q: Let me rephrase my earlier questions. How did you convince Lin you two are innocent? A: I think, I think any reasonable person that looks at this comes to that conclusion pretty quickly. Q: In six months, Lin Wood says he'll be filing libel lawsuits on behalf of you and Patsy. That's a very different fight than the one Burke is facing. A: Um. They're probably a bit different. Yeah, but uh... Q: It's the "Civil Trial" of you and your wife. A: Well, that's a possibility. But perhaps that's the only way we can get a trial. And we certainly aren't afraid of that. But I think our objective here is to, uh - there is very fundamental principle that has been horribly violated by people in the media. And we can either choose to, you know, to go in a cave and ignore it, or stand up for something. And hopefully we can make a difference. Q: Make a difference in journalism. That must seem a bit ironic to you. A: Yeah (chuckles). I've been told it can't be done. But certainly in the arena of journalism that's purely focused on profit, and does things that have been done by people like the Globe, I don't know, hit 'em where it hurts. And hit them big. Q: Like $35 million. A: Hopefully that's big enough. Q: Any other thoughts? A: I think, uh, the important thing is for us to be good examples for Burke. We've got to fight for what is right. Q: Is that the motive here? A: Certainly. And it's not always easy. This has been a horrible wrong. Q: Was their relief in filing these suits? A: Oh yeah. We've been anxious to get on with it. I'm glad to see we're making progress. There's a long -- lot's to go, as far as I'm concerned. Q: What will the money be used if he wins or settles? A: For Burke? Q: Yeah. A: He has a trust fund administered by my brother and for Burke's benefits. Q: Any other thoughts? A: If you just look at the big picture, the American people would be just aghast at what happened in some of these situations, some of these people that are out there. It gets back to the principle. There are just huge principles that have been violated. Q: Have your Denver (defense) attorneys told you not to pursue these lawsuits? A: Well, yeah, a good defense attorney says lock yourself in a closet and don't come out. But this case and our situation has been taken to the court of public opinion three years ago by the Boulder police. And we tried to respect the justice system by not fighting it in the court of public opinion. And, we've had three years of arguments presented against us capped by Steve Thomas' articulation of the police theory in his book for profit. And we can't sit back forever and not recognize that this has been taken to the court of public opinion by the police and fight it. It's not right. It's not constitutional. But that's the hand we've been dealt. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "nice catch!" Posted by fly on 08:09:10 5/12/2000 Aurora - Great catch! Thanks. JR says about what most of us would suspect. OK, who are the other 4 people at the top of the list? Geraldo, maybe Boyles, but that leaves 2 more. Wecht? Hodges? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "odd use of "respect"" Posted by Zhanna on 08:16:44 5/12/2000 From above transcript, JR says: "And we tried to respect the justice system by not fighting it in the court of public opinion." Ring a bell? "We respect your business but not the country that it serves." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "nutz" Posted by Dianne E. on 08:22:50 5/12/2000 HOW can JohnBoy be so insane to think this is making any sense. Give me a break. Doing this for Burke? Yet, they have barely discussed this with Burke. I think it is time for them to sit down and have a chat with Burke. JR: Burke we are filing a bunch of lawsuits because we want to help you. Of course the downside is, it will keep your face in the public and you will go through hours of ruthless depositions, but we are doing this for the sake of restoring our good family name. PR: Burke, think of all you can do to help other little children. I also have a bunch of face make up left over of your sisters and we need to cover some of those blemishes in case there are cameras outside. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "..takin' the long way home" Posted by Nikki on 08:16:22 5/12/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 08:16:22, 5/12/2000 ...indeed John, you are taking the long way home if you face the judge and a courtroom...if you had really wanted to change the course of the public opinion yourself and your wife should have taken the offer of FBI polygraphs .. ..but no..that, like the exhumation of your daughter, was 'out of the question'...!? ...it would seem that this overkill of depositions is aimed for one purpose..collect back the big bucks you spent on the first round of attorney's that kept your behind out of the slammer..and to make your present attorney a much richer man.. ..this has nothing to do with finding the killer of the innocent child that died in your basement..this is all about you and the dollar bill.. ..you should have stopped with the first suit..now you look like vultures hanging on a fence..and that aint a purty picture... ..help your son by seeing to it that the person responsible for twisting the life from JonBenet spends the rest of their natural life behind bars.. ..and yes, I do agree, it was not little Burke.. ..but maybe, just maybe, you might know someone else who did put a precious six year old to death in your home.. ..JFJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Zhanna" Posted by Watching you on 08:19:25 5/12/2000 "And we tried to respect the justice system by not fighting it in the court of public opinion." What a frigging lie that is, anyways, I mean, they didn't go on CNN and interview with Baba Wawa and Katie Couric to *fight it in the court of public opinion,* or anything like that, did they? Frigging liars. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "WY," Posted by Househazard on 08:23:47 5/12/2000 Exactly! They started the publicity tour before they were even interviewed by police. I wonder how nation and world-wide this case would be if THEY hadn't shown up on CNN so shortly after the murder. If they would have stayed quiet, this may be a big deal on local news, but not get all the coverage it's getting. There are cases all over the country that are a huge deal in the area where the crime was commited, but we never hear of them. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Burke aware" Posted by maundy on 08:21:02 5/12/2000 John regarding Burke: "This is his sister. This is something that he's, uh, uh, aware of." Sounds like he's thinking "uh,oh!" Is there something else Burke's ware of that flitted thru John's mind at that moment? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Excuse me..John...but!" Posted by Country Girl on 08:27:12 5/12/2000 This is about a detective employed by the citizens of a community to fairly administer justice and he is now taking justice in his own hands trying to convict Patsy and I, I guess, in the media, all for profit. I guess Lou Smit's actions are okay since he was the mole in the BDA's office and brought you all the evidence files. And that's a huge issue for the American society. People ought to be just aghast at that. And, again, if our lives are to account for something, we're going to account for this kinda crap. That it can't happen in America. So is murder, John. Remember the murder? We do! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "fly--there aren't four other" Posted by fiddler on 08:39:47 5/12/2000 people on the list. It's just a way to weasel out of having to sue Thomas....I bet you anything. I'm puzzled by JR's motivation here--first, he says they're suing because they have to take a stand against the horrible, terrible media. Then he says he told Lin Wood just to do whatever he wanted, whatever Wood thought he could win. ??????? The guy is such a liar he can't even rant straight. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Maw called it "Yackety Yack JR talks back"" Posted by Cassandra on 08:49:48 5/12/2000 in her column this AM. She has some other interesting articles, too. Gov Owens and the perils of having a teenager, for instance. The clobbering of the 'Rocky', etc. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Fly" Posted by Aurora on 08:45:55 5/12/2000 Here is a bit more. The article was long so I just printed the Q & A's. L. Lin Wood, the family's libel attorney, says another salvo of libel lawsuits will be fired within six to eight months on behalf of Burke's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. The family and their attorney add they are prepared to try and exact a fiscal revenge against individuals and media that have treated them unfairly and are blunt about their future legal agenda. They are ready and eager to summon for themselves the "Civil Trial of John and Patsy Ramsey." On the list of prospective targets, they say, is Denver Post columnist Chuck Green, Colo. Governor Bill Owens, Time-Warner's Court TV, former-Boulder detective and author of the best seller, "JonBenet: Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation" Steve Thomas, Denver radio talk-show host Peter Boyles, Geraldo Rivera, and others. (Apparently...they do not "fear" a civil trial. *tsk tsk* They will bring themselves down..with all this!) Aurora [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Thanks, again, Aurora" Posted by fly on 08:51:48 5/12/2000 CourtTV? What outrageous thing have they done? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Well, JW may end up on that list...." Posted by sds on 09:42:17 5/12/2000 seems that they want this three ring circus to go on forever. Somehow they forgot their daughter JonBenet in the mess they have created for themselves. The Rams have insured that this will never end now. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "jimminy crickets" Posted by dixie on 09:49:50 5/12/2000 These Ramseys have more anger for the cop who had the b*lls and brains to see the Emperor was naked, than for the sposed perp who brutally tortured and killed their child. Pardon me but in light of what was done and that an 'unknown' who did this was still not appreheded, ST and all the tabs would be small potatoes not worth my attention, my goal would be the perps head on a platter, not all this bullchit ligitation designed to divert attention. I hope their greed becomes their downfall. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "JR says BPD" Posted by ddown on 10:31:49 5/12/2000 took the case and their situation to the public court of opinion?!? Didn't they beat everyone to the "court of opinion" with their CNN interview a day or two after jbr's burial??? Talk about blowing smoke! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL ddown ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Their Last Hurrah.." Posted by Greenleaf on 10:06:27 5/12/2000 The Rams know that they will not be indicted while Hunter is in office. They have until January (8 months) to initiate legal action against their "enemies," before the likes of Thompson (or his ilk) is sworn in as Boulder's new D.A. Then, it will be an entirely new ball game. Certainly, they know that. With all the ludicrous accusations they are throwing up on the public wall, they hope that some will stick. It's a cat and mouse game. IMHO, they have lost all creditability. They are shouting in the wind; their voices land hallow upon a ground-swell of public hostility. It's their last hurrah. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Yeah, right!" Posted by Greeality on 10:28:31 5/12/2000 Doesn't he have any idea HOW STUPID he sounds when he lies and lies: >And we tried to respect the justice system by not >fighting it in the court of public opinion. WY - I had the exact same reaction as you - THAT statement is such BS - Who went to CNN that very first week? (by the way WY - I for a long time thought your hat was for Wyoming, hee hee - I like your hat!) ANd Then THIS: >And, we've had three years of arguments presented >against us capped by Steve Thomas' articulation >>of the police theory in his book for profit. And their 'book' which we all know is NOT for profit (yeah, right) is an articulation of Their so-called theory - so everyone named in their 'theory' should sue the Rams Soon as Possible (GO CHRIS and Darnay!)!! I hang on every word these idiots say, and I can't wait until the day THEY hang themselves with these very same words! It can't be long off now! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. ""shouting in the wind", Greenleaf?" Posted by Edie Pratt on 10:32:19 5/12/2000 more like, "breaking wind", lol! Excellent post,GL:-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Edie, LOL" Posted by Ribaldone on 17:14:11 5/12/2000 your posts never fail to crack me up! You're a witty one. I like witty, pithy, smart-ass people . . . they're more fun! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "JR says.." Posted by rico on 11:05:22 5/12/2000 .."a good defense attorney says lock yourself in a closet and don't come out." Best advice Haddon ever gave the R's. Obviously, they like the taste of shoe-leather because they just keep on putting their well-heeled feet in their mouths. Too distraught to give police interviews and days after JB's burial they appear on CNN? And now they sue everyone...Pats is definitely pulling the strings here. Still wondering how much money the "innocent parents" have tucked away in the JB Foundation! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "believe what I say, not what I do time again" Posted by Longhorn on 11:00:51 5/12/2000 Q: Any other thoughts? A: I think, uh, the important thing is for us to be good examples for Burke. We've got to fight for what is right. The mind boggles: a good example for Burke? 3+ years after the fact? At no point did they insist that Burke be officially cleared as they did their other children. Yes, I know it was different, but bottom line, they stood firm on not cooperating, letting Burke dangle under suspicion because it left them a cover. Burke's best interests have always been in the finding of his sister's killer and lifting any cloud over him and his family, wherever it led, and his parents did their utmost to stiffle such an investigation. Yes, they had help with many mistakes, but they stood firm in their resolve to block this case, thus leaving Burke to twist in the wind and come under attack. Add to that, the "official" clearing of Burke was done with semantics for so long, and they did nothing to demand clarification in concrete language. Once again, given a "platform", JR does nothing in the cause of finding his daughter's killer. The lack of outrage is unbelievable, outrage is reserved for the media that they have manipulated from the first week. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "I still don't understand" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:01:40 5/12/2000 why the Ramsey's have not attempted to sue the Boulder County for having their spokesperson announce "there is NO killer on the loose", which was really the catalyst for the media's focus on the R's as perps in the first place! Why don't they start with THAT? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Guilt" Posted by Seashell on 12:17:56 5/12/2000 " I want to hold these people accountable for the horrendous attack they've made on a child." Is JR perhaps trying to assuage his guilt by projecting? I love analyzing these people; they're so transparent. He just can't shut up and I totally disagree with the above poster who says Pats is pulling the strings. He has the $ - he pulls the strings. Unless of course, she's so great in bed that she's got him wrapped around her finger. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "maybe.." Posted by Dianne E. on 13:19:16 5/12/2000 ..JohnBoy is truly so interested in saving HIS good name, he is really letting Perpsy go for it with these lawsuits. IF they actually sue to clear their name, is JohnBoy sneaking in a way to get Perpsy in front of a jury? In a civil trial I don't believe you can refuse to take the stand? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "How come when JR's defense lawyers" Posted by fiddler on 15:21:20 5/12/2000 told him to lock himself in a closet and shut up when it was crucial for him to aid the police investigation, he listened, but now, when he wants money and his reputation back, it's fine for him to disregard his attorneys? These people have an uncanny talent for selective listening. Just like they never searched the house before calling police because they believed the ransom note, but then promptly called both police and friends, because they didn't believe the ransom note. Just like they didn't touch the ransom note because they knew it was important to preserve evidence, but tramped all over, grabbed JBR's dead body, carried it around, and fell on it, because suddenly it ISN'T important to preserve evidence. Just when I think these people couldn't possibly make me sicker, they've got me retching again. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Right on, Fiddler" Posted by Edie Pratt on 16:42:51 5/12/2000 guess that's how it's done on the planet Ram$ey. I wonder if they're sick of themselves, too? It must be so tiresome to keep track of the last lie and think up the latest lie to suit the last lie that has to jive with lie that will follow the latest lie and...on and freaking on! It is pathetic and desperate, but worth the price of admission,lol! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "This just makes me...." Posted by BusDriver on 16:50:47 5/12/2000 SICK! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "I just hope..." Posted by Ginja on 17:16:59 5/12/2000 ...that everyone they sue has more balls than the Star/Globe did!!! Instead of settling, they should countersue! It looks as though the charges are the same, so I don't see why, if people like Boyles, Green and Thomas were sued, they wouldn't pull their cases together as one...ha! sorta like a class action countersuit! LOL All kidding aside, there's strength in numbers. Something else, too. I don't see why people like Boyles, etc. couldn't hire big guns to defend them. Every pundit in the country has had something to say about the Ramseys, and none of its been good. Hell, even Dershowitz thinks Patsy did it! There are plenty of lawyers, good ones!, in this country who would give their teeth to get a chance of bringing the Ramseys down...get them in a courtroom and make them talk! FWIW, if I was one of the litigants, my 'dream team' would not include Hoffman or Hill. Bring in the big guns with experience! And there's plenty of them out there, from Boston to Los Angeles. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "To paraphrase Peter Boyles..." Posted by Byron on 18:01:22 5/12/2000 ..."You've gotten away with murder...now GO AWAY !!" "Have these people NO SHAME?" Zhanna, I think your "catch" of the use of the word "respect" is a good one. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]