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Motherhood, Freckles & Apple Pie, mame, 04:03:51, 5/14/2000 Your courage, reporter, 04:31:10, 5/14/2000, (#1) mame, luvsflowers, 04:31:41, 5/14/2000, (#2) mame, lecarl, 04:49:07, 5/14/2000, (#3) Mame, Bobby, 04:57:09, 5/14/2000, (#4) Very moving., Holly, 04:58:53, 5/14/2000, (#5) What a wonderful tribute mame, starry, 05:44:24, 5/14/2000, (#6) Dear mame,, Greenleaf, 05:44:46, 5/14/2000, (#7) Happy Mother's Day, Mame, mary99, 06:44:33, 5/14/2000, (#8) Mame, momo, 06:46:19, 5/14/2000, (#9) mame, darby, 08:11:07, 5/14/2000, (#10) Thanks, Mame, straykat2, 08:42:37, 5/14/2000, (#11) Mame, Sioux, 08:52:20, 5/14/2000, (#12) To my Mame, Tess, 08:58:38, 5/14/2000, (#13) to mame,, Zhanna, 09:22:58, 5/14/2000, (#14) Thanx Mame>>, ayelean, 09:53:41, 5/14/2000, (#15) Beautiful, mame!, Anton, 10:15:07, 5/14/2000, (#16) Excellent, mame..., LurkerXIV, 11:36:14, 5/14/2000, (#17) Thank You, Mame, KT, 12:48:10, 5/14/2000, (#18) my little "margaret", mame, 14:33:20, 5/14/2000, (#21) Mame, Chart, 14:13:20, 5/14/2000, (#19) Thank you Mame, zoomama, 14:24:53, 5/14/2000, (#20) Sometimes in life we are asked, Colorado-an, 19:28:13, 5/14/2000, (#22) Bravo mame, Gemini, 20:19:34, 5/14/2000, (#23) Thanks mame, Starling, 20:59:16, 5/14/2000, (#24) Thanks, Mame, KimmyAnni, 21:16:26, 5/14/2000, (#25) Thanks for sharing., Cassandra, 11:55:47, 5/15/2000, (#26) Dear Mame,, AuntieBJ, 18:43:05, 5/15/2000, (#27) ................................................................... "Motherhood, Freckles & Apple Pie" Posted by mame on 04:03:51 5/14/2000 Last Wednesday afternoon I looked into the clear blue, sparkling eyes of a friend. As our eyes met I placed my most loved good luck piece in her hand. A beautiful gold Victorian etched bracelet worn by two simple, strong courageous women before me. Through lives littered with pain and heartbreak, they never once lost their love and compassion. Bridget McElroy, my Great Grandmother, gave this beautiful bracelet to my Grandmother, Margaret McArdle. I said, "I want you to wear this bracelet today as a reminder of your tremendous strength and courage. It was a gift to me from a woman I loved deeply. She had clear blue eyes that sparkled just like yours. Eyes of truth. Even on the darkest most painful days of her life she found the courage to love and laugh. She never lost her way. You have the strength of a hundred Margaret's and Bridget's, my friend. Hold your head high as you walk through those doors. And know that I love you." I sat in the cold black and gray sterile lobby of the Boulder Police Department as a courageous woman spoke truth behind closed doors. Words that very few want to hear...much less believe. I thought back over my experiences in the first months of a new century. Events so powerful they changed my life forever. I thought of those who I once respected who openly spat in a courageous woman's face...laughed at her...accused her of being a paid plant...a fortune seeker. I thought of those who scolded her for being too quiet...too loud. The doctors, lawyers, talk show hosts, talking heads... The ego driven, shallow, so-called professionals who shunned her for daring to tell a dark and twisted tale. A tale so horrific they shut their minds...covered their ears...and forgot they had a heart. Next I imagined the blond curls and blue eyes of the dead little girl who once played and laughed under these same beautiful foothills. Another image flashed of another child with blond curls and blue eyes. That same little girl is now a woman trying to find truth behind closed doors...among closed minds. I forced myself to recall late night talks of abuse...baby rapes...garottes...beatings...shock devices...ropes...rituals...murders...monsters posing as men... A little girl who tried to be heard over and over...only to be called a delusional liar... A grown woman who laughed with me...cried with me...helped choose John Irving works for a high school term paper...a wise woman who quietly answered every Jeopardy question...Time spent at an adobe house among red cliffs and wildflowers...Doodlebug drumming the drum loudly on sacred land long ago summering grounds for the Arapahoe Indians. I thought of those who came forward to help her without being asked. Bright, loving women like Chris Wheeler who offered unconditional love and support. The silent sleuths, who spent hundreds of hours sleuthin' with the midnight oil. I know them as the "Carville Detective Agency". Their cyber - investigative skills are phenomenal. Carville's behind-the-scenes work is still helping daily in her legal advocacy. Cheers to my children who proved they listened to some of my constant east coast liberal ranting over the years..."Remember to help those who can't help themselves..." "Think of the underdog..." "See that red mercedes? dont' ever buy one unless you've given an equal amount to charity" Even my soon to be ex-husband of 25 years never questioned my phone call to "set another place at the dinner table and prepare the guest room". While sitting in sterile gray coldness I was encouraged and warmed by the love and support through words, small funds, clothes, humor, and friendship. Some from those who openly discounted her allegations. But nonetheless opened their hearts to help her. The most powerful support continues from dozens of silent, scared voices afraid to talk. Many have tried. They were spit at..laughed at..labeled and forced to hide. Their cryptic letters and tips grow by the day. These victims of sexual and ritual abuse have made the first small baby steps to truth for thousands of little girl curls and blue eyes. Medical Doctors, Psychiatrists, Lawyers, and investigators who took time educate and prove that ritual abuse does happen! Maybe if Peter Boyles made a few phone calls he'd learn it happens too... I was overwhelmed with the apparent strength and character of those who have begun stitching colorful, brilliant patches in what is slowly becoming a warm quilt of support and love for women and children violated, raped, abused and beaten. The Underground Railway of the new century... I call it the, "Girls Kick Ass Railroad..." I recalled words written by my friend to a confidant as she was forced from my home several weeks ago...by intimidation. "...Just to let you know, I called my attorney after our last talk. Two cars pulled up in the alley next to the house and just sat there for a few minutes. Then someone got out of the car and stared at us for several minutes. The car drove off, turned around and parked in front again staring...A tense time for us here. I feel as though I need to be on the move once again. The more I am believed the more danger I will be in. My family had a few days basking in, "She is a fruit loop that will never be believed or listened to." Now they might be realizing I'm not going to shut my mouth. I would never want to put anyone's life in danger, especially Mary and her children. Just know that it has been wonderful to be here with a real family and a real loving home. It is my greatest hope that someday I will not have to run that I will have a life of my own. I hope that someday is soon. I will let you know what plans have been made. God Bless You, Love, ********** She told me of her belief as a little girl that the Pledge of Allegiance would save the day and grant her freedom. Every single day she placed her hand over her heart and said The Pledge. Focusing on the final words...One Nation under God with Liberty and Justice for All...She believed with all her heart that Liberty and Justice for All...included her. As I left the home of Boulder's Finest, they were still behind closed doors with my friend. I realized Liberty and Justice for All, didn't include her then...and probably didn't include her now. I left to meet my own children after school. I frantically pushed buttons on the radio hoping to hear Aretha sing away my blues.... I stopped and listened to the words of a song... Christopher Robin and I walked along...Under branches lit up by the moon...Posing our questions to Owl and Eeyore...As our days disappeared all too soon...But I've wandered much further today than I should...And I can't seem to find my way back to the wood... So help me if you can I've got to get back to the house at Pooh Corner by one...You'd be surprised there's so much to done...Count all the bees in the hive...Chase all the clouds from the sky...Back to the days of Christopher Robin and.......Pooh I felt an urgent need to see my children. As I pulled up in front of their school...I gazed across a schoolyard dotted with baseball caps, skinned knees, backpacks, chubby cheeks, smiles, tears, a mother holding a child's hand, monkey bars, a game of tag, hoops, baseball. I rolled the window down to hear laughter...songs...high pitched screams...yellow bus engines. I was seeing and hearing the wonder and innocence of childhood... I hugged and kissed the freckled faces of my masterpieces extra long. Our dear friend arrived secretly through the back door to spend time with a family who loves her. As we sat alone together waiting to hear of her adventures behind closed doors...she reached out for an antique rose covered pillow waiting in the same spot she left it weeks ago. She instinctively clutched her security pillow, as she did many times before..right before telling of darkness and disappointments. life away from pooh corner...her need to hide...dwindling resources...threats.. intimidation... and courage. Soon the laughter and love of friends and family surrounded my clawed foot oak table ...freckled chubby cheeks arrive on scooters and bikes to welcome a much loved friend...Plasket slices his honey baked ham......BJ and Mame tell tales of their adventures in Pleasantville to roars of laughter...Lee Hill whispers his distinctive "deep throat" whisper...A criminologist tells beauty secrets...a victim's advocate talks lovingly of her troubled adopted children...My friend whispers, "Can we call Chris?"...strawberries sliced...whipped cream whipped...phones ring...e-mails arrive...Shawn Colvin sings in the background...Gerber daisies, love, and laughter help shield the heartbreak and pain of the day. A short visit ends a day later with tearful good-byes. Secret destinations kept even from me. I can hear her voice telling a private investigator..."Sir, I have kept my story pure...I have turned down tens of thousands of dollars offered for my silence... and my story. I only seek truth." Today my son asked me, "Mom, I overheard her say when she was three years old saw blood in the toilet. Why did she say that?" I panicked. How had he heard her say that? The children were never told her real name...or her real story. I sat quietly for a few moments and then I lied... "You heard wrong..." A lie to protect freckles, chubby cheeks, all in the name of Motherhood and Apple Pie... Happy Mothers Day! [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Your courage" Posted by reporter on 04:31:10 5/14/2000 In our world it shouldn't take courage to do the right thing....but it does. YOu have so much so be proud of. Your children will be proud when they know the whole story. Underground Railroad. What a comparison. I hope with you, on this Mother's Day, that the whole story will someday help this woman and all like her. Thanks, mame, for sharing this with us. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "mame" Posted by luvsflowers on 04:31:41 5/14/2000 thank you That was beautiful. Im teary eyed and swallowing the lumps in my throat. You be safe and God watch over your children. Happy Mothers Day to you also. Luvs [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "mame" Posted by lecarl on 04:49:07 5/14/2000 did you get your bracelet back? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Mame" Posted by Bobby on 04:57:09 5/14/2000 That had to be the most beautiful, sad and inspirational piece you have ever written. Many blessings to you and yes the new underground railroad is a perfectly wonderful description. I had time for only one thread today. I am glad I chose this one. Happy Mother's Day all. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Very moving." Posted by Holly on 04:58:53 5/14/2000 Here is my Mother's Day message for MW's mother -- I hope you rot in Hell for an eternity, bitch. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "What a wonderful tribute mame" Posted by starry on 05:44:24 5/14/2000 to you, your mother, deserving mothers everywhere and especialy to your friend who has touched your life forever. Thank you for sharing your life and thoughts with us. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Dear mame," Posted by Greenleaf on 05:44:46 5/14/2000 That was the most poignant, elegantly written post I have ever read, here at Justice Watch. I see you as a whole different person; your lights of empathy and compassion shinning brightly, through such strong, loving words. May God bless you and your friend, on this Mother's Day, and every day throughout the year. My thoughts and prayers will be with you both. Much love, Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Happy Mother's Day, Mame" Posted by mary99 on 06:44:33 5/14/2000 Wow!! Thank you for writing a beautiful tribute...YOU deserve one which celebrates your heart, your honesty and your incredible character. You father would be proud if he could read what you wrote today. Your family is lucky ! I hope you feel loved and appreciated today, especially. Do your husband and children realize you have made a different to thousands of people you never met by your powerful words, both spoken and written? Thanks, Mame! love, mary99 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Mame" Posted by momo on 06:46:19 5/14/2000 Boy you sure do know how to make a girl boo hoo. That was the most touching post I have ever read in my life. You are someone to be admonished for your courage. MW is lucky to have passed you on the road in life. What a blessing it is to know that she had the opportunity to meet you in a most displeasurable set of circumstances. I hope that wherever she goes she runs into others who are as caring and loving and understanding. God bless you for every ounce of courage. Happy Mothers Day to an exceptional mother. You get my vote on that one. momo [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "mame" Posted by darby on 08:11:07 5/14/2000 What a beautiful account. I rarely get all choked up, but I'm sitting here crying. Envisioning that little girl saying the Pledge of Allegiance is heartbreaking. I believe that what happened to JonBenet is absolutely related to what happened to your friend as a child. I just wish that others would simply open up their minds. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Thanks, Mame" Posted by straykat2 on 08:42:37 5/14/2000 Thanks for enlightening us about MW and her struggles. Isn't it sad that an "underground" must exist for battered and abused women? What does that say about our society? There is so much anger and contention "out there". What is the root cause of this? What can be done to repair the damaged souls? Where do we start? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Mame" Posted by Sioux on 08:52:20 5/14/2000 Oh mame. You brought tears to my eyes. If "one pure soul can save the city" yours certainly is the one. What would Boulder do without you. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "To my Mame" Posted by Tess on 08:58:38 5/14/2000 What a powerful piece for this Mother's Day---I am so proud of you---it even brought me out of my silent lurking-----Never forget those things that are important in life---I don't think you have--I love you Mom [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "to mame," Posted by Zhanna on 09:22:58 5/14/2000 What a beautiful and touching account -- and how appropriate to share it on Mother's Day. You, a complete stranger, offered MW the nurturing and love of a mother. I'm sure she'll always feel your hand holding hers across miles and through time. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Thanx Mame>>" Posted by ayelean on 09:53:41 5/14/2000 It is a pleasure to know you. You have make hugh sacrifices for someone who was a stranger to you. How lucky your children are to have a Mom like you. Life is so strange that sitting in you home could possibly be the unluckiest and the luckiest people on earth. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Beautiful, mame!" Posted by Anton on 10:15:07 5/14/2000 Bless you for sharing such a heartfelt tribute to life, love and living. I find your post thrilling and chilling. I joined JW late (only in the last couple of months) and don't know much about "MW"'s story but I believe her, through you. I think it's pitiful we have to refer to her as MW; so impersonal. I think it's pitiful there has to be an "underground railroad", but there does. Sex abuse rings are real, just as serial killers are real, religious cults are real, mass suicides are real. And MW is real, her abusers are real. I've met people who's primary thoughts are about aberrant sexual activity, people who go to therapy and AA-type meetings and basically brag about their behavior. They are real. This can be a frightening world, until we meet someone like you, mame, and those people who surround you with courage and love. Bless you. Damn the beasts, bless the children and those who cherish children and all of life. Anton [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Excellent, mame..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:36:14 5/14/2000 ...and most fitting for this day. I was thinking this morning of all the women who mother one another-- the friends, aunts, teachers, counselors-- some of whom who never actually gave birth, but are more loving, nurturing, and caring than some natural mothers...God bless all of you, and the ones you have helped! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Thank You, Mame" Posted by KT on 12:48:10 5/14/2000 although our prayers are constantly with MW, is there another way we can be of help to her? I am willing to help in any way. And blessing on Chris for providing a place for voices to be heard! Happy Mother's Day to all. KT [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "my little "margaret"" Posted by mame on 14:33:20 5/14/2000 served me scrambled eggs, sausage, orange juice...along with a vase filled with fresh clipped lilacs. it was comforting to see another set of blue eyes sparkling through her glasses, telling me she loves me. wow. i knew as i looked at her she and her siblings will be part of the next generation those who hear small voices...who find those without mothers, and show them kindness and respect. thank you for reading this journal entry. accept my apologies for misspellings and the tons of typos. spell check was fuzzy at four this morning! "panic" of course does not have a "k". i think i wrote ad copy for too many years... to tess, my magnificent mom, who served shriveled meatloaf, tough pork chops and a million kinds of chocolate! she is the finest, most loving woman i know. her grandchildren never took a bath at her house without a yellow rubber duck floating in the bubbles. she continues to find magic in holidays, birthdays, and the whimsy of children. tess and her sister, my crazy aunt hattie, and their mother my (now deceased) grandma irene (the original snoop sisters!) taught me to belly laugh over life's obsurdities. those interested in creating an underground railroad should write me at mamensadie@yahoo.com. i will forward your interest to those professionals who like the idea and are willing to create it. i'll be there too...but, will spend more time reporting and writing again... i invite the "carville detective agency" to step forward and take a well deserved bow. chris wheeler has already done so. i respect their wishes if they choose to stay silent.other famous sleuths like holly, midnight, and others post much of their work regularly. thanks again for reading the words of a middle aged, flawed, eccentric... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Mame" Posted by Chart on 14:13:20 5/14/2000 Thank you for your story today. I am still sniffling after being moved to tears for your tribute to the courage of MW and those like her. You are a fine example of the attributes of a nuturing, caring person - a perfect example of what a "mother" is and should be. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Thank you Mame" Posted by zoomama on 14:24:53 5/14/2000 How delightful and courageous of you to extend yourself and your family to MW. You have touched me this Mother's day and I thank you for that tribute to her courage and yours. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Sometimes in life we are asked" Posted by Colorado-an on 19:28:13 5/14/2000 to take a stand. I don't believe in coincidence so it was no mistake when "our special friend" (MW) was sent here. Whether or not she has any place in this investigation doesn't matter. She was a lady in need. In need of love and friendship and protection. Mame you made the choice to give this lady the courage to believe she can do this. She will be in my prayers that she will be heard, and I pray for her the health and happiness she so richly deserves. Tess you I am sure are very proud of your daughter and without you she would not be the person she is today. Happy Mother's Day! Mame, I feel honored to call you friend. I am so glad I met you on JW. I will keep you in my prayers also and am so proud that even in your own trials, you stretched out a hand to help a stranger. A reminder today, on Mother's Day that a gift has nothing to do with money, it is from the heart. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Bravo mame" Posted by Gemini on 20:19:34 5/14/2000 Outstanding piece. With admiration for your convictions, your actions and your ability to communicate from the heart. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Thanks mame" Posted by Starling on 20:59:16 5/14/2000 You wrote with your heart and it turned out beautiful! I was a very fortunate child. I haven't had to live the monster. I'm a little stunned out the outcome. There are still a few things I'm curious about, but you know God works in mysterious ways and this one is in his hands. My prayers go out to MW, whom I feel is a smart lady. If anyone ever feels they are in danger - reach out and get the help/protection you deserve. There is power in knowledge and numbers. Once a can of worms is opened - forever those worms will be watched. MW should take comfort in that. Happy Mothers day to all of you who celebrate it! Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Thanks, Mame" Posted by KimmyAnni on 21:16:26 5/14/2000 Thanks, Mame, for everything you've done. God bless you. Kim [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Thanks for sharing." Posted by Cassandra on 11:55:47 5/15/2000 I hope she is ok, wherever she is. I tried to post here earlier, but threads were incredibly slow. Also on Plasket's thread. JW was slow-going. I'll try again. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Dear Mame," Posted by AuntieBJ on 18:43:05 5/15/2000 Mame, When you bring tears to the eyes of ACandyRose, you have touch the heart of one who knows. God Bless you ACandyRose [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL AuntieBJ ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]