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DFW Area -- Come Pray with the Ramseys!!, Policedog, 06:53:02, 5/17/2000 Ouch!, Sioux, 07:00:44, 5/17/2000, (#1) policedog, tx_sunshine, 07:10:14, 5/17/2000, (#2) tx sunshine, Policedog, 07:11:50, 5/17/2000, (#4) tx_sunshine.., rico, 08:47:32, 5/17/2000, (#18) Policedog , Bailey38, 07:10:58, 5/17/2000, (#3) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Cassandra, 07:18:14, 5/17/2000, (#5) BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA, starry, 18:52:13, 5/17/2000, (#43) You know, momo, 07:18:45, 5/17/2000, (#6) I love it!, 1000Sparks, 07:24:24, 5/17/2000, (#7) LOL, tx_sunshine, 07:34:04, 5/17/2000, (#8) I think of a famous scripture quote, becky, 07:40:22, 5/17/2000, (#9) Tough questions?, GuyGene, 08:15:09, 5/17/2000, (#13) I just want to know one thing..., Cassandra, 07:51:23, 5/17/2000, (#10) why don't they just, Legalbeagle, 08:17:51, 5/17/2000, (#14) Coffee on the keyboard, Policedog, 08:07:36, 5/17/2000, (#11) I Can See It Now, Ruthee, 08:15:08, 5/17/2000, (#12) Ruthee!, Policedog, 19:09:07, 5/17/2000, (#44) Contemptible!, LurkerXIV, 08:43:05, 5/17/2000, (#16) I predict..., Bailey38, 08:34:53, 5/17/2000, (#15) LOL , Cassandra, 08:58:38, 5/17/2000, (#20) They have no shame, Mrsrick, 08:47:15, 5/17/2000, (#17) Thank you MrsRic, Paralegal, 11:53:18, 5/17/2000, (#31) Talk Candidly???, tinky, 08:55:41, 5/17/2000, (#19) This disgusts me,, Ev, 09:34:12, 5/17/2000, (#22) Ev, Sioux, 10:12:43, 5/17/2000, (#23) hahahahahahahahhahahaha, Holly, 09:32:48, 5/17/2000, (#21) this is the equivalent of , Edie Pratt, 10:33:35, 5/17/2000, (#24) Puke...Puke...Puke, Pretzel, 10:35:59, 5/17/2000, (#25) ROFL, Seashell, 11:02:20, 5/17/2000, (#27) Yeeks! , Greenleaf, 11:13:48, 5/17/2000, (#28) I live in Euless!, chebrock, 10:38:37, 5/17/2000, (#26) It would have been nice if, fiddler, 11:47:53, 5/17/2000, (#29) Christian Expectations, BusDriver, 11:51:56, 5/17/2000, (#30) Bus Driver, I'll ride your, gaiabetsy, 12:25:53, 5/17/2000, (#32) Oh my gosh, Msracoon, 12:44:32, 5/17/2000, (#34) gaiabetsy , BusDriver, 12:34:18, 5/17/2000, (#33) BusDriver, Chris, 13:14:24, 5/17/2000, (#35) Chris, BusDriver, 13:16:23, 5/17/2000, (#36) They have no respect for....., olivia, 13:51:15, 5/17/2000, (#38) gaia, Sioux, 13:38:20, 5/17/2000, (#37) ..murder in their house, Nikki, 14:45:07, 5/17/2000, (#39) Being a Christian I am offended, Colorado-an, 16:35:44, 5/17/2000, (#40) I don't know about this, dixie, 17:06:03, 5/17/2000, (#41) Hitler, Luvsa Mystery, 18:42:38, 5/17/2000, (#42) Christianity does not exist in the , SJ, 19:23:04, 5/17/2000, (#46) Luvsamystery, Msracoon, 19:22:36, 5/17/2000, (#45) Msracoon, Luvsa Mystery, 06:49:39, 5/18/2000, (#56) Greenleaf, Aurora, 20:46:15, 5/17/2000, (#47) A Prayer for the Ramseys, Anton, 22:35:59, 5/17/2000, (#49) Oh, what I would give, canadiana, 22:35:14, 5/17/2000, (#48) opportunity, Cher, 03:49:51, 5/18/2000, (#50) tickets to Prayer meeting, chebrock, 13:52:51, 5/18/2000, (#59) hmmm, tamster, 05:16:07, 5/18/2000, (#51) Tamster, Policedog, Tx_sunshine, chebrock, 07:45:09, 5/18/2000, (#57) Chebrock...., Policedog, 13:48:34, 5/18/2000, (#58) Tamster, Policedog, 06:30:06, 5/18/2000, (#55) Anton,, gaiabetsy, 05:52:44, 5/18/2000, (#54) I wonder why, SDean1, 05:46:34, 5/18/2000, (#53) Tamster, Chris, 05:43:21, 5/18/2000, (#52) Starry...I didn't see post about shirt, Cassandra, 13:55:58, 5/18/2000, (#60) Praise Geezuz!, Edie Pratt, 14:51:45, 5/18/2000, (#61) ................................................................... "DFW Area -- Come Pray with the Ramseys!!" Posted by Policedog on 06:53:02 5/17/2000 Updated: Wednesday, May. 17, 2000 at 01:21 CDT Ramseys to appear in Euless for evangelist's talk show; couple plan to discuss Christian faith, daughter's killing By Tara Dooley Star-Telegram Staff Writer EULESS -- They may just be the most recognizable parents in the country. After the killing of their 6- year-old daughter, JonBenet, more than three years ago, John and Patsy Ramsey took center stage in a case that continues to evoke strong emotions from an audience of American onlookers. Photographs of the Ramseys, especially JonBenet, are regularly splashed on the covers of supermarket tabloids, and the killing remains a popular topic on radio talk shows. Sometimes, the parents are accused in the child beauty pageant queen's death. Other times, their innocence is proclaimed. Recently, the Ramseys added their voices to the chorus by taking to the interview circuit to promote their new book and to answer the accusations. On May 30, the Ramseys can again be heard -- this time in Euless. The couple will tape a segment of Life Today with James Robison, a talk show hosted by the Christian television evangelist. The show will air in mid- July, producers said. "I plan to talk very candidly with them but give them an opportunity to perhaps share some areas that they have not been able to share on other programs," James Robison said. In particular, the Ramseys are eager to speak about their Christian faith, said Rolf Zettersten, publisher of the Ramseys' book, The Death of Innocence. "Their relationship to Christ is an element that hasn't been explored in any of the other interviews they have done," Zettersten said. "They really would like to talk to someone purely about their faith experience and how God has sustained them through this ordeal." In recent months, the Ramseys have appeared on a series of television programs. An interview with the couple also appeared in Newsweek. Robison's show is the first Christian program to host the Ramseys. But they may speak on other religious television or radio shows, Zettersten said. "Until now, the Ramseys have been portrayed to the public by the tabloids in a negative way," he said. "I don't think the Christian community understands that these are decent God-fearing people who have a deep relationship with Christ." JonBenet was found beaten and strangled Dec. 26, 1996, in the basement of the family's Boulder, Colo., home. A grand jury investigated the case for 13 months before disbanding in October without indictments. Although no charges have been filed, the Boulder police have said that the parents remain under an "umbrella of suspicion." The Ramseys have repeatedly said they were not involved in their daughter's death. In their book, they present a theory that an intruder beat and strangled JonBenet. This spring, the couple said they would undergo polygraph tests if administered outside the Boulder Police Department. The department Monday declined an offer by the American Polygraph Association to conduct the tests. Robison said he and his wife, who co-hosts the show, will not shy away from asking the Ramseys difficult questions about JonBenet's death. But the show also will offer time for prayer, he said. "If public opinion were raising all sorts of questions about me, I would want someone to pray for me," he said. This report contains material from The Associated Press. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ramseys in Euless Reservations are required for the taping of the show with John and Patsy Ramsey at 7 p.m. May 30. The program also will include segments with Doug Herman, author of Faith Quake: How to Survive the After Shocks of Tragedy, which is about the AIDS-related deaths of his wife and daughter. Seating starts at 6:30 p.m. Information is available at 267-0040, Ext. 482. Send this page to a friend From:To: For home delivery of the Star-Telegram, dial (817) DEL-IVER. (c) 2000 Star-Telegram, Fort Worth, Texas -- Terms and Conditions Serving the online community since 1982! [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Ouch!" Posted by Sioux on 07:00:44 5/17/2000 **Robison's show is the first Christian program to host the Ramseys. But they may speak on other religious television or radio shows, Zettersten said. "Until now, the Ramseys have been portrayed to the public by the tabloids in a negative way," he said. "I don't think the Christian community understands that these are decent God-fearing people who have a deep relationship with Christ."** Amazing the lenghths some people go to make a buck. I am not a christian, but I never thought there would never be a reason to become "anti-christian" either. Well, I was wrong. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "policedog" Posted by tx_sunshine on 07:10:14 5/17/2000 Sure do wish I was closer to DFW.I would try to get front center seats! If your ever in the San Antonio area let me know.I would love to talk about the case with someone who knows it! I read every day but don`t post too often. JFJB Tx-sunshine [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "tx sunshine" Posted by Policedog on 07:11:50 5/17/2000 I sure will keep you in mind if I get that far south. ;-) To be honest, this is as far south as I want to be, though. Geez.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "tx_sunshine.." Posted by rico on 08:47:32 5/17/2000 I live in San Antonio and would welcome the opportunity to talk with you about the JBR case. Do you ever join in on the JW chat? I'm usually there most evenings for a little while and can send you a pm with my email address. Happy sleuthing! JfJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Policedog " Posted by Bailey38 on 07:12:10 5/17/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 07:12:10, 5/17/2000 Thanks for that piece of information. Why do I get this feeling of a New PTL club with hosts similar to Jim Baker and Tammy Faye? Could it be a new way to promote the book (SHOCK!) and also get donations sent in for the JBR foundation or better yet...money simply sent to the Rams? Just a thought. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" Posted by Cassandra on 07:18:14 5/17/2000 TAKE ME, LORD! Now, I KNOW I've heard it all! LOL Hope Tammy Faye does her makeup! Big mascara tears and all! Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA" Posted by starry on 18:52:13 5/17/2000 >TAKE ME, LORD!Now, I KNOW I've heard >it all! >LOL >Hope Tammy Faye does her makeup!Big mascara >tears and all! >Cassie i TOLD YA'ALL ABOUT MY FAV T-SHIRT. tHE ONE THAT SAYS I RAN INTO TAMMY FAYE AT THE BEACH. IT'S SO FADED i CAN X OUT THE TAMMY PART AND WRITE IN PATSY. tHEN CAN i GO PRAY WITH THE SCAMSEY'S? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "You know" Posted by momo on 07:18:45 5/17/2000 The Ramsey's will go to any length to look good in the public eye. This makes me so sick I better back away from the keyboard. God himself says He will not be mocked. These people are the most disgusting filth I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about. Hell hath no fury compared to the punishment awaiting them. May they burn in hell!!! Poor JonBenet. Ole'Patsy was right. She is in a better place. Anywhere she's not with you IS a better place. Fu#$%^& As&^%$#@!!!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "I love it!" Posted by 1000Sparks on 07:24:24 5/17/2000 Especially the part where they are gonna talk "candidly" AGAIN. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "LOL" Posted by tx_sunshine on 07:34:04 5/17/2000 This far south!We use to live in the Valley.Now that is really south lol. This is IMO a way to sell more books that is all!I bet they will have books there to be had for a fraction,lol small faction of the price. JFJB Tx-sunshine [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "I think of a famous scripture quote" Posted by becky on 07:40:22 5/17/2000 whenever I see those evangelist shows...How does it go? Hmmm ..oh yes.. " A fool and their money are soon parted". [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Tough questions?" Posted by GuyGene on 08:15:09 5/17/2000 >Robison said he and his wife, who co-hosts the show, will not shy away from asking the Ramseys difficult questions about JonBenet's death. Yeah, I bet. Why do I have a feeling that their questions will make Barbara Walters look like Andy Sipowitz? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Robison: Tell us, Patsy, this must be a terrible ordeal for you. How do you manage? Patsy: Well, James, I just trust in the Lord and try to stay humble. James Robison: That's great, Patsy! By the way, you didn't kill your daughter, did you? Patsy: Now, James, you little rascal, you don't think I'd tell you if I did, do you? James: Okay, fair enough. Honey, do you have any questions for Patsy? Mrs. Robison: Just one, darling. Patsy, you were just kidding about wearing the same clothes several days in a row, weren't you? Patsy: Well, of course I was. You don't think I'm THAT uncivilized, do you? Mrs. Robison: Oh good! That's a relief! By the way, do you suppose I could get the recipe for your yummy blueberry pie? Patsy: Sure, sugar, no problem. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yeah, it should be an illuminating interview... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "I just want to know one thing..." Posted by Cassandra on 07:51:23 5/17/2000 Will all the Paugh women be in the "Amen Corner" flinging their arms about in religious ecstasy? I wish all our Texas friends would show up at the taping with a bullhorn and placards! LOL Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "why don't they just" Posted by Legalbeagle on 08:17:51 5/17/2000 stop talking! Lord, I'm sick of their posturing and whining. The next words out of either of them should be in front of a judge, in court, in handcuffs. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Legalbeagle ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Coffee on the keyboard" Posted by Policedog on 08:07:36 5/17/2000 >Will all the Paugh women be in >the "Amen Corner"flinging their arms about >in religious ecstasy? OMG! Cassie, you always manage to get a good belly-laugh out of me. The "ecstasy" was the best part. I am ROFL here. BTW, I can't go - have a first night of class that night, which is why I felt it was important to send out this 'casting call'. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "I Can See It Now" Posted by Ruthee on 08:15:08 5/17/2000 Susan Stine......."Driving to Dallas" with Pats and John on the floor boards. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Ruthee!" Posted by Policedog on 19:09:45 5/17/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:09:45, 5/17/2000 So now it's a bite of dinner on the keyboard... and the screen, and I was so glad there were other people around (you know who) to enjoy your post with me. Edited to add: That's one hell of a visual! ROFLMAO!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Contemptible!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 08:43:05 5/17/2000 ...those two whitened sepulchres filled with the rotting bones of their baby daughter! A pox on any "Christian" minister who gives a platform to those filthy murderers. ROFL, Cass -- will they bring various Paughs forward for healing? Will Pammy's left leg grow two inches? Will Susan Stine caress a rattlesnake? Oops! I forgot. Susan Stine IS the rattlesnake. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "I predict..." Posted by Bailey38 on 08:38:32 5/17/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 08:38:32, 5/17/2000 this interview.. Patsy: Well, all the legal costs have virtually bankrupted us (message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address) and we've had to struggle because we are a God-fearing family that would never harm our children(message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address) Pam in the background..Amen Sister Patsy! (message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address) John: If you believe in us, the parents of a murdered child (message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address)..help us find the killer. Patsy: And if you want to join the $1000.00 club and have a complete membership (message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address)..We'll send you a piece of the EXACT rope used to bind the child, blessed by us. Sorry, only the $10,000.00 pledges get a piece of tape. The Lord works in mysterious ways you know. (message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address) John: And Patsy don't forget the exact replicias of the talent medal...blessed also by JonBenet's spirit(message at the bottom of the screen...send money to this address) cassie..*LOL*..loved the hand waving! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Bailey38 ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "LOL " Posted by Cassandra on 08:58:38 5/17/2000 Patsy and John can caress my Iguana! Bright green with black and white striped tail. Definitely a Versace inspired ensemble, from the "Spring Iguana Collection"! I just got the best shot yet, on the bank, against the water. I don't know if the tail showed, though. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "They have no shame" Posted by Mrsrick on 08:47:15 5/17/2000 I am a christian and have been for many years. There are very few "TV evangelists" that I would watch. I prefer to support my local church and the evangelist's and missionaries that come through and share their ministries with us. Some of them (most actually) have hearts of gold. I am appalled by the Ramseys going on TV again. Someone should tell them that everytime they appear on television they come off looking worse and worse to the world. I also wanted to say that the excellent quote, "A fool and his money are soon parted" is not found in the scriptures. It is a quote by Thomas Tusser. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Thank you MrsRic" Posted by Paralegal on 11:53:18 5/17/2000 >I am a christian and have been >for many years. Me too There are >very few "TV evangelists" that I >would watch. Me too I prefer to >support my local church and the >evangelist's and missionaries that come through >and share their ministries with us. > Some of them (most actually) >have hearts of gold. As do alot of non-celeb Christians >I am appalled by the Ramseys going >on TV again. Someone should tell >them that everytime they appear on >television they come off looking worse >and worse to the world. Let them go on tv and look bad, it will help when they're prosecuted >I also wanted to say that the >excellent quote, "A fool and his >money are soon parted" is not >found in the scriptures. It >is a quote by Thomas Tusser. > Thank you MrsRic for clarifying that. Remember that ole saying around the church, Don't just talk the talk, walk the walk? I think this is the most appropriate quote for the Rams, even if God didn't say it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Talk Candidly???" Posted by tinky on 08:55:41 5/17/2000 too bad they don't try that with a polygraph examiner. They are full of it. If they think by "cleansing their souls" on TV, they are going to be granted entrance into heaven, they are sadly mistaken. For Burke's sake, they should shut-up and go away. But it seems they just can't do that. Oh well, let them keep talking, because each time they do, they something that contradicts an earlier statement they have made. I just can't understand why they keep doing this. Why the need to be front-and-center all the time. Burke must be sick of all the attention. I can only imagine what the other kids say to him. And if the R's think they aren't teasing him, they are mistaken. Shut the #$%^ up you stupid people!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "This disgusts me," Posted by Ev on 09:34:12 5/17/2000 but in my heart of hearts, I feel that if they keep up these appearances, eventually they are going to say too many contradicting things and finally they will be nailed. Don't think the police aren't monitoring these appearances very carefully. Since they aren't talking to the police, this is all they have for now. Bring on the blab, and make yourselves look even more stupid than before! Some people may be fooled by their Christian professions, but God knows all, and this truly gives all Christians a bad name. Several years ago I almost ran right into that Dr. Robert Schuller (Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove)when his white limo pulled up in front of my feet at the Honolulu Airport, and out stepped the tanned, well-coiffed, diamond ring studded man. I know he has to be paid for what he does, but I have never personally known any religious leader who needed all that frivolous stuff to spread the Good Word. It just rubs me the wrong way, but that's my problem, I guess. Closer, and closer to an arrest (in my dreams, at least!). [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Ev" Posted by Sioux on 10:12:43 5/17/2000 "Several years ago I almost ran right into that Dr. Robert Schuller (Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove)when his white limo pulled up in front of my feet at the Honolulu Airport, and out stepped the tanned, well-coiffed, diamond ring studded man. I know he has to be paid for what he does, but I have never personally known any religious leader who needed all that frivolous stuff to spread the Good Word. It just rubs me the wrong way, but that's my problem, I guess." I feel the same way. BTW, I live near the Cristal Cathedral and could never understand why in the worls is so overated. It's a pompous and horrible show of human vanity. Distateful to say the least. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "hahahahahahahahhahahaha" Posted by Holly on 09:32:48 5/17/2000 hah! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "this is the equivalent of " Posted by Edie Pratt on 10:33:35 5/17/2000 OJ going down to the "hood" for barbequed ribs. Sadly, it's a slap in the face to REAL Christians. What they're basically saying is the Christian community is one that's gullible and stupid, that they'll buy anything anyone who steps infront of the pulpit says. I certainly hope the interviewer will ask the Good Deacon Ram$ey to quote scripture. "uh,uh,uh. uh,uh..." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Puke...Puke...Puke" Posted by Pretzel on 10:35:59 5/17/2000 It will be Vomit Day, as well as, Ha! Ha! Day, Holly! It is really bad that they hide behind the skirts of the CHURCH! It hurts all Christians when people see this kind of stuff happening. Yuck! Pretzel [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Pretzel ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "ROFL" Posted by Seashell on 11:02:20 5/17/2000 The Rams will again be speaking in forked tongues. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Yeeks! " Posted by Greenleaf on 11:13:48 5/17/2000 prayer: "An act of communion with God, a god, or another object of worship, such as in devotion, confession, praise, or thanksgiving." I cannot imagine that JR and PR are "communicating" with the God I know. I cannot believe that JR and PR have the nerve to call themselves "Christians." They follow their egos; not Christ. They desire that their names be restored; not their souls. They are living examples of which roads not to take. They will, inadvertently, expose any and all phoney TV Preachers who toot their horns. They are shells; all hallow, shallow and despicable. You can call me names, Gemini, but I am not afraid to express my opinions. It may seem funny to you but I am passionate about little kids being abused and murdered. All roads lead to the Rams. Not even a little path or walkway leads to an intruder. All roads lead to the Rams. I repeat: ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE RAMS. Go ahead, Mr. Preacher Man, put them on your phoney baloney TV program and call yourselves "Christians." Anyone who would coddle the likes of the Rams are not Christians. Toss them a few power puff questions and tell them how mistreated they are. Hold their hands and "PRAY." The force will be with you, but it won't be the force for good. Go ahead. People need to see full blown "Christian" hypocrisy. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "I live in Euless!" Posted by chebrock on 10:39:52 5/17/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 10:39:52, 5/17/2000 Oh my God. I live in Euless! I consider it my duty to do something when they are here or maybe before. I haven't even read the whole thread. Please email me with ideas. Anyone else nearby who might help me with this? What would MAME do? chebrock1@aol.com [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "It would have been nice if" Posted by fiddler on 11:47:53 5/17/2000 God had done a little more sustaining of JonBenet when He had the chance, is all I can say. And thank goodness for all those non-Christian, non-God-fearing people the Lord has obviously provided specifically for the Ramseys to take out their frustration on, like Linda Hoffman-Pugh and her husband, Bill and Janet McReynolds, Chris Wolf, Jeff Merrick, Judith Phillips, Fleet and Priscilla White, the Boulder Police, and all the citizens of Boulder. John and Patsy could never have endured their horrible persecution, otherwise. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Christian Expectations" Posted by BusDriver on 11:51:56 5/17/2000 I must admit to having been a Christian all of my life. Having been a Catholic for 35 years, I turned to Methodism when I got divorced and remarried. My early days in Catholic school trained me to ask a lot of "what if" kinds of questions. We used to ask these questions and drive the nuns crazy. Questions like: 1). If you eat meat on Friday but don't think it's meat, is it a sin? and 2). If you went to confession and stole a candy bar on the way home and got run over by a bus and killed -- would you go to heaven or hell? So, with this kind of training, I tend to ask myself questions about what will happen to the Ramseys when they go to the great hereafter. It seems to me that Christian teaching would not require a guilty Patsy and John to confess to the police. Rather, I think that it would require sincere contrition, and some attempt (however feeble it may be) at atonement through a life of humility and good works. Having said that, I will tell you what bothers me as a Christian about the behvior of Patsy and John. I am convinced that they at least covered up the murder of their daughter and may have murdered her. And yet, I don't feel outraged that they have not confessed to the crime(s) and gone to jail -- even despite the horror of the crime. What does outrage me is that they continue to parade themselves in the public eye as innocent people for attention and profit. To me, this is rubbing salt in the wound. I don't believe that they feel contrite and I can't see that they are making any attempt to atone for their misdeeds. I don't know if I believe in the traditional heaven and hell. But, if there is a hell, it has to be waiting for the Ramseys. They may have escaped the police; they may have escaped the DA; they may have escaped the Grand Jury. But, even Hal Haddon is not going to get them out of hell. BD [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Bus Driver, I'll ride your" Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:25:53 5/17/2000 bus, I think. I'm a Buddhist, and I believe these people are as acceptable as any other human beings. I also believe they'll "get theirs" when they die. I believe they'll reincarnate as two jackasses, if justice is served. My problem is I want to satisfy one of my vices. I wish to see them squirm in a courtroom for many months and then be found guilty of their lovely, little girl's death. I want to see them ostracized by any and all who meet them (kinda the OJ syndrome). Mostly, I want to feel justified in my belief they are guilty by having it proven in a courtroom. Oh, and it would be nice if Patsy "broke down" during the trial and admitted her guilt. Wouldn't it be wonderful? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Oh my gosh" Posted by Msracoon on 12:44:32 5/17/2000 I just got home, getting my lunch as I log on for news and what do I see? First, this thread and then my lunch all over the keyboard. Ha! My only comment here is: God is God and none other. I will NOT judge someone else's soul but I will share with you the scripture that comes to me that God said in His Word: "test the spirits". To me that is the bottom line. Nothing surprises me any more. We are living in evil days. The enemy (satan) comes masked as an angel of light (that is also written). He is a liar. He is the father of ALL lies. He has always been a liar and will always be a liar. How will we know the difference between the truth and the liar? Test the spirits. Always, always, always. It's taken me many years and a lot of pain to even come close to knowing the difference (depends on how much I pray as to how much He lets me know) but that is what is the answer for me. Test, test, test. Just because someone says they are something does not make it so. Stop, look and listen. Oh, yes it's been a long and painful journey for me - listening to words and lies and finding out the difference later. What's my take on all of this? Don't really have one. I'm gonna just keep on testin', and laughing at the devil. He is SUCH a liar, isn't he? Oh yes, stating that one is a Christian is E A S Y. Love to all, Ms.Racoon [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "gaiabetsy " Posted by BusDriver on 12:34:18 5/17/2000 Perhaps they will be reincarnated as two beautiful and talented little rich girls. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "BusDriver" Posted by Chris on 13:14:24 5/17/2000 ...with a mama who's a dried up beauty queen and a papa who can't remember anything. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Chris" Posted by BusDriver on 13:16:23 5/17/2000 Just what I had in mind. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "They have no respect for....." Posted by olivia on 13:51:15 5/17/2000 ...anyone or anything! I have lurked on this forum and the BNf since the beginning. I rarely if ever post, but I am so disgusted with them that I am jumping out of my lurking mode. These people really think that the world is so stupid that their statics will convince anyone that they are innocent. Not turning over evidence, refusing to answer questions, not taking a lie detector test, going on national tv to help them get on with their life, help us catch the killer by buying our book-give me a break!!! And now - going on a religious talk show - that is beyond contempt! Do they realize they have broken every commandment? Remember Patsy and John, "God knows who you are." A true Christian would be more concerned about his/her soul - not the outward appearance of this life. Going on TV is not going to save your soul. And to all the "wonderful" people that have helped them evade and twist the truth - you are just as quilty. How long is this misjustice going to be allowed to continue? I apologize in advance for my venting - but I am so disgusted with them and the Boulder justice - or should I say misjustice - system that it was time for me to let my voice be heard. Thanks for listening! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL olivia ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "gaia" Posted by Sioux on 13:38:20 5/17/2000 They won't be reicarnated. Even the karmic wheel has a limit and they are at the bottom of the line as SPIRITUAL INSECTS. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "..murder in their house" Posted by Nikki on 14:45:07 5/17/2000 ..how can they both do this thing? ..is this a joke to them...the fact she died there, so alone and..in their house? ..somehow I think that after the darkness floods the rooms and the shadows come out of their hiding places ..she is still there ..but where are her parents? ..hanging loose and happily splashing their faces across America and on the tube.. ..this is a sad thing and somehow a bad thing, ..and it figures. ..JFJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Being a Christian I am offended" Posted by Colorado-an on 16:35:44 5/17/2000 by the Ramsey's latest ploy for attention. I guess they have not learned you cannot merely talk the talk but you have to walk the walk. Reminds me of this.... If you have to tell someone you have class maybe ??? well you know what I mean. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "I don't know about this" Posted by dixie on 17:06:03 5/17/2000 ...but I don't think that family Christian values include transvestite partys, turning your daughter into a vegas showgirl,and being more concerned for your own safety, that you won't cooperate with police in finding the person who destroyed the life of the child God was so gracious to send to you, at some point the Holy Spirit will convicted you. JMO [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Hitler" Posted by Luvsa Mystery on 18:42:38 5/17/2000 Hitler posed as a Christian and killed millions in the name of Christ. He is just one of many who have used the same ploy, of course. How better to discredit Christ than to pose as his disciple and do vile things in His name? It was Hitler's philosophy, wasn't it? The more outrageous the truth, the less apt it is to be believed? And, the more outrageous the lie, the more apt it is to be believed? Satan does indeed masquerade as an angel of light. But Jesus said: "By their FRUITS, you will know them." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Christianity does not exist in the " Posted by SJ on 19:23:04 5/17/2000 Ramsey Realm. For those who are not Christians, please don't judge Christianity by the actions of the Ramseys and those so-called Christian outlets that are taking advantage to gain financially from a little girl's death. There is nothing Christian about it. This is a bottom line business decision, period. I am a Christian and proud of it. What these people and their cohorts are doing to Christianity is beyond contempt. I hope they rot in hell. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Luvsamystery" Posted by Msracoon on 19:22:36 5/17/2000 Tres Bien! Where have you been? Are you new to posting? Well anyway, welcome and enjoyed your post. Very profound. The truth is like that you know. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "Msracoon" Posted by Luvsa Mystery on 06:49:39 5/18/2000 Thank you for the warm newbie welcome. :D Yes! Truth is stranger than fiction. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Greenleaf" Posted by Aurora on 20:46:15 5/17/2000 I think the Ram's are guilty ...as well...but a true Christian... is supposed to love the sinner...but hate the sin. Talk about hypocrisy..how can any Christian judge them? God can see what is in their hearts...even if they preceive to us (public) to be something they are not. They can NOT fool God. They should FEAR him. What is that old saying... The road to hell is paved with good intentions.....? I am sifting through the DOI and finding out that it is alot like reading someones diary. Bits and pieces of the tapestry of their lives forming..meshing....into something really beautiful before it one day started to unravel...and became vile. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "A Prayer for the Ramseys" Posted by Anton on 22:35:59 5/17/2000 Note for gaiabetsy: I'm a Taoist and I believe firmly in the balance of positive and negative, as well as reincarnation. I truly feel sorry for the Ramseys (all of them). They apparently are not aware of what they are doing to themselves. This will become clear to them in good time. They are already suffering; the suffering began in earnest the moment JonBenet's spirit left their realm, although I suspect their suffering began long before then. As for reincarnation, I believe they will return in whatever form their spirits need. The very worst, IMO, would be for them to come back as themselves and do this all over again. FWIW, here's a prayer I can imagine them uttering at their meeting with Rev. Hellyhole. Our Father who are not in our home Hallowed be our fame. Our income sum has well begun to earn in figures over seven. Give us this day our daily press. Forgive us a death and free us from our betters. Lead us through this temptation to deliver further evil. For mine is the income and the power and the glory. In JonBenet's name we prey. Amen [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Oh, what I would give" Posted by canadiana on 22:35:14 5/17/2000 to be a fly on Haddon/et all's wall. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "opportunity" Posted by Cher on 03:49:51 5/18/2000 Funny poem, Anton. Chebrock, this is a terrific opportunity to do some reporting! I would love to hear a firsthand experience. Do you have a digital cam? Mame, Toppcat, any suggestions for Chebrock? Cher . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "tickets to Prayer meeting" Posted by chebrock on 13:52:51 5/18/2000 You will get a first hand report on what occurs at that prayer meeting. I'll take notes for sure. No media or recording devices will be allow. I have 3 tickets. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "hmmm" Posted by tamster on 05:16:07 5/18/2000 If someone from the D/FW area attended this worship service, and accidentally started shouting, "Murderers!! Murderers!!!" from the sanctuary during the interview, do you think they would be arrested? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "Tamster, Policedog, Tx_sunshine" Posted by chebrock on 07:45:09 5/18/2000 Are any of you close enough to attend the prayer meeting? Let me know. Chebrock1@aol.com [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Chebrock...." Posted by Policedog on 13:48:34 5/18/2000 Um.... maybe you should check your email box? ;-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "Tamster" Posted by Policedog on 06:30:06 5/18/2000 The worst you'd get, if anything, is a 'disorderly conduct', (but probably they'd just have you removed)... I think that it'd be well worth it. And, hey, you could always appeal it to the Supreme Court on a first amendment issue... ;-) GO FOR IT!!!!!! (And don't forget your tiara and button.) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Anton," Posted by gaiabetsy on 05:52:44 5/18/2000 The Tao Te Ching is my bible! Cool. I agree with what you said. They'll have to come back as whatever they need to be to work through their own personal difficulties from one incarnation to the next. Let's put it this way, no way they'll reach enlightenment in this life or probably several others. I see them as hungry ghosts never able to satiate their voracious appetite of the senses. It's all about money and the outward show. I look at people like this, and I can't help but wonder how they can be so lost from the truth and reality? I also don't know why they'd want to be lost. Of course, the world is filled with lost and confused souls. I keep thinking intelligent people finally wake up, but I've got to remember it takes something else much more precious than intelligence and knowledge to wake up. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "I wonder why" Posted by SDean1 on 05:46:34 5/18/2000 The Ramsey's were'nt invited to speak on the Pat Robertson's Show? Maybe he doesnt want to support suspects of a murdered child. These are not common people , your normal parent.. Common people and normal parents are not suspects in the death of thier own child. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Tamster" Posted by Chris on 05:43:21 5/18/2000 Tell them Justice Watch sent you... YOU GO GIRL! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Starry...I didn't see post about shirt" Posted by Cassandra on 13:55:58 5/18/2000 but my sister had one! Hilarious and all smeary with makeup! "I Bumped Into Tammy Faye!" LOL Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "Praise Geezuz!" Posted by Edie Pratt on 14:51:45 5/18/2000 I get that Robison show here in the NW!!!!! Twice, as a matter of fact. Does anyone know the exact date the show will air this extravaganza? Of course I will tape it and let anyone that doesn't get it, know what happened:-)Until it airs, I will also watch his show to get a feel of the format. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]