Justice Watch Discussion Board "something HINKY to make you THINKY!" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... something HINKY to make you THINKY!, Chris, 12:01:16, 5/19/2000 Well,, Phantom, 12:08:32, 5/19/2000, (#1) At This Point, Chris, 12:11:37, 5/19/2000, (#2) That's OK, Phantom, 12:15:03, 5/19/2000, (#4) Chris, Phantom, Sioux, 12:24:45, 5/19/2000, (#11) Sioux, Chris, 12:26:45, 5/19/2000, (#14) Okey chris, Sioux, 12:40:11, 5/19/2000, (#18) Sioux, Chris, 12:42:32, 5/19/2000, (#21) Yes it is worth thinking about, CommonSense, 12:13:43, 5/19/2000, (#3) Okay, I read it again, CommonSense, 12:15:59, 5/19/2000, (#5) Any way, gaiabetsy, 12:19:55, 5/19/2000, (#9) Bad memory..., Phantom, 12:17:28, 5/19/2000, (#6) Ewwww, Msracoon, 12:22:19, 5/19/2000, (#10) The Poster, Denver, 12:18:25, 5/19/2000, (#7) CommonSense, Chris, 12:19:08, 5/19/2000, (#8) Chris, Edie Pratt, 12:26:07, 5/19/2000, (#12) So..., Phantom, 12:26:36, 5/19/2000, (#13) What's My Line..., Chris, 12:31:26, 5/19/2000, (#16) light dawns..., mary99, 12:46:35, 5/19/2000, (#25) checking facts & thining aloud..., Greeality, 12:29:43, 5/19/2000, (#15) Memory Lane, Lacey, 12:35:06, 5/19/2000, (#17) Don't Forget, Denver, 12:40:24, 5/19/2000, (#19) But..., Phantom, 12:43:19, 5/19/2000, (#22) Twenty Questions Continues, CommonSense, 12:43:29, 5/19/2000, (#23) CommonSense, Chris, 12:49:24, 5/19/2000, (#27) Very interesting, Chris, Cassandra, 12:41:27, 5/19/2000, (#20) research from another forum, shana, 12:46:06, 5/19/2000, (#24) I probably shouldn't do this but . . . , CommonSense, 12:48:21, 5/19/2000, (#26) CommonSense, Chris, 12:55:24, 5/19/2000, (#31) I was afraid of that but . . ., CommonSense, 13:01:31, 5/19/2000, (#35) Oh, Cassandra,, gaiabetsy, 12:49:30, 5/19/2000, (#28) so then ..., Gemini, 13:15:22, 5/19/2000, (#41) Yikes!! ..... Chris ..... Denver!!, Slinky, 12:51:36, 5/19/2000, (#29) Slinky!, gaiabetsy, 12:55:14, 5/19/2000, (#30) OK, Edie Pratt, 13:01:03, 5/19/2000, (#34) gaiabetsy, Chris, 13:00:50, 5/19/2000, (#33) I'm certainly confused, CommonSense, 13:00:04, 5/19/2000, (#32) Chris and CommonSense, gaiabetsy, 13:08:02, 5/19/2000, (#39) I can't quit on this, CommonSense, 13:03:42, 5/19/2000, (#38) CommonSense, Chris, 13:03:03, 5/19/2000, (#37) My God!, hareen, 13:03:03, 5/19/2000, (#36) Well I hate this , Ruthee, 13:29:29, 5/19/2000, (#45) Interesting, lake, 13:27:04, 5/19/2000, (#44) For what it's worth..., CensusGrrl, 13:23:56, 5/19/2000, (#42) Those photos, lee2, 16:02:21, 5/19/2000, (#86) you already named lake, becky, 13:15:10, 5/19/2000, (#40) re read it, Edie Pratt, 13:26:13, 5/19/2000, (#43) Chris, Real Stormy, 13:44:14, 5/19/2000, (#53) Edie, CG, darby, 13:43:00, 5/19/2000, (#50) Hey,, Ev, 19:21:48, 5/19/2000, (#96) here Edie, MadT, 13:35:41, 5/19/2000, (#47) Damn, MadT, I feel as, Edie Pratt, 13:44:09, 5/19/2000, (#52) Can I ask this question?, lee2, 16:05:36, 5/19/2000, (#88) BDI=, Policedog, 16:21:14, 5/19/2000, (#90) Help!, Edie Pratt, 13:34:48, 5/19/2000, (#46) ok, dixie, 14:03:04, 5/19/2000, (#62) Well, lake, 13:47:12, 5/19/2000, (#54) Chris, becky, 13:43:23, 5/19/2000, (#51) C'mon, Edie, , gaiabetsy, 13:42:44, 5/19/2000, (#49) sorry GB, Edie Pratt, 13:49:30, 5/19/2000, (#55) This is fun!, mary99, 13:59:24, 5/19/2000, (#60) MadT and Edie, shana, 13:41:03, 5/19/2000, (#48) Thank you, shana, maxi, 14:13:44, 5/19/2000, (#66) maxi, shana, 14:15:55, 5/19/2000, (#70) yes Shana, MadT, 13:58:41, 5/19/2000, (#57) MadT, becky, 14:01:02, 5/19/2000, (#61) who is tom haney, becky, 13:50:06, 5/19/2000, (#56) lol, Texan, 14:15:30, 5/19/2000, (#69) Chris, FT, 13:59:13, 5/19/2000, (#59) The poster, lake, 13:59:01, 5/19/2000, (#58) Hey, lake, janphi, 15:43:03, 5/19/2000, (#83) His ID, Denver, 14:05:16, 5/19/2000, (#64) how about just one, becky, 14:03:22, 5/19/2000, (#63) Well..., fran, 14:19:30, 5/19/2000, (#72) Well Let's see..........., AuntieBJ, 14:11:34, 5/19/2000, (#65) Help us, Jesus, Seashell, 14:39:09, 5/19/2000, (#75) Just to make..., Byron, 14:35:17, 5/19/2000, (#74) Oh,, Phantom, 14:15:20, 5/19/2000, (#68) sigh.., becky, 14:13:53, 5/19/2000, (#67) Okay - Here We Go, CommonSense, 14:19:26, 5/19/2000, (#71) Bill Ritter, CommonSense, 14:27:22, 5/19/2000, (#73) ĒS, Seashell, 14:44:30, 5/19/2000, (#77) Don't talk to me about contacting authorities, Ruthee, 14:39:11, 5/19/2000, (#76) Gee Ruthee, Denver, 14:52:30, 5/19/2000, (#78) Denver & Ruthee, Chris, 15:07:44, 5/19/2000, (#80) Ritter and G2, shana, 14:59:56, 5/19/2000, (#79) FOR GOD SAKE MAN...., becky, 15:20:45, 5/19/2000, (#82) my memory may be fading..., Byron, 15:12:12, 5/19/2000, (#81) uh, Gemini, 16:08:07, 5/19/2000, (#89) Byron, Ruthee,, listener, 16:02:44, 5/19/2000, (#87) Byron - Leeza, shana, 15:59:23, 5/19/2000, (#84) .... Leeza...., Policedog, 16:01:45, 5/19/2000, (#85) LOL, Lacey, 18:33:00, 5/19/2000, (#91) LOL II, darby, 18:40:46, 5/19/2000, (#92) III, Lacey, 19:00:01, 5/19/2000, (#93) Auntie BJ's A Candy Rose Forum..., LurkerXIV, 19:10:41, 5/19/2000, (#94) Hi, LXIV, FT, 19:16:43, 5/19/2000, (#95) could the connection be, Edie Pratt, 19:30:24, 5/19/2000, (#97) #@$%!!, LURKER XIV!, Lacey, 19:44:25, 5/19/2000, (#98) ................................................................... "something HINKY to make you THINKY!" Posted by Chris on 12:01:16 5/19/2000 (a little history for some of the newer posters) In September of 1998, right about the time the Grand Jury took on the JonBenet Ramsey case, a large group of us went to Boulder. Before our arrival, an offer arrived via email to one of the people attending. The offer was made by a former poster. Following are excerpts from three emails where this former poster talks about the invitation. Now on the lighter side, while MsBrady etal are in town, my wife and I would like to host a meeting between any of the following: Chris Wheeler/ You/ Questioner/Ruthee/Lake/Betsy and a close friend of ours that is very familiar with the facts of this case. Together we might actually influence the outcome of this case. My telephone number is: 303-nnn-nnnn Please call me to arrange but of course our number is for your information only. If Questioner can be there, even more perfect. CensusGirl is very sharp. Her pictures of JonBenet's neck are important evidence. I am 99.9% sure that my Burke+JR/PR cover-up hypothesis is correct. I would like to keep this meeting small and private. You, Ruthee, and Chris would be perfect. Make a list of ? you(all) would like the GJ to ask and any research that would provide background for the ? Sorry to be so Machiavellian. W hen we meet I will explain it. I am not a witness at the GJ and the (initials) in my last post is NOT Alex. Did you ever follow up on the (company) ?'s My goal for this meeting is to provide you with an opportunity to present your understanding(s) of the case to someone that is in a position to present them to the GJ. I am certain that everyone involved wants to stay private. We never met with the poster because we had no desire to participate in something that sounded to us like it was shady (among other things) and creepy , not to mention could be construed as interferring with a sitting GJ. Fast forward to March 2000. During a conversation with 'Bridget' we were discussing some of the connections in this case. (I want to be careful here, not to betray some of the things she told me about this person). I remember asking her about someone in her family and she mentioned a name. I nearly fell out of my chair. The person who 'Bridget' named was the same person who sent those emails that are excerpted above. It's important to understand that we never mentioned the name to "Bridget". She brought it up to us. Worth thinking about? [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Well," Posted by Phantom on 12:08:32 5/19/2000 who was the poster? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "At This Point" Posted by Chris on 12:11:37 5/19/2000 I'm really not comfortable naming the former poster, by either hat or by name. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "That's OK" Posted by Phantom on 12:15:03 5/19/2000 Just hard to think about when I don't know who I'm thinking about! :-)And yes, SOMETHING seems weird. Wish I knew what or who tho..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Chris, Phantom" Posted by Sioux on 12:24:45 5/19/2000 **Just hard to think about when I don't know who I'm thinking about!** Exactly. Listen Chris, phantom is right. I understand your good intentions because if I were in your position I would probably do the same thing: Give the info I have without compromising investigation,innocent people , etc. But I am not in your position, I am in MY position, and from here, it's all very SUGGESTIVE but nothing else. I can't fall from the chair YOU were sitting when YOU heard the name. I was not there and I don't have the smallest clue of who in the heck we are talking about. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Sioux" Posted by Chris on 12:26:45 5/19/2000 I'm not asking you to fall out of your chair. I'm just asking you to think. And I'm telling you a small part to why I have wanted to know more about MW's allegations. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Okey chris" Posted by Sioux on 12:40:11 5/19/2000 baby I'm thinking and thinking and the whole thing gets weirder and weirder. So this ex- poster had info and choosed the internet sleuths to DELIVER it? Why? Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Sioux" Posted by Chris on 12:42:32 5/19/2000 To Clarify, this poster never mentioned 'Bridget' or anything to do with 'Bridget'. If you believe the poster's emails, they wanted to influence the outcome of the grand jury, and felt they had the connections to do so. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Yes it is worth thinking about" Posted by CommonSense on 12:13:43 5/19/2000 So 'Bridget' knew (or knew of)one of the JW posters, by name, before she came to Boulder? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Okay, I read it again" Posted by CommonSense on 12:15:59 5/19/2000 So, 'Bridget' has a family member that was a regular at JW prior to 'Bridget' coming to Boulder? And this JW regular was so interested and supposedly involved with muckity (I have no idea how to spell this) mucks that this JW regular claimed that he/she could get information before the GJ? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Any way" Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:19:55 5/19/2000 to get back in touch with this person? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Bad memory..." Posted by Phantom on 12:17:28 5/19/2000 or I think I'd remember, if the name was said before. (I think I remember the mention of the email or possible email person or meeting before.but....Oh well) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Ewwww" Posted by Msracoon on 12:22:19 5/19/2000 Chris, I just had a really creepy feeling that I know who the email author was. Ewwww. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "The Poster" Posted by Denver on 12:18:25 5/19/2000 The former poster MW was referring to was also a poster on the old J7. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "CommonSense" Posted by Chris on 12:19:08 5/19/2000 Let's see, how to explain: 'Bridget' had no idea why I was falling out of my chair. In other words, she didn't know that saying that name to me would have me fall out of my chair. 'Bridget' had no idea this poster was active on the Internet. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Chris" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:26:07 5/19/2000 is this poster still around somewhere? Was the poster in question asked to leave JW? And, finally, is this poster a relative of Bridgit's? Oh, one more, did the poster who sent the emails give their real name, or was it the hat that Bridgit mentioned? Thanks in advance:-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "So..." Posted by Phantom on 12:32:48 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:32:48, 5/19/2000 This poster knew, or was a relative of MW's? Edited to add, or of course the poster knew someone who knew somwone.....? What is the interest in a GJ person? To influence who to what...? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "What's My Line..." Posted by Chris on 12:31:26 5/19/2000 reminds me of that old show. Let me try... is this poster still around somewhere? Not to my knowledge. Although I suspect this poster posted on the short-lived, recent reincarnation of the Boulder News Forum. is this poster a relative of Bridgit's? Yes Oh, one more, did the poster who sent the emails give their real name, or was it the hat that Bridgit mentioned? Their real name. And that is the name that Bridget mentioned. She didn't know anything about the 'hats' this person used or this person's level of activity on the Internet. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "light dawns..." Posted by mary99 on 13:28:49 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:28:49, 5/19/2000 hmmm, a former poster who wanted the folks at JW to exchange feedback with someone who would be appearing before the GJ... Someone who had an interest in furthering the BR+JR/PR coverup theory...who wanted the JW forum to have an opportunity to possibly influence the outcome of the case... Someone related to Bridget who was interested in making 'justice for JonBenet' happen...? Nope. The opposite. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "checking facts & thining aloud..." Posted by Greeality on 12:29:43 5/19/2000 So interesting - this person lives in (303) area and is a relative of Bridget, and had contacts with someone who would be interviewed by the GJ. (Just checking - that above is FACT, correct?) You mention that this 'poster' believed in a BR/JR with PR coverup - but did the poster tie in any type of ritual abuse stuff? More to my point - is it possible that the poster's motive (in somehow getting things to the GJ) was to DIVERT to GJ INTO this line of thought (BR/JR) therefore away from an actual perp? Thinking aloud.... By the way Chris - from a 'newbie' - thanks for the background. and for all you do.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Memory Lane" Posted by Lacey on 12:35:06 5/19/2000 LOL this gets weirder and weirder. I remember him. Partners in crime with G2. Eyyyye-yi-yi... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Don't Forget" Posted by Denver on 12:40:24 5/19/2000 Don't forget that Mystery Poster's inside source at the BPD was Tom Haney. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "But..." Posted by Phantom on 12:43:19 5/19/2000 Back then was a long time before MW came into the picture.... Was the poster trying to meet with other posters, for a reason? About the other posters or how to get in the know about who's doing what in the case? Or to spread info-right or wrong...??? Or trying to fing out if MW had talked already..? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Twenty Questions Continues" Posted by CommonSense on 12:43:29 5/19/2000 If you were to post the real name of the former JW regular would the majority of us recognize this name as someone connected to the case? How did you first learn the poster's real name? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "CommonSense" Posted by Chris on 12:49:24 5/19/2000 If you were to post the real name of the former JW regular would the majority of us recognize this name as someone connected to the case? Probably just forum veterans. His real name is not connected to the case except by his activity on the Internet. How did you first learn the poster's real name? When he sent those emails. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Very interesting, Chris" Posted by Cassandra on 12:41:27 5/19/2000 This case is a web of intrigue, but who is the big spider sitting in the center pulling all the strings? Creepy is right! Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "research from another forum" Posted by shana on 12:46:06 5/19/2000 Is this the poster researched with a possible link to MW's family by marriage? Or more specifically, "The widow of XXX's father is the MW's grandmother"? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "I probably shouldn't do this but . . . " Posted by CommonSense on 12:48:21 5/19/2000 At least we aren't all fighting - not yet anyway - From another Board - I have NO idea if there is any connection but . . . BobC Member posted 05-18-2000 09:28 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks hergus. But if I'd known Chris would have thought I was knocking her or the hospitality she has shown us, instead of three specific posters, I would have kept my mouth shut. I only used the forum name because I didn't want to name people by name. It also bothers me that my "Good news' has been thrown in my face for the ten thousandth time. They all know where that came from and that was as close to ground zero as you can get. They know but still posted like I just pulled it out of the air to be a bigshot. I was just extremely happy and excited! In all the vindictiveness it's been lost that I started out that post with this sentence: "I thought this case was over--but I was wrong! Dead F'ing wrong!" I said that because ALL my sources were saying no way in hell. When I recieved my "Good News" I went blank. I just thought you know--I've dogged Hunter this whole time and shot off my big mouth and that guy has showed me! I don't think it's a big secret that one of my main spies is in law enforcement and I learned the hard way that when someone tells me something--even if he or she is at ground zero--it's still just their opinion or take on things. They can be wrong. I also apologised how many times for getting peoples' hopes up? And it's not like I wasn't devastated as well when Hunter said "no indictments at this time." I felt like I'd been kicked in the stomach. Nobody on this Earth has invested more time than I have in this F'ed up case. But to have my intentions and good will intentionally cast in a misleading shadow is ... uh, depressing. No one will believe this but I had no clue what a firestorm I set off by saying great news was coming. I was bouncing off the walls and never even considered that because I am not a Hunter fan, that I should attack this good news out of ego that I thought Hunter was an asshole! I was thrilled to be wrong! [This message has been edited by BobC (edited 05-18-2000).] [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "CommonSense" Posted by Chris on 12:55:24 5/19/2000 There is absolutely no connection between that post and any of this. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "I was afraid of that but . . ." Posted by CommonSense on 13:01:31 5/19/2000 It will give the two of you something to laugh about - maybe that will be the beginning of making-up?????? Please???? :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Oh, Cassandra," Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:49:30 5/19/2000 that's what it feels like, doesn't it? Lots of manipulation. I sometimes feel like I'm wading through a morass or incredible help with direction. It seems like someone or something keeps trying to pull me away from what appears to be the correct and logical path to take about this case and shown an altogether inappropriate path for me to follow. Alex Hunter is good at that. We all remember how he used Shapiro to do his dirty work. Makes me wonder, not just about Alex, but certainly about all those lawyers and investigators the Rams hired. It feels like someone doesn't want us to follow certain paths of questioning. I bet ST felt the same way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "so then ..." Posted by Gemini on 13:15:22 5/19/2000 this must be the guy G2 hooked up with (since Lacey already opened that can of worms). Isn't that connection rumored to have something to do with The Star's "Burke story"? Chris, I think your intuition to walk right away from that was flawless. And, he's related to MW, eh? Question (let's see how cryptic I can get with this one): Is this "relative" friendlier with MW or with other members of her family ... like, say, her mother? or do you know? This all sounds like someone with close ties to the GJ (read that law enforcement or prosecutior's team) was not adverse to a spot of manipulation. This seems very twisted. Need to think about it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Yikes!! ..... Chris ..... Denver!!" Posted by Slinky on 12:51:36 5/19/2000 I've got it!! I know who the poster is, and I'm pretty sure that he actually did come into chat twice that I can recall about a year ago! Yikes!! What a small, small world it is! Slinky [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Slinky!" Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:55:14 5/19/2000 come one, guys, who is it? Oh, this is so unfair! I wasn't part of the forum then. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "OK" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:01:03 5/19/2000 what EXACTLY was this relative of Bridgit's after by trying to get a meeting with you all? Chris, did you ever feel strange about this poster before he/she sent the email? Did any of us fight with this poster, or was he/she well liked? I came here almost 2 yrs ago,(I think), and the only poster I can recall that seemed at all iffy, has since left by invitation. Oh, I am soooo confused lately... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "gaiabetsy" Posted by Chris on 13:00:50 5/19/2000 The 'who' isn't as important as they 'why' I don't think. If you weren't here then, even if we posted the hats and/or name of the person it wouldn't mean much. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "I'm certainly confused" Posted by CommonSense on 13:00:04 5/19/2000 My first thought is that this former JW poster (whoever it was), used his family connections to taint the memory of 'Bridget,'or to get her to come out in order to direct the case away from the real killer. From what you've said, this poster was a Burke did it fan. So if my first thought is correct, this poster would still be trying to direct attention from the real killer by indirectly, through family or acquaintances, getting Bridget involved. Again, I'm confused. But at least, this is some EVIDENCE of something hinky. If Bridget has a connection to someone who has posted about JonBenet there is at least a lead from which we can proceed to have a civil discussion. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Chris and CommonSense" Posted by gaiabetsy on 13:08:02 5/19/2000 Look, Chris, I'm also interested in the why, but I want a chance to go back through archives and search elsewhere for myself to investigate about this person. Because I wasn't around at the time I might never "sleuth out" who this person is, so I can move on. Come on, whatdaya say....... Commonsense, a Burke-did-it fan, huh? I'm thinking. Has this person posted on Webbsleuths? Give me that much. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "I can't quit on this" Posted by CommonSense on 13:03:42 5/19/2000 Okay, did you ever tell the Boulder Police, Steve Thomas, the DA's office, M. Cane, anyone in a position of authority about the e-mails and now the connection to Bridget. And, we're all trying to figure out what the connection is. What do you think it is Chris? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "CommonSense" Posted by Chris on 13:03:03 5/19/2000 (treading on tender ground here...) Let me put it this way...it's my understanding that this ex-poster has been involved in some of the efforts to intimidate Bridget, to discourage her from coming forward. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "My God!" Posted by hareen on 13:03:03 5/19/2000 Thank you, Chris! I've strongly suspected there are many things most of us don't know behind MW's tale. I really appreciate your telling us one of them. I remember the poster. Boy, my mind is going crazy. I have to wonder how much of the Burke-did-it stuff in the tabs was directly or indirectly due to a concerted effort on the part of this person or others. Wow! Can you say if you gave this information to the police? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Well I hate this " Posted by Ruthee on 13:29:29 5/19/2000 I know who the person is. Obviously I knew about him since he wanted to meet with me and others. Those concerned agreed not to meet with the person, and It was my choice not to have anything to do with him. I got bad vibes and told Mr. Ruthee about it. Mr. Ruthee informed me that I would not be allowed to go to Boulder with out him and he closed the business and went with me. Mr. Ruthee stayed with our group the entire time. I had no knowledge of Jane Doe or any connection between the White's and Jane Doe if it does exist. I just knew that I wanted nothing to do with this person. I now realize why he narrowed his list down to Denver, Chris and me. I did not understand that connection then. I believe these circumstances are the reason why I freaked out when a Ford Ranger pulled up in front of Patsy J's as we waited outside to be seated. As I think back now, I wonder if these circumstances caused me to have a strong impression that a shovel surrounded the case. I'd like to add that even though I am aware of the circumstances discussed by Chris in the e-mails and the following events, I still believe that the Ramseys are involved in the murder and staging of the crime scene of JonBenet. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Interesting" Posted by lake on 13:27:04 5/19/2000 This poster came on pushing the Burke did it and parents covered up theory in 98 when I had backed off that theory. My sense in 98 was that there was an unknown to the public connection to the Whites in the murder of JBR. In first year of this case, the misinformation, lies and fabrications leaked to the media by the investigation caused everone to follow false trails. And there were 3 false trails laid out by the leakers. And they were all Ramsey trails. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "For what it's worth..." Posted by CensusGrrl on 13:23:56 5/19/2000 ...those pictures mentioned way up top are still on my hard disk and I can repost them if anybody wants to see. My take on the sitch involving them was this. People kept saying that if JBR was having a ligature put on her on any regular basis, you ought to be able to see marks sometimes in the pictures of her. Well, I happened to be watching one of the news magazines, or maybe it was the crock, and they showed an early pic of JBR before the pageant fluff. I thought I saw two red line marks on her neck, like the traces of a ligature. But they couldn't be skin folds, because they were on a side of her neck that was being stretched because of her head turning a certain way. So I captured them from the video, and posted them. There was a little attention, then it faded away. Whatev. Decide for yourself. http://www.mindspring.com/~censusgrrl/jbr/neck.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 86. "Those photos" Posted by lee2 on 16:02:21 5/19/2000 I have seen that photo before. Personally - I can't tell if there are marks on her neck - but I have to say this . . . if any picture of JonBenet "gets" to me - it's this one . . . I look at it - and think how could any parent allow this innocent little child to be trussed up with bottled blonde hair and grown-up outfits for a pageant circuit. When I see this picture I only hope for one thing - that everyone can put aside the pride surrounding their "theories" and unilaterally continue to search for the real truth. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "you already named lake" Posted by becky on 13:34:12 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:34:12, 5/19/2000 Who else ever supported the burke did it theory? Oh my goodness, I've never seen those pictures before. There is such a depth of sadness in her eyes. Where did you get those photos? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "re read it" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:26:13 5/19/2000 it's a man with hat initials "AH"? He mentioned his initials not being Alex. Am I warm? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "Chris" Posted by Real Stormy on 13:44:14 5/19/2000 I hope that at the time this happened you reported it to the authorities. Sounds like attempted Grand Jury tampering to me. This is a very serious matter. I would like to know in what context MW mentioned this person. I'm not asking you to tell me, I don't think you should. But I do think you should report it to the authorities, if you have not done so. Of course, by all accounts, some of the Boulder authorities read this forum, so they probably know by now. It is likely you will be receiving a call from them. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "Edie, CG" Posted by darby on 13:43:00 5/19/2000 Edie--I'm trying to figure out the AH as well--it sounds like this is the person the poster knew who would be talking to and could influence the GJ, as opposed to the poster himself--unless I'm reading it wrong, as the person is quite cryptic. Lake--do you know this person personally? Were you ever invited to anyone's house in Denver? CG--Could be. I also have noticed a large number of JBR pics featuring her sporting "chokers" and turtlenecks. In fact, I've mentioned this a number of times on the forum. Many of JBR's pageant outfits featured a neck covering. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 96. "Hey," Posted by Ev on 19:21:48 5/19/2000 Patsy has really been covering up her neck lately too, to the point of it's looking ridiculous. Do you suppose..........???? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "here Edie" Posted by MadT on 13:35:41 5/19/2000 From Ruthee's post: "As I think back now, I wonder if these circumstances caused me to have a strong impression that a shovel surrounded the case." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Damn, MadT, I feel as" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:44:09 5/19/2000 thick as a brick! I read Ruthee's post and the shovel theory way back when and now, but for the life of me, what does a shovel have to do with mystery poster? A caretaker? Farmer? Excavator? Fisherman looking for nightcrawlers? Please, MadT, enlighten me. I have a tendency to wear blinders, and most Burkedoneit theories went in one eye and out the other. Lake is the only BDI that sticks around long enough to give everyone the clear picture of his identity, and I don't mean real name and address. I barely remember GSquared, or her theory, so that doesn't help. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 88. "Can I ask this question?" Posted by lee2 on 16:05:36 5/19/2000 In the world of acronyms - or at least the acronyms according the JW - what does the acronym BDI stand for? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 90. "BDI=" Posted by Policedog on 16:21:14 5/19/2000 Burke did it. Now can we move to the #2 thread? I'm gettign a headache trying to find the new posts on this thread. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Help!" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:34:48 5/19/2000 is there any way we can read this poster's posts? Are they in an accessible archive? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "ok" Posted by dixie on 14:03:04 5/19/2000 So was the BR/did it a red herring so that the info about MW would never be heard or told? Was the GJ sposed to believe that Br did this and there for close this case and move on? so that we wouuld not be here today hearing about the child sex abuse ring? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Well" Posted by lake on 13:47:12 5/19/2000 This poster was suspose to be "in" with Tom Haney. Was it not Tom Haney's son that hung himself less than a year ago? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Chris" Posted by becky on 13:43:23 5/19/2000 I mean no disrespect...and I know that you have to watch what you put out on the forum, but I get the distinct impression we are being played with here, in regards to the identity of the MW's mother niece and relatives. It's clearly not a secret...someone please let it slip who her mother is...clearly, we on the forum will be the last to know. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "C'mon, Edie, " Posted by gaiabetsy on 13:42:44 5/19/2000 is it the gardener? Or did the butler do it? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "sorry GB" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:49:30 5/19/2000 they DID have a gardener. I didn't even think about him, but now I will! .....naw. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "This is fun!" Posted by mary99 on 13:59:24 5/19/2000 Ruthee, was it a shovel or a poker? Please Chris, lay your cards on the table! :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "MadT and Edie" Posted by shana on 13:41:03 5/19/2000 A shovel you say? Not one of four suits? ;-) I'm sure his posts are in some of the net archives and I may have them on disk as well. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "Thank you, shana" Posted by maxi on 14:13:44 5/19/2000 I was blanking out on the name, tho I remember the story, and it was driving me nuts. I hate it when a name won't bubble to the top of my brain. I recall that this shovel person had an ulterior goal (or "inferior goal" as my kids say), rather than JfJB. I think we need to look at his interest in offering to influence the gj in the light of his desire to further that goal. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "maxi" Posted by shana on 14:15:55 5/19/2000 You're welcome. Still waiting for an answer to my post #24 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "yes Shana" Posted by MadT on 13:58:41 5/19/2000 Edie might not remember the poster. The cards reference is better. I wouldn't remember him either, because I wasn't around then, but I have recently seen his name connected with Bridget on another forum. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "MadT" Posted by becky on 14:01:02 5/19/2000 you saw his name in on another forum in reference to bridget..... in reference to what...or how about a link for the unenlightened. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "who is tom haney" Posted by becky on 13:50:06 5/19/2000 ? And I don't ever remember Betsy sporting the BDI theory...although she did have an inside track. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "lol" Posted by Texan on 14:15:30 5/19/2000 I was reading post 52 and wasn't sure at first what BDI was. I thought the poster was calling Lake a blind, dumb, idiot! Now I realize it was really Burke did it. Doh. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "Chris" Posted by FT on 13:59:13 5/19/2000 I remember this character. Did MW say that he was one of her abusers? BTW, does anyone know where to find a link to mame's first interview with MW? It doesn't appear to be on Toppcat's site. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "The poster" Posted by lake on 13:59:01 5/19/2000 Used four "hats" that I know of. And many posters who know the case know his real name. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 83. "Hey, lake" Posted by janphi on 15:43:03 5/19/2000 I'm a newbie and I know his name. I sleuthed it--doesn't everyone here do that? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "His ID" Posted by Denver on 14:05:16 5/19/2000 The mystery poster did use several hats, but his identity was known to those that he emailed with. In regard to the reference to AH...that was from a post he did, and the person is in no way associated with the case. It was just a brief comment about something else going on in his life. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "how about just one" Posted by becky on 14:04:00 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:04:00, 5/19/2000 of the hats???? Or how about a link ...or aghhhhhh are you all enjoying watching me suffer? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "Well..." Posted by fran on 14:19:30 5/19/2000 Don't we have to know 'who' it is, before we can figure out the 'why'??? Chris, do you know in what way this mystery poster wanted to influence the outcome of the GJ? Did he want the GJ to indict the R's or Burke? Does Bridgit now know that this person was a poster on the internet (JW/J7), and if so what does she think about this? Does it have any meaning or importance to her and her case? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL fran ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "Well Let's see..........." Posted by AuntieBJ on 14:16:51 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:16:51, 5/19/2000 Sounds like we are playing a game of cards. Let's see, there are Hearts, Diamonds, Clubs and Spades. Which card should we draw? The heart was on JonBenet's hand The diamond was on Patsy's finger The Club was in the back yard Where was the Spade? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 75. "Help us, Jesus" Posted by Seashell on 14:39:09 5/19/2000 OK, I don't know all his hats, but at at least 2 and here're my thoughts. Why would he want to discredit MW since MW is pointing fingers at male perps within the White family and possibly the Ramsey family, if he believes Burke is involved? If she has info to implicate Burke, I should think he'd be delighted to have her story come out - unless he himself was involved and was trying to deflect attention away from him and onto to Burke alone. That way, all adults who may have been involved would be free and Burke, innocent or guilty, would also be free due to his being underage. This lid's gonna be blown off, thanks to MW and the power of the Net. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 74. "Just to make..." Posted by Byron on 14:37:03 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:37:03, 5/19/2000 ...the newbies feel better, I have no idea who Chris is talking about either, and I'm a veteran. I'm sure I'd recognize the "hats" if they were mentioned, however. Obviously I remember G2 She was the resident "phone call maker" who was always getting into "trouble" for her efforts. She was also on the Leeza show. If it's not there yet, look for today's RMN editorial regarding the Rams/Hunter on the Boyles thread. I'm headed there now to type it up (will be awhile) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "Oh," Posted by Phantom on 14:15:20 5/19/2000 I know the suit! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "sigh.." Posted by becky on 14:32:08 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:32:08, 5/19/2000 I feel like I have Alzheimers...I have no recollection of this whatsoever. must have been after I left the forum. At great risk of invoking very racist words... someone on another post made reference to MW's relatives being black and not seeing it. But MW is white. This is really creepy. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "Okay - Here We Go" Posted by CommonSense on 14:19:26 5/19/2000 Forget the connection to MW, Bridget, FW - forget all of it for this question: Who used to post at the original site with four hats, was male, and had something to do with card? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "Bill Ritter" Posted by CommonSense on 14:27:22 5/19/2000 Who is Bill Ritter? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 77. "ĒS" Posted by Seashell on 14:44:30 5/19/2000 >Who is Bill Ritter? Boulder assistant DA. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 76. "Don't talk to me about contacting authorities" Posted by Ruthee on 14:39:11 5/19/2000 I e-mailed Peter Boyles........Nothing I personally went to the FBI office in my county.......Nothing I called Hunter.............Nothing I e-mailed Craig Silverman.............Nothing I sent a letter to Fleet White.........Nothing If they don't care, there is nothing I can do about it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 78. "Gee Ruthee" Posted by Denver on 14:52:30 5/19/2000 Sounds like we all met the same brick wall that MW did.....hmmmmmmmm [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 80. "Denver & Ruthee" Posted by Chris on 15:07:44 5/19/2000 Ditto... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 79. "Ritter and G2" Posted by shana on 14:59:56 5/19/2000 I think: Ritter is Denver DA - one of Hunter's team of metro-area DAs. G2 was not on Leeza - perhaps you are thinking of Jan? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 82. "FOR GOD SAKE MAN...." Posted by becky on 15:20:45 5/19/2000 Just come out and say it....what? what? WHAT???...I have to go in two minutes..... This mystery poster didn't like negative references to Bill Ritter who was an assistant DA...therefore I assume a pasty boy not to be confused with a patsy ramsey. So he tried to get you all together to discredit your credibilty or to influence the grand jury towards the burke done it theory..(I favor the first thought). And somehow tom haney's..whoever the heck he is....son committed suicide ??? Because??? and this mystery poster who was responsible for attempting to influence a grand jury was somehow threatening or influencing the mystery woman and had an in with the BPD or the DA's office. And we have hearts diamonds clubs and spades...so where was the spade anyway? Does that have any reference to Boykin's family? I apologize for the reference...but if not that then what??? What??? Was she hit on the head with a shovel...were they going to bury her... You know what...I feel like theories are frantically being thrown out here to see what sticks. Until someone can explain why the Ramseys refuse to cooperate with the press...the police, the FBI or anyone beside the disreputable da's office...this is all too confusing and unbeliveable to me. Please...if there is a case...spell it out.. for all to see. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 81. "my memory may be fading..." Posted by Byron on 15:26:03 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:26:03, 5/19/2000 ...but wasn't it Jan, Chris, and G2? If not, who am I leaving out (ducking from the poster who will be upset :-) (agggghhhhh!!!!!! Mrs. B !!!) Early senility? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 89. "uh" Posted by Gemini on 16:08:07 5/19/2000 no becky, everything Chris and Denver are saying makes sense. You'll only run into trouble trying to read all the guess work as knowledgeable into. luvsbeagles (hope I'm spelling that correctly), I do not believe FW and MW are blood relatives. You may want to listen to some of the MW/mame interviews. Tedleg, I think this is the first time, ever, I've seen you post with tunnel vision. Step back, take a deep breath and try a broader view. You won't lose your space, but can go back to it with more to work with. Just a suggestion ... I'm soooo tempted to take that $@XO#$ Schiller book with me for the weekend, but am NOT going to do it. Mine is hardback, no indexes. It would just be frustrating and make everybody mad. outta here Y'all listen to Chris and Denver. They've offered a puzzle, but you can't mix it up with the pieces you have left from that BIG puzzle on the other table. (smack him Ruthee) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 87. "Byron, Ruthee," Posted by listener on 16:02:44 5/19/2000 Wasn't it Ruthee that was on that show? Hey Ruthee, you ought to know. The Shovel image....do you think it was to imply coverup? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 84. "Byron - Leeza" Posted by shana on 16:01:52 5/19/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:01:52, 5/19/2000 It was none other than our wonderful Ruthee. :-) P.S. Thank you for all your transcribing work, both then and now. Edited to add this line-up L to R (from memory, altho I do have a tape somewhere around here!): Mrs B, Ruthee, Chris, Jan [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 85. ".... Leeza...." Posted by Policedog on 16:01:45 5/19/2000 And let's not forget the illustrious diva... Brady. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 91. "LOL" Posted by Lacey on 18:33:00 5/19/2000 I always called him "spayed," 'cause I hoped he had been, what a nut case. I remember the stir he caused, and Mrs. Brady's admonishment that he was harmless just don't give him your email addy! (Something like that) LOL! He and G2 were tight for awhile and got into a bit of trouble on several forums. This extended to a bit of blackmail as well, I have no idea why. I just didn't follow a lot of the forum subculture issues that closely. This is curious though, and obviously from these posts there are those that know. I can't see what's the connection between him and the MW, but heck, I've got two more freakin' threads to catch up on so... who knows! Sooooooo weird Lace . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 92. "LOL II" Posted by darby on 18:40:46 5/19/2000 I remember that somebody taunted Spade by saying his wife is a hoe. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 93. "III" Posted by Lacey on 19:00:01 5/19/2000 Those were the days... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 94. "Auntie BJ's A Candy Rose Forum..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 19:10:41 5/19/2000 ...is chock full of info about these characters. Lots of threads about "spayed" and his relationship to MW, etc.--AS IF you don't have enough to read here, Lacey. Darby, I always enjoy your posts because you ask the questions I want to ask. You are a real truth-seeker. We definitely need more concrete facts on the MW before we can draw any conclusions. I think it significant that Tal Jones' natural father was married to MW's grandmother. He was an OSS officer (predecessor of CIA--ya know--MKUltra, kiddie sex rings, blackmail, Gov. Edwards, Franklin Institute--and all that.) I may be really reaching here, but this guy may be the "connection". Hope I'm making sense. I'm taking time out from a Bon Voyage party, and I just had a coupla glasses of a very fine Chateau-Neuf du Pape wine. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 95. "Hi, LXIV" Posted by FT on 19:16:43 5/19/2000 You said, "I may be really reaching here, but this guy may be the connection." Sorry if I missed this in these hinky threads, but could you please clarify how the Spade/Jones person is connected to the Whites? Thanks. And cheers! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 97. "could the connection be" Posted by Edie Pratt on 19:30:24 5/19/2000 they're cousins? FW and TJ and MW, that is. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 98. "#@$%!!, LURKER XIV!" Posted by Lacey on 19:44:25 5/19/2000 LOL (IV), I am trying to get caught up enough before the dawn of SON OF HINKY!!! (I'm sure it's on its way) Reading fast and furious Lacey . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]