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Curious: Has anyone ever written the Ramseys via their website?, Jeanilou, 15:45:15, 6/03/2000 Yep, Ribaldone, 17:06:37, 6/03/2000, (#1) my imaginary letter to pats and john, pat, 17:44:39, 6/03/2000, (#2) I confess..., mary99, 17:58:42, 6/03/2000, (#3) Writing the Ramseys, sabrina, 18:45:52, 6/03/2000, (#4) I don't know why..., Byron, 19:17:28, 6/03/2000, (#5) I wrote, docg, 19:40:50, 6/03/2000, (#6) Ya know, docg, , starry, 19:45:44, 6/03/2000, (#7) ...and..., Byron, 19:56:35, 6/03/2000, (#8) yeah, Byron, Edie Pratt, 20:00:30, 6/03/2000, (#9) I just wrote them tonight, at their family, SJ, 20:10:16, 6/03/2000, (#11) Me too, Sabrina, Jeanilou, 20:07:14, 6/03/2000, (#10) AOL , bookworm2, 20:13:07, 6/03/2000, (#12) I am on AOL..., Jeanilou, 20:45:01, 6/03/2000, (#16) jeani, bookworm2, 20:59:32, 6/03/2000, (#18) Yes, Email it to me, Jeanilou, 21:01:56, 6/03/2000, (#19) Jeanilou, Kelly, 19:11:14, 6/04/2000, (#44) Direct to the Perps, Pope38, 20:22:53, 6/03/2000, (#14) Bookworm, Ribaldone, 20:20:16, 6/03/2000, (#13) I'll give a hint here, Kelly, 19:12:50, 6/04/2000, (#45) RIbaldone, bookworm2, 20:54:34, 6/03/2000, (#17) When I saw the composite pix on the site this am,, sally denver, 20:31:46, 6/03/2000, (#15) Poor taste?, Shorty, 21:06:27, 6/07/2000, (#62) Don't the Ramseys..., Dunvegan, 21:38:59, 6/03/2000, (#20) I belong, nana2, 03:17:07, 6/04/2000, (#21) I don't like the tone, MrsBrady, 03:31:44, 6/04/2000, (#22) I do apologize, , nana2, 03:41:37, 6/04/2000, (#23) AOL, bookworm2, 04:53:44, 6/04/2000, (#24) no..., pinker, 05:00:27, 6/04/2000, (#25) Hard to believe, RiverRat, 05:20:05, 6/04/2000, (#27) I believe the Ramsey's, momo, 05:10:26, 6/04/2000, (#26) FWIW, Sharon, 06:21:17, 6/04/2000, (#28) Sorry..., Dunvegan, 06:49:33, 6/04/2000, (#29) Dunvegan, Sharon, 07:12:39, 6/04/2000, (#30) Uhm, yeah..., ConnieToo, 13:19:19, 6/05/2000, (#51) I APOLOGIZE...I AM SORRY..., Jeanilou, 08:25:01, 6/04/2000, (#31) Ramsey internet time, cstuart, 08:32:19, 6/04/2000, (#32) Rams Charity, cstuart, 08:35:42, 6/04/2000, (#33) Yep.. AOHell is NO browser friendly service..., ConnieToo, 13:25:03, 6/05/2000, (#52) Regarding privacy issues:, Dunvegan, 08:53:44, 6/04/2000, (#34) Hey, no problem here...`, MrsBrady, 09:20:50, 6/04/2000, (#35) Well, I was joking, I have better things, sally denver, 10:50:34, 6/04/2000, (#36) CStuart, 1000Sparks, 12:11:13, 6/04/2000, (#37) I wrote and..., Phantom, 12:24:04, 6/04/2000, (#38) Seeking the JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation, Dunvegan, 14:49:39, 6/04/2000, (#39) Does anyone know a reporter?, cstuart, 16:41:54, 6/04/2000, (#40) cstuart, Edie Pratt, 16:56:14, 6/04/2000, (#41) Tips to the Tabs, sabrina, 19:08:52, 6/04/2000, (#43) The Foundation, janphi, 18:36:53, 6/04/2000, (#42) Janphi--, sabrina, 06:32:24, 6/05/2000, (#47) Two family members emial addys, Bunnyby, 06:11:20, 6/05/2000, (#46) from GuideStar.org, shana, 09:25:02, 6/05/2000, (#49) Tax Returns, JR, 09:23:13, 6/05/2000, (#48) This thread--YIKES!!!, LurkerXIV, 13:10:23, 6/05/2000, (#50) JonBenet Foundation tax records, why_nut, 13:51:48, 6/05/2000, (#54) i did, ericasf, 13:46:49, 6/05/2000, (#53) They were online!!!, Bunnyby, 01:48:54, 6/06/2000, (#55) Bunnyby , fran, 03:15:01, 6/06/2000, (#56) C'mon, Byron, 04:54:40, 6/06/2000, (#57) Fran, Bunnyby, 05:00:53, 6/06/2000, (#58) Bunnyby, fran, 06:24:03, 6/06/2000, (#59) Fran, Bunnyby, 07:21:21, 6/06/2000, (#60) About AOL and screen names and IMs, Jeanilou, 07:47:27, 6/06/2000, (#61) ................................................................... "Curious: Has anyone ever written the Ramseys via their website?" Posted by Jeanilou on 15:45:15 6/03/2000 Just being plain nosy here but I was wondering if anyone had ever written the Ramseys, for or against them and received an answer back from them. Jeani [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Yep" Posted by Ribaldone on 17:06:37 6/03/2000 I wrote them a letter a few weeks ago but have not received and reply, and I don't expect to. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "my imaginary letter to pats and john" Posted by pat on 17:44:39 6/03/2000 Darling patsy and john, How in heck have you two scamps been? Your xmas letter was so DITD {down in the dumps pats} that I thought you really hadn't been getting on witih your life,,after pats told me johns good southern common sense was standing you in good stead 99.9 % of the time. The new house just looks divine,,darlings, is there enough room for the trees at xmas? And pats, you are going to avoid the dreaded PURPLE ones arent you,,,sometimes you two just send me LOL. Now ya'll be nice to little burky,,,are you speaking to him again? Just try not to hold grudges you two. And pats, the virgin mary blue garotte is PERFECT for the Mr. Little Atlanta contest burke is in,,did you blend his darling brown hair yet? And is his dance act just perfect? See yall at new years if the creeks don't rise. Ciou my little boulder child you-know-whatters. Lurlene [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "I confess..." Posted by mary99 on 17:58:42 6/03/2000 Christmas of 1999 I sent a generic bluemountain.com musical Christmas card. I don't remember the exact message, but I do remember how depressed I was during the holiday season to have the upcoming third anniversary of JonBenet's murder pass without resolution. I expressed sadness at her passing during a joyous season, and then slammed them with my sentiments that if not for the actions of the Ramseys themselves, her murder would not remain unsolved three years later. If I had to do it over again, I think this time around I would not confront them as murderers (as much as I'd like to), but instead offer my opinion that if they wish to honor JonBenet's memory, it's better to stand and be judged than to live a lie that denies justice its due process. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Writing the Ramseys" Posted by sabrina on 19:34:16 6/03/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:34:16, 6/03/2000 I am toying with the idea of writing them. Since John said that every stranger he has met and every email he has gotten is full of encouragement and kind words I thought maybe I would change that. Since the chances of me running into them in an airport or a grocery store is about nill, I might just send an email and offer my thoughts. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "I don't know why..." Posted by Byron on 19:17:28 6/03/2000 ...but this thread brings to mind the scene where the woman runs up to OJ and asks for his autograph. He turns and smiles, seemingly complimented by a young lady talking to him, and after he signs it, she says, "Thanks, I've never met a murderer before". [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "I wrote" Posted by docg on 19:40:50 6/03/2000 to them via the email address at their site. I sent them a tip regarding a possible suspect, gleaned from some Websleuthing I'd been doing. It was a solid tip, not just some theory. No response. Frankly I don't think anyone on their end is even looking at that stuff. By the way, my strong feeling is that the person I tipped them on is totally innocent. And for that reason I will not divulge the person's name. But it was something that bore looking into and I assumed their people would want to look into it. Maybe they did. But if so, no one got back to me about it. I think the whole thing is just more camouflage, smoke and mirrors, they are NOT looking for a killer, they are looking for reasonable doubt. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Ya know, docg, " Posted by starry on 19:45:44 6/03/2000 I have to agree with ya. In fact, I'll go ya one better. I doubt they ever visit their website. Oh, I forgot. They have no internet. No cable and no TV. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "...and..." Posted by Byron on 19:56:35 6/03/2000 ...they've become honorary Amish... ...no radio...no newspaper...no electricity...no indoor plumbing... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "yeah, Byron" Posted by Edie Pratt on 20:00:30 6/03/2000 they're Abe and Mary Todd all over again:-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "I just wrote them tonight, at their family" Posted by SJ on 20:10:16 6/03/2000 website address. Doubt if I'll get a reply. I basically told them that I believed Patsy is dissociative and John is in denial. The picture of the garrotte that they have on their site is very clear. The paintbrush handle is really a mess and in bad shape. Funny Patsy would profess to be an artist of sorts and have crummy supplies. Anyway, is it me or does the hair wrapped in that garrotte brown? It sure doesn't look as blonde as JBR's hair does. I found that strange. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Me too, Sabrina" Posted by Jeanilou on 20:07:14 6/03/2000 I am considering it to for the very reason you mentioned. I have no doubt they already know that they are really fooling no one but I just want to hear it from me that I am not as naive as they want the general public to be. Jeani [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "AOL " Posted by bookworm2 on 07:27:13 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 07:27:13, 6/04/2000 A couple of months ago someone posted that they had received a note from the Rams and included their address on AOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "I am on AOL..." Posted by Jeanilou on 08:35:49 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 08:35:49, 6/04/2000 >A couple of months ago someone posted >that they had received a note >from the Rams and included their >address on AOL. I put >it on my buddy list and >I see them online about once >a day for five minutes or >so. Is anyone else on >AOL? Anyone willing to IM them? >( Not me!) And I would IM them in a minute. Give me the screen name and consider it done! Jeani ****Just for the record, AOL has a way you can BLOCK IM's. And the Ramseys or anyone they allow to use their AOL account has this same option. My plan to IM them is NOT to berate them or to incite them. I just want to ask them some questions. I am willing to bet they dont allow any of their screen names to receive IMs to start with. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "jeani" Posted by bookworm2 on 20:59:32 6/03/2000 shall i email it to you?? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Yes, Email it to me" Posted by Jeanilou on 08:39:28 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 08:39:28, 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:07:01, 6/03/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:06:06, 6/03/2000 >shall i email it to you?? I wonder if is the same one they gave in their book DOI? It is JonBenetinfo@aol.com. Adding that to my buddy list now although I hate to call them a buddy. Maybe I will make a category just for them, like Liars? Hmmmmm? My buddy list. I can do what I want with it right? And as far as the AOL screen name, they have posted it in their book. That is where I got it from. LOL! Jeani Oops...forgot my email address ****Okay, I guess my warped sense of humor got tome me here when I made the reference to Liars. I actually used a category I named "Ramsey". Just for the record, I am not as mean as I pretend at times. And even when I am very angry or upset with some I can be polite and not flame, spam or incite. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Jeanilou" Posted by Kelly on 19:11:14 6/04/2000 I have them listed on my buddy list under the heading "murderers". [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Direct to the Perps" Posted by Pope38 on 20:22:53 6/03/2000 Since we all know that I cannot type or write more than a few words at I time, I took the direct route. The first night weeks ago when the Rams were on LKL, I phoned in and got through. I asked a MW question and the producer would not take my question. I was disconnected without a chance to ask another. This is my story and I am sticking to it with no proof. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Bookworm" Posted by Ribaldone on 20:20:16 6/03/2000 I know what address you're talking about and I think if you IM them, they will probably change it. I often wonder if it's actually Patsy's address or if Susan Stine is using it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "I'll give a hint here" Posted by Kelly on 19:12:50 6/04/2000 They were online and on LKL at the same time. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "RIbaldone" Posted by bookworm2 on 07:22:52 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 07:22:52, 6/04/2000 I guess that is a screenname that was OK to be given to the public or they would not have used it to reply to mail at their website.But i am not going to post it, I dont want to encourage spamming or anything. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "When I saw the composite pix on the site this am," Posted by sally denver on 20:31:46 6/03/2000 Which the News reported they received from a psychic - I E'd them that I saw a definite resemblance to John...do you think I'll qualify for the reward??? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "Poor taste?" Posted by Shorty on 21:06:27 6/07/2000 LTNS sallydenver! I wondered if anyone besides me, thought that the placement of the PerpSketch, on the Ramsey's homepage was about as tasteless as everything else they do? I mean, at the top of the page, you see these beautiful, heartwarming and heartbreaking photos of JonBenet, and then as you scroll down, you see this ridiculous psychic sketch and message. Why not...if they really had to put it up on the website, post a prominent note/link indicating that there is now new information on the evidence link or profile link, and leave the front page clean?? Just a silly little complaint, I suppose, but it seems that JonBenet, as she was in life and as she is in memory, are always the least important thing to the Ramseys. To me, the PerpSketch on HER page, is nothing more than graffiti. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Shorty ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Don't the Ramseys..." Posted by Dunvegan on 06:52:28 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:52:28, 6/04/2000 ...editing to remove information that, after reading the comments, I agree, probably should remain unposted. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dunvegan ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "I belong" Posted by nana2 on 03:44:14 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 03:44:14, 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 03:19:37, 6/04/2000 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "I don't like the tone" Posted by MrsBrady on 03:31:44 6/04/2000 ...of posts 20 and 21 above and was tempted to push the "alert" button. If we have inside knowledge of the Rammer's hideout address, posting it on a public forum is encouraging stalkers. Implying that the community spam or hack the Rammer's web site is even worse. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "I do apologize, " Posted by nana2 on 03:41:37 6/04/2000 I certainly wasn't thinking properly, and thank you for bringing it to my attention. Glad you were up so early Nana2 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "AOL" Posted by bookworm2 on 04:53:44 6/04/2000 And I dont want anyone to spam the Ramseys, I withdraw my offer to repeat the screen name i read on this forum a couple months ago!! Lets just go back to "wondering." [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "no..." Posted by pinker on 05:00:27 6/04/2000 I would be scared to let those pathalogical preverbicators and their hired guns have access to my e-mail address. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Hard to believe" Posted by RiverRat on 05:20:05 6/04/2000 that they are on-line for only 5 minutes a day. Just for the record, after seeing the R's possible street address name, I may have to change hats just to get rid of that icky feel out of my gut. How about Jaded - that about sums it up for me at this point. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "I believe the Ramsey's" Posted by momo on 05:10:26 6/04/2000 home address is 4070 Paces Ferry Road. This is of course the home they are remodeling. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "FWIW" Posted by Sharon on 06:21:17 6/04/2000 When Sparky sent a donation to the JBR Foundation, the acknowlegment letter revealed an aol return address. I believe that some poeple have written to this address, in the assumption that it's Patsy Ramsey's. However, another forum reported recently that the screen name for that address showed up online at exactly the time when Patsy and John were appearing on LKL. Hmm....I know nothing about how that show is produced - as in whether it could've been taped hours earlier, freeing up Patsy to go online and check out the feedback from her live appearance??? More likely, I suspect that IF it's really Patsy's email address, she shares it with Susan Stine or a Paugh family member. Just my opinion. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Sorry..." Posted by Dunvegan on 06:49:33 6/04/2000 I think you're correct about posting personal information...and, with reflection, I agree that it is not appropriate for this forum. I didn't mean to post anything that seems inproper...I'll go clean up that comment. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dunvegan ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Dunvegan" Posted by Sharon on 07:12:39 6/04/2000 I sent you an email. Can you check your mail? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Uhm, yeah..." Posted by ConnieToo on 13:19:19 6/05/2000 no reply... I just CAN'T for the LIFE of me figure out why my information, purloined from the Steve Thomas book wasn't embraced with open arms by the killahs.. I tried to give them their perp. I told the Patsy to look deep into herself, and see the crime again with her own eyes, and she'd find the killah, but no dice. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "I APOLOGIZE...I AM SORRY..." Posted by Jeanilou on 08:25:01 6/04/2000 Sorry about the caps but I wanted go get your attention. I never meant to imply that we should stalk or spam anyone. My question was and is a sincere one. I was curious if any had ever had contact with the Ramseys. I was mostly curious it they only respond to their supporters. I do intend to write them. They have put both the AOL screen name and the web site out in the public domain. The AOL screen name is stated on page 374 of their book DOI and the other email address in on their web page. This is already info in the public domain. The Ramseys put it out their themselves and posting it here is just like when you post any other information on here that is already in the public domain. But if this is unacceptable to the forum, then I am sorry for my actions. I guess I screwed up. Again! (Story of my life. A little humor here.) I personally believe I have the right to correspond with anyone I desire, but I do not spam or flame or stalk. So many times I have watch the Ramseys on TV and wished for some way to convey how I felt about it. Even when I express my displeasure, I do it in a well-mannered way. But again I apologize for any trouble I started. That was not my intention. I only was curious to know that if I wrote them, would it generate a response or if the email addy on their webpage was just there for appearances. I had my doubts. Again, I apologize to this forum and to Chris, our moderator. And I especially apologize to another member of the forum for causing trouble for her. She knows who she is and I am truly sorry. I NEVER meant for that to happen. And I am by NO MEANS wanting to incite ANYONE to stalk, flame or spam anyone! Please forgive me. Jeani [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Ramsey internet time" Posted by cstuart on 08:32:47 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 08:32:47, 6/04/2000 I don't think we can gauge Ramsey internet time from the AOL Buddies. I have AOL but it is so quirky, that I use Netscape for everything but email. If you have cable access it is not much to keep an AOL account (you don't pay for the phone access so AOL gives you a deal) just for email. So my point is the Rams may just log on to AOL briefly for email and could still be spending hours reading Justice Watch through Netscape or Internet Explorer. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Rams Charity" Posted by cstuart on 08:35:42 6/04/2000 What may be trackable and seems important to me is how much of the proceeds of DOI really go to charity like JR stated on LKL the other night. I wish a good reporter (not a tab) would do an expose of the JonBenet Children's Foundation. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Yep.. AOHell is NO browser friendly service..." Posted by ConnieToo on 13:25:03 6/05/2000 TC/IP with local provider ($99/year, unlimited access, never busy signal) and access AOL to read email from family. AOL makes you crazy after a few times of denying you access to where you want to go. Netscape is ever so much easier to use.. MSExplorer is always very, very slow from LA.. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Regarding privacy issues:" Posted by Dunvegan on 08:53:44 6/04/2000 Jeanilou said: >I never meant to imply that we >we should stalk or spam anyone. I agree wholeheartedly. It distresses me that anyone might want to do such a thing, and did not occur to me. I believe I may have been exceptionally naive when I posted information I found via an online search engine. Although the information is "publicly available" it does make sense that the consequences of posting such information in a forum devoted to the Ramsey case only amplifies the possibilities that someone reading here, who is not a forum member, may focus on such information and use it in an inappropriate fashion. So, I removed the offending information, and also apologize. Jeanilou also wrote: >And I am by NO MEANS >wanting to incite ANYONE to stalk, >flame or spam anyone! Please forgive >me. Agreed! Heaven forfend...I do understand that the point of the thread was to gauge possible Ramsey reactions outside a public forum for the purposes of comparing private reactions vs. public facade. Apologies all around.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dunvegan ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Hey, no problem here...`" Posted by MrsBrady on 09:20:50 6/04/2000 ....chalk it up to it was early and I was feeling surly :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Well, I was joking, I have better things" Posted by sally denver on 10:50:34 6/04/2000 to do with my life than write to the Ramseys. That being said, however, I think those people deserve EVERY piece of spam or nasty E-Mail that they receive. If they want to be TV stars - why should they be spared?? The Ramsey's seem to want their cake and eat it too! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "CStuart" Posted by 1000Sparks on 12:11:13 6/04/2000 I send a check to that Ramsey foundation on January 10 and the check has not been cashed. I got an email from John Ramsey (yeh, right) that said that the foundation was moved to Atlanta and every little bit counts. If I had the address I'd send another check to see if they cash it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "I wrote and..." Posted by Phantom on 12:24:04 6/04/2000 said what I thought about MW. Could be right or wrong or near. It's like the time I thought the unibomber might have been someone who knew about the other famous bomber, when I was in jr.high. But it wasn't him. The unibomber turned out to be Ted K, but I had heard a couple of people talking about a real smart guy, but who some thought was strange, but who they thought was wasn't. And I think they were talking about Ted K. Oh well........ [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Seeking the JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation" Posted by Dunvegan on 14:52:14 6/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:52:14, 6/04/2000 A search at KnowX.com for "JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation" returned the following: You are searching for: JonBenet Ramsey Childrens Foundation Located in: CHECK ALL STATES A: Corporate & Ltd. Partnership Records -No Records Found -The following states were not covered: AL, FL, HI, ME, MT, NM, PR, VI. From: US Corporate & Ltd. Partnership Records Records Source and Effective Date Information. B: Federal Employer Identification Number Locator -No Records Found -US Federal Employer Identification Number Locator Records Source and Effective Date Information. C: Business Yellow Pages -No Records Found -The following states were not covered: PR, VI. -US Business Yellow Pages Records Source and Effective Date Information. D: DBAs: DBA Records (Doing Business As) -No Records Found -The following states were not covered: MT, PR, SD, VI, WY. US -DBAs: DBA Records (Doing Business As) Records Source and Effective Date Information. Sales Tax Permits -No Records Found- -US Sales Tax Permits Records Source and Effective Date Information. Didn't really expect that there would be sales tax permits, being a non-profit. Does this foundation show up on the real-world radar anywhere? (Edited to type in the "Ramsey" in the foundation's name, as it appeared in the actual search.) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Does anyone know a reporter?" Posted by cstuart on 16:41:54 6/04/2000 Do any posters know a Boulder or Colorado or National reporter. I want an expose of this sham foundation to become a story. I was so irritated when JR snarled at ST that the proceeds from his book were going to charity. They get away with SO much. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "cstuart" Posted by Edie Pratt on 16:56:14 6/04/2000 I know Don Gentile from the Enquirer reads here, and I'm sure, too, that the "Foundation" is being monitored by SOMEBODY. There's certainly enough things in this case that deserve a look-see, and that's one of them,CS. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "Tips to the Tabs" Posted by sabrina on 19:08:52 6/04/2000 You can email tips to the tabs from their websites. I think they also will pay a few hundred dollars if they use the story. If you do not feel right about accepting the $, you can always donate it to a legit charity. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "The Foundation" Posted by janphi on 18:36:53 6/04/2000 At one time in the not-too-distant past (I've only been here two months, so it has been in that time span), the tax returns for the Foundation were posted at jameson's, they might still be in a document archive somewhere. But we had several long threads here about the legitimacy of it. Too much detail to write about now, but it seems like the latest year they showed was 1998, with an accumulated intake in the $5,000 range (??), I think, and maybe a balance in the $2-3,000 range (???). I noted that $1200 came in 1998 and $1500 was written off for a computer. Where did I just read today that JR said $14,000 had been received and paid out to children's charities (which he couldn't/wouldn't name)--oh yeah, one of the newspaper articles this week--maybe today? Hope someone checks that out more thoroughly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Janphi--" Posted by sabrina on 06:32:24 6/05/2000 Here's another idea,why don't you email this to Peter Boyles and Chuck Green. I think you can email Peter thru the website, link is on Ma's page. Chuck's email is usually at the end of his columns. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Two family members emial addys" Posted by Bunnyby on 06:11:20 6/05/2000 I can tell you where to find two relatives email addys. I won't post them as I do not know them by heart but if you email me, I will tell you where to find them, but not if it is meant to be harrassing. Actually only one is a relative. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Bunnyby ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "from GuideStar.org" Posted by shana on 03:23:22 6/08/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 03:23:22, 6/08/2000 . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Tax Returns" Posted by JR on 09:23:13 6/05/2000 Hmmmm...Janphi....many people can and do prepare their own tax returns - doesn't mean they filed them. Food for thought. I have emailed them at the address on their site and posted that email on a thread here a few weeks back. I have never received a response and in fact the email "bounced" so either the address is much like the tip line phone numebr in DOI or their ISP was down. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "This thread--YIKES!!!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 13:10:23 6/05/2000 Y'all are being so kind and considerate towards those lying murderous Rams. They are public figures, and any hate mail or email they get is royally deserved. I wish THEY would quit stalking US by showing up on our TV screens damn near every day. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "JonBenet Foundation tax records" Posted by why_nut on 13:51:48 6/05/2000 If anyone wishes to examine the tax form filed by the Foundation for 1998's tax year, it can be found at: http://members.aol.com/whynut/ The deadline to file the 1999 tax year's Form 990PF was May 15th, so I shall be filing a request for a copy. I expect it to be interesting. John and Patsy were likely issued the advance for their book late in 1999. They should have put the proceeds into the Foundation, as they have said often that they would. The tax record should reflect this event, unless they have done something as un-Christian as lie about what they were going to do with the money. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "i did" Posted by ericasf on 13:46:49 6/05/2000 I wrote to find out if they would write back. of course they didn't. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "They were online!!!" Posted by Bunnyby on 01:48:54 6/06/2000 I found them on line at 4:30 AM EST. I used the locate member on line and it said they were currently on line but not in a chat. I didn't IM, I didn't know what to say. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "Bunnyby " Posted by fran on 03:15:01 6/06/2000 Did you find them online at aol, and was it the same address listed in their book? If not, would you mind emailing me the one you have (or post it if you feel comfortable doing that). Thanks so much. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL fran ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "C'mon" Posted by Byron on 04:54:40 6/06/2000 JR was in the computer industry. They wouldn't really use AOL, would they? I remember when I started on the internet back in 96 with AOL. Once your "user name" was established, you could be easily followed practically everywhere via that name, and that was your e-mail addy also. If they're truly there, they probably have "public" (AOL) and "private" (firewalled, encrypted, or whatever) access. JMHO. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Fran" Posted by Bunnyby on 05:00:53 6/06/2000 Yes, they were on AOL and it was the one used in their book, Jonbenetinfo. I decided to switch to gust and IM them but as soon as I switched, I went back to locate and they were signed off. I don't know can I IM as guest? I'm new to AOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "Bunnyby" Posted by fran on 06:24:03 6/06/2000 Thanks for the response. I 'think' you can IM when you're signed on as guest at aol. Anyway, I thought I would keep an eye out for whoever is signed on under that email addy. Prob not the R's though - maybe the person who monitors the website? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Fran" Posted by Bunnyby on 07:21:21 6/06/2000 Thats possible. I was wondering if it could be Burke? A reason I'm concerned about IM'ing them. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "About AOL and screen names and IMs" Posted by Jeanilou on 07:47:27 6/06/2000 >JR was in the computer industry. >They wouldn't really use AOL, would >they? I remember when I >started on the internet back in >96 with AOL. Once your >"user name" was established, you could >be easily followed practically everywhere via >that name, and that was your >e-mail addy also. If they're truly >there, they probably have "public" (AOL) >and "private" (firewalled, encrypted, or whatever) >access. JMHO. I have AOL and have had it for over 3 yrs now. And yes AOL does make it easy to track somoene because you can do a locate and find out where they is at that time. BUT AOL also has protections devices built in. You can block everyone from seeing u online if u choose. I use do this a lot when I was working on one many webpages until I got smart and set up a screen name just for my web page business. And once u block your screen name or user name, unless u have a profile, NO ONE can find you. I think the Ramsey's do use AOL. I think the one in their book is legit for sure and I think the one I was given by another Justice Watch member is legit too. I did IM who I believe to be Patsy using that screen name (the one supplied by the JW member) and got a very ambigious response back from that person. They did NOT deny that she might be using that screen name. I will post what I wrote to them but I will change the screen name or user name of the person I was talking to for my own protection. I don't want a TOS on my AOL account. I need my account for my business. I have yet to IM the name in the Ramsey book, JonBenetinfo but I am in the process of writing a letter to that user name with some questions I have. I doubt I get a response but I can try. Here is the IM, with the user name, or screen name replaced by X's. As you can see, I was very cautious in what I said. Had she identified herself as Patsy, I would have asked the questions I wanted to ask her but I had to be sure I had the right person 1st to protect myself and my account. Make out of whatever you want: Begin IM - 6/4/00 01:43 PM Jeanilou: Is this really Patsy Ramsey or was I given wrong information? XXXXX: What? Jeanilou: Sorry to bother you but I was told I could reach Patsy Ramsey via this screen name. Is that correct? XXXXX: I don't know. This is my lover screen name. Jeanilou: Okay. I am a bit confused. You don't know if you are P. Ramsey or not? Or you don't know if your lover is using this screen name as Patsy? I am not wanting to intrude on your privacy but I am curious. I beg your pardon if I have reach the wrong person. I was going to email when I saw you pop on line to ask the same questions. Jeanilou: It is as simple as this: I am doing some research on line about the JonBenet Ramsey case and someone told me I could contact her mother using the Pstyr screenname Jeanilou: I just want to verify one way or another Jeanilou: If I have the wrong party, I apologize. And I won't intrude anymore And with that who ever it was signed off. 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