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Linda Hoffman Pugh--Part Two, LurkerXIV, 16:06:23, 6/12/2000 I agree with previous posters..., LurkerXIV, 16:15:27, 6/12/2000, (#1) LurkerXIV, milton, 16:36:32, 6/12/2000, (#2) LHP, Ribaldone, 17:34:48, 6/12/2000, (#3) LHP bandwagonners!, balisal, 19:09:45, 6/12/2000, (#4) Whose Writing What, Ruthee, 19:21:51, 6/12/2000, (#5) Things hidden, Seashell, 21:59:52, 6/12/2000, (#6) Abuse in hiding, WitchyWoman, 22:51:58, 6/12/2000, (#7) Something about the child they hate, MJenn, 00:25:34, 6/13/2000, (#10) WW, Luvsa Mystery, 23:24:22, 6/12/2000, (#9) You Are Right Luvsa, WitchyWoman, 13:48:46, 6/13/2000, (#14) I am sure Linda can tell us for starters, whether JR always ..., Luvsa Mystery, 23:07:10, 6/12/2000, (#8) Ruthie, Watching you, 05:38:21, 6/13/2000, (#11) Hi WY!, canadiana, 21:12:13, 6/13/2000, (#26) Ribaldone, fly, 07:23:43, 6/13/2000, (#12) Excuse me, what's the difference?, WitchyWoman, 13:46:39, 6/13/2000, (#13) yeppers!, ConnieToo, 22:42:13, 6/13/2000, (#29) Pigs, v_p, 14:01:39, 6/13/2000, (#15) v_p & WW, fly, 14:15:17, 6/13/2000, (#17) love to read, Nandee, 14:10:55, 6/13/2000, (#16) hehehe... , ConnieToo, 22:46:39, 6/13/2000, (#30) Ramsey's didn't , Seeker, 15:10:51, 6/13/2000, (#19) I consider, momo, 14:46:43, 6/13/2000, (#18) Again with the pigs :), v_p, 15:16:01, 6/13/2000, (#20) er, I think it's cajones, ConnieToo, 22:49:45, 6/13/2000, (#31) V., I understand and agree..., LurkerXIV, 17:39:49, 6/13/2000, (#21) I just read, Ribaldone, 18:47:50, 6/13/2000, (#22) Ribaldone, v_p, 19:25:51, 6/13/2000, (#23) Thanks V, Ribaldone, 19:31:35, 6/13/2000, (#24) Maybe he didn't really lie..., Texan, 20:40:17, 6/13/2000, (#25) Ribaldone,, WitchyWoman, 21:22:22, 6/13/2000, (#27) I'm with you on that..., ConnieToo, 22:33:14, 6/13/2000, (#28) ................................................................... "Linda Hoffman Pugh--Part Two" Posted by LurkerXIV on 16:06:23 6/12/2000 Part One is nearing 100 posts. This discussion is of the tab article where LHP says "Patsy Did It!" Here are the last two posts, to get us started on Thread two: 93. "Ginja" Posted by New York Lawyer on 08:28:20 6/11/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 08:28:20, 6/11/2000 Oh, grow up -- and a brain, while you're at it. This is some of the silliest analysis (even for you) that I've seen posted in quite some time. The sheer hysterical fakery of it is pure nonsense. Simply put: You don't have the faintest idea of what you are talking about! Even the Ramseys believe, as they stated several times on Larry King, that the ransom note writer is the murderer. They have NO DOUBT about it. I repeat: The ransom note writer IS the murderer! Do you "get it" NOW? Patsy and John sure do! 94. "Well, NYL" Posted by Ginja on 09:08:14 6/11/2000 Showing your true colors, eh? Grow a brain yourself! Just because you've got a JD doesn't mean you know how to use it, and it's obvious here. So what! Patsy admits the writer is the murderer! Prove it! How do you prove she killed using a note as evidence/proof? No where in the note is there a confession. If it was that easy, this case would be at trial. You know, you lead people on this board by a nose-chain. They think because you're a lawyer you know what you're talking about and what you're doing. Credentials mean diddly-squat. If anyone's dangerous here with a little knowledge, it's you! You use people for your own gains. You waste your time on the internet...or maybe not. It's your only forum! It's the only place people will listen to you! And that's because they don't know any better! Your fan club conists of one brown-nose and a handful of unknowing people who are so frustrated by the case that your ramblings are better than nothing, as far as they're concerned. Where were you three years ago, or two, when there were plenty of posters on board who could see right through you. No. You waited until the board went public and 75% of the members are new and unknowing. You never got away with all this bull a few years ago. If, for example, all was needed to prove the notewriter was the murderer, again...that person would have been arrested. It's a no go. And that's why Patsy's sitting so pretty and arrogant, agreeing with you! She knows she can't be touched on these grounds. Maybe if you started playing the incest game and started torturing JohnBoy, you'd see a different reaction coming out of the Camp. Why? Because you'd be too close for comfort! I don't need the brain, NYL... What you need is filler to get from writing a note to bashing your child's skull in half! I give you credit for going after child murderers, NYL. What I don't give you credit for is not using your brain and wherewithal to get anywhere with it! Felony murder predicated on kidnapping by parents of a child who never left the home is baseless and without merit. You've been questioned on that by attorneys who post here and told you it wasn't feasible. I took your notes and Wolfe complaint to an ABA meeting/seminar and it got the same result. Baseless and without merit -- with a hidden agenda. I can't even believe you used Patsy's "claims" in your own defense! You kiss up to everyone, NYL...as long as they kiss up to you. As soon as someone like myself calls you on it, instead of an intelligent response, you rip into the insults. I've obviously hit a chord here. I just hope people notice how defensive you get when questioned. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "I agree with previous posters..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 16:43:16 6/12/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:43:16, 6/12/2000 ..who said that the housekeeper is the one who knows all the family secrets. To me, Linda seems like a very decent and honest woman. I liked the portrayal of her in the PMPT movie, where she broke down upon hearing of JonBenet's death, and appeared to be more bereaved than the child's own mother. This seems to be an accurate portrayal, backed up by several witnesses. Linda truly loved JonBenet. She listened to her beautiful dreams; she allowed JonBenet to be herself; she treated JB with kindness and love. So unlike Patsy Ramsey, whose main interest in JonBenet was to trot her out in crude, immodest costumes, and have her prance about in front of pedophiles. Allowing the poor baby to do a suggestive dance with a saxophone. Telling the shivering baby to get "on with the show" when JonBenet begged to put her jacket on. "NO! YOU"RE STILL ON DISPLAY!!" Linda Hoffman Pugh was a better friend and role model to JonBenet, in her own simple motherly way, than Patsy Ramsey could ever hope to be. And if it so happens that NYL can bring a successful suit against the Ramseys on behalf of Linda, whom Patsy Ramsey so scurrilously slandered, I say "BRAVO, NYL!" Edited for typos. Thanks, milton; good to "see" you again! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "LurkerXIV" Posted by milton on 16:36:32 6/12/2000 Yes indeed. Very well said. I'm with you! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "LHP" Posted by Ribaldone on 17:35:06 6/12/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:35:06, 6/12/2000 It's been three long, grueling years and Linda has a right to speak out if she chooses. If Linda received money from the Globe, so what! She has already given her story to the authorities and she's kept quiet and stayed out of the public spotlight for more than three years (with no end in sight). I see her interview more as "correcting a wrong" than attempting to sell her story for money. If she was only interested in money, she could have sold her story long ago. I imagine Linda is sick and tired of seeing the Ramseys on TV and hearing their lies about what a perfect family they were/are. Everyone has a breaking point and I believe Linda has reached hers. She owes apologies to no one. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "LHP bandwagonners!" Posted by balisal on 19:13:07 6/12/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:13:07, 6/12/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:12:07, 6/12/2000 Oh goodie me too!!! My housekeeper has far more idea of what is going on in my household than I do! This, despite the fact she only works 3 mornings a week. She knows everyones moods, habits and is quick to pick up on the nuances of any disruption. She is also extremely loyal, and considers herself one of us. I believe Linda felt the same and she displayed the utmost loyalty despite the Rams attempts to put her/family in the frame. I would imagine she has more than just a cursory knowledge of their finances, is familiar with private papers, medications and most letters would get the once over. (She's only human) Now apparently she has deserted the Rams(after all they stupidly failed to nurture her!), and my guess she will have a lot more to tell us. Most of us smelt a giant RamseyRat in this heinous murder. The main thing that grabbed my atention was not so much the pushy histrionic stage Momism, but rather the domestic weirdness of the 25/26th December. Nothing seemed to gel I hope we now have someone who can unravel this clutter. I am sure Linda can tell us for starters, whether JR always read on his knees! As far as integrity, she has more than most players on this field, and on the bank balance side of things, she could have hit the jackpot long before now. JfJBR edited because my attempt at "bold" didn't work [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Whose Writing What" Posted by Ruthee on 19:21:51 6/12/2000 It's interesting that Steve Thomas mentions a friend who said that Patsy called "the blonde down the street a pig." I see that LHP is also a pig according to some Ramsey friends who post on the internet. From this day forward I am now known as a BARD. Steve Thomas told me so on page 124. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Things hidden" Posted by Seashell on 22:00:41 6/12/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:00:41, 6/12/2000 Many subtle things point to the sexual abuse of JBR by a male. Unfortunately, whenever the subject becomes heated, as tho something may actually be known, doors start slamming shut or people are discredited. If we look at the crime holistically, more things point to a male than a female. Left brained thinkers will not be able to see the forest for all the little trees; hence the thriving PR theory. People who think PR is the sole perpette need to take off their rose colored glasses. Every time JR becomes a serious suspect, all Hell breaks loose. And when incest is mentioned, well, it just isn't anymore, is it? Why is that, especially with the new dictionary revelation? What could be more clear? THE DICTIONARY WAS OPENED TO THE WORD INCEST!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Abuse in hiding" Posted by WitchyWoman on 22:51:58 6/12/2000 As someone pointed out, physical abuse is not usually done in public, it is done behind closed doors. It does not matter what a mother or father appear to be to the outside world. What matters is what what goes on when no one is looking. Not all abused children try to be perfect, some act out in rebellion even though they know full well the price they will pay for it. Why? I haven't a clue, but I know some do. Some abused children would lie to the world, including their own family members about why they have those bruises, etc. The child is sometimes ashamed they are abused and they love their parent so they keep the dirty little secret. Not all mothers and fathers guilty of abuse behind closed doors abuse every one of their children. Sometimes it is only one child that is physically abused. Sometimes the other children don't know and may never unless the child one day opens up to another. Some abusers are perfectly wonderful people in every other respect of their lives. They are good mothers and fathers in every other respect. They love their children. They show love to their child they abuse. Receiving both love and abuse is confusing to children. On the one hand they know they are loved - on the other they know there is something about them their parent that abuses them hates. WW [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Something about the child they hate" Posted by MJenn on 00:25:34 6/13/2000 My experience with having a child of my own is that what is hardest to deal with is what I see of myself in him that I don't like. It is also one of the greatest gifts a child can give you, because it's a crystal clear look at yourself, and personal growth and improvement become possible. It's also very hard, because when you don't like what you see, you have to face your own flaws and fight your own demons. It's hard on your pride. Humbling. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins the Ramseys flaunt like a pedigree. I want to know what demons were flying around that house that night. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "WW" Posted by Luvsa Mystery on 23:24:22 6/12/2000 Especially young children don't realize they are abused. They don't know of any other lifestyle and assume all children, everywhere are treated similarly. When I was grown, I was surprised to learn that all children didn't have to go out and choose a switch from the trees and be beaten with it until their legs and bottoms bled. Or that all mothers don't pull their daughters around by the hair or punch and kick them. I didn't know that some babies aren't left in filthy cribs until maggots hatched. Children don't tell because they don't know what normal is. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "You Are Right Luvsa" Posted by WitchyWoman on 13:48:46 6/13/2000 I am sure that is true! But some just don't tell because they are ashamed, they do know others don't get beaten. There are just so many reasons they keep their little mouths shut. Pitiful, really pitiful. WW [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "I am sure Linda can tell us for starters, whether JR always read on his knees!" Posted by Luvsa Mystery on 23:07:10 6/12/2000 LOL !!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Ruthie" Posted by Watching you on 05:38:21 6/13/2000 what's a BARD? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Hi WY!" Posted by canadiana on 21:12:13 6/13/2000 I know you weren't asking me, but I know the ANSWER!!! I think.... BARD....Beyond A Reasonable Doubt Am I right? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Ribaldone" Posted by fly on 07:23:43 6/13/2000 Actually, LHP did sell her story a long time ago. This isn't her only foray into the tabs. It doesn't help her credibility at all, and that might be unfortunate if she does, indeed, have as much to offer the case as some here think. If I were in her situation and her income bracket, I don't know if my principles would be strong enough to resist the money, so I won't condemn her for selling her stories. There are already a lot of other pigs at the JBR trough, and many of those were plenty fat to begin with. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Excuse me, what's the difference?" Posted by WitchyWoman on 13:46:39 6/13/2000 I just don't get it - some people write books and make money, some get paid for tv appearances, some get money for talking to the tabs. What is the difference??????? Schiller made money, no one is condemning him, attorney's make money not just in court, but running their mouths on tv, and yes - by writing books. No one is condemning them. ALL the media's make money yaaking about this case and other misc. 'stuff' and no one condemns them. So, who is the judge and jury here, who makes the decision who gets money and who doesn't? Why should where you get the money make a difference? If I remember correctly the tabs got more dirt on OJ, TRUE DIRT, than any of the other media outlets, all this was brought out in the trial. So?????? You tell me, what is the difference please. Look at that Jeff character from the Globe, he DID have an inside track from both the DA and BPD. Is what ST said in his book a lie just because he said it in a book and made money? NO, he just told the plain and simple truth. No one says he isn't credible, well some do, but we know who they are. What I'm getting at is why would LHP's statements to the tabs be any less credible in court if they are TRUE? I never got this in the OJ trial and I still don't. If I were on a jury I believe I should be told if ANYONE received $ for their stories and that includes attorney's that blab about the case on tv for publicity = more$$ in their pocket, etc. However, I would not automatically discount what they said just because they got $ for what they said, that is ridiculous to me. IMO LHP has gone through hell because of what the R's have said about her and her family so why shouldn't she make an extra $ if she needs it. She has to eat too. Those condemning her the most seem to be the ones profiting the most from what they themselves do. NO, I do NOT think she is any more or less credible for selling her stories to anyone she chooses to sell them to. In closing, NO I don't buy the tabs, I never have. That does not mean I think everything they print is BS - I know better! A lot of what you hear on TV IS BS, a lot of what you read in your local paper IS BS, a lot of what you see in the tabs IB BS. So????????? You have to use your common sense and as much good judgement as you can muster to decipher what is trash and what is not. WW [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "yeppers!" Posted by ConnieToo on 22:42:13 6/13/2000 The "expert paid for" witnesses take a ton of money for their appearances in court. Why shouldn't a poor lady who was thrown under the bus and has true inside information be chastised by the world. I am appalled at the readiness of people to attack her, when they have NO IDEA of her motives. Personally, I believe that Linda Pugh has every right to get any money she's able to from the tabs or anywhere else. The RST deserves to loose this one big time. Patsy, I think you and John are good for it, because I don't believe John was asleep.. like he started to disavow on LKL, before he thought of the possible consequences to himself. He would be charged with perjury, and see for himself what the inside of the BCJ. AZIF! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Pigs" Posted by v_p on 14:02:24 6/13/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:02:24, 6/13/2000 I'm a firm believer that if you don't vote - don't bitch and moan about the state of the Union. If I want to intelligently debate this issue, I need to read as much as I possibly can to become educated on the evidence, etc. If I boycott these books and don't buy them - I can call all the authors pigs and feel good about my stance - On the other hand, I cannot very well pay money for these books and then call the writers pigs. That would be a titch hypocritical - doncha thank? V. edited for spelling :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "v_p & WW" Posted by fly on 14:15:17 6/13/2000 WW - I'd say just about the same things about ST, the Ramseys, Wecht, etc. making a profit as about LHP. In fact, as I thought I indicated in my post, she's got a better excuse than most of the lot. Whether or not it is unfair or reasonable, once you step into a courtroom the fact that you've been paid for your story does tend to make a different. If you've told the same story to the cops and there is converging evidence that lends credibility to what you've said, maybe later selling your story to the tabs wouldn't matter so much. Right or wrong, a connection with a tabloid does not help. v_p - Well, perhaps that is one reason the only book I've bought was Schiller's, and even that made me somewhat uncomfortable. Actually, my use of pigs wasn't intended to be quite as negative as you seem to have taken it. Substitute cats at the saucer or folks at the buffet if you like. The idea is that a lot of people are making a profit off of this, some of whom have much less reason than LHP. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "love to read" Posted by Nandee on 14:10:55 6/13/2000 I've purchased every book, except DOI. If I want to read that, I'll check it out at the library! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "hehehe... " Posted by ConnieToo on 22:46:39 6/13/2000 I just got a new book club subscription with a major site, not amazon. They give you 5 free books for postage and handling. Both the books (DOI and Thomas' book) are included in the set of books you can get free. That made it worth it to finally order and read DOI. I can't wait til it comes. Well, maybe not.. I'll prolly just get more pi$$ed off at the Ramseys.. and that's dangerous!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Ramsey's didn't " Posted by Seeker on 15:10:51 6/13/2000 actually write their own book. Check out the following article: http://www.oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/search_get?ID=468402 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "I consider" Posted by momo on 14:46:43 6/13/2000 LHP a source who is deeply concerned about justice for JonBenet. I really truly believe that she is not doing it for the money. I mean, sure, money helps make the world go around, but I can't honestly, in my heart think that this is a way for Linda to get money. She probably read ST book and then saw the interview on LKL and couldn't keep quiet any longer. I know if I were the maid and in the same position she were in I would do the same thing. I bet we'll all find out she wouldn't accept money or she gave it all to charity. I would think that the tips she offered would be more important than the money. But hey, that's just me! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Again with the pigs :)" Posted by v_p on 15:16:01 6/13/2000 You know who I think are the REAL pigs? The people who know more than they're saying and are either getting their money out of the public eye, like the ex Mrs. Ramsey, or not getting paid but don't have the kahunas to tell what they know or suspect. This wasn't a well thought-out post, but I think you know what I mean - pager went off and derailed my train of thought. V. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "er, I think it's cajones" Posted by ConnieToo on 22:49:45 6/13/2000 kahunas are hawaiian chiefs. :-) Now if we're talking Kaluha, I'd love one, but don't drink since the diabetes diagnosis. EFG!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "V., I understand and agree..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 17:39:49 6/13/2000 There are plenty of dirty rats out there who continue to cover up for the King and Queen of Boulder. In addition to those you mentioned, there's the whole Paugh family, especially Pammy, the evidence thief; Mike Bynum, the crafty shyster; Susan "Butch" Stine, the spin doctor; Penny and Francisco Beuf, pillars of the Epicopal Church and purveyors of rack of lamb; the Reverend Hoverstock (he's a reverend like Jesse Jackson is a reverend}, and the ever-elusive flighty Fernies. That's just to mention a few. Like all dirty rats, they'll get what they deserve some day. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "I just read" Posted by Ribaldone on 18:47:50 6/13/2000 the article link that Seeker posted above. It really pisses me off to read John say they didn't hire a PR staff -- "that's absolutely false." WRONG JOHNBOY! You're absolutely a liar. Pat Korten (spell?) was a PR man. He's the one who arranged the faux-symphathy parade out the front of the Church. And, I believe they had another PR guy after him. No wait . . . that's Lin Wood. Brian Morgan said in the Crock that Haddon & Co. hired the PR firm. So there you have it. His own lawyer admits they had a PR man. And John Ramseys had better not even try to say that he didn't pay for the PR cuz if they had a PR guy, they paid for him. He didn't work for free and I think I can pretty-much guarantee that Hadden & Co. didn't foot the bill. Law firms are not in the habit of footing the bill for client PR, especially when the client is RICH. If a client needs a little spin, they're gonna have to pay for it. Sooo, John Ramsey, you are one BIG F***ING LYING SOB PIECE OF SH*T! I know this is a small point in the whole scheme of things, but it just pissed me off to read that comment and "hear" his arrogant, condesending voice. Lying piece of sh*t! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Ribaldone" Posted by v_p on 19:25:51 6/13/2000 C'mere - hold my hand - let's sing: I love you, you love me, we are happy familyyyy.... Now, take a deep breath :) BTW, I totally agree. Everytime I hear JR say they did not hire a PR firm - that it is a totally false accusation - I get so PO'd. You're right, somebody paid and PR people, good PR people don't come cheap. Bastids V. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Thanks V" Posted by Ribaldone on 19:31:35 6/13/2000 I'm chanting and my blood pressure has returned to normal . . . Ummmmmmmmmm That sure did feel good though. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Maybe he didn't really lie..." Posted by Texan on 20:40:17 6/13/2000 Maybe they didn't hire a whole PR firm - just a PR man. Thus he doesn't feel like he's lying. Still a lie IMO. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Ribaldone," Posted by WitchyWoman on 21:22:22 6/13/2000 Gosh I hope I got your name right. Anyway, I totally agree with you, they DID indeed hire a PR firm, person, whatever. What John worded carefully in one of their interviews was something like this Well, I haven't ever written a check to a PR firm. I thought that was very cagey indeed - no, my guess is he wrote the check to the attorney who in turn wrote the check to the PR firm. These people are liars just like that most famous of all liar. I am sick to death of their thinking they can lie and get away with it. They will pay, I just don't know if it will be in this lifetime. Since I'm getting angry here I want to add their bringing religion into this makes me even madder and I "know" it angers My God. God does not take too kindly to those that make a mockery of Him. WW [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "I'm with you on that..." Posted by ConnieToo on 22:33:14 6/13/2000 This woman has been raked over the coals by the RST, and on this board. She had to move because of jamscum's "tip" to the EffBeeEye, a blatant attempt to throw Marvin under the bus. I don't think she deserves the attacks on her here or anywhere else. I am glad that she has counsel, and may be able to collect damages against the Ramseys. I further would expect her to have been reticent at first, after the Patsy invited her to the funeral, then turned her in. Just goes to show ya that if you are poor and hard-working, that you are still a target of the Patsy and JR. Patsy, I think you're good for it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL ConnieToo ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]