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Boulder Hellhole on market, balisal, 15:58:21, 6/14/2000 Donate Profits to the JBR Foundation?, sabrina, 16:13:09, 6/14/2000, (#1) Who's buying?, balisal, 16:14:31, 6/14/2000, (#2) 755 15th street, guardian, 16:14:40, 6/14/2000, (#3) profits, sask, 16:33:35, 6/14/2000, (#4) Dr Death,, guardian, 16:57:21, 6/14/2000, (#5) I can't believe, Ribaldone, 17:36:08, 6/14/2000, (#6) Here It Is-- Heavens Gate House Sale, sabrina, 17:37:08, 6/14/2000, (#7) Haunted House, pinker, 17:59:35, 6/14/2000, (#8) If I had a spare 1.5 Million..., MrsBrady, 02:28:54, 6/15/2000, (#9) Ma, Chris, 03:12:17, 6/15/2000, (#10) im with you guardian!!!!, toots, 06:26:43, 6/15/2000, (#11) Ah Ha!, MrsBrady, 06:50:01, 6/15/2000, (#12) Well, I'll have you know, Watching you, 06:53:38, 6/15/2000, (#13) Righto!, MrsBrady, 06:59:25, 6/15/2000, (#14) Attention Everybody, Ruthee, 06:59:58, 6/15/2000, (#15) Now, there's a cause, Watching you, 07:28:16, 6/15/2000, (#16) Collection, sabrina, 09:05:03, 6/15/2000, (#17) Sabrina, Watching you, 09:24:28, 6/15/2000, (#18) Aluminum, guardian, 10:21:44, 6/15/2000, (#19) ..don't burn it down, Nikki, 11:27:24, 6/15/2000, (#20) Hellhole Info-Need Help!, Paralegal, 11:52:00, 6/15/2000, (#21) ................................................................... "Boulder Hellhole on market" Posted by balisal on 15:58:21 6/14/2000 Daily Camera--June 14, 2000 BOULDER Ramsey home goes on market for $1.2M John and Patsy Ramseys' former Boulder home is on the market for $1.2 million, nearly twice as much as the couple sold it for to an investor group in 1998. A group of investors bought the former Boulder home from the Ramseys and pledged to resell it at a later date, donating profits to the JonBenét Ramsey Children's Foundation. The group, according to local attorney and Ramsey friend Michael Bynum, is "composed of individuals assisting the Ramsey family." The Ramseys sold the house for $650,000 to an investor group named after the Ramsey home's address, 755 15th St., L.L.C. The Ramseys remain under police suspicion in the death of their daughter, JonBenét, who was found beaten and strangled in the family's basement Dec. 26, 1996. The couple have repeatedly denied any involvement in their daughter's death. The Ramseys bought the 6,800-square-foot Tudor-style Boulder home in 1991 for $500,000. It has since been renovated. The house was sold to the private group Feb. 12, 1998. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Donate Profits to the JBR Foundation?" Posted by sabrina on 16:13:09 6/14/2000 This means they don't have to pay taxes on the profit, right? I wish someone who has the media's attention (NYL?) (Peter?) will expose this foundation for the sham it is!! Who runs it anyway, Susan Stine? It has been in existance for over 2 years. What has it done? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Who's buying?" Posted by balisal on 18:15:47 6/14/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:15:47, 6/14/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:27:47, 6/14/2000 the mind boggles with potential purchasers. I did hear a tiny rumor that a certain obsessed and misguided forum administrator (only clue - it's not Chris), is considering the bussiness(sp.)potential of this residence. Apparently she has asked her registered members to donate their annual subscription for a deposit. So far they only have $150.00. Realtors were asked " Is there room on the front lot for a trailer and does the house have fibre optic wiring?". When this certain person was asked why she wanted to live at this address considering its history, she stated unequivocally. "I personally have a serious problem with people who are making money, stroking their egos and enhancing their reputations off the back of this tragedy." "I have searched through America for a suitable house for a home schooling centre/foster home and I feel if I had a small lobotomy I could probably run a 'Bed and Breakfast'". -------------------------------------------- well it's a first attempt :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "755 15th street" Posted by guardian on 16:14:40 6/14/2000 I can't imagine anyone wanting to live in that house. My first thought was to bulldoze it. But for investigative purposes I'm not ready for that yet. I don't know what they might be but, the house could still hold clues. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "profits" Posted by sask on 16:33:35 6/14/2000 The $$$ from the Death of Innocence was going to be used to pay legal expenses, with the remainder going to the JBR Foundation, according to the Ramseys. I suspect the profit from the house sale will go first to pay for legal expenses, and the leftovers will go to the Foundation. I can't see there being much left over. If the house sells, it will go for nowhere near the asking price. C'mon, only in the Ramsey's self-sponsered, self-inflated world has the Hell Hole doubled in value. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Dr Death," Posted by guardian on 16:57:21 6/14/2000 There is a realtor, I don't know his real name who specializes in houses such as this one. I believe he handled the Heavens gate house, maybe 875 Bundy, and others like that. Does anyone know his name? It would be interesting to get his opinion. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "I can't believe" Posted by Ribaldone on 17:36:44 6/14/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:36:44, 6/14/2000 they would dream of asking that much money for a THAT house with all of his history. OTOH, someone did buy Nicole's condo. But for a very "reasonable" price. I wouldn't live in that house if it were given to me. The only reason I would ever step foot in that hellhole is because JonBenet died there. I can't help but wonder if part of her soul still resides there. I have a feeling that the house has a very "bad" feeling to it. Bad chi. When I was growing up there was a house a couple of blocks from us that absolutely creeped me out so bad I couldn't even stand in front of it. I don't know why, but I just got very erie and bad feeling whenever I was near it. I think that's probably what the Hellhole is like. Dark and creepy and foreboding. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Here It Is-- Heavens Gate House Sale" Posted by sabrina on 17:37:08 6/14/2000 http://www.cnn.com/US/9709/29/briefs.pm/heavensgate.home/index.html The 800# is no longer valid however, I tried it and it goes to a ski trip travel agent. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Haunted House" Posted by pinker on 17:59:35 6/14/2000 I'd rather live in the Bates Motel. The so called investors bought it when no one else would for about half it's worth. What makes them think it would be marketable now? It must be zoned residential so business ventures would be quickly nixed. It would be nice to raze the structure and place a little park in memorial. That gets done frequently when houses burn down and people have died. A couple of paths, maybe a bench or two. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "If I had a spare 1.5 Million..." Posted by MrsBrady on 02:28:54 6/15/2000 I'd bulldoze the house after having a landscaper remove all the shrubs and trees. Then I'd level the land, replant the trees and donate it to the City of Boulder as the "JonBenet Park for Kittens and Puppies" so they can go leashless and poop all they want! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Ma" Posted by Chris on 03:12:17 6/15/2000 And I suppose there would be ashtrays beside every bench? Or Smoking and No Smoking sections? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "im with you guardian!!!!" Posted by toots on 06:26:43 6/15/2000 I wouldn't live in that house even if it was given to me. The thought of someone actually wanting to live there gives me the creeps. Unless of course they filled the basement up with cement. (lol) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Ah Ha!" Posted by MrsBrady on 06:50:01 6/15/2000 Yes! Smoking permitted and ample trash recepticles (with recycling of course) for the beer cans...Jacque would like that and so would Sister Socks, Lollollol... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Well, I'll have you know" Posted by Watching you on 06:53:38 6/15/2000 that on the news last night, they said that pets who breathe in second-hand smoke are 50 percent more likely to get lung cancer. I swear it. You will need smoking and non-smoking sections, Maw. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Righto!" Posted by MrsBrady on 06:59:25 6/15/2000 I changed my mind - I think it should be turned into a parking lot for R.V.'s and for tailgate parties before the CU home games - would serve those dingy neighbors right! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Attention Everybody" Posted by Ruthee on 06:59:58 6/15/2000 Send all your can collecting money to me. I'm going to try to get into that house. My new idea is to buy it. :-) Where there's a will, there's a way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Now, there's a cause" Posted by Watching you on 07:51:10 6/15/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 07:51:10, 6/15/2000 I'll donate to, Ruthie. We'll all collect beer cans, most of us can just dig them out from under our triple-wides, and you can buy the house. Then, we'll all get together and burn the Rams and Ms. youknowho in F-I-G. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Collection" Posted by sabrina on 09:05:03 6/15/2000 I also collect Dr. Pepper cans, do those count too? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Sabrina" Posted by Watching you on 09:24:28 6/15/2000 That'll work. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Aluminum" Posted by guardian on 10:21:44 6/15/2000 is aluminum. It doesn't matter if it comes from beer, Dr Pepper, or whatever you drink. You know I've been thinking seriously all morning about how to buy that house, and what all could be done with it. It could be a residential home for abused children, or women and children. If we as a group could raise the money and buy it, the house could end up being a haven for those in need. The house could also bare JonBenet's name. She would live on forever as a symbol of what cannot be done to children. Guardian JfJB [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "..don't burn it down" Posted by Nikki on 11:27:24 6/15/2000 ..though it is a hellish hole.. ..the little ghost must wander there ..looking for the one who done the deed .. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Hellhole Info-Need Help!" Posted by Paralegal on 11:53:23 6/15/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:53:23, 6/15/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:52:20, 6/15/2000 Ok, called the CO Sec'y. of State this morning to get information regarding ownership of this property. Here is what I got: The limited liability company 755 15th St., LLC was formed 1/21/98; Statutory Agent-Darlene Sommers, 1900 15th St., Boulder CO 80302; Members (unknown manager designation)-Group II Partnership and Group IV Partnership. This corporate formation is typical of investor-type deals that veil the ownership of investment LLC's formed to buy/sell real estate. However, one of you can call the CO Sec'y. of State's office at (303) 894-2251 to find out if these two partnerships have filed certificates. If they have, those certificates should reveal who the partners are in these two entities. Whoever can make this call to get the info, please post it here once obtained. I'd do it myself, but I'm at work...Thanks! Edited to add: This info is public information so there should be no problem getting it or risk of bullchit lawsuits for posting it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]