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A Few Thoughts Regarding Forum Administration, Dunvegan, 23:15:53, 6/26/2001 Thank you, Dunvegan, vic, 23:22:43, 6/26/2001, (#1) Dunvegan, JR, 23:32:43, 6/26/2001, (#2) Dunvegan, Watching you, 04:18:18, 6/27/2001, (#3) Very good, starry, 05:14:34, 6/27/2001, (#4) Dunvegan, Jellyjaws, 08:14:19, 6/27/2001, (#5) Dun, Aurora, 10:08:57, 6/27/2001, (#6) I hope, Florida, 10:36:33, 6/27/2001, (#7) Dunvegan, Tricia, 12:52:10, 6/27/2001, (#8) Dunvegan,, gaiabetsy, 13:02:25, 6/27/2001, (#9) Dunvegan, Ellique, 13:30:58, 6/27/2001, (#10) With attribution, Ellique..., Dunvegan, 18:59:39, 6/27/2001, (#12) Interesting Links, Dunvegan..., LurkerXIV, 20:33:46, 7/02/2001, (#17) its a "dun" deal. i vote for dunvegan., purrplepassion, 18:59:08, 6/27/2001, (#11) *kowtow*, Ayeka, 11:07:30, 6/28/2001, (#13) Go for it..., Charley, 12:41:03, 6/28/2001, (#14) Dunvegan...., Voyager, 12:59:31, 6/28/2001, (#16) So, Nedthan Johns, 12:58:53, 6/28/2001, (#15) I think Dun would be good..., Twitch, 06:19:30, 7/03/2001, (#18) .the only thing is, Sixpence, 13:21:07, 7/03/2001, (#19) Nikki, Edie Pratt, 13:54:15, 7/03/2001, (#20) ..forever, Sixpence, 15:24:55, 7/03/2001, (#21) Sixpence, momo, 17:11:12, 7/03/2001, (#22) ..remember momo, Sixpence, 17:36:20, 7/03/2001, (#23) ................................................................... "A Few Thoughts Regarding Forum Administration" Posted by Dunvegan on 23:26:02 6/26/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 23:26:02, 6/26/2001 A Dozen Dos and Do-Nots (with a dozen "do-nuts") A Few Thoughts Regarding Forum Administration Once upon a time, a decade ago...way back in the previous century, I was happy to serve as sysop for a bulletin bulletin board that the non-profit organization I worked for required. It was as time-consuming as a hungry hippo, it was as heart-warming as it was hair-raising. It was work all the time, but what fascinating work! What wonderful and singular insights did each member bring to the board. It was an endless fount of synergy! But, it's work-upon-work. At it's worst, it was like keeping order among a pack of wolves, and at it's best it was like being part of the smartest, most talented, and wildly exceptional extended family in the world. Since I like trouble, discourse, and am as much a glutton for work as I am for fun, I loved the experience. About a third of the work was purely technical, a third a large heaping portion of "administrivia," and the last part was the work of learning how to apply common sense and ethics to what was a relatively new medium. It was an enormous undertaking to provide a community resource. It was worth all the work it was. Chris Wheeler has invested an ocean of sweat and tears, and many years of her life, into Justice Watch. Make no mistake: forum administration is a hard job. I know that all of us are deeply grateful for her many personal sacrifices on behalf of us, and on behalf of the forum. I think that we are all thankful for Chris' efforts to establish this board as the "forum of record" for the Ramsey case; and to consistently provide a faithful and enduring venue where we can meet together in our search for justice for a murdered child...Justice for JonBenet. There is no higher tribute that I can raise Chris to than to say that she is a exemplary champion for children's rights. She has done the work to raise consciousness by maintaining a forum to pursue both JfJBR and to publicize the plight of missing and exploited children. Chris Wheeler and Justice Watch has helped every one of us in seeking a higher standard of justice for all children everywhere. Thank you, Chris...I have so appreciated your work and this place in the world: thank you. About this rambling treatise: Many very fine works have been written about "Netiquette." They are available on the web, just type "netiquette" into any search engine. These days there seems to be a good deal of talk about what any subsequent version of Justice Watch should be like. I offer my ramblings. What I learned during my stint long ago and far away as a forum administrator...take it for what it's worth: you can either read or scroll. I hope you don't mind...I tend towards complete essays in my dotage. (The donuts are because it's a long dissertation, and you just might need the sugar boost....) 1: Remember the Human Factor Respect the forum membership, and promote respect among the forum members. Forums are communities, and bring together people from all walks of life, and all possible ranges of the "Human Experience." Understand and foster diversity in discourse. Assist in integrating all sincere and serious points of view. Serve the community. 2: Expect and Promote the Same Standards of Behavior Online That You Follow in Real Life Actively encourage members to use Justice Watch to express themselves freely, to explore and investigate obscure and difficult case issues, and to discuss topics that may lead to interesting developments in the case. But remind the membership: Those are real people out there. The "Golden Rule" applies in spades in cyberspace...post unto others as you would have posted about yourself. Forum members should be encouraged to take this simple test: would you say what you're saying in your post directly to the person's face? If not, it's better left unsaid, or at the very least taken to a no-holds barred area of the forum. Never impose inflexible censorship, but consider employing a judicious separation of extremes in emotionality to a suitable, un-monitored forum space. Careful: weigh these decisions as free speech issues...not as personal prejudice. Of course, it's possible that some forum members would feel just Jim-dandy about saying something extremely rude to a person's face. In that case, the administrator must step in with the concern of a Doctor Welby, and the justice of a Sheriff Andy Taylor...always making sure that Barney keeps his bullet securely buttoned down in his pocket. :o) The trick lies in being level-headed and fair-minded enough to know when and when not to do this. Don't be too aloof to consult with the community. Remember: nobody likes "a loof". :o) 3: Know What it Means to a Part of "Cyberspace" Another reason not to be offensive online: When you communicate through cyberspace in a discussion groups - remember that your words are written...and that this is the World Wide Web. Even on a "private forum" chances are those words are stored somewhere where you have no control over them. In other words, there's a good chance they can come back to haunt you. Just as things have a way of disappearing in a trice online, some things have an amazing way of "sticking" in cyberspace...a cross or venomous post can certainly be copied by someone (or something, i.e. a WebCrawler) and archived for all eternity. But, for just the reason above, a forum can also be an indispensable and incredibly vital part of an lengthy and undeterminable investigation. A forum administrator has a responsibility to administer a on-going reference for both the community it serves, and the greater public at large. A forum can be a "Investigation Library Reference" or an "Instigation Libel Resort"...the difference depends on the leadership. Encourage posters to understand that, as it relates to copyright and libel, the World Wide Web is still the Wild, Wild West: legal questions regarding the Internet are still being written...but morality and integrity always apply, and remain timeless. Educate forum members on legal and privacy issues, without becoming pedantic and fussy. Create a section on the forum where members can go to learn about the laws of conduct, legal repercussions of actions, and the "netiquette" of cyberspace. And...always encourage members to think before they post. 4: Foster Respect for the Time and Bandwidth of Members and the Forum The word "bandwidth" is sometimes used synonymously with time, but it's really two different things. Bandwidth is the information-carrying capacity of the wires and channels that connect everyone in cyberspace. There's usually a limit to the amount of bandwidth that many ISP (Internet Service Providers) allow for a forum's monthly quota (like a cell phone plan.) Once the quota has been breached, the money-clock starts ticking very loudly. Just as every minute over your cell phone calling plan limit is billed at a premium, so is service provider billing (only more so.) A $500 monthly fixed fee/fixed bandwidth bill can jump to a $1000 bill very quickly when you surpass the monthly limit. Yet, on a slow month, you might not even near your limits. Just something to remember about the nuts-and-bolts of running an online service. Many users dial-up for their Internet access, or have browsers that are slow, so just opening a posted thread can take a while for them. You can't "just scroll" until you load the entire thread. A forum administrator has to walk the tightrope of allowing discussion, while encouraging concise thought and thread management. Not to mention estimating monthly bandwidth usage and conservation. It's a "do-the-math" and then "guesstimate-the-rest" proposition, since you're stuck with the bill for the plan at the end of the month, in accordance with what you agreed to at the beginning of the month. Not easy. But, this sort of calculation can be critical to ensuring that a forum remains accessible and financially viable. No forum administrator I've personally know has been in it for the money...to say the least. 5: Share Expert Knowledge And The Integrity Of Reference Materials Keep an online archive of posts. It's an invaluable resource for the forum community and the world-at-large. The archives are a forum's fortune and legacy. They are important. Oh...and don't forget to do your backups once and a while! (And, test the backups to make certain they really can restore the forum, come the day you need them...and that day WILL come!) 6: Keep Flame Wars Under Control Ah...consider the complete picture, the "art and artifice" of that quaint custom known online as "flaming" before pulling out either the flame-thrower or the fire-hose. Any miscreant, or Miss West Virginia wannabe, with an e-mail account and an Internet connection can ignite a firestorm of ill-conceived and boring flames. OTOH, it takes talent and genius to flame with élan. And a forum can always use an administrator with the discretion to know the difference. There's little worse in the life of a forum than an escalating flame war that barges into the middle of a civil and constructive discourse. Usually the innocent readers and posters recoil and remove themselves from the violence, like shopkeepers barring their doors during a sudden street riot. Flame wars quash constructive discussion, suck up bandwidth like a grass fire, and seldom contribute anything more than a large smoking pile of charred forum threads. As forum host it is good to point out that it's generally considered rude (at best) to subject other readers on a forum to a protracted flame war, especially when it gets personal. Perhaps more importantly, prolonged participation in a flame war can get a poster a pretty bad reputation online. Forums are a form of publishing...don't forget that you have an audience. Imagine losing the respect of hundreds -perhaps thousands- of people you've never even met...but have become known to...it is very possible. In the worst-case scenario, a protracted flame war can destroy a forum. Inevitably, the least common denominator principle takes hold, and the group sinks to the level of the loudest and lowest flamers. An administrator must step in with firm hand, level head, and fair heart at this point and mediate a cease-fire immediately for the good of all. Administrators also need to know when real laws have been breached to both protect the forum, and even to protect some posters from their own good-intentions-gone-ballistic. One method is to privately e-mail the combatants regarding the fact that their behaviour is not appropriate. No need to post this note to the forum at large. This way only the forum administrator and the member discuss the thorny issue -not everyone on the forum- which, all too often, is a prescription for a whole new round of flame war. Be friendly about it. If several people post inappropriate messages within a space of a few days, it may be a sign that it's time to re-educate regarding the forum rules. But again, say it nicely: (as I say often to my friend Lori: "be Civil, not Sybil!" :o) 7: Respect and Defend Member Privacy Because I work in the information security sector, this is an issue that I feel strongly about. Protect your members against "cyberspace predators." Some people use their cyberspace connections to gain the trust of others and then take advantage of them in real life. Never pass on identity information about one poster to another. I can't think of any exception to this rule, unless a poster claims to be harming themselves...in which case, inform the authorities. Create a brief privacy policy, and post it on the forum. Honor the policy. Don't ever, ever, ever give out mailing lists or e-mail addresses of your members for any (even a charitable) reason. Private lives should be kept just that. Harassment, by one member of to another, should not be tolerated (OTOH, saying "Bite me!" is perfectly fine.) Use good judgment and your best moral standards in handling the privacy of the forum membership. It is a public trust, and it is critical to good governance. It's good ethics, too. 8: Don't Abuse Administrative Power You'd think this would go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: power corrupts. It doesn't happen often, but we all know what forums are like where the administrator has "Jammed" their totalitarian agenda down the gullets of the membership. ;o) Fortunately, if a forum is run as a community, even the administrator doesn't have to worry about absolute power and the inevitable comeuppance of such. Community means feedback and discussion. It's easy to "rule" in a vacuum, harder to be a fascist in a family. Forum administrators should be cautious, but fair, in exercising their administrative power. There should be posted rules that not only govern the conduct of posters, but rules that outline the circumscription of the administrator's powers. For example: administrators should not read private e-mail, unless a breach of security requires investigation. This should be an extremely, extremely rare occurrence. There will be situations where the administrator will need to consult their own moral compass for direction. Remember, however, to communicate with the community while working through difficult decisions. Ultimately, it is the forum admin that must make the hard decisions, but if the forum admin sees themselves as part of the forum community, instead as ultimate ruler, it will probably be the best decision for the forum itself. And every once and a while, question authority. In other words, take a step back and try to get some personal perspective on your administration. It can really re-focus things, and it prevents over-amperage and burn-out, too. 9: Be Forgiving Of Poster's Mistakes Forgive people. Educate. Resolve. If you do decide to inform someone of a mistake, point it out politely, and preferably by private e-mail rather than in public. Give people the benefit of the doubt; assume they just don't know any better: don't ascribed to malice what can more easily be attributed to ignorance. And never be arrogant or self-righteous about it. Be kind. 10: Nurture the Newbies; Honor the Old-Timers Newbies: Welcome newcomers. If the administrator can do this via an automated introduction to the community which follows any new user's initial forum post, that's extra special good. Minimally, welcome newcomers with a message via e-mail that accompanies their registration authorization notification. Include in this message an outline of (or a pointer to) the rules of the forum, hyperlinks to the forum FAQ and archives...and include encouragement for the newbie member to explore and encourages them to post. Provide an open atmosphere for discussion. Assist new members by providing online resources so that they will not be forced, or feel it necessary, to begin their life on the forum with a lot of "square-one" posts requesting a summary of "The History of the World to Date." All that being said...encourage the fresh air a newbie brings...help them along...nurture them. It pays off seven-fold when they've become one of the Oldies. Old-Timers: The forum's core membership is the foundation of the forum. The bedrock. An inestimable wealth of history and knowledge, support and strength, energy and evangelism. Do not take them for granted. Take time to seriously ponder their suggestions because they are your past, your future, and your constituency. 11: Listen To The Forum This is the best advice I have. Listen to the forum as if it were a book, or a song. Listen to the individual voices and the choruses. Listen to the membership. Listen to your own best judgement. 12: Stay True to the Mission The people that are here are here because we share a common goal, a common cause. It is simply this: justice for children. Whenever anything blows smoke over the forum, clouds the issues, causes storms or tempests in everyone's teapot, a good administrator will pay attention to the original mission. You can reset you compass by it. It is this: Justice for all children. Justice for JonBenet. (Thanks everyone. Hope you enjoyed the donuts.) [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Thank you, Dunvegan" Posted by vic on 23:22:43 6/26/2001 You described the job so perfectly. If there was anything about it I didn't understand, I do now. I vote for you. Are you running? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Dunvegan" Posted by JR on 23:32:43 6/26/2001 Thanks for the advice and the donuts. How did you know my favorite is chocolate covered? ;-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Dunvegan" Posted by Watching you on 04:18:37 6/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 04:18:37, 6/27/2001 this is an outstanding guide for forum administration and the very best advice anyone could ever take. I hope the new administrators will print it out and use it as their bible. Maybe YOU need to be our new administrator? No? Well, just thought I'd try. Thanks, Dun. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Very good" Posted by starry on 05:14:34 6/27/2001 Dunvegan!!!!!! One question? Where could we find such a person? There's only one Chris. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Dunvegan" Posted by Jellyjaws on 08:14:19 6/27/2001 My, my. Now I know why I call you, "The Professor." What an intelligent and thoughtful post. You made my day, Dunvegan! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Dun" Posted by Aurora on 10:08:57 6/27/2001 You sure summed that up nicely. Any chance of you taking up the torch? YOU have my vote! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "I hope" Posted by Florida on 10:36:33 6/27/2001 that the person who takes the reins at JW has the insight and common sense approach to forum management that Dunvegan does. A most excellent post and one that is useful not only for forum administrators but for all of us in our real life relationships too. Thanks, Dunvegan [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Dunvegan" Posted by Tricia on 12:52:10 6/27/2001 I want to be as smart as you when I grow up:) Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Dunvegan," Posted by gaiabetsy on 13:02:25 6/27/2001 Please take over! We need you! No one on this forum ever wants to give up. We need you to keep us going. Please consider the idea. I vote for you! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Dunvegan" Posted by Ellique on 13:30:58 6/27/2001 My I use you "Guide" It will come inhandy when I buy the forum and "you know who" takes over for me. Love, Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "With attribution, Ellique..." Posted by Dunvegan on 19:02:27 6/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:02:27, 6/27/2001 ...anyone is welcome to use these musings...of course, US copyright regarding intellectual property (which should go without saying) applies. From: The U.S. Copyright Office "Copyright Law of the United States of America and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code; Circular 92" Chapter 1 - Subject: Matter and Scope of Copyright http://www.loc.gov/copyright/title17/92chap1.html#101 (a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship include the following categories: (1) literary works; (2) musical works, including any accompanying words; (3) dramatic works, including any accompanying music; (4) pantomimes and choreographic works; (5) pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works; (6) motion pictures and other audiovisual works; (7) sound recordings; and (8) architectural works. The revised U.S. copyright laws are wonderful: the mere act of publishing a work automatically copyrights it in the US. Consider scribing to this forum a fixed form...e.g., publishing. As it says in "Who Can Claim Copyright": http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wccc "Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright." Attribution is fair pay for value, in the case of this this particular essay. Reprint only with attribution to the author...it's not just good manners, it's the law. However, you may consider the underlying concepts, ideas, and general philosophy to be in the public domain. Sorry. I do not know who "you know who" is supposed to be. Edited to add the second link. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Interesting Links, Dunvegan..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 20:33:46 7/02/2001 ..on the new copyright laws. I wasn't aware of the changes. Thanks for helping me to be better informed about a very important issue! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "its a "dun" deal. i vote for dunvegan." Posted by purrplepassion on 18:59:08 6/27/2001 that is exactly what this forum needs.... everything you posted. i vote for you dunvegan. i first voted for JR, but she said she can be pushed to flame. why are flamers allowed at all? i dont understand that. shouldnt all their posts be deleted immediatley? dunvegan, i have to ask.... do you want the job?? be honest........let us all know. thanks for your brillance and level head! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "*kowtow*" Posted by Ayeka on 11:07:30 6/28/2001 Dunvegan, you are the voice of wisdom and reason. Thank you for putting into words things I have known for so so long. I've survived more flame wars (mailing lists, not forums) than I can shake a stick at over the last... 10 years (?!) and you couldn't have written truer words. Bright blessings to you and yours, Ayeka [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Go for it..." Posted by Charley on 12:41:03 6/28/2001 Dun.......You would make a great forum leader! Someone with compassion, intelligence, sense of humor and willingness to find justice for all God's children [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Dunvegan...." Posted by Voyager on 12:59:31 6/28/2001 You certainly seem to understand the position in total...both pros and cons and you see the "big picture" from the mountain top of experience.... You have the technical experience, the intelligence, the expressed morals, and the sense of humor....do you have the time and the desire to be the administrator of this very active and opinionated forum JW? Personally, I think you would be great for the forum and that you would do a fine job....now for the BIG question...Have you applied? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "So" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 12:58:53 6/28/2001 Who is in contension for taking over? Chris decided yet? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "I think Dun would be good..." Posted by Twitch on 06:19:30 7/03/2001 JR, Tricia, Sparky, Baybb, China...lots of others. I have noticed that fly is not posting lately. Is that because he/she is lining things up to take over the forum? That'd be great too. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. ".the only thing is" Posted by Sixpence on 13:21:07 7/03/2001 ..without Chris there will be no true Justice Watch..banged, clanged, torn usunder...bitched and moaned and flames sometimes flying like a backyard BBQ it was still JW.. ..sorry, but the only way justice for the murdered child of Boulder will be obtained is through confession...and that will not happen.. ..it is hard ..I've been here since the beginning...the Alpha. ..it seems time for the Omega ..no matter how brillant someone is or how much knowledge they have obtained..this has to do with heart..... ..and truly the heart beat for justice is slowing..it's turned into a circus of horrors and lawsuits... ..fodder for the mouthpieces and the Ramsey-sway to obtain and recoup their financial losses.. ..I hold no hope that the intruder theory is the hidden Truth.. ..my Truth sleeps beneath the dogwood tree and throughout these many years I have tried to give her a voice so that she might speak... ..it is time to let go ..you can never go home again... ..and that goes for us, ..and a once tiny dancer named JonBenet ..I love you little child, ..may the birds of the field cover you over with the leaves of spring and fall ..and let the dewdrops sparkle on your grave as you once sparkled for your little world to see... ..you truly were a treasure, little one ..God Bless You Starbaby ..Nikki [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Nikki" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:54:15 7/03/2001 God Bless You, too, beautiful poet. JFJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "..forever" Posted by Sixpence on 15:24:55 7/03/2001 ..JFJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Sixpence" Posted by momo on 17:11:12 7/03/2001 Your posts will be one of the many things I will miss. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "..remember momo" Posted by Sixpence on 17:36:20 7/03/2001 ,,not me ..but this child who was shattered like a glass tree ornament.. ..say her name and she will never die... ...as for who touched her thigh and made Death smile....we may never truly know... ...but the spirit of the Universe does...and the wheels go round and round.. ..Nik [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE