Justice Watch Discussion Board "johnnyram took a rope" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... johnnyram took a rope, Greenleaf, 18:20:11, 6/29/2000 Greenie,, filomena, 19:08:26, 6/29/2000, (#1) Greenleaf, scarab, 20:51:08, 6/29/2000, (#2) Greenie, Sioux, 21:04:22, 6/29/2000, (#3) Is that really, Gemini, 22:15:35, 6/29/2000, (#4) Gemini, Greenleaf, 00:48:30, 6/30/2000, (#5) Greenleaf, ddown, 05:53:03, 6/30/2000, (#17) Go Greenleaf, Kip, 01:02:49, 6/30/2000, (#7) Kip, Greenleaf, 01:10:36, 6/30/2000, (#8) struck down in her own home, Greenleaf, 00:54:30, 6/30/2000, (#6) filomena, scarab, Sioux , Greenleaf, 01:16:27, 6/30/2000, (#9) Greenie, momo, 03:31:30, 6/30/2000, (#10) thank you momo, Greenleaf, 03:54:20, 6/30/2000, (#12) Greenie, momo, 04:15:00, 6/30/2000, (#14) Greenleaf, Orsen, 03:43:46, 6/30/2000, (#11) Brava!, Anton, 04:13:17, 6/30/2000, (#13) ..someone and someone and someone, Nikki, 06:46:19, 6/30/2000, (#18) Greenleaf!, mary99, 05:14:07, 6/30/2000, (#16) Greenleaf, 1000Sparks, 05:04:36, 6/30/2000, (#15) thank you all, Greenleaf, 07:08:44, 6/30/2000, (#19) Greenleaf,, filomena, 07:19:39, 6/30/2000, (#20) filomena, Greenleaf, 07:53:25, 6/30/2000, (#21) Greenleaf, Dianne E., 09:05:41, 6/30/2000, (#22) Bravo Greenie, Ribaldone, 09:20:28, 6/30/2000, (#23) Dianne E., Ribaldone, Greenleaf, 09:56:06, 6/30/2000, (#25) Two wrongs don't make it right, Gemini, 09:52:59, 6/30/2000, (#24) Gemini, Greenleaf, 10:50:07, 6/30/2000, (#27) Oh Boy..., Dianne E., 10:11:51, 6/30/2000, (#26) thumb's up, Seashell, 11:06:45, 6/30/2000, (#28) Greenie, momo, 11:12:49, 6/30/2000, (#29) Emily Greenleafson, Edie Pratt, 11:22:15, 6/30/2000, (#30) ..edie pratt, Nikki, 11:54:15, 6/30/2000, (#31) Blackbirds and dark teas, Edie Pratt, 12:04:14, 6/30/2000, (#33) Greenie,, gaiabetsy, 12:01:39, 6/30/2000, (#32) ..but you edie pratt,, Nikki, 14:25:39, 6/30/2000, (#34) Forgive me, Edie Pratt, 15:36:19, 6/30/2000, (#36) Greenleaf, Starling, 14:49:49, 6/30/2000, (#35) Justice for JonBenet.., Greenleaf, 15:38:33, 6/30/2000, (#37) ................................................................... "johnnyram took a rope" Posted by Greenleaf on 18:20:11 6/29/2000 Johnnyram took a rope And tied it 'round his baby's throat Not so sure that she was dead He whacked her once o'er the head He called upon the weeping mother To bath and dress, and then to cover Their limp, rag doll, lifeless child Who never again would laugh or smile Johnnyram took a pad And helped write the note to dear old Dad "We have your daughter," is the way it read "Talk to a stray dog, and she'll be dead" He greeted the cop at the door In the cordial mood of a first class bore Nary a tear in his cold, cruel eyes Nor was he shaken or looked surprised Johnnyram took a drink After washing his hands in the basement sink Nothing to do but pace and wait While his murdered child laid near the grate Oh, what to do? What to do? (No call was meant to ever come through) The female cop checked her gun As angry, dark clouds hid the sun Johnnyram took his feet And made a bee-line to the street Odd, but true, this gruesome tale He just had to get and read his mail All the while the people there Were biting their nails and pulling their hair But Johnnyram was cordial and cool Sipping his drink and playing the fool Johnnyram ignored the order To start the search at the top of the border He ran down the stairs, through the dark aisle Straight to the room, where lay his dead child He carried her upstairs, like a piece of old wood He was playing his part the best he could From cordial to weepy, he changed in a flash And dismissed all questions which were asked Johnnyram took the phone Into the Den, where he thought he was alone He was making haste to get out of town But the cop who heard him put the phone down He was not mad, nor did he cry He cared not for the who; just for the why He seemed not to hear his wife's loud wail His only concern was staying out of jail Johnnyram wrote a book With hopes of getting off the hook The public read it and really got mad They didn't care much for the killing Dad He once led a rich, up-scaled life Now he points fingers at his wife They both have lied, and they know why Their darling daughter had to die Johnnyram might take a rope And place it 'round his age-spot throat If he's stilled beneath the tree Bells will chime for JohnnyB by Greenleaf (copyrighted) June 29, 2000 [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Greenie," Posted by filomena on 19:08:26 6/29/2000 Don't like him much, now do ya? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL filomena ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Greenleaf" Posted by scarab on 20:51:08 6/29/2000 A horrid tale - but beautifully written poem. Thanks you-- scarab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Greenie" Posted by Sioux on 21:04:22 6/29/2000 Great job, as always. "You are good at it"! Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Is that really" Posted by Gemini on 22:15:35 6/29/2000 your idea of a fitting memorial to a lovely little girl, GL? Hope it gave you some fun. (shudder) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Gemini" Posted by Greenleaf on 00:48:30 6/30/2000 I got up in the middle of the night and decided to write Chris and ask her to delete my johnnyram poem. Then, I read your post. Where ever did you get the idea this was a tribute to jonbenet? It was meant to be harsh, bold and chilling. Excuse me, Gem, but that's what jonbenet's murder was; cold and cruel and heartless. It was not pretty. Her lips were blue; her body was stiff; her neck was chocked; her skull was fractured. My God! I was not trying to write a sweet ballad. How cruel of you, Gem, to suggest I was having fun. I was (and am) ANGRY! All people should feel ANGRY that this not only happened, but there has been no justice. All roads, imho, lead to the rams. You have inspired me to write another poem, which I'll post next. In the meantime, Gem, your place up on your high fence does not afford you the clear view we have here, on the ground. I do not write for your amusement, Gem; However, it would be nice if we could agree to disagree. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Greenleaf" Posted by ddown on 05:53:03 6/30/2000 I read, understood, and appreciated your poem. I believe most posters on this forum who have been around even a little while would have known your poetic intent. Gem: The HIGHEST post on the fence can afford an encompassing perspective, but is always somewhat occluded. I'm not surprised you didn't understand Greenleaf's post. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL ddown ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Go Greenleaf" Posted by Kip on 01:02:49 6/30/2000 Enjoyed your poem--very clever. It in no way demeaned JonBenet. In fact, clever things like this that might get passed around, keeps people interested in the case. I despair that JBR's parent(s) will get what they deserve in any court of law, but if everywhere they go for the rest of their days, they are pointed at and whispered about and snubbed, it's some puni [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Kip" Posted by Greenleaf on 01:10:36 6/30/2000 Thank you for that. You have no idea how encouraging your words are to me. GL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "struck down in her own home" Posted by Greenleaf on 00:54:30 6/30/2000 jonbenet, so young and sweet with laughing eyes and dancing feet died on Christmas night not a casualty of some cruel war or a victim of a speeding car she was struck down in her own home chocked and hit and left alone on a cold basement floor it is horrendous and so very sad and under the umbrella is her mom and dad alive and well and eating lamb not causalities of some cruel press they are victims of their very own mess and they live a brand new home where most decent folks leave them alone on a cold narrow street Greenleaf c [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "filomena, scarab, Sioux " Posted by Greenleaf on 01:16:27 6/30/2000 filomena, you got that right; no, I do not like him one little bit. scarab, I appreciated the lovely comment. And, yes, it is a horrible tale. Sioux, thank you very much. GL . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Greenie" Posted by momo on 03:59:36 6/30/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 03:59:36, 6/30/2000 Now why don't you tell us how you really feel! LOL. You have a great gift for writing poems. They come from the heart. Seems some are not as angry as I am about how brutal JonBenet's death really was. Most of us are so angry that posting how we REALLY feel would probably get us thrown off the forum. I thought you did it in a tactful way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "thank you momo" Posted by Greenleaf on 03:54:20 6/30/2000 I cry out for all abused and murdered children everywhere. This case will never end, unless and until an arrest or arrests are made. Yes, jonbenet departed this world in the most gruesome way imaginable. It should never be sugar coated. She was strangled to death, beat over the head and sexually abused. My God! It can't get much worse than that. I do apologize to any and all I may have offended with my poems. That certainly wasn't my intent; However, we need (imho) some mechanism to keep this gruesome picture of her murder before the public. She was murdered in her own home on Christmas night. She didn't just die, and it certainly wasn't "an event." It was child abuse and murder; felony one murder. May this special child (and all murdered children everywhere) rest in peace and may their murderers be brought to justice. Amen. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Greenie" Posted by momo on 04:15:00 6/30/2000 I guess you have noticed I edited my post. I just get so mad that I really show my emotions about this case. I can only imagine the pain that JonBenet suffered. Think about how deep the furrows were in her neck! Someone choked the life out of that poor baby! And fractured her skull 8 1/2 inches! Come on! That was brutal savagery! Nothing anyone can say after the fact can even TOUCH that! If that poem chills to the bone then it should! That is nothing compared to the cold, lifeless hell she lay in as her parents scurried about 1 floor above her, plotting and scheming to detract from the truth of her murder! I utterly despise scum like that! They are pure filth! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Greenleaf" Posted by Orsen on 03:43:46 6/30/2000 I liked reading this, it was very good, in fact I think I'll go read it again. What is this 'Amazing Grace' piece you wrote? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Brava!" Posted by Anton on 04:13:17 6/30/2000 A definite save, both pieces. Your gift with words is inspiring. Sometimes the case seems to drift into a "case" of details and we too often get bogged down in the minutiae of who did what when and how. The fact remains, this was a little girl abused for 6 years and bludgeoned to death, strangled by someone she loved and depended upon for the life that person took away from her. People who are offended by truth are themselves offensive, IMO. Great job! Anton [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "..someone and someone and someone" Posted by Nikki on 06:47:01 6/30/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:47:01, 6/30/2000 ..knows. ..I'm not sure it was the father...but a darkfeathered bird came to pluck the blossom from the tree.. ..black as the night that took her... ..can we know the Truth of it? ..Godspeed, ..and thank you for the poesy. ..JFJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Greenleaf!" Posted by mary99 on 05:14:07 6/30/2000 What talent! It's a great piece of writing and it comes from the heart. Reminds me of the rhymed verse Oscar Wilde wrote after being released from prison-his last literary effort was tragic and utterly real. The tragedy of JonBenet's murder is not diminished by your poetry. It's the circumstances of the murder itself and the Ramseys subsequent behavior, which you effectively described, that may cause our distress. Please don't regret writing it or posting it. Personally, I find the continous use of 'beaten and strangled' in numerous accounts of JB's murder to be irreverent. Let's not lose sight of the fact that it was much more gruesome than that, and to gloss over it is to lose sight of the true nature of the murderer. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Greenleaf" Posted by 1000Sparks on 05:04:36 6/30/2000 There is no way any of your posts should ever offend anyone if they see them for what they are. You tell it like it is and I love you for that. Sparks [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "thank you all" Posted by Greenleaf on 07:08:44 6/30/2000 ddown, you wrote: "I read, understood, and appreciated your poem. I believe most posters on this forum who have been around even a little while would have known your poetic intent." What a lovely comment. Thank you, ddown. Thanks again, momo. You wrote: "I can only imagine the pain that JonBenet suffered." If I succeed in making others revisit the horror of that Christmas night, perhaps I will have made a small dent in this public sea of judicial apathy. Orsen, thank you for the compliment. I believe it was starry who asked me to repost "Amazing Grace." I am so embarrassed, because I do not remember writing it. I rarely ever save any of my posts. Maybe sweet Chris can try and find it. I did try and search the archives, but, for some reason, cannot get in. Anton, you wrote: "The fact remains, this was a little girl abused for 6 years and bludgeoned to death, strangled by someone she loved and depended upon for the life that person took away from her." Thank you, Anton. There was no intruder, and, at this point in time, it's ludicrous to sleuth that route. It was an inside job and there were only two adults in the house that night. Nothing the rams say or do can alter that fact. mary99, you wrote: "Reminds me of the rhymed verse Oscar Wilde.." You could hardly give me a greater compliment. I have read just about everything he ever wrote and am a great admirer. Thanks again, mary, for your kind words. 1000Sparks, you wrote: "You tell it like it is and I love you for that." Thanks, Sparky. Dear Nikki, you wrote: ".I'm not sure it was the father...but a darkfeathered bird came to pluck the blossom from the tree.." Thank you, Nikki. It was a mean bird, indeed. Thanks to one and all. Peace. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Greenleaf," Posted by filomena on 07:19:39 6/30/2000 Sorry, I should have added that I am a great fan of yours, I always scan to read your posts first, and that your stuff is very well thought out. JR gives me the creepies too! Gemini just doesn't get it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL filomena ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. " filomena" Posted by Greenleaf on 07:53:25 6/30/2000 Thanks for clearing that up. I really thought you were angry with me and didn't like my post. Since you were the first person to respond, I was downhearted, after reading your comment, and considered deleting my post. Anyway, filomena, thanks for that very nice comment. It was very much appreciated. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Greenleaf" Posted by Dianne E. on 09:05:41 6/30/2000 I stand in awe (well actually sit in awe:) for your talent and heartfelt message. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Bravo Greenie" Posted by Ribaldone on 09:20:28 6/30/2000 You're a poet and you knowit! Lizzie Borden's name is instantly recognizable nearly 100 years after her crime because of the little ditty that someone penned about her. "Lizzie Borden took an axe Gave her mother 40 wacks When she saw what she had done she gave her father 41" Maybe your poetry can do the same for JonBenet so that people will instantly recall her name and horrible murder 100 years later. She should never be forgotten, nor should those who so brutally ended her life. Excellent Greenleaf. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Dianne E., Ribaldone" Posted by Greenleaf on 09:56:06 6/30/2000 Dianne E., what can I say but thank you very much? Ribaldone, yes, I agree. Lizzie Borden is indeed still talked about, some 100 yrs. after the brutal murder of her father and stepmother. And, yes, I think she did it. I can't hope to compete with the author of the Borden ditty, as it has survived all these yrs. Anyway, Ribaldone, you, Dianne E. and others, have warmed the cockles of this old lady's heart. By the way, my birthday was this past Monday. I celebrated it in New Orleans, with my family. While there, I saw the D-Day (WWII) museum, and it is wonderful. (I lost two brothers during WWII) Thanks again, JW friends. Peace to all, Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Two wrongs don't make it right" Posted by Gemini on 09:52:59 6/30/2000 I get real weary of the snide insinuations of a few here (very few, BTW) that suggest anyone who does not agree with them ... or, more importantly, anyone who has the confidence to call a foul foul, is somehow less sincere, less horrified, less caring toward JfJB. It's an ad hominem attack, a self-serving ploy, nothing more. But, the true evil of JonBenet's murder does not make the content of this origin post right. IMO, it's inappropriate, offensive and ... well ... just wrong. GL, there's a whole, wide world between flag pole sitters and bottom dwellers. Given the choice, you betcha I'd climb that pole. But, y'know, that's not really necessary. My parents had the decency and foresight to teach me to swim. For that, I'm eternally grateful. Whatever, I won't open this thread again. Just not interested in wallowing in the "... dark teatime of the soul" (thanks Douglas) with you. It doesn't serve to seek justice ... just reeks of self-indulgence. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Gemini" Posted by Greenleaf on 10:50:07 6/30/2000 Gemini, you wrote: "Two wrongs don't make it right" Whatever are you talking about? Whose two wrongs? Yours and mine? Other posters and mine? Yours and other posters? I am not trying to be a nit picker, but I honestly do not know what you mean. "I get real weary of the snide insinuations of a few here (very few, BTW) that suggest anyone who does not agree with them ... or, more importantly, anyone who has the confidence to call a foul foul, is somehow less sincere, less horrified, less caring toward JfJB." Are you the poster with the "confidence to call a foul foul?" " It's an ad hominem attack, a self-serving ploy, nothing more." Ah, Gemini, the antithesis of ad hominem is logic and reason. Are you the pillar of logic here, from which we should strive to emulate? Dear me. I think not. " But, the true evil of JonBenet's murder does not make the content of this origin post right. IMO, it's inappropriate, offensive and ... well ... just wrong." Well, now we have it! I, old Greenleaf, am now the "true evil" here. Gem, I tell you, you're a laugh a minute. " GL, there's a whole, wide world between flag pole sitters and bottom dwellers. Given the choice, you betcha I'd climb that pole. But, y'know, that's not really necessary. My parents had the decency and foresight to teach me to swim. For that, I'm eternally grateful." But, Gemini, your parents failed to teach you good manners. "Whatever, I won't open this thread again." Well, dear Gem, you'll have to rely on the kindness of strangers to translate for you. Maybe your friends on the mountain. They're probably scribbling notes to you, as I post. "Just not interested in wallowing in the "... dark teatime of the soul" (thanks Douglas) with you. Ah, Gem, that is rich! May I quote you? "It doesn't serve to seek justice ... just reeks of self-indulgence." Honestly, Gem, you could have made an effort to end your tirade on a friendlier note. I must go now. It's time for us "bottom dwellers" to start "wallowing in the ... dark teatime" of our souls. Thank you for that, but personally, heights give me nose bleeds and I like coffee myself. Gem, that was priceless. Thank you. Yours truly, Greenleaf Peace and love. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Oh Boy..." Posted by Dianne E. on 10:11:51 6/30/2000 ..Greenie, pay no attention to the peanut gallery, most creative types throughout history are often criticized by those who have little understanding of true talent. A talent such as yours stands above the little people. Attacking the artist proves the work has hit a cord. How on earth could any artist continue to produce if they took to heart the negative side of others views? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "thumb's up" Posted by Seashell on 11:06:45 6/30/2000 Thank you, Greenleaf, for a moving and chilling expose on jonnyboy and the murder. I hope docg doesn't miss this. And I wish you'd come back to the limerick thread. Hugs to you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Greenie" Posted by momo on 11:12:49 6/30/2000 LOL. Can I come to the tea? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Emily Greenleafson" Posted by Edie Pratt on 11:22:15 6/30/2000 I loved it! That's my theory right there, Greenie, only put to music:-) You're so good at it, don't EVER stop. And Gemini, it's nothing that hasn't been said before, just put differently. I don't see you jumping down Nikki's throat for her prose, so it must have something to do with JR, that you so strongly object to? (Nik thinks PR did it) Besides, Greenleaf didn't get as personal as some of us have. Why, I would have mentioned his turkey platter gut, at least once,lol! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "..edie pratt" Posted by Nikki on 12:03:20 6/30/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:03:20, 6/30/2000 ..please, there is a big big difference between what Greenleaf writes than what I do.. ..I am not a rhymer...can't even spell it correctly....I know Nut-ting of meter or miter or etc etc etc...I do me own thing... ..I have a muse that comes to me..I do not write without her. ..I have stopped the poesy here at justicewatch because it just doesn't seem 'right' to put it here anymore...the emotion of the killing has died down and now it is hard headed logic and realism..an abstract form of literal truth that rules the boards.....but the true reality is none of us know what happened that night..none of us...we just have our suspicions..and I have mine and I want to be wrong and believe no mother would cover up a child's death with a sick attempt at an intruder...but that's what I think........ ..I am a published poet(not under the name of Nikki) and the only reason why anything of mine appeared on this board (and others) in the passing of these years is because of the depth of feeling that swept me away coupled with the murder of a best friend near the time of JonBenet's death... ..I have never started a thread with my own poesy or works.. ..I give everything and anything I have done to justicewatch ..as if they need or want it hahaha! ..maybe is it time for the blackbird to fly away....I've said so much..what else is there to say? ..the valentine is gone. ...................................................... ..when the night calls ..the dark birds gather... ..(I love you little Starbaby, ..where ever you are.) ..Nik [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Blackbirds and dark teas" Posted by Edie Pratt on 12:04:14 6/30/2000 I'm not sure what you meant by all that, Nikki, but I don't think you understood me, either. I'm only saying, in a round about way, I guess, that everyone here is entitled to express themselves in any way they like. There are things posters say, and certain ways they say it, that absolutely drive me mad, BUT, I scroll on by. I don't feel the need, or the right, to tell them I think they're wrong or that they suck. Period. So, if the blackbird flys away, so be it. I think I'll just lurk and sip my dark tea. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Greenie," Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:01:39 6/30/2000 I couldn't agree more about the description of artists. You are one. Keep doing what your heart insists you do. That's the only way to fulfill that artist's obligation. I'm a potter, so I'm earthy and close to the ground. I think your thoughts remind me of flying high in the sky with God. Keep reaching for more. It's there for you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "..but you edie pratt," Posted by Nikki on 14:25:39 6/30/2000 ..attached my name to a critque of the Gemini.. ..I do not write prose..I am a poet. ..so be it, ..sip at your bitter tears, your bitter water, ..what do I care.. ..I am far too busy watching the wrens whirl out from beneath the eaves.. ..and as for this--I think people were meant to be strangers...not to get close enough to damage the heart.. ..I shall be off flying high in a circle of blackbirds... ..I shall be off to seek a bluemoon cat... ..or maybe to free a butterfly. ..(and may there be justice for JonBenet) .. ..good luck Greenleaf! remember this, I was the first one to put the 'Greenie' tag on ya.. ..l8r ..Nik [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Forgive me" Posted by Edie Pratt on 15:36:19 6/30/2000 but Nikki, you seem to be looking for an argument from me. I did NOT say yours and Greenleaf's writing was the same. All I said is that you both have a right to write. If you're insulted because I didn't decipher between poetry and prose, I'm sorry. I was only using you as an example of creative expression. Should have specified. And, for your information, I happen to love your poetry, have never slammed it, nor asked that you stop. I only wanted to make the point to Ms.Gemini, that everyone here has their own way/form of expression. Peace? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Greenleaf" Posted by Starling on 14:49:49 6/30/2000 I enjoyed this poem. I've read it 3 times, since last night! JohnnyRam And Patsy Paugh The tag-team from Hell Who escaped the law.... Oh, the inspiration!.LOL Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Justice for JonBenet.." Posted by Greenleaf on 15:38:33 6/30/2000 Thank you Seashell, for the "thumbs up." momo, of course, we can have tea. You bring the lemons and I'll bring the sugar. LOL. Edie Pratt, thanks for "don't EVER stop." (Greenleafson?) LOL. Nikki, you are unique. Hug your muse for me. And yes, I agree, Nikki: " remember this, I was the first one to put the 'Greenie' tag on ya.." gaiabetsy, thanks for:"Keep doing what your heart insists you do." Starling:" I enjoyed this poem. I've read it 3 times, since last night!"(Music to my ears.) Thanks to you all. We are a special group of people, dedicated to using our talents to poke and prod the judicial system in Colorado into action; regarding the Ramsey case. We can agree to disagree. This is, after all, a forum. Who knows? Something written here just might be the catalysis for justice. May God bless all the abused and murdered children everywhere, and may all those who have harmed our little children be punished. Peace and love, Greenleaf . . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]