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SO MANY LIES SO LITTLE TIME, Ruthee, 09:24:52, 7/11/2000 I forgot to add, Ruthee, 09:28:08, 7/11/2000, (#1) Hope that, Sylvia, 09:44:59, 7/11/2000, (#3) I'e been watching, Watching you, 09:31:34, 7/11/2000, (#2) I'm with WY..., Twitch, 10:37:52, 7/11/2000, (#4) Ruthee, 1000Sparks, 10:54:20, 7/11/2000, (#5) Hi again, Ruthee, 11:56:16, 7/11/2000, (#6) Ruthee,, gaiabetsy, 12:03:18, 7/11/2000, (#7) Ruthee, sebastian, 12:17:13, 7/11/2000, (#9) Ruthee, Sylvia, 12:10:34, 7/11/2000, (#8) Ruthee,, Colorado-an, 13:46:53, 7/11/2000, (#10) Ruthee, Ginja, 15:51:23, 7/11/2000, (#11) Ginja, Anderson, 15:55:25, 7/11/2000, (#12) Ruthie, Luvsa Mystery, 16:04:31, 7/11/2000, (#13) Thanks Anderson, Ruthee, 16:28:52, 7/11/2000, (#15) Anderson, Ginja, 16:20:44, 7/11/2000, (#14) Ruthee --, Anton, 17:04:06, 7/11/2000, (#18) Well, Ruthee, Ginja, 16:31:04, 7/11/2000, (#16) Ginja, Ruthee, 17:01:54, 7/11/2000, (#17) I agree , SDean1, 20:06:10, 7/11/2000, (#19) Reality.., rico, 22:27:41, 7/11/2000, (#20) What a piece of work!, AutumnBorn, 23:11:31, 7/11/2000, (#21) AutumnBorn, Kelly, 10:01:16, 7/12/2000, (#25) Next Pagan Holiday, szundi, 04:41:56, 7/12/2000, (#22) Two things, Ruthie, Watching you, 05:28:05, 7/12/2000, (#23) Hang tough Ruthee and..., Dr. Who, 09:01:55, 7/12/2000, (#24) Ruthee, chebrock, 08:55:26, 7/13/2000, (#26) Thank You Everyone, Ruthee, 09:59:49, 7/13/2000, (#28) Strength and Conviction, pisces, 09:59:06, 7/13/2000, (#27) Ruthee, Your, zoomama, 10:21:55, 7/13/2000, (#29) zoomama , Ruthee, 10:29:10, 7/13/2000, (#30) Ruthee, Dianne E., 10:45:31, 7/13/2000, (#31) Golf club AND a baseball bat., Anderson, 12:35:45, 7/13/2000, (#32) Ruthee, frankg, 15:02:04, 7/13/2000, (#33) Thanks, Anderson, zoomama, 18:27:56, 7/13/2000, (#34) Oh, and Ruthee,, zoomama, 18:30:11, 7/13/2000, (#35) ................................................................... "SO MANY LIES SO LITTLE TIME" Posted by Ruthee on 09:24:52 7/11/2000 It's very busy at the Ruthee house right now so I don't know when I can get to it, but I will get to it. I see that the Ramsey Family has instructed Susan Bennett to put up some web pages to suggest that the Truman Capote book In Cold Blood, promoted a copy-cat crime. I've already taken care of that idea with my web page on The Lindbergh kidnapping note and communications. I also see that there is a web page with a "theory" on what caused the fracture. I usually don't go this far but the page is ridiculous. The suggestion that a flashlight would make the type of fracture indicated in the drawing is ignorant. I see no supporting documentation to back up the claim. I plan to do a drawing with information from Dr. Spitz just as soon as I have time, but I can't do it within this week. I also have a pretty good suggestion as to where the remainder of the cord is. I no longer believe it went out with the painting. I still think part of the tape went out with the painting. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "I forgot to add" Posted by Ruthee on 09:28:08 7/11/2000 I think the Ramseys should give Susan just a bit more information so her ideas can at least appear plausible. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Hope that" Posted by Sylvia on 09:44:59 7/11/2000 In the future they will have a whole lot of time on their hand, in jail that is to say!!!!! Sylvia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "I'e been watching" Posted by Watching you on 09:32:29 7/11/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:32:29, 7/11/2000 Susan and her fractured selves, Ruthie. They have been very very busy, no? I suppose I have to be the one to tell you to get your priorities straight and forget the Ruthie household to concentrate of usususususususus. No, just kidding. Really. I am, however, very anxious to learn about the cord. Oh, the stuff that went out of that house with Pammie. The wealth of evidence, brazenly carried out and placed in a police car and delivered, no less, to the Rams. I could beat my breast, but alas, it wouldn't help. And to think the cop even had to stop and buy the fat witch a happy freaking meal and a diet something. Arrogance runs in that family. But, enough, I await your next missive. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "I'm with WY..." Posted by Twitch on 10:37:52 7/11/2000 Can't your real life wait, Ruthee? Seriously, I'm anxiously awaiting some real meat to chew on. This reunion stuff is getting boring. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Ruthee" Posted by 1000Sparks on 10:54:20 7/11/2000 Could you tell us the url for Sueee's theory will be? Should we look under Copote? I too am waiting anxiously and agree that you should let you family wait. Throw them a bag os chips or something. Your friend, 1000Sparks [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Hi again" Posted by Ruthee on 11:56:16 7/11/2000 Mr. Ruthee goes in for conference with the surgeon tomorrow. We had a scare. Numb fingers and blurred vision. He's on meds and and home now, but I'm checking on him every minute it seems. He is at the store, but I'm calling all the time. He had the MRI and also CAT scan and I don't know yet, the results of the amount of blockage. I'm hoping they can disolve the blockage in his neck with meds, but I'm not counting on it. On top of that My dad had another bleeding episode, but Thank God that has stopped. When it rains it pours. Sometimes I wish I could just crawl under the bed and hide, but no dice. That's not all, but enough. When it rains, it pours. I'm trying to get the house ready in case I have to care for Mr. Ruthee at home. He has good people at the store, so at least I don't have to worry about that. Anyway, back to your question. Susan has the information listed on her page under "new website", I think. Anyway the links are on there. The link showing the damage that could be caused from the flashlight couldn't be farther from the actual case. We're not talking about a piece of glass here. Got to get back to housework (housewife here)be back when I need another rest. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Ruthee," Posted by gaiabetsy on 12:03:18 7/11/2000 just a brief question about Mr. Ruthee. Is the blockage a carotid artery in the neck? That's all. Many wishes for much help for you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Ruthee" Posted by sebastian on 12:17:13 7/11/2000 I am glad to see you here. I am sad to hear about Mr. Ruthee and your Dad being ill. I sure hope the best for all of you. Can't wait to see what you come up with. Your theories are always good and well thought out. God bless you and your family. :-) scar [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Ruthee" Posted by Sylvia on 12:10:34 7/11/2000 Wishing you all the strenght in the world, can understand what your going through, been there myself. All the best Sylvia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Ruthee," Posted by Colorado-an on 13:46:53 7/11/2000 No wonder we haven't seen you around much lately. My best to your hubby. Hope you receive some wonderful news for a speedy recovery. And my prayers to your Dad also. I will be thinking of you all. We will be here waiting for you to have some free time to fill us all in. I know it will be well worth the wait! Take some time for yourself, too! You need it and you deserve it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Ruthee" Posted by Ginja on 15:51:47 7/11/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:51:47, 7/11/2000 Hope everything turns out okay for hubby and dad. Any chance of sharing the url's for these websites? I'd like to go through them. Thanks. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Ginja" Posted by Anderson on 15:55:25 7/11/2000 http://www8.50megs.com/brucehicks/Ramsey/fractures.htm http://www8.50megs.com/brucehicks/Ramsey/headwound.htm http://www8.50megs.com/brucehicks/Ramsey/lookinglass.htm http://www8.50megs.com/brucehicks/Ramsey/motive.htm [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Ruthie" Posted by Luvsa Mystery on 16:04:31 7/11/2000 May the grace of the Lord be with you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Thanks Anderson" Posted by Ruthee on 16:28:52 7/11/2000 Gaiabetsy: Yes it's the carotid artery. I have to admit that I didn't read the In Cold Blood stuff, but I read the book years ago, and I've had a copy of the movie forever. Trust me, there is nothing in this murder of the entire Clutter family that resembles the murder of JonBenet Ramsey. The Clutter murders were motivated by money. The killers heard about what they thought would be a great deal of money in the house while they were in prison. The money story turned out not to be true by the way. I know that case as well as I know Susan Bennett, and that means I'm an "expert" on Kooks. I've been meaning to present some thoughts on the skull fracture, but it takes mucho work (I have to look the stuff up) and I've been putting it off. I started it once before last Christmas on Paint Shop 5 and then got 6 for Christmas and deleted it, I wish I hadn't now. You live and learn. Don't ask me why I did that. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Anderson" Posted by Ginja on 16:20:44 7/11/2000 Thank you so much! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Ruthee --" Posted by Anton on 17:04:06 7/11/2000 Bless you, your husband and your father. Hope all goes well for all of you. I read through Sue Bennett's Total Crap (S.B.T.C.) files. My toilet makes more sense. Also much more useful. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Well, Ruthee" Posted by Ginja on 16:31:04 7/11/2000 You're absolutely right about that flashlight theory. Duh! Even the 'facts' of the comminuted fracture are all off. It wasn't a lot of pieces, or even a few pieces...it was one. The bone along the ridge of the fracture was pulverized. No matter how I look at it, there had to be some kind of protrusion to cause that comminuted fracture within the linear. A straight pipe couldn't do it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Ginja" Posted by Ruthee on 17:01:54 7/11/2000 I'm a lay person in every area that I post an opinion regarding this case. I don't know where or how they come up with these "theories" that are so far off the wall. I guess even off the wall is fine if you can find something, anything to back up your thoughts. Is there no obligation to give even one ounce of rational thought behind what you (the collective) present? It may be wrong, but can't these presentations contain something to guide someone to find out a little more on their own to make up their own mind? I can't help but think that Susan Stine, or the Ramsey family feeds this crud to Susan and she picks it up and runs, she couldn't believe it. Maybe I give her too much credit, but I doubt it. When I go back over my web pages I find thoughts and presentations that I now find to be wrong. I feel that with the information I had at the time they had some merit. I have left the information there on purpose. The pages are dated and that's what I thought at that time. The more you study the more you progress. Susan Bennett keeps progressing back from whence she came. I thought the Velvet Glove was dead and buried, I see that it is alive and well upon the hand of one who continues her search for identity. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "I agree " Posted by SDean1 on 20:06:10 7/11/2000 those theories are nothing but a bunch of hog wash...... I had to keep pausing as I was reading thinking what kinda bull crap theory are they trying to convey? I thought at one time candyrose was anti-Ramsey, does anyone know if she has crossed over to the browner side of the street? As for JAms, well where are her credtials? She surely hasnt figured out that pigs dont fly out of her butt.( or do they?) JFJBR............... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Reality.." Posted by rico on 22:29:26 7/11/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:29:26, 7/11/2000 what a concept! Thanks for the 'heads-up' Ruthee; I hate it when I'm in lurk mode and I step in dung hir is shoveling from the Ramsey honey wagon. And the new sites are big dung heaps! What happened to the "kidnapping gone awry" kaka? Is this their FINAL answer? There should be a law against writing consistently bad fiction regardless of whether it's written with a sharpie and legal pad or posted on the web. So now the perp was "intimately familiar" with the R's. Well, if familiarity breeds contempt I can't think of anyone more contemptible than the goomba's peddling this trash. "Lets piss down their backs and tell them it's raining." Unreal. Thank God for JW. I needed the reality check! JfJBR P.S. Best wishes and prayers for your husband and father, Ruthee. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "What a piece of work!" Posted by AutumnBorn on 23:11:31 7/11/2000 Now that I've got my pagan rites all sorted out, I think I'll have to sacrifice something. I can't figure out when the next pagan holiday is. Hey, anybody know Sue B's birthday? Ruthee, I'll be praying for your husband and father. My father had a triple bypass on one of his legs once. Funny, we think of arteries being damaged in the heart, but we've got them everywhere. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "AutumnBorn" Posted by Kelly on 10:01:16 7/12/2000 I read somewhere when Sue B's birthday was. I can't remember if it was mine or my birth mother's birthday. My birth mother had been taking money from two couples while she was pregnant with me with the promise that she would give me to them when I was born. Of course, neither couple knew about the other. The couple that had a lawyer involved got me. My birth mother's birthday is Dec 11th. Mine is Feb 25th. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Next Pagan Holiday" Posted by szundi on 04:41:56 7/12/2000 Aug 1st--Lugnassah Autumn Born--you can celebrate any new or full moon and this month we have 2 new moons--very rare. And 3 eclipses! It's like a bonus round. Ruthee--hope you get through all of this stress intact. Carotid surgery can be tricky but in the right hands, the results are very rewarding. I personally don't like it and after all these years get nervous when I am assisting at any carotid surgery. Keep fighting the dark side (Jams et al). szundi [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Two things, Ruthie" Posted by Watching you on 05:28:05 7/12/2000 First, your husband. My mom had a series of mini-strokes about six years ago. They were very subtle and affected her speech only briefly. My daddy was alive then, and he summoned help immediately of course. Her carotid arteries were substantially blocked and she needed surgery. The doctor did tell us it can be risky, but mom made it through just fine, suffered no long-term memory losses or speech impediments, and is alive and kicking today. Second, Capote's IN COLD BLOOD - I read it years ago. Bennett and the gang have been throwing that theory out for some time, but I never in a million years thought anyone would take it seriously. They are hopelessly lost over on moron mountain, as you know, and this is further proof of that. There is no relationship between the two cases, but desperate people, you know... Healing thoughts going out to your husband and your dad. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Hang tough Ruthee and..." Posted by Dr. Who on 09:01:55 7/12/2000 I'm sure in your hands and the docs all will come out fine. Treat yourself to something nice tonight...you deserve a break! Be kewel and all... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Ruthee" Posted by chebrock on 08:55:26 7/13/2000 Ruthee, I hope everything works out well for your husband and father. My mother had surgery on her cartoid artery and it was pretty much a breeze. After the surgery she felt great! I just finished Wecht's book and he believes it was either a flashlight or a golf club that caused the blow to the head. Toward the end of his book he goes through his reasoning as to how those objects fit into the physical features of the wound. Personally, I don't think anyone could swing a flashlight in such a way as to administer a blow as hard as the one to JonBenet's skull. It would take alot of strength. Thanks for all you do to keep this case alive and on the right track. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Thank You Everyone" Posted by Ruthee on 10:01:48 7/13/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 10:01:48, 7/13/2000 The most important thing to me is the positive attitude I see from Mr. Ruthee and his confidence in the Dr. He is in great spirits and that is a Godsend to me. All he talks about is being able to make his Montana hunting trip in Sept. He loved all the e-mail he got from his harem on the net. :-) That has been so much help. Back to the golf club and flashlight. I guess either could work, but as I think of it now I lean toward the golf club. The reason has already been mentioned. I think even a man would need more leverage Than available with the flashlight handle. I also go for the golf club because John asked for his golf clubs after he left the house. I can understand him thinking about them later, but not so soon after the death of his daughter. Same reasoning goes for Patsy asking for the canvas in the basement. They both were in the basement, no big deal. But when you think about it one could have been in the basement and one in the garage or both in the garage. I have a gut feeling that the golf clubs could have very well been in the garage and then moved to the basement after the murder. Don't ask me why. It just seems more likely to take the clubs out of the car after use and store them in the garage. Then I go back to the thought that it was winter and they may have been moved down there until the weather was warmer. I have the feeling that at the time that JBR was hit with a golf club by Burke they were stored in the garage. I think that the "old" club found in the yard was used for putting practice. It may have been proped up somewhere and placed behind the bushes on purpose. That's another reason why I think the wound may have been caused by a club. Gads there is so much more. I'll come back after I start the sprinklers. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Strength and Conviction" Posted by pisces on 09:59:06 7/13/2000 Ruthee: From your writings on this forum and on your webpage, I have the strong impression that you are a person with strength and conviction. God has blessed you with these abilities and will give you the strength to be there for your dad and husband. You are blessed with many friends at JW who appreciate the wisdom and time that you contribute to finding justice for Jon Benet. Thanks for all your input--I learn so much from your contributions. pisces [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Ruthee, Your" Posted by zoomama on 10:21:55 7/13/2000 post #28 has me wondering about something. You mention that a club was outside possibly hidden or resting against a bush. I recall they found a baseball bat but this is the first time I've heard about a golf club outside. And yes, it is strange that during the winter JR wants his clubs and PR wants her canvas. Makes you wonder about what was so important about these items and whatt were they actually hiding in plain sight. Prayers and good thoughts for Mr. Ruthee and your Dad. You have your hands full. Many good thoughts for you too. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "zoomama " Posted by Ruthee on 10:29:10 7/13/2000 Geez, maybe it was a bat. I know my mind is the first thing to go. :-) My dad is doing better now. The bleeding has stopped and he seems to be coming along ok now. I can only deal with one at a time and I think God knows that. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Ruthee" Posted by Dianne E. on 10:45:31 7/13/2000 You tell Mr. Ruthee that he only has a harem in California and if those other hussies keep emailing him, IBnora and I may have to hop in our cars to set him straight on which group of "groupies" he should be talking to. Let him know that as soon as he is well enuff to sit up for hours and let us grill him on investigative questions, he can expect to see us pull up in the driveway. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Golf club AND a baseball bat." Posted by Anderson on 12:35:45 7/13/2000 Both items were found outside the house. I recalled that question was asked Steve Thomas on the APB forum, so for that past half hour I've been wading through the posts there to find his response. Here 'tis. " SteveThomas (May. 09, 2000 09:13 PM) chebrock (read) Dear Chebrock, First, although I am only able to browse occasionally on the net because of time constraints, I enjoy the Justice Watch and CyberSlueths forums, and wanted to say I think you have been most insightful and have a good read on a lot of this case. I enjoy your posts (the ones I get to see), anyway. Regarding the ballbat question -- the second edition and paperback versions of the book will clarify a mistake that was made (probably due to my hurried handwriting when it was getting ready for printing). On the north side of the home, outside, during the crime scene search, was discovered a ballbat. On the west side of the home, was discovered a golf club with a hair on it (both discovered by Detective Idler). The hair was determined NOT to belong to JB, and the weathered golf club appeared to have been outside for some time. The ballbat does not to appear to have been the murder weapon, and may also have been outside for some time (although Mr Smit may disagree with me on this.)The detectives (without going into a lot of detail)did not feel either of these was the mruder weapon. I hope this answers your question. Best, Steve" [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Ruthee" Posted by frankg on 15:02:04 7/13/2000 First, let me say I wish you, Mr Ruthee and your dad all the best. It can be a difficult time but at least it seems you know what your dealing with, and that helps. The unknown and unexpected are far worse. As for the instrument that caused the wound... as a golfer for over 37 years I gotta tell you I am just about positive a golf club could not have caused the wound. First, there is nothing on a club with enough mass to cause an 8" wound. The wound would be much shorter. The shaft of the club could not be involved in the injury. Second, I can't imagine striking someone with a club (any club, wood, iron, putter, etc) with enough force to fracture a skull and still not break the skin. I believe a flashlight *could* cause the injury although leverage would be difficult. A bat would be the obvious weapon IMO, although it's damn difficult to envision a scenario where a parent was swinging a bat at JonBenet... at least with a flashlight one can envision an accidental scenario with cover-up. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Thanks, Anderson" Posted by zoomama on 18:27:56 7/13/2000 for your research. What I like about JW is that all one has to do is ask a question and one or more of the many posters will have the answer already researched or know where to find it done by others. I had not heard or read that quote about both the bat and club being found on different sides of the house previously. I do remember that there had been an injury with a club done to JBR by Burke sometime earlier, like months or weeks before her death. But I don't know which part of her body BR swung at. Could it be that that early injury had some play at the time of her death? But as I say I don't recall when that accident happened. Anyone? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Oh, and Ruthee," Posted by zoomama on 18:30:11 7/13/2000 Your mind is still there see. It was me who was the one not to know what was going on. So you are OK... ; ) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE