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Tidbit regarding Linda Arndt, reporter, 12:55:31, 7/13/2001 Thanks Reporter...., 1000Sparks, 13:01:27, 7/13/2001, (#1) at peace?, Edie Pratt, 13:12:18, 7/13/2001, (#2) somewhat taken aback, reporter, 13:19:42, 7/13/2001, (#3) Reporter, Nedthan Johns, 13:31:06, 7/13/2001, (#4) Nedthan, reporter, 13:44:30, 7/13/2001, (#5) Reporter, Nedthan Johns, 14:01:34, 7/13/2001, (#6) Thanks, Reporter..., pip, 14:17:39, 7/13/2001, (#7) Thanks reporter..., tinky, 14:50:39, 7/13/2001, (#8) don't be so surprised, Reporter, Edie Pratt, 15:15:38, 7/13/2001, (#9) Linda, qsuss, 15:32:39, 7/13/2001, (#10) ok, Edie Pratt, 15:44:37, 7/13/2001, (#11) Edie Pratt, Hominy, 17:54:32, 7/13/2001, (#12) Yup, EP & Hominy, A.K., 18:26:11, 7/13/2001, (#13) and with what money???, purrplepassion, 19:44:48, 7/13/2001, (#14) Media advisors, A.K., 01:18:52, 7/14/2001, (#15) Thanks, rachel, 05:50:45, 7/14/2001, (#16) advisors, reporter, 07:53:43, 7/14/2001, (#17) i agree, purrplepassion, 11:03:54, 7/14/2001, (#18) I'm not talking about the first day..., A.K., 13:17:11, 7/14/2001, (#19) Edie Pratt, Grace, 13:54:15, 7/14/2001, (#20) Chris, v_p, 13:55:44, 7/14/2001, (#21) Thanks, Grace!, Edie Pratt, 14:04:50, 7/14/2001, (#22) V_P, momo, 14:16:35, 7/14/2001, (#23) momo, v_p, 14:29:33, 7/14/2001, (#24) ................................................................... "Tidbit regarding Linda Arndt" Posted by reporter on 12:55:31 7/13/2001 I thought the posters on the forum would be pleased to hear a sort of update from Linda Arndt. She feels peaceful that some of her story came out in the recent trial. Her personal life is much more peaceful and she is thankful for that. I also wanted to share something written by her attorney, Bruce Jones right after the unexpected dismissal of her case. It was meant to be a press release, but I didn't find it in any of the papers. I think it expresses the disappointment of Linda and her legal team. "It's a sad day for the First Amendment. It's a sad day for public employees. It's an especially sad day for police officers. It's an even more sad day for the public, for the jury system, for the press, and for the truth. The City of Boulder made a deliberate decision and choice to trash LInda in Court, just as it allowed her to be trashed earlier. That could only benefit a killer, at the expense of Linda Arndt and JonBenet. There is a saying: A lie can run around the World while the truth is lacing up its shoes. We got our shoes laced in this trial-it's a shame that the Court decided to prematurely end the race." As I said in the later posts during and right after the trial, I personally felt that what Linda said at the trial had the unmistaken ring of truth. If she is right and her actions did NOT jeopardize the case, then it gives me hope that the events unfolding now with some of the current lawsuits might still result in a successful prosecution of the killers of JonBenet. I remain hopeful and have always believed that, however slow, that justice will prevail. I think no outcome could please Linda more than that. She truly lost so much that was important to her as a result of this case. But I think that maybe now she is seeing that there is life after the trauma she has undergone. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Thanks Reporter...." Posted by 1000Sparks on 13:01:27 7/13/2001 I'm glad Linda is at peace. This revealed a lot about Linda and her attorney... There will be justice. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "at peace?" Posted by Edie Pratt on 13:12:18 7/13/2001 I don't know how anyone who claims to KNOW what happened to a dead girl, can possibly be "at peace"! She obviously has always been at peace, because she has yet to come out and fight...the court was a joke, I mean, did you see all the crap it took to get there?! Everybody and their uncle has come out and fought, argued, championed, lied, told the truth, etc., why did LA have to go by the "rules"? If ST could fight so passionately for his theory to be the ONE, then where was LA to dispute that? She, afterall, was THERE THAT DAY. Oh well, ho hum, go in peace there Linda, enjoy. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "somewhat taken aback" Posted by reporter on 13:19:42 7/13/2001 I feel sort of surprised at your post Edie. No one said she is at peace about the justice for JonBenet. I am not in communication with her about that. I am imagining, however that she wants justice as much as any one here on this forum, or anywhere. She has tried to level with everyone without further putting the case in danger. Why should she break all the 'rules' as Smit has and insure that the case could never be prosecuted? I personally think she has more integrity than many, many people in this case and if she decided to seek for justice for herself WITHIN the justice system, who are we to condemn her? Why not support someone who acted with honor, not dishonor as Smit has done? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Reporter" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 13:31:06 7/13/2001 I have a couple of questions for Linda, in fact I think we all have. How about relaying some to here and she if she responds? 1.) Does she still believe that John Ramsey is the murderer and why? 2.) What does she think of the tear marks on JonBenet's neck, and did she note the jewerly Patsy wore the morning she arrived? 3.) What are her comments about the recent burglary at the Ramsey's home in Atlanta? 4.) Did she note any other odd marks or sratches that were NOT noted on the autopsy report when she viewed the body? 5.) Did she note or notice any clothes in the open dryer, where maid Pugh beleives she left the blanket and pajamas. 6.) Does she still believe that Patsy Ramsey is innocent, and does she still contact the Ramsey's? 7.) Where there any photos from the White's Christams party taken into investigation, and where are these people today, and why haven't they talked, IHO? Thank you Reporter. I would love to ask Linda to come participate at JW for a day. Perhaps thou she would be willing to answer these questions through you. I am most curious as to what her view is about this case as of today. Thank you -Ned [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Nedthan" Posted by reporter on 13:44:30 7/13/2001 Obviously I have been in communication with Linda, but I have to say that we have not discussed the case. I would love to do so, but my opinion is that there is no earthly reason for her to discuss this case with me, have me discuss our conversations on an internet forum and the result would be complete and absolute insurance that this case could never be tried. I wouldn't even deign to ask her about this. I think her actions to protect this case have been complete and have not always been in her self interest. If she ever must testify to that day, she can do so without previously shared that testimony with anyone else. Her reports, I am assuming, already contain what she knew or observed. ALL notes and reports of hers are lodged with the BPD. I shared what I did because I thought there were those on this forum who would care about how she is and would have no other way to know about it. Your questions are good, though, and maybe some day everyone will know the answers. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Reporter" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 14:01:34 7/13/2001 Thank you for answering me. I feel for Linda, but I am amazed she is at the total other end of the spectum as is Steve Thomas. To me this is WHY people view this case and the BPD as "Kooky, wacky, or just down right inexpierenced." Linda, as you know had stated ODD things during her TV interviews. As she pins John Ramsey as the killer, Thomas gives him a great big PASS. This has always been a problem for me as I am sure for many others. It spells trouble for the prosecution, and CLEARLY defines just how inexpierenced the BPD really was and still is IMO. I don't know WHO killed JonBenet, and I don't think Linda Ardnt or Steve Thomas knows either. I think what was done to her was wrong, and because she was a woman took the fall, so I feel for her in that respect. It will be nice if Linda DOES get to testify one day. I have no doubt she wants to see justice done just like everyone else. Good luck to you Linda, oh yea, and if you plan on writing a book, could you answer the questions above in it for me? Thanks :0) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Thanks, Reporter..." Posted by pip on 14:19:14 7/13/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:19:14, 7/13/2001 After all Linda has been through, she DESERVES to be at peace. I have no doubt that her personal experience at the crime scene has impacted her deeply. It was adding insult to injury that her career suffered as a result of BPD's lack of support for her. She's done all she can do to restore her own reputation; she is proceeding with integrity regarding knowledge that will be useful in court at a later time. Thanks for sharing this "tidbit"; if my vote in the "court of public opinion" counts at all, I cast it in support of Arndt. pip [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Thanks reporter..." Posted by tinky on 14:50:39 7/13/2001 I am glad Linda is at peace. She has been through a lot. I am not sure what else she can do at this point. Hopefully someday JonBenet's killer will be brought to justice. However, with the way the Boulder DA's office operates, I seriously doubt that will happen. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "don't be so surprised, Reporter" Posted by Edie Pratt on 15:15:38 7/13/2001 If you have ever read my posts, you would see I have always felt LA could/should have done more. I understand she was playing by the rules, at first, but when ST came out with a book, all bets should have been off. She should not have taken that lieing down, because she was the ONLY one in a position to know what happened that morning... and I, for one, BELIEVED HER. She was an award winning cop, not an ingenue, rookie, or ditz playing Christie Love, and her credentials should have been enough to back her claims. She had the power, but she chose not to use it. I am not finding fault with her newfound peace, I am only wondering why she's not like most detectives who can't eat, sleep, breath, without thinking of their victim and the victim's right to justice. We are ALL here with that same fire in our bellies, and we would ALL, if we had info and firsthand insight, do everything in our power to prove the person we hold responsible, did it...what's wrong with her? ST didn't come on the scene for another 3 days, she was there first! How does she feel about his publishing deal? His homicide experience? Why did she stay mum until her day in court? And, don't forget, her day in court was just that, for HER. To regain her credibility, NOT to persue justice for JonBenet Ramsey. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Linda" Posted by qsuss on 15:32:39 7/13/2001 I hope that Linda puts this behind her and has a happy and fulfilling life. Too often women take the heat for any mistakes that are made and in my opinion this is one more case of that. The Ramseys ran this investigation from day one, it's not hard to see how intimidating they can be. Obviously Linda was deceived, like everyone else at the beginning that this was a kidnapping. Why should she be faulted for trying to be compassionate? JonBenet was only the first of many victims. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "ok" Posted by Edie Pratt on 15:44:37 7/13/2001 she went on GMA and gave her account of December 26, 1996. She said she "knew what happened to her. I KNEW what happened to JonBenet." Period. Having said that, and said it in such a way that it left no doubt in MY mind that JR was the culprit, she simply shrugged her shoulders and sighed that the killer would never be brought to justice. Please, tell me, WHY did she go on tv with her opinion, and do nothing more? If she was afraid before that, she shouldn't have been afterward. The whole world watched! Not nothing was going to happen after that, eyes were on her...she had our undivided attention, respect, and an opportunity to set the record straight...she blew it. Playing games of "amnesia" aren't exactly the tactics of professionals, nor is falling apart at the seams because of a male dominated police force. Sorry I'm not following the rules of group conformity here, but that's the way it goes...JMHO [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Edie Pratt" Posted by Hominy on 17:54:32 7/13/2001 I absolutely agree with you. While I certainly don't wish anything worse for Arndt than what has already happened to her, I don't think she has behaved with a great deal of efficiency or dignity. As I understood the testimony at the trial, the police department couldn't refute what was reported in the media about her actions as a detective on the scene because most of what was reported about her was true. She did ask Ramsey to search the house and she did move the body. She will forever be known as the detective who blew the case, rightly or wrongly. I believe rightly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Yup, EP & Hominy" Posted by A.K. on 18:26:11 7/13/2001 It hurts all women working in a man's world when one makes a mistake and persists in compounding it at every opportunity. She should have gotten a media advisor as soon as things started going downhill. Without a doubt much of what happened that morning was not her fault, though some was. But every misstep since then, including her joke of a trial, was completely due to her lack of intellect and out of control ego. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "and with what money???" Posted by purrplepassion on 19:46:01 7/13/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:46:01, 7/13/2001 and with what money would linda have done that? media advisors.....costs lots and lots of money.... and i dont think on a detective's job.......she was very rich... shoulda...shoulda...coulda i dont think she coulda! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Media advisors" Posted by A.K. on 01:18:52 7/14/2001 ...on a high profile case for a client in need as she was would have worked pro bono. Good PR for them, helpful for her. She should have trusted the press instead of eschewed them. Meant to add: Thanks, Reporter, for covering the trial and giving us your views. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Thanks" Posted by rachel on 05:50:45 7/14/2001 Thank you, reporter, for the Arndt update. The cop I felt who did the worst of worst faux pas, is that dang Larry Mason. Why, oh why, did he give John "just one more day"???? Linda Arndt had many factors going on that day, what was Larry's excuse? If he'd have said to John..."yeah, I understand, believe me, and just as soon as we're finished, you can go". Instead, the foooooool acquiesced. How different, I think, this case would be today if John and Patsy had been questioned, separately, that first day. The opportunity got lost, and I say it was thanks to Larry Mason. God speed, Linda Arndt! That case is from Satan himself... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "advisors" Posted by reporter on 07:53:43 7/14/2001 If we can get our minds to go back to the first few days after the murder. The police are working overtime, the media is on the phone or in the street to get more bits to the story, each officer is collecting bits and pieces and everyone is exhausted. This terrible thing has happened...over Christmas....while people are on vacation. Remember that the huge population of the University of Colorado at Boulder also leaves for the holidays, so it is often a quiet time in boulder. NOw this. WHO could have looked ahead and said to themselves, "Well, I was an important person at the house that day. I think I should just get me a media advisor. As far as the rank and file were concerned, dealing with the media was the job of the police spokespersons. I would imagine that every day brought lists of new tasks to accomplish and people to see. If Linda HAD used a media advisor, forums cropping up would have crucified her for it. Hindsight is 20-20 and I bet there are scores of people who wish with all their hearts that they had done a lot of things differently in the early days and weeks of the investigation. The back stabbing and fighting between the BPD and DA's office is somewhat forgotten now, but it was very real early on. It is that conflict that caused so much trouble for the case, in my opinion. And many people are to blame. At least that is my view. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "i agree" Posted by purrplepassion on 11:03:54 7/14/2001 i agree......good point reporter. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "I'm not talking about the first day..." Posted by A.K. on 13:17:11 7/14/2001 ...or even the first few months. I'm talking about the time when she left the dept. She may have had one helping her with GMA, and certainly she should have listened to someone in pursuing her lawsuit. Wasn't it a shock to you to find out how weak her case was? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Edie Pratt" Posted by Grace on 14:13:12 7/14/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:13:12, 7/14/2001 I know what you've always said, and I agree. Sorry you're not feeling well. Your post on the daily sounds like you're in pretty miserable shape. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Chris" Posted by v_p on 13:55:44 7/14/2001 would you please let chatter know why her post was deleted on lillie's thread... publically, if you don't mind, so he/she will stop calling a few of us liars. thanx [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Thanks, Grace!" Posted by Edie Pratt on 14:04:50 7/14/2001 I'm AoK, not to worry:-) Nothing rest and relaxation won't cure...now, which is better, MAD tv or SNL? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "V_P" Posted by momo on 14:16:35 7/14/2001 Why don't you e-mail Chris instead of infiltrating another thread with that nonsense. Edie, I like SNL better but lately some of the material sucks. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "momo" Posted by v_p on 14:29:33 7/14/2001 I mistook Grace for Chris... sorry :o) Are you a moderator now? 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