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FW Sources, Please #2.., Dianne E., 07:56:05, 7/25/2000 I already told you once, Watching you, 08:00:29, 7/25/2000, (#1) Again, Sylvia, 08:20:35, 7/25/2000, (#2) Missing Something??, shadow, 08:35:10, 7/25/2000, (#3) Shadow, Watching you, 09:23:45, 7/25/2000, (#4) Still a 9, Teague, 09:55:42, 7/25/2000, (#5) Hmmmm...., Starling, 10:01:46, 7/25/2000, (#6) I am a , Florida, 10:07:25, 7/25/2000, (#7) Why, Florida, Real Stormy, 10:24:18, 7/25/2000, (#9) I am a, ericasf, 10:13:20, 7/25/2000, (#8) By the way,, Real Stormy, 10:25:38, 7/25/2000, (#10) The Reason..., shadow, 10:48:13, 7/25/2000, (#11) in that case,, ericasf, 11:57:24, 7/25/2000, (#15) My Take, Colorado Babe, 11:01:37, 7/25/2000, (#12) Have known, Greenleaf, 11:25:36, 7/25/2000, (#13) Fleet White....., rose, 11:53:21, 7/25/2000, (#14) I've Had It!, Ruthee, 15:00:56, 7/25/2000, (#16) I am, Ribaldone, 15:25:12, 7/25/2000, (#17) ................................................................... "FW Sources, Please #2.." Posted by Dianne E. on 07:56:05 7/25/2000 "Dead Horse Walking???" Posted by shadow on 09:23:18 7/24/2000 Continuing this FW BS is taking-on all the aspects of a great big circle-jerk! As best I can tell we have: 1) those who really believe FW is the evil force behind the death of JB and the Rams are completely innocent 2) those who really believe FW is the evil force behind the death of JBR and somehow got the, otherwise innocent, Rams to be involved in a "cover-up" 3) those who really believe FW is evil and was involved, with the Rams, in the death of JBR 4) those who really believe FW is evil, was involved in child sexual abuse, but was not involved in the death of JBR 5) those who really believe FW's actions indicate he is evil, but are not sure exactly how yet (time will tell) 6) those who are just using the FW issue to confuse and divert attention from the real JBR case issues (whatever they are) 7) those who think FW is a hero 8) those who don't think FW is a hero, but do not believe he was involved in the death of JBR 9) those who don't think FW is a hero, don't know what he was involved in, but think he should not be lynched until all the "facts" are in I'm sure there are many variations on the above, but these are close enough for Gov work! Those of us who hold one (or more) of the above opinions are not going to change our minds - so why are we continuing to beat this dead horse? [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "I already told you once" Posted by Watching you on 08:00:29 7/25/2000 I'm a *9* with a *10* bod. I knew this post needed its own thread. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Again" Posted by Sylvia on 08:20:35 7/25/2000 I am an 8 or 9 both oke by me. Sylvia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Missing Something??" Posted by shadow on 08:35:10 7/25/2000 I see lots of 8s & 9s - where are the 1s thru 7s? shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Shadow" Posted by Watching you on 09:23:45 7/25/2000 is this what they meant by silence of the lambs? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Still a 9" Posted by Teague on 09:55:42 7/25/2000 LOL, Watching You. Guess we're Waiting for Clarice Starling, eh? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Hmmmm...." Posted by Starling on 10:01:46 7/25/2000 Well, I'm not Clarice, but I could be a five had the word been weird instead of evil :-) So, I'll make a number 10 - 10) those who really believe FW's actions indicate he is weird, but are not sure exactly how yet (time will tell) Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "I am a " Posted by Florida on 10:07:25 7/25/2000 nine. I always want to see the evidence before I hang someone.;-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Why, Florida" Posted by Real Stormy on 10:24:18 7/25/2000 Aren't you being a bit picky? My word, you want to see the evidence before you hang someone? IMO there's nothing like lynching an innocent person, as it seems some are doing here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "I am a" Posted by ericasf on 10:13:20 7/25/2000 9 as well..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "By the way," Posted by Real Stormy on 10:25:38 7/25/2000 I think I'm a 10--I've always been a 10, I will always be a 10. But insofar as this thread goes, I'm a 9. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "The Reason..." Posted by shadow on 10:48:13 7/25/2000 I didn't add a ten is because I have come to know you ladies too well - everyone would have claimed to be a 10! I agree with Starling, however - there should be a number (maybe 5A) for those who consider FW (and/or his actions)wierd and are waiting to see why. shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "in that case," Posted by ericasf on 11:57:24 7/25/2000 I would be 5ABC because I think everyone in the case is weird and now I'm just waiting for the facts to come out. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "My Take" Posted by Colorado Babe on 11:01:37 7/25/2000 11. Those people who don't know if Fleet White had anything to do with the Death Of JBR, but feel somehow he was involved, and don't either like or hate him. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Have known" Posted by Greenleaf on 11:25:36 7/25/2000 I know and have known people like Fleet White; up front and personal about everything. Some have been good, honest, and decent ( albeit running the gamut from irritating to downright obnoxious) and some have been creepy, and/or dishonest. FW, IMHO, belongs to the former of the two. Because of his previous verboseness, we expect him to speak out now, against those who are accusing him of all sorts of nefarious things. He has elected to remain silent. That is his prerogative. I elect to express my views on this forum. That is my prerogative! If FW's rights are taken away from him, that leaves me (AND YOU) in a precarious position concerning ALL OF OUR RIGHTS. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Fleet White....." Posted by rose on 11:53:21 7/25/2000 White has been a victim of a hit and run bus!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "I've Had It!" Posted by Ruthee on 15:00:56 7/25/2000 I usually don't do this, but since it's been a while since these points appeared, I'm going to give myself a pass. I hate long posts. If you hate them please scroll. 1. He refused to talk to the investigators if not given the previous interview transcripts beforehand. It occurs to me that Mr. White may have been trying to make a point here. In my opinion he was probably enraged when he heard that the Ramseys may have asked for the same privilege. I wonder if he was upset because the Ramseys received a copy of the Ransom note before submitting handwriting samples. Oh well that doesn't make any difference. After all they wrote it. 2. He wrote frequent letters protesting the delay in having the Ramseys arrested. Yes he did. He probably thought that he and others had provided enough truthful information to support an arrest of the Ramseys. Now if he's the leader or member of a sex ring, I'm sure he thought that writing letters and bringing attention to himself would secure his privacy and keep the press away from him. His sex ring secret would remain secret. 3. He has no visibility in the real world or the Internet world (except in ref. to JBR), yet is a millionaire. Let's see how many millionaires do we have now since the stock market has done so well for so long. Maybe we should look them all up and see if Mr. White stands alone in his non-visibility. 4. He threatened a reporter and intimidated others who were targets of his anger. Of course this puts him in a completely different catagory than John Ramsey who lunged at MM. This behaviour is rare as we see from the actions of Pasta Jay. 5. He made dubious phone calls two days before Christmas for urgent delivery of medical supplies, to his mother, who was under the care of a doctor, then -- How can I comfirm that the calls were dubious. Did he make the calls to his mother, her doctor, or the hospital? 6. Went to the airport on pretense of dropping off medical supplies to be flown in and picked up in Aspen by an unknown person. Let me pull a Susan Bennett on ya here. My father requires two different medical appliances that must be worn every day and changed at least weekly if not sooner due to emergency. I assure you that if he were admitted to a small hospital in Aspen, I would make sure he took his supply with him. There is a 90% chance they would have to order them. 7. Was accompanied by the CA guests, who came to the Ramsey party without their wife/girlfriend, for this airport 'run', which was so urgent he left the Ramseys party at the drop of a hat. Please see the information above. 8. He currently seems to have two names which share the same Social Security number-I could publish the info but why bother, it's true. I believe you. I have no argument with you on this one. The first thing I would think of is taxes, not sex rings. 9. All personal details of White's life are banished from print publications (most significantly PMPT, ITRI): where he was born, raised, educated, military service, etc. I believe I have read more than one unauthorized biography. If writers don't want to dig it up, it's not Mr. White's fault. 10. He is the son of the godfather of the mother of MW. Actually I believe he may be the son of the "father" of Jane Doe. But where do we go from there? 11. His daughter disappeared and was found hiding, after a frantic search, a call to the Ramseys, and a police response, in a cupboard in the White home. She is alleged to have been naked. I think this has been covered by Dianne E. Are you sure it was a cupboard and not a closet? Are you sure she was naked? 12. He touched the broken glass at the crime scene, moved the suitcase, touched the duct tape, and generally contaminated the evidence as much as JR himself. Yes he did. Are you saying that he tried to incriminate himself, or are you implying that he previously touched all of those items in the past and went down stairs and touched them again after John brought up the body? Why would he even mention that he opened the door eariler? If he was afraid of prints on the door, all he would have to say is that he touched the door at the time that John found the body. 13. Looked into the windowless room where JonBenet was found, but claims not to have seen her. If he had anything to do with JBR's death, he would not want to be the one to discover the body. And it did smell bad. See the information above. He may not have smelled anything if JonBenet wasn't in the room at the time he opened the door. 14. Had a violent argument in Atlanta with JR, some say it involved a gun, other reports say it involved using his hands around a persons neck, but in any event, police were called, reports disappeared, and it was denied completely by JR and FW later on. I've never heard that the argument was denied by both parties later on, but I'll give you that one. Do you suppose Mr. White may have become upset because the Ramseys phoned Boulder PD from Atlanta telling them than Fleet White was allowed to change JonBenet's underware? Looks like Mr. White was number one on the Ramsey "dead list" for quite a while. 15. Still 'friends' according to JR's deposition, yet they do not speak. How many times did John Ramsey lie in the deposition. In addition to actually lying, how many times did he lose his memory? I didn't count. John Ramsey wishes they were still friends, you can bet your bippy on that one. 16. Dressed as Santa Claus for JonBenet that fatal Christmas, at the White Christmas party, according to DOI and press release from TNP. Didn't know this until the book came out. So now he dressed only for JonBenet. Where were the other children? Did they have a separate Santa that evening? What about Santa Bill, was he there for JonBenet only? If playing Santa to your children is suspect. We have a big problem in "this society." 17. In Atlanta, Priscilla White was heard to say, "We know things you don't know", a cryptic statement if not incriminating. Why have they not shared what they know if it would help to further justice? If they did share it, why is the crime still unsolved? You don't tell me who they said this to, but I don't doubt they know things "you don't know." How do we know that they have not shared what they know with the proper people? Are they damned if they don't tell us? I don't recall you saying that they said they could solve the case. 18. FW was considered for arrest on charges of obstruction of justice because he stonewalled the investigators. Alex Hunter also had a feeling of danger about White, why is that? Yes, is it possible that Mr. White did not trust Mr. Hunter as stated in the White letters? I doubt Hunter would pick White as his best friend after the letters. 19. A MW relative, Tal Jones, who has close ties to the Whites also, attempted to interfere with the Grand Jury and alluded to a 'connection' in the BPD. Could have been Haney, might have been Thomas. Yes, and from personal experience I can tell you that Mr. Jones probably wanted to find some way to taint the evidence that went before the grand jury. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, and that goes for anything he may say regarding the Ramseys as well as the Whites. 20. Has been silent on the MW allegations while the Ramseys, who could be exonerated by those allegations, if they're not also involved, have also remained silent. I'm a little lost here. IMHO the Ramseys remain silent, because they are behind this mess. They quit bashing Fleet White and fell in love with him a while back. They now have others doing their dirty work for them. I should say attempting to do their dirty work for them. 21. Changed 6-year-old JonBenets underwear, helped her in the bathroom, which should be cause for deep concern about the propriety of such behavior or the free license given by the Ramseys to do so. Yes, it appears so since the Ramseys saw fit to phone Boulder about it during the funeral. 22. Wrote numerous long letters to the People of Colorado, Gov. of Colorado, newspapers, and visited the BPD 18 times to ask that he be cleared. Yes he must have wanted to lay low as far as the police were concerned. I will give him this. He was in the police station 18 times. Whites 18 Ramseys -0- pretty lopsided score. 23. *Allegation Alert* Has been named as the son of an abusive sexual exploitationist. Well he either is or is not the son of the abusive sexual exploitationist. Who named him, and can you lead me to a quote, an article, a photo, anything to help me here? 24. *Allegation Alert* Owns an oil company that produces money but exists only on paper. If true, sounds more like taxes than sex. 25. Expected the press to retract a perfectly legal story based on a press release by the BPD concerning an investigation into MW. I'm going to have to take your word on this one. 26. *Allegation Alert* In spite of Internet threats made by presumed cohorts which allude to defamation lawsuits, has yet to file one against any entity. Well we all know about internet threats don't we. He must have gone to the Ramsey Law School. If you're innocent, sue the bastards. That's all....... That's enough. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "I am" Posted by Ribaldone on 15:25:12 7/25/2000 8 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE