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Alleged Abuser, darby, 10:25:44, 8/04/2000 darby, , LurkerXIV, 18:44:27, 8/04/2000, (#1) How about, v_p, 08:43:01, 8/05/2000, (#2) vp, short timer, 08:47:36, 8/05/2000, (#3) How about you, v_p, 08:48:43, 8/05/2000, (#4) vp, short timer, 08:53:01, 8/05/2000, (#5) Lurker, v_p, short timer, darby, 09:26:15, 8/05/2000, (#7) FLOL, Pookie, 09:20:47, 8/05/2000, (#6) besides, v_p, darby, 09:54:28, 8/05/2000, (#8) darby, , LurkerXIV, 11:31:03, 8/05/2000, (#9) LOL, LX14!, darby, 13:02:31, 8/05/2000, (#10) You're so right, v_p, 13:13:50, 8/05/2000, (#12) SC, Pookie, 13:12:01, 8/05/2000, (#11) MW?......, Pedro, 13:25:02, 8/05/2000, (#13) Suggestion, Pookie, 13:38:02, 8/05/2000, (#14) Pookie, v_p , darby, 13:45:31, 8/05/2000, (#15) Pedro, darby, 13:51:05, 8/05/2000, (#16) Yes Darby....., Pedro, 14:09:31, 8/05/2000, (#17) ................................................................... "Alleged Abuser" Posted by darby on 10:25:44 8/04/2000 Put me in a corner. Punish me. I'm going to talk about MW again. Nobody on this forum invented this woman nor did we invent her alleged claims. Let's take a second look at the articles that we have read about Mystery Woman. A woman who claims to have a provable connection with the Whites told the media and police that she had suffered from sexual abuse as a child at the hand of a wealthy friend of the Ramseys. She also said that she had suffered the same type of abuse that had been inflicted upon JBR on the murder night and that JBR was with the alleged abuser on the night of her murder. The woman's therapist was quoted as saying that 99% of MW's claims had been made prior to the murder of JBR. Lee Hill saw this documentation, and has been consistently backing MW. And the importance of this documentation being made prior to the murder cannot be overstated. If indeed MW told people about the type of abuse and named names of major Ramsey case figures prior to the JBR murder, then nobody can say MW made the claims up simply in response to what she had heard about the murder. I guess we can't automatically assume that the 99% that was chronicled before the murder included information about the alleged abuser, including naming his name and specific abuse. But Lee Hill would be a fool to back this woman if these very important elements were not part of the 99%. And by all accounts, Lee Hill is actually a genius. True, even smart people do stupid things sometimes, but can we conclude that he made one this time without further information? Now, the statement the BPD made concerning MW covered a lot of ground. It said that there is no evidence that Fleet White abused or killed JBR. It said that there is no evidence that the Ramseys were ever in a child sex ring. While the BPD statement did not say that MW's documentation exists, we certainly didn't hear that it doesn't. And considering that this documentation is truly ALL THAT MATTERS in the MW's alleged claims, this is truly a major omission. The other thing we heard in the BPD statement is that information about a child sex ring had been forwarded to the FBI. Now how can any of us say, "Okay, fine..NEXT!" and just ignore this as insignificant? I mean, maybe it will lead nowhere, but the point here is that we certainly can't make any assumptions that there can't possibly a child sex ring. I ask, how could the BPD turn over information about a child sex ring to the FBI if it is already known that the information is bogus? More importantly, WHY would they turn over information to the FBI that they KNOW is bogus? Wouldn't that be ridiculous? My point has always been that maybe there is nothing to this, but none of us knows for sure right now. And lots of questions need answering before anyone can know. I'll tell you what. How about we all agree that from now on we will refrain from naming the person that MW alleges abused her? How about we now call him "Alleged Abuser" ("AA" for short)? Would that make everyone happier? [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "darby, " Posted by LurkerXIV on 18:44:27 8/04/2000 I admire your persistence. I don't like the nickname of AA because it would associate child abuse with the fine organization, Alcoholics Anonymous, which saves lives and families. Can't we just call him "The Creep"? Or would too many people then confuse him with John Ramsey? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "How about" Posted by v_p on 08:43:01 8/05/2000 we name him "banned" from the WOR?? How about we don't bring this discussion over here? I come here to get away from having to be diplomatic to the likes of mary99 and morgan while they invariably spin off of the MW thead into mindless diatribes about FW the perv. Don't make me crazy...er. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "vp" Posted by short timer on 08:47:36 8/05/2000 How about you learning to not open threads that make you crazy..er?? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "How about you" Posted by v_p on 08:48:43 8/05/2000 kiss my a***?? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "vp" Posted by short timer on 08:53:01 8/05/2000 how about you flip it up here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Lurker, v_p, short timer" Posted by darby on 09:26:15 8/05/2000 Lurker--"The Creep" really isn't fair in the event that there is nothing to MW's claims--though if her claims are correct, The Creep may not even begin to describe the creep. I adore Alcoholics Anonymous myself. Maybe AA is a bad choice if some folks think of Alcoholics Anonymous every time they see AA. Let's see...how about Alleged Pedophile? AP? Any objections from anyone? Please speak now or forever hold your peace. Going once..... Twice..... OKAY! AP it is! v_p -- perhaps you are confusing the Workout Room with The Front Porch? Relaxing, non-controversial posts are on the Porch. The Workout Room causes blood to boil--this place is NOT for the faint of heart. short timer, I like your style! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "FLOL" Posted by Pookie on 09:20:47 8/05/2000 Now v_p is the WOR thread police/monitor? Give it a rest v_p....you are boring. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "besides, v_p" Posted by darby on 09:54:28 8/05/2000 It looks like your own ilk started it, so I'd suggest you have a word with them if you don't like the subject matter in the W.O.R. Look at the very first response on the "Deep Thoughts" thread. Her Ilkness herself practically invited people to come over here and defend themselves: 1. "Deep Responses" Posted by Lacey on 11:59:18 7/31/2000 What if the JB forum continues to be so boring that we are forced to start making up stuff? We don't need to make up stuff. Don't you read Holly Mame Morgan and Mary99? Me neither! LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "darby, " Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:31:03 8/05/2000 Every time you type AP, I'm going to think it's an Associated Press report. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "LOL, LX14!" Posted by darby on 13:02:31 8/05/2000 Okay. Lemme think... Maybe we need more than two initials. Abuser Of Kids AOK Whoops. Maybe not that... Alleged Sexual Scoundrel ASS It works but pushes the envelope on Chris' policy to keep language clean. Let's see. How about: Alleged Sexual Pervert ASP Yessssss. ASP it is! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "You're so right" Posted by v_p on 13:13:50 8/05/2000 I am boring. You, on the other hand, are a change of shorts a minute. Go ahead with your bad self, can't wait to read what you post next. Darby, my ilk? LOL, I'm sure lacey will appreciate that. And, btw, no matter what initials you give it, it's obvious you are still talking about FW, so why not just use his initials as you've done before? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "SC" Posted by Pookie on 13:12:01 8/05/2000 How about SC for Sacred Cow? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "MW?......" Posted by Pedro on 13:25:02 8/05/2000 .....Darby!!!! come on.....as far as I know here in the WOR rules are different, so you might be flamed :-), if so, remember that this is the WOR, and it HAS been MW Free so far!!!!! :-). Take care, hope you're doing fine Darby. Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Suggestion" Posted by Pookie on 13:38:02 8/05/2000 Why don't we just use the initial V for the pervert. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Pookie, v_p " Posted by darby on 13:45:31 8/05/2000 Pookie--LOL! Or maybe veritable_pedophile. ;-) Oh, and v_p, no, no, no, no, nooooooo. We want to accomodate you and your ilk. ASP it is. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Pedro" Posted by darby on 13:51:05 8/05/2000 Yes, sweetie, I am doing great these days! I hope you and China are doing well. Well, MW may not have been brought up directly, but I think the hatred spewed toward certain posters has everything to do with MW. The only sound defense seems to be a rational explanation of why certain posters tend to think it's possible that MW could be telling the truth. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Yes Darby....." Posted by Pedro on 14:09:31 8/05/2000 ......the truth has no sides and I believe a full investigation to this issue is still pending, I would like to know the truth. Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE