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Friends for JonBenet?, JR, 02:22:52, 8/17/2001 Semiliterate?, Mini, 13:39:59, 8/17/2001, (#1) a better price , Edie Pratt, 14:16:59, 8/17/2001, (#2) Edie, JR, 16:01:44, 8/17/2001, (#3) yep, Texan, 12:21:04, 8/21/2001, (#4) Mini, Ellique, 16:09:03, 8/21/2001, (#5) Ellique, in this case , Florida, 17:06:35, 8/21/2001, (#6) Florida, Ellique, 18:10:10, 8/21/2001, (#8) Elle, my friend, Mini, 17:47:12, 8/21/2001, (#7) Mini, Ellique, 18:20:51, 8/21/2001, (#10) (c) Ellique, JR, 21:01:55, 8/21/2001, (#16) Tsk, tsk, Elle, Mini, 18:19:27, 8/21/2001, (#9) Minii Mini, Ellique, 18:31:23, 8/21/2001, (#11) My dear Elle, Mini, 19:04:13, 8/21/2001, (#12) Mini, ayelean, 20:23:18, 8/21/2001, (#14) Name any book, newpaper, or any Instructional Man..., Ellique, 20:21:06, 8/21/2001, (#13) (c) Ellique, JR, 20:56:39, 8/21/2001, (#15) JR LOL!, Gemini, 21:07:04, 8/21/2001, (#17) (c) Versions, JR, 21:09:08, 8/21/2001, (#18) Geez, Gemini, 21:26:25, 8/21/2001, (#19) JR, Ellique, 10:02:05, 8/22/2001, (#20) Good morning, Ellique, Mini, 11:28:03, 8/22/2001, (#21) Mini, Ellique, 14:11:52, 8/22/2001, (#22) Fraudsters...I love it!, LurkerXIV, 14:40:19, 8/22/2001, (#23) Dear Elle, Mini, 15:11:59, 8/22/2001, (#24) Mini, Ellique, 15:26:35, 8/22/2001, (#25) (c) Writers, JR, 16:53:05, 8/22/2001, (#26) JR, Mini, 18:59:38, 8/22/2001, (#27) (c) Ah...but Mini, JR, 19:26:27, 8/22/2001, (#28) Did "JonBenet's Mother", zapata, 02:48:43, 8/23/2001, (#29) (c) Zapata, JR, 06:15:31, 8/23/2001, (#30) ................................................................... "Friends for JonBenet?" Posted by JR on 02:22:52 8/17/2001 Criminy posted on CS that the Friends For JonBenet organization had changed. Yep. It has. Wonder who came up with this classic statement: "Today in America and many societies, it is not. In America, by our laws, we have demonstrated that we care more about our money than we do about our children." Also wonder who priced the only two books listed on the sight. DOI $30.00 and JonBenet's Mother $20.00. Save yourself some money folks, you can get them both at www.booksamillion.com for $23.79. I must have missed the statement that the additional $26.21 goes to their favorite charity. The link: http://www.friendsforjonbenet.org/ [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Semiliterate?" Posted by Mini on 13:39:59 8/17/2001 Whoever did the writing doesn't know the difference between "its" and "it's"---grrrr. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "a better price " Posted by Edie Pratt on 14:16:59 8/17/2001 on those books can be found at your local Salvation Army, 25cents apiece. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Edie" Posted by JR on 16:01:44 8/17/2001 LOL! You are absolutely correct! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "yep" Posted by Texan on 12:21:04 8/21/2001 We sure must care more about money than children. If this were not so, the Ramseys would have been treated like the suspects they are and there would be JFJBR instead of the poor baby cold in the grave while her wealthy parents who have knowledge of her murder ,imo, enjoy life to the fullest. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Mini" Posted by Ellique on 16:41:32 8/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:41:32, 8/21/2001 I really need a break, so give me one, eh ? "it's" "its" ranks right up there with WHO, WHOM, NETHER, NITHER, FURTHER FARTHER, ETC, ETC, ETC. They didn't teach me the finer points of grammar, spelling, or punctuation in the second grade and I wasn't lucky enough to make it any further or farther but I have tried my darndest(sp) to make up for lost time over the years. My late entry into the art of written communication has indeed been a very big problem. As I have said so many time........."THANK GOD FOR MRS. KING", WHO IS THE FINEST GRAMMARIAN AND COMMUNICATOR, WHETHER SPOKEN OR WRITTEN, IN THE WORLD. BESIDES, WE LOVE EACH OTHER, PLATONICALLY OF COURSE. She tells me to do it the best way I know how and if people want to hone in on such trivialities, I sould let them wallow in their superiority complex. Now Mini, I love you and you know it but I godda say, "don't go there any more". If the communication contains the aformentioned words and you know exactly what the writer is conveying and they are used in proper context, what good does it do for you to bring it to their attention. If you were in a classroon situation, that would be different. Love you just the same, even though Caldonia ain't yo name. Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Ellique, in this case " Posted by Florida on 17:06:35 8/21/2001 "it's" "its" ranks right up there with WHO, WHOM, NETHER, NITHER, FURTHER FARTHER, ETC, ETC, ETC. you're wrong. It's and its have two entirely different meanings and can change the entire context of a sentence. Poor grammar might not be important to you but it is to many people. They really need a proofreader. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Florida" Posted by Ellique on 18:10:10 8/21/2001 What a wonderful example you have given me !! I know exactly what you mean but I also know that you would have been more grammatically correct to have said "meaning" and not "context" because in your response, "meaning" is the proper word to use and not "context". I would never ever correct you on your choice of words as long as I know what you are talking about. Thanks anyway, but don't be offended if I take a pass on your response. Tsk Tsk. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Elle, my friend" Posted by Mini on 17:47:12 8/21/2001 I am very aware that many intelligent people have trouble with grammar, spelling, and composition. I would never criticize them for language weakness in their private writing or informal communications. However, if they are intelligent, they should have realized by adulthood that they have a problem and make sure that someone more knowledgable proofreads their writing before they write anything for public consumption. To not do so smacks of incredible egotism or plain stupidity. You've got me Elle. Who is Caldonia? (See, I admit my lack of knowledge.) Love, Mini [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Mini" Posted by Ellique on 18:20:51 8/21/2001 But what good does it do to publically tell everyone that you caught so and so in an error, a grammatical one at that? Now Mini, Mini, Mini, surely you are old enough to remember LITTLE RICHARD and his hit record, the first lines of which go something like this: "CALDONIA! CALDONIA! What makes yo head so hard" I love you just the same even tho caldonia is yo name". Maybe someone out there can give us the correct lines to Little Richard's "CALDONIA" Love Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "(c) Ellique" Posted by JR on 21:01:55 8/21/2001 Senior Moment or are there other versions to this song? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Tsk, tsk, Elle" Posted by Mini on 18:19:27 8/21/2001 You've admitted that you don't have the greatest knowledge of the English language yet you attempt to correct Florida. Sorry to have to tell you this, Ellique, but her word choice was correct. I still remember you ranting about nonwords that people use, such as "complected." You were wrong then, too. Poor Ellique. Stick to your knowledge of the law and worm farms. Love, Mini [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Minii Mini" Posted by Ellique on 18:31:23 8/21/2001 Not so much incorrect as it was, say, ill-advised to use "context" instead of "meaning". No One knows more about Grammar than my beloved Mrs. King. She is my grammar guru extraordernaire. She says that if one uses complected instead of COMPLEXIONED, they are "not with it" even thought complected has indeed found its way into American English sort of like ain't instead of isn't or aren't etc. Tsk Tsk back at you but remember I love you just the same. Lovbe, Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "My dear Elle" Posted by Mini on 19:04:13 8/21/2001 I was trying to point out that there's a difference between private and public writing. If you're writing to influence people, surely it would make sense to give the impression that you're a skillful and intelligent writer. Whoever wrote that little spiel for the Ramseys certainly didn't do them a favor by showing his/her ignorance of language. It looked and sounded amateurish. I already explained the use of "complected" and you never answered me so I won't go into it again. And, yes, I know Mrs. King is a jewel but Florida is still correct. Thanks for the reference to "Caldonia." I don't remember the song. Love, Mini [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Mini" Posted by ayelean on 20:23:18 8/21/2001 Tsk, tsk, now don't you know how important Mrs King is to LEQ? She is his right hand. Yes I agree wholeheartedly that when something is presented to the public as in a web page, one should be extra careful to be exquisitely correct. The web page is a reflection of the owner. So goes the grammar, so goes the respect or regard of the owner. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Name any book, newpaper, or any Instructional Manual." Posted by Ellique on 20:21:06 8/21/2001 Tell me or Mrs king about it and she and/or we will find lots of grammatical and other errors in it. That is just the way life is. Even British publication are far from being exempt. I win this argument. Gdby, as in "The Weakest Link" Love Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "(c) Ellique" Posted by JR on 20:56:39 8/21/2001 Why do you involve me in your dang "points?" ;-\ Normally I would list the author but out of a dozen sites never located the name: CALEDONIA I don't know if you can see the changes that have come over me in these last few days I've been afraid that I might drift away so I've been telling old stories, singing songs that make me think about where I came from and that's the reason why I seem so far away today ah but let me tell you that I love you and I think about you all the time Caledonia you're calling me and now I'm going home but if I should become a stranger you know that it would make me more than sad Caledonia's been everything I've ever had I have moved and kept on moving proved the points that I needed proving lost the friends that I needed losing found others on the way I have kissed the ladies, left them crying stolen dreams, yes there's no denying I have travelled hard, sometimes with conscience flying somewhere in the wind CHORUS Now I'm sitting here before the fire the empty room, the forest choir the flames that couldn't get any higher they've withered, now they've gone but I'm steady thinking, my way is clear and I know what I will do tomorrow the hands have shaken and the kisses flow now I will disappear CHORUS http://www.dougiemaclean.com/albums/dougies%20lyrics/craigie%20dhu/CALEDONIA.htm [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "JR LOL!" Posted by Gemini on 21:07:04 8/21/2001 And, here I thought El' meant that old R&B song: Caldonia, doggone ya', What makes your big head so hard? But, I love ya, love ya just the same. Crazy 'bout my baby Caldonia is her name. : ) sometimes ya just have to know [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "(c) Versions" Posted by JR on 21:09:08 8/21/2001 This was the only one I found...over and over and over again. El - do yur own dang Google's then I won't get get them wrong - OK? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Geez" Posted by Gemini on 21:28:27 8/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:28:27, 8/21/2001 http://blueslyrics.tripod.com/lyrics/b_b_king/caldonia_version_1.htm#top sorry if it blows the margins, but enjoy anyway. edited to say - there are different versions depending on who's doing the recording. I think this one belongs to B.B. King. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "JR" Posted by Ellique on 10:02:05 8/22/2001 Hey there JR !! Good try but no cigar. :<) I don't remember who mentioned that perhaps that there were many R & B types who did that particular version of "CALDONIA", but somehow I can't get the vision of Little Richard out of my mind, you know that flamboyant Rock & Roller back in the 50s banging on the Piano and shouting: CALDONIA..CALDONIA..WHAT MAMKES YO HEAD SO HARD I LOVE YOU GAL BLA BLA BLA BLA, etc. Just thought I would through that in. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Good morning, Ellique" Posted by Mini on 11:28:03 8/22/2001 How did you win the argument? Because you said so? There's a big difference between minor errors and formal writing that has sentence fragments, incorrect punctuation, using a contraction for an adjective, etc. Ayelean's right. The quality of the writing reflects on one's perception of the writer or one's opinion of those whom the writer represents. Ask Mrs. King what she thinks. When I pointed out to Barnes & Noble that their sign saying "Open Everyday..." was incorrect, they actually changed it to "Every Day", so someone must care. Incidentally, if anyone shops at B&N I'd be curious to know if the signs in all their stores were changed. You know, Ellique, sometimes you are so gentlemanly and then all of a sudden you start getting a little bit mean. It's kind of like the way your writing style changes from time to time. Love, Mini [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Mini" Posted by Ellique on 14:11:52 8/22/2001 I am just an old and sometimes mean but sentamental cuss. You know how it is. When I said I WON!!! I was thinking back to the way "we lost in Vietnam" You know how we "Americans" like to brag about the fact that we never lost a war; therefore when our Government saw that there was no way of "winning" in Vietnam, it was proposed by maybe Johnny Carson or some others, including Washington types, that the best way to end it was to pronouce to the World that: "WE WON" and immediately get the L out. In a way, that is exactly what we did, Remember? Mini, we "Americans" are coining words all the time. Did you know that Shakespeare (sp) invented many many now standard English words, adjectives and adverbs, mainly. What is so internationally liked by the peoples the World, except France, is that our language is so flexible and easy to change even though changes sometime do complicate things for decades. This morning for example, I saw a word used by a reporter or somebody in the New York Post. They were reporting on the recent McDonald Scam you may have heard about. I went to the Post by link through Mrs. Brady's URLS. I digress, Well any way the "unquotationed" (see how easy it is) word was FRAUDSTERS. Now I can't find that word in any of my dictionaries. It may be that I have cheap reference books so I called Mrs. King and she said that FRAUDSTERS was a new one for her too. I sort of like the word, FRAUDSTERS. don't you? It says it all.... much better that having to say scammers or scam artists, IMHO. As I posted this, I went to my online Websters and guess what? NADA. If I had been Barns and Nobel's (sp) manager I would have thanked you warmly for bringing that out and then promptly said with clinched teeth without volume: You spell it your way lady and we will spell it ours if you don't mind. Based out your mindset, I take it that you would never step foot into another B&N until they cried "uncle" and changed it. I WIN, gdby, Love Ellique PS Just having fun with you Mini, Please humor your elders. PPS: How do you like my new word used in this post for the first time ever, I think!! UNQUOTATIONED**** FIRST USED BY ELLIQUE AUGUST 22, 2001. DEFINITION= (adj.) NOT IN QUOTATION MARKS. See Mini, It is a lot of fun isn't it!!!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Fraudsters...I love it!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 14:40:19 8/22/2001 It fits John and Patsy Ramsey so well!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Dear Elle" Posted by Mini on 15:11:59 8/22/2001 I see you love language, as do I. That's why I hate to see it abused. I see spelling mistakes and misuse of language all the time but wouldn't bother to correct it because I know I'd see those clenched teeth. B&N is a different story. They're part of the culture of literacy and a misspelled word on their sign doesn't fit that image. I like your word "unquotationed" and I like the sound of "fraudster" even though "fraud" and "defrauder" are perfectly good synonyms. Mrs. King must have had a calming influence on you. Love, Mini [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Mini" Posted by Ellique on 15:26:35 8/22/2001 How right you are. But I knew that all along, didn't I? Love, Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "(c) Writers" Posted by JR on 16:53:05 8/22/2001 Often take liberty with the language including grammar and so on. We enjoy their writing anyway. I like the two new words but I would (c) them Ma and L. ;-) You do remember how quickly the term Zippergate spread don't cha? Ellique I do have to agree with Mini on B&N but then they have never been my favorite book store to begin with. B&N along with Amazon are over priced IMHO. Though I love browsing in a bookstore I rarely buy books in them anymore. I buy 98% of my books on-line now, to save money (see my site as I have referenced my favorite bookstore far to frequently on here already.) To be fair, I should say I buy most things on line since moving here. Seems like (shop owners think) all women are over a size 6, be it in clothes and shoes, no one has a bust size smaller than 34 and your choices are WallMart or paying Macy's prices at a non-Macy's store. Also to be fair, I have been told the two "department" stores will order your size for you. Now...how do I know I want it or those shoes are comfy if I can't try things on? OK - off my soap box. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "JR" Posted by Mini on 18:59:38 8/22/2001 You're right about B&N, Borders, etc. being overpriced but by buying books online you miss that wonderful bookstore smell which to me tops even Thanksgiving turkey roasting in the oven. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "(c) Ah...but Mini" Posted by JR on 19:26:27 8/22/2001 I don't because I still browse them - just don't buy! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Did "JonBenet's Mother"" Posted by zapata on 02:48:43 8/23/2001 Does anyone know if "JonBenet's Mother" was ever published in hard cover? I paid $6.95 for my copy, and the publisher's site does not offer it in hardcover. The publisher also offers the book for sale for $6.95 DOI when it was publshed the price listed at Thomas/Nelson's site was either 23.95 or $24.95. I have been assured by Suzanne Goebel that there is no shipping or taxes added. LOL I guess not, they are selling the DOI and the $30.00 if purchased from that site will be tax-exempt. So will the $20.00's for Linda McLean's book. I bet they will deduct a fee for postage when they file their income tax return. (Friends For JonBenet.org I mean) Also, when Linda McLean released her book she made a statement that all profit would go into the JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation. I know that in late 99 or early 2000 they changed the foundation in some manner that they do not have to make their tax return's public. Can anyone help me with this. What action did they take that prevents the tax statement's for the foundation from being public knowledge. I know they also changed the mailing address for the foundation to an Atlanta P.O. Box. How can Linda McLean now donate her profit to the Friends For JonBenet organization? McLean also announced that she did not pay to have the book published. I saw somewhere not long ago that 14,000 copies of the McLean book had been sold. Can anyone verify that for me? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "(c) Zapata" Posted by JR on 06:15:31 8/23/2001 All I can say is that IMHO a heck of a lot of profit is being made off any books that site sells. I hope someone tracts the IRS files on it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE