Justice Watch "Tipster III" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... Tipster III, v_p, 16:04:23, 8/18/2001 Actually v_p, Gemini, 16:18:41, 8/18/2001, (#1) He sure has , v_p, 16:32:52, 8/18/2001, (#2) v_p, Watching you, 16:37:03, 8/18/2001, (#3) Well..., v_p, 16:44:32, 8/18/2001, (#4) You're right, veepee, Watching you, 16:50:28, 8/18/2001, (#5) yabut, v_p, 17:01:29, 8/18/2001, (#6) you can let this one drop, Gemini, 17:11:59, 8/18/2001, (#7) Duh!, Ginja, 17:21:37, 8/18/2001, (#9) Thread closed, v_p, 17:19:05, 8/18/2001, (#8) ................................................................... "Tipster III" Posted by v_p on 16:05:06 8/18/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:05:06, 8/18/2001 84. "Gem" Posted by Ginja on 15:19:31 8/18/2001 The sources for the old, degraded, cracked material goes beyond Thomas, and beyond Carol McKinley's statements to the same affect. I remember it being the talk of pundits way back when. But I also remember that way back when, there was a special "conference" of reknown pathologists, expert investigators, FBI and others, which was held outside official investigation boundaries, to go through the known evidence at the time. I'm not sure if it this conference was specifically pulled together to cover just this investigation, or if it's an annual thing whose topic that year happened to be this investigation. Forensic evidence at that time included the fact that the material under the nails was old, cracked and degraded. I also remember snippets from the conference being used in various documentaries and discussed by pundits on the various cable pundit shows. FWIW [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 85. "Ginja" Posted by Gemini on 15:41:18 8/18/2001 The pundits probably got the info from the same source as McKinley. However, the conference would, indeed, be a good source if it included FBI in the position to have inside info about the case. The trouble is ... "way back when" would be before the newer testing techniques were apparently used ... no? Do you have a general idea about when the conference was held? The prob I've had with this information for a year or more, now, is that it's very hard for me to believe the BPD would be spending city monies for tests that could not eliminate suspects and were ... thereby ... worthless. It makes much more sense that they have something to provide beneficial results. Not only that, but info has also been reported/leaked that a number of possible suspects (Barnhill? S. Miles?) were eliminated via their DNA samples. Plus, the BPD continue to seem to bank on DNA for elimination purposes. All these things pursuade me the DNA they took from the body/garments/hair is adequate for some important purposes ... especially ruling people out from under the umbrella. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 86. "I think we all agree" Posted by v_p on 16:00:35 8/18/2001 that the DNA they collected from JBR is enough to "eliminate" people, but not enough to form a solid prosecution on. IOW, even if mystery perp's DNA has some of the same characteristics as the DNA which was found beneath JBR's nails, it can only be, at best, "consistent" with the DNA, not a solid match, as there are not complete strands. Thus, the reasonable doubt factor. No one will be convicted solely on DNA evidence. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Actually v_p" Posted by Gemini on 16:18:41 8/18/2001 I just read a Wecht comment that suggests he does not believe the Rs could have been eliminated because the samples must have been "contaminated" ... whether he means prior to being discovered or later, I don't know. I don't think he really knows either, but is covering his butt to give credibility to his own opinion as a tab news "expert". This particular POV has been knocked around quite a bit, over time. I don't see it. I think it seems much more likely the investigators believe they have something useable. Possibly, Wecht is, in fact, the main source for all the talk of "contamination". [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "He sure has " Posted by v_p on 16:32:52 8/18/2001 one helluva tan, doesn't he? I'm not sure how much of an expert he is on DNA either Gem, but I tend to believe he consults with DNA experts and individuals with first hand knowledge of this case... so I give him a close listen when he speaks about this case. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "v_p" Posted by Watching you on 16:37:03 8/18/2001 are you cracking up? Why are there two tipster III threads, both started by you? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Well..." Posted by v_p on 16:44:32 8/18/2001 I disremember. I meant to name the other something else and now it's too late. Good gawd, do you really think anyone would have noticed if you hadn't brought it up??? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "You're right, veepee" Posted by Watching you on 16:50:28 8/18/2001 I probably shouldn't have said anything and no one would have noticed. My bad. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "yabut" Posted by v_p on 17:01:29 8/18/2001 Your perception is one of your bestest assets :o) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "you can let this one drop" Posted by Gemini on 17:11:59 8/18/2001 if you want, v_p ... or just copy the posts to the other one. There's good info there that shouldn't get away from us so quickly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Duh!" Posted by Ginja on 17:21:37 8/18/2001 V_P, I noticed the two threads too and I'm soooo confused. LOL I just posted in the other one to Mini. Now I want to post something to Gem. What are we doing? Are we combining them or going for broke and playing in two #3's? Signed, Acting Blonde in RI, LOL (Must be this delicious pina colada that's screwing me up!) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Thread closed" Posted by v_p on 17:19:05 8/18/2001 for idiocy... please see other Tipster III [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE