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Tuesday "Interview" Thread, Seashell, 09:08:59, 8/29/2000 Sea, sarah, 09:36:07, 8/29/2000, (#1) No JR?, Seashell, 09:39:22, 8/29/2000, (#2) Good idea, Seashell, Cassandra, 09:40:08, 8/29/2000, (#3) Didn't Carol say, Ev, 09:43:52, 8/29/2000, (#4) Did I mis- interpret CNN?, starry, 09:45:37, 8/29/2000, (#5) Last Hurrah?, docg, 10:11:16, 8/29/2000, (#6) How was Patsy, Holly, 14:28:41, 8/29/2000, (#34) "SO THE DOGS RETURN TO THEIR VOMITE", sissy, 13:32:32, 8/29/2000, (#30) Right-On, Docg..., shadow, 10:24:57, 8/29/2000, (#8) docg, summerhill, 10:15:39, 8/29/2000, (#7) Who really knows, Kaethe, 10:32:01, 8/29/2000, (#10) Kaethe, Florida, 10:46:16, 8/29/2000, (#11) Yep, eedayspa, 10:30:27, 8/29/2000, (#9) It's over, Starling, 10:47:03, 8/29/2000, (#12) Body Language, Seashell, 11:00:40, 8/29/2000, (#17) Seashell, Nandee, 12:17:21, 8/29/2000, (#28) How about , momo, 10:50:56, 8/29/2000, (#13) loud background noises, Edie Pratt, 10:58:37, 8/29/2000, (#16) Lol momo, Starling, 10:57:11, 8/29/2000, (#15) So what's the deal?, Kaethe, 10:56:38, 8/29/2000, (#14) Will Beckner speak?/Carol Reporting LIVE, Starling, 11:03:53, 8/29/2000, (#18) Bottom Line, Seashell, 11:07:55, 8/29/2000, (#19) sea, don't do that , sissy, 14:21:14, 8/29/2000, (#33) Foundation money?, janab, 11:12:53, 8/29/2000, (#20) I Think..., shadow, 11:15:28, 8/29/2000, (#21) GJ Time, Bobby, 11:21:37, 8/29/2000, (#22) Soooo...very happy the "JBR Foundation" card..., Dunvegan, 11:47:16, 8/29/2000, (#24) I think that it speaks volumes, sds, 11:46:07, 8/29/2000, (#23) Why not interview John?, sarah, 12:02:28, 8/29/2000, (#26) Yes, SDS, Edie Pratt, 11:52:51, 8/29/2000, (#25) Fiber in the room with JonBenet's body, Kaethe, 12:10:50, 8/29/2000, (#27) sarah, fly, 12:34:35, 8/29/2000, (#29) Fly, sarah, 14:48:33, 8/29/2000, (#35) Kaethe, janab, 13:34:32, 8/29/2000, (#31) Okay, janab, Kaethe, 13:49:01, 8/29/2000, (#32) Well, good ole Larry Schiller, sds, 15:07:38, 8/29/2000, (#36) ................................................................... "Tuesday "Interview" Thread" Posted by Seashell on 09:08:59 8/29/2000 Hopefully, this will keep us on the same page and we can always start another thread for the wilder things that happen! So far, I've just heard Carol say that Kane's leaving at noon. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Sea" Posted by sarah on 09:36:07 8/29/2000 You figured as much too, didn't you? I am not at all surprized John slivered out of this one too. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "No JR?" Posted by Seashell on 09:39:22 8/29/2000 >You figured as much too, didn't you? >I am not at all surprized >John slivered out of this one >too. I'm inclined to think that the prosecutors have what they want from Patsy and don't need JR. Or maybe he'll be questioned by someone else. I didn't hear that they were all leaving- just Kane. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Good idea, Seashell" Posted by Cassandra on 09:40:08 8/29/2000 I heard that Kane is leaving at noon. Someone thinks that means it's all over then. I hope not, unless they've decided to use the Grand Jury with the Umbrella People. I wonder why he is leaving early? He's not interested in John? What's going on? I would think he would stay, and offer suggestions even if he's not doing the actual questioning. It would be a shame to waste any of this time with the Rammers. They deign to speak to the investigators so seldom. They are granting an audience to the peasants, why not take full advantage of it? Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Didn't Carol say" Posted by Ev on 09:43:52 8/29/2000 they all had their suitcases this morning? I took that to mean they checked out of their hotel and they are all leaving by the end of the day. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Did I mis- interpret CNN?" Posted by starry on 09:45:37 8/29/2000 I heard on CNN that all the detectives, etc. arrived this morning with their overnight bags and that they were catching a flight back to Boulder. Perhaps, the reporter didn't mean all of them were going back to Boulder, but that's what she said and that's how I interpreted it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Last Hurrah?" Posted by docg on 10:15:48 8/29/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 10:15:48, 8/29/2000 We waste too much energy on these forums castigating "the Ramseys" and forget how truly awful this particular "investigation team" has been. The ONLY strategy they've ever had has been "pound hard on Patsy and hope she'll crack." I really hope I'm wrong, but all signs are that this new session was just more of the same same same. It's not working, it never worked and it won't work any better in future than it is now. What we're witnessing today is the last feeble Hurrah of one of the most totally incompetent investigation teams in the history of law enforcement. It seems clearer to me every day that if these folks had been on the ball, the case would have been solved within the first month. OF COURSE it was an inside job. OF COURSE both Patsy and John have been lying. These investigators know that! If it wasn't obvious in the past, it certainly is obvious now from what they've written in their book and what they've stated in their many public interviews, so laced with contradictions and obvious lies that the vast majority of the public now finds them utterly reprehensible. So WHAT is the problem here? WHY more and more and more of the same DUMB questions about totally inconclusive fibre evidence, totally pointless questions over whether or not Burke had adequate security and why? NO ONE went through that window!!!!! But the window was BROKEN, debris was underneath it and a suitcase was set up underneath it. If this is not a crystal clear sign of a staged break-in then what COULD it be a sign of? So WHY worry about how many people had keys or whether or not John checked all doors to be sure they were locked, why not just see the obvious and move on from there to an INDICTMENT? Indict them BOTH for obstruction of justice, slap them BOTH in prison with NO bail and THEN ask your questions. Law enforcment deals on a daily basis with crimes where at least two suspects point a finger at one another. If such cases can be dealt with, then why not THIS one? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "How was Patsy" Posted by Holly on 14:28:41 8/29/2000 hammered? Just because she answered alot of questions doesn't mean they were trying to get her to crack. To me it just means they had alot of questions about her prior statements. And that could be because she has run her mouth for years and given them lots of concerns and conflicting explanations. They should use this trip as a basis for a 2nd Grand Jury. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. ""SO THE DOGS RETURN TO THEIR VOMITE"" Posted by sissy on 14:11:29 8/29/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:11:29, 8/29/2000 ALL along this track there have been blocks set up by that whore slute colorado law of justice in colorado. OWENS is a pervert himself along with the state on this .this is a system gone wrong, and been that way a long time. setig on your sorry low assses and let crime prevail . now even thru they are paid and voted in to do these jobs. now if you got bad eggs you throw out .if they are all bad thee need to be completely eradicated from the justice system, or any thing else that may be of power. these creep authorities have went along with every evil of injustice. not to mention the other kids in this country. Those men responsable for this law is corrupt. how can justice prevail if they can not decern the right and wrong? they can't . IT'S like me telling my yr one old baby don't crawl outside the gate honey you may get hit by a car , what is will it do as i said. ? no it don't have any reason of comprehension about what is the reason. but these guys that think they are somebody in the system had better see what way they go, for we will take the law into our hands as these guys prevail to their unjustce.AMERICA IS in big trouble here. lawlesssness is prevailing thru out this country. That murder was done by the ramseys else all this shit would have been forgotten by now .i for one would shut up about it. but because the parents have trick dicked the cops and their friends even their suppose to be godly friends.... tells me all we need to know .KNOWING very well there was no intruder in that house. says the law is evil in this matter. but know that the authorities are as bad, says. saddle up your horses. folks, there are trail's to blaze and we had better burn our own barley fields here. start now to discard the trash and do without it until we find the justice will work. it is up to us folk but it takes the whole bunch. ,,,,, not tom jerry dick and john , the whole bunch.we had better see this coming top our home. and what will we do. if there is not law for our kids the pain we suffer to raise them will overtake our own and we will all be evil cause we have no morals what so ever.and the ones we have and respect now will slip away . folks you must think what will i do . would i go this way? do i care. can i keep my respect? for my kids as they are mine. or will i forget cause i have no justice system to help guide my conscence? i can't just say i will be ok. even thro the evil is around with no law. could i turn as they? yes i think it would corrupt me also . moreso without the justice system enforce. the law is suppose to work for these kids . THIS COUNTRY HAS MORE CHILD SEX ABUSE AND CHILD KILLINGS THAN THE WORLD TOGETHER. FOLKS MOM ,DAD WE ARE TO BLAME FOR WHAT HAPPEN TO JONBENET AND THE OTHERS. LET ME SAY WE ARE A SORRY BUNCH TO LET GOV PREVAIL IN THESE MATTERS . IT IS TIME THIS PEOPLE TO STAND FOR A DECENT ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE. DON'T YOU THINK? AND WE DON'T NEED OUR TAX DOLLARS TO GIVE TO THE ROBBERS OF OUR INNOCENT CHILDREN. WE JUST NEED TO SAY I WILL NOT PAY ,I WON'T AND THE VOTERS CAN SAY THE HELL WITH YOU LOWLIFE CREEPS OF THIS SO CALLED TRAP YOU HAVE SET BEFORE US, WE ARE DECENT PEOPLE TO SAY THAT .WE MUST COME FROM OUR LITTLE ROCK OF SAFETY. we must prove to them they are a corrupt bunch, boulder must be full of sex play abusers cause they have let go of the rope and it got jonbent. we can say oh help me jesus all we want in this country but god will no hear about ou cause the sin of sodum is rampant.is there any one left in boulder that has a clean heart? to say this child was killed in the evilest way there was. can we say i wouldn't want this to come by my house? no matter who ,what , or when?????????????????????????????????????????? sorry about this book i hope you can read i can't. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL sissy ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Right-On, Docg..." Posted by shadow on 10:24:57 8/29/2000 "Indict them BOTH for obtsruction of justice, slap them BOTH in prison with NO bail and THEN ask your questions." I have been saying go for obstruction of justice forever! There is going to be no murder, manslaughter, whatever, charges - unless someone breaks. shadow PS: Another attractive option is to turn the FBI loose, so they can turn Wood's office into another Waco... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "docg" Posted by summerhill on 10:15:39 8/29/2000 AH, et. al.? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Who really knows" Posted by Kaethe on 10:32:01 8/29/2000 ...but the participants what went into setting up the strategy for these interviews. But I cannot believe that these interviews wouldn't be VERY well thought out and planned WITH the FBI's input. Seems there would be have been lots of looking into different scenarios, what to ask when, what to do if the answers went this way instead of that way. Hell, this forum could do all that in a day! Can't you just see the detectives taking turns "being" Patsy while they acted out the interviews. Ha! I would think that BPD wouldn't want this to be a lost opportunity with a lot of "if only's" when it was all over. And don't we think the FBI cares what happens in this case? Speaking of the FBI, I heard that in the A&E program last night John made the statement that the FBI was never even physically present at the Ramsey's home on that first day, only talked to the BPD on the phone. Is that true? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Kaethe" Posted by Florida on 10:46:16 8/29/2000 I understood them to say the FBI hooked up the phone traps and tapes around 9:30 in the morning of the 26th - saw the note and thought it odd and they acutually did go to the Ramsey home at 2:00 after JonBenet's body had been found. They volunteered to help with anything at that point but were turned down. The next day the BPD asked them for assistance. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Yep" Posted by eedayspa on 10:30:27 8/29/2000 Sounds good, docg..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "It's over" Posted by Starling on 10:47:03 8/29/2000 Levin and Beckner conducted most of this day's interviews, with only 5-10% of the questions being asked by Kane, according to Wood. Ramsey's have gave leads, not names. The answered all questions put to them, except those that centered around forensic evidence. Patsy feels they still have doubt and by talking with them, for two days they are not suddenly going to do an "about face," - the only way they can do that is if she "hands over the killer" and she can't do that. John want's peace for his family "we want closure", his family's name has been destroyed - no interest in restoring it. Patsy's says they wanted our help and we were here to do that. Wood says these people (J&P) are not fools and the last time he checked he wasn't a fool.FLOL He ascerts, that this was no PR stunt.... contrary to repeated statements made, this family HAS cooperated with police. No one forced them into this, and they should get credit for that. Wood trying to close the interview saying "let's go" and the primary witnesses just stood there, like they wanted to talk some more.Lol Camera's cut away. Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Body Language" Posted by Seashell on 11:00:40 8/29/2000 Did anyone notice that when LW was talking about the killer, he turned to PR and put his hand on her shoulder. I have it on tape and I went WHOE!!!! This man just unconsicously named Patsy the killer. And no wonder she said she can't hand over the killer. The way she SAID that was creepy. It was more along the lines of "I WON'T hand over the killer." There's tons of stuff in that interview. They now like Beckner so it's time for Beckner to slam bang them! JR obviously did not want PR talking. And that remark about Burke. JR was saying that the BPD said no one was cleared and Patsy piped up with "Except Burke." And then she smiled. I got chills again. Again jumping to Burke's defense. Did the BPD say NO ONE was cleared, inferring that Burke was also uncleared? And PR is trying to muddy the waters on national TV by saying he's cleared? What about JAR and GPP? Are they now uncleared? What's THAT's all about? docg, again I disagree. I think they came away with something - hopefully a new GJ. Maybe Patsy is the killer after all. BTW, the both look like chit. That's what 3 1/2 years of lying does to people. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Seashell" Posted by Nandee on 12:17:21 8/29/2000 Body language is something I have just done some reading on..... I didn't see LW put his hand on Patsy.... Was it his left hand? What was he saying at the time?? People who are lying look to the left. (The head does not need to move.... just the eyes are enough.) The frequently gesture with the left hand also. In addition, they might use their left hand to touch their nose or their ear... All mean deciet... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "How about " Posted by momo on 10:50:56 8/29/2000 the loud clanking noise in the background? LOL It was taking over their spotlight so they called it a rap. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "loud background noises" Posted by Edie Pratt on 10:58:37 8/29/2000 at first I thought someone was moving a grate, but afterawhile, I was praying for gun shots. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Lol momo" Posted by Starling on 10:57:11 8/29/2000 I have to admit, at one point it startled me too. From where I sit it appears John didn't get asked much.... Kane going to another state had a different flight schedule, than the others. He left at noon and within 30-45 minutes it was all over. Did you notice John telling everyone, that they would never be cleared as being suspects, and that actually no one ever has been cleared - Patsy chimed in "except Burke" and John said "except Burke." Well, I thought John Andrew was cleared. And Melinda. And the Whites. Etc. Etc. I can't believe John wouldn't remind them, that all his kids are supposedly cleared. What was that all about? Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "So what's the deal?" Posted by Kaethe on 10:56:38 8/29/2000 Did they even talk to John at all? Or did they spend a few minutes just finishing up with the Patsy and call it a wrap? If they truly never had any real interest in even talking with John --this is VERY curious! The investigators said they wanted to talk to Patsy "first" when maybe the truth was closer to, "We just need to talk to Patsy, please". Hmmmm... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Will Beckner speak?/Carol Reporting LIVE" Posted by Starling on 11:03:53 8/29/2000 Earlier news bytes stated that Beckner would follow the Ramsey's protocol, after these interviews. If they released a press release - he would - if they made a statement - he would - if they held a news conference - he would. Carol reporting it's been a day and a half of questions mostly for Patsy. John and Patsy were smiling, making it appear things went well. BOTH parents were questioned today. Wood says he thinks the police will now clear the Ramseys - Carol wondering if they will do that. Starling [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Bottom Line" Posted by Seashell on 11:07:55 8/29/2000 BECKNER, BRING ON THE GRAND JURY! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "sea, don't do that " Posted by sissy on 14:21:14 8/29/2000 SAVE THAT MONEY. get a rope and lets all go to dodge city. i would really call this justice also. i mean if we are going to get justice here get it which ever way .but get it. 4 yrs is long enough to say we are trying.BULL SHIT tell me a fairy tale that will have an end someday. WE NEED THE GRAND CHILD MOLESTER AND THE MISS SLUTE AMERICAN TO ACT LIKE SOMEBODY. THEY ARE SHIT. IN MY BOOK AND I 'VE READ A LOT OF BOOKS LATELY. ON WHAT THEY ASRE SO I MUST AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT OTHERS ALSO THINK. SEA they don't need a gj. just one good hanging .thats all . that is my mercy for these colorado kid killers. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Foundation money?" Posted by janab on 11:13:25 8/29/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 11:13:25, 8/29/2000 In addition to fibers and security for Burke, apparently some of the objected-to questions concerned the JBR Foundation. I didn't know where else to put this information. Here's the quote from an MSNBC article: "He [Wood] also renewed threats to end the separate interviews of the Ramseys if authorities continued to probe matters not directly related to the investigation, such as security for JonBenét's brother, Burke, when he returned to school after his sister's death, and donations made to a foundation the family set up. He also objected to questions about fiber evidence in the case. Boulder police Chief Mark Beckner, who is leading the team questioning the Ramseys, defended Kane before Tuesday's session, saying Ramsey didn't want to answer "some tough questions" that could help lead detectives to her daughter's killer." Thaaaat's all, folks. Whatcha' think? . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "I Think..." Posted by shadow on 11:15:28 8/29/2000 the BPD isn't ready to "clear" the Ramseys. shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "GJ Time" Posted by Bobby on 11:21:37 8/29/2000 Going home to set it up. After that national fiasco they just have to. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Soooo...very happy the "JBR Foundation" card..." Posted by Dunvegan on 11:47:16 8/29/2000 ...was played. I wonder if the Feds had any input on THAT question? Is it possible that any malfeasance found there could possibly lead to tax evasion or fraud charges? Might be time to add a tax lawyer to the payroll. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "I think that it speaks volumes" Posted by sds on 11:46:07 8/29/2000 that the Umbrella People wouldn't answer any questions about fiber evidence. If a red fiber from Patsy's blazer was found on the floor of the room were jbr's body was found, then she has a lot of explaining to do on how it got there. And if another one of those fibers were in the paint tote, then the BPD can surely tie her into the crime scene. So I think that Mr. Woods better realize that his clients aren't going to be cleared any time soon. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Why not interview John?" Posted by sarah on 12:02:28 8/29/2000 You know what I think? I think Kane and or the BPD realized early on in the interviews that little Linwoody was gonna put a thorn in their direction. That with him there whining and pawing the rug, little if any, progress could be made. I think they regrouped around lunch time yesterday, and a decision was made (by somebody) to call an early halt to the interviews - what all the reasons are, we do not know. I do hope the Boulder 7 came in as a team and left as a team. But I think either Kane has had enough of their melodramatics, and is willing to bide his time, or, or,or, the whole thing really wasn't planned as well as they thought. I do believe they were successful in netting some information vital to the prosecution. When, oh when, is AH oh-fish-ally out? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Yes, SDS" Posted by Edie Pratt on 11:52:51 8/29/2000 that would definitely put Patsy in the room. I don't understand what good that fibernews is to Wood, I mean, the truth is the truth is the truth. What difference does it make if he knows it? They can't make the evidence go away, nor can they change their stories to accomodate it. What possible explanation can there be to the fiber in the paint tray? She said she didn't go down there, so is that to say the "intruder" put on Patsy's faux Channel while raping and killing her baby? I think not. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Fiber in the room with JonBenet's body" Posted by Kaethe on 12:10:50 8/29/2000 ...doesn't seem that difficult to explain. As soon as John went into the room he could have carried fibers from Patsy. And since she was wearing that red Christmas sweater on that fateful night PLUS all the next morning, any fibers in the room itself don't seem a big problem for Patsy. Red fibers from the sweater anywhere on Jon Benet wouldn't be a big problem since she was with her sweatered mother all the night before. But seems to me any red fibers in the paint tray WILL give the Patsy defenders some problems. Are we being asked to believe she often painted while wearing THE Christmas sweater? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "sarah" Posted by fly on 12:34:35 8/29/2000 sarah - According to a press release from BPD that ericasf just posted, JR was interviewed - for about 2.5 hours today. PR was interviewed for only about 30 minutes. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Fly" Posted by sarah on 14:48:33 8/29/2000 Nice stab, but you're waay to quick playing cybercorrrection police. You need to check dates before you attempt to correct someone. I wrote the above opinion post, which proved to be right on, BEFORE the press release was issued. How would I know they spent a few hours interviewing John? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Kaethe" Posted by janab on 13:34:32 8/29/2000 This doesn't change the end result of what you're saying (which I agree with, BTW), but I believe the fibers that belong to Patsy are red and black and came from the blazer that she was wearing to the Whites. She allegedly wore this blazer over a red shirt/sweater. The next morning, she only wore the shirt/sweater, not the blazer. That's my recollection, anyway. . janab [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Okay, janab" Posted by Kaethe on 13:49:01 8/29/2000 Thanks -- that makes sense. I had that funky sweater of Patsy's stuck in my mind and ignored the red/black jacket! I've heard a lot of posters today talking about a Patsy's jacket and if the jacket has "black and red fibers" then that's a whole different ball game than the sweater. Can't see why the jacket wouldn't just come off once you walk in the door, instead of it having it's fibers float around to the basement. ;o) Picture Patsy's dismay if she actually never went to the basement with Jon Benet (or her body) and it was John that had carried her jacket's fibers into the room and the paint tray. That doesn't mean I don't see Patsy as a central figure in Jon Benet's murder -- only that I can see her avoiding the scene in the basement. That looks like John's handywork to me. JMHO [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Well, good ole Larry Schiller" Posted by sds on 15:07:38 8/29/2000 just admitted on MSNBC that those pesky red fibers were ALSO on the blanket that jbr was wrapped in. Now I firmly believe that this places Patsy directly and inescapedly at the crime scene. These were not transfer fibers, these came directly from Patsy. If you have read any crime books, you know this is a powerful investigative tool.(finding fibers at the crime scene in 3 different places.) So now I think that it is time to call a Grand Jury for the Umbrella People, don't you, Edie Pratt? Looks like Patsy did the murder, but the jury is out on JR's involvement, ala Incest. Perhaps those of you are right that ole Pats did it to save jbr from a fate such as hers at the hands of her father, the elusive Donald Paugh. Yes, now the pieces are coming together. Thank you, BPD. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE