Justice Watch "Ramsey appear in Augusta, Georgia" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... Ramsey appear in Augusta, Georgia, Dunvegan, 10:24:31, 9/05/2001 Gee, what happened here?, A.K., 18:41:31, 9/05/2001, (#1) While I was trying to edit one specific post..., Dunvegan, 19:55:25, 9/05/2001, (#2) No no no no!!!, A.K., 01:57:33, 9/06/2001, (#3) A.K., Twitch, 04:57:53, 9/06/2001, (#4) Twitch, A.K., 00:14:26, 9/07/2001, (#5) ................................................................... "Ramsey appear in Augusta, Georgia" Posted by Dunvegan on 10:24:31 9/05/2001 .................................................. "Ramsey appear in Augusta, Georgia" Posted by Twitch on 09:49:45 9/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:49:45, 9/03/2001 Last night the Ramseys appeared on cable access channel 36 in Augusta, Georgia. They were promoting and signing the paperback issue of their book, The Death of Innocence, and holiday cards sold through the JonBenet Ramsey Foundation. These cards featured drawings by JonBenet. They spoke very little about the case itself dwelling, instead, on the affect of JonBenet's death on their lives. They spoke of the pain of being accused and targeted for their daughter's death. John told again of how they are constantly being approached, in all public locations, by people with good wishes for them. They said that these people must be of God as they always appear at their lowest points. They also were thankful to Lou Smit for embracing them in their struggle. Patsy relayed the story of the artist she trusted in Charlevoix that turned out to be a plant from the tabloids. She said Susan "Bulldog" Stine had been suspicious of the woman all along. She also said that Stine has been there for them in many ways, including as protector from those in the public trying to harm them with gossip. The book was pushed strongly by the hosts throughout the segment and everyone was encouraged to read the Ramsey's account of events and not rely on the media coverage for the truth. During one section the Ramseys were given questions from callers to answer. The first question was why they had not cooperated with police. Patsy asked the woman caller why she felt they had not cooperated with police and used this an an example of unfair media manipulation and distortion of facts by the BPD. She also described the Atlanta questioning by BPD. She said they were prepared to answer all questions but the questions were not asked. She then mocked BPD Beckner at the press conference following the session as he told the media the BPD did not get all the answers they wanted. These questions were given to Patsy on index cards and not directly asked by callers. At the show's end, the hosts held hands with Patsy and John and prayed an enthusiatic prayer for God to protect them from evil gossip and compel the killer to come forward. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 1. "very, very, interesting....." Posted by 1000Sparks on 06:08:35 9/03/2001 I too pray the killers come forth....Patsy, where forth art thou..... Was this a specific religion? Did they change again? Great info Twitch. Thanks. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 2. "Patsy's faulty memory is going to be something..." Posted by Dunvegan on 06:10:54 9/03/2001 ...behold on the "witless stand".... Not everyone has approached her with shamrock cookies. Some people, probably not just the one we know about...greet Pats with, "Well, hello Murderer!" in public quite a bit. She just kinda forgot sorta to lie and bolster her cable access image. From LKL...to tabloids...to cable access. Next stop: Ramsey WebCam.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 3. "Great scoop" Posted by starry on 06:14:43 9/03/2001 Twitch! These people give religion a bad name. Money hungry, grubby people profiting off "that child's" death. Guess all the profits will go to the JBR Foundation, right? Can we say Scamsey's? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 4. "Twitch" Posted by 1000Sparks on 06:20:26 9/03/2001 Did they give an address where to order these lovely cards? Did they give the address of the foundation? What was Patsy's demurrrrrrrr Tell us more..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 5. "hahahaha, ahhh, well" Posted by Watching you on 06:23:29 9/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:23:29, 9/03/2001 Patsy, you won't be handed cards with questions on them when you are deposed or in court. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you.... What give you the idea we didn't cooperate with police..... let me count the ways...beeeaaaccchhh, from this woman to you, you are a stinking liar. The God you profess to worship despises liars and hypocrites. He despises haughtiness and pride. He despises anyone who would use His name to further their own cause. He especially hates murderers of innocents. Patsy Ramsey, the day of reckoning approaches. Are you ready? Edited to say, good job, Twitch. Thanks. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 6. "Sparky" Posted by Twitch on 06:29:33 9/03/2001 They did put the address of the JBR foundation on the screen. Patsy was very talkative and animated. John was much quieter and subdued. At one point Patsy cried and hugged her head onto John's chest. During the prayer, the camera showed a closeup of them holding hands. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 7. "And, what" Posted by Watching you on 06:32:16 9/03/2001 did John did when Patsy snuggled her head into his chest? Puke? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 8. "Well he did seem to gulp real hard" Posted by Twitch on 06:33:52 9/03/2001 He looked a bit uncomfortable during the entire show. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 9. "What was Patsy's" Posted by Watching you on 06:35:48 9/03/2001 demeanor, Twitch? Was she obnoxious beeach as usual? Were her clothes fashionable or is she a whale these days - as in, were her clothes too tight? I heard this. Just wondering. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 10. "As I said..." Posted by Twitch on 06:55:10 9/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:55:10, 9/03/2001 Patsy was very animated and talkative. She had on a tightly fitted red(?)jacket, white snug fitting blouse, and, I think, black pants. The reception on this station is not the best so the colors could be off some. Also I picked up the broadcast at about 9:05. I don't know when it started. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 11. "Tight? Oh, you mean" Posted by Watching you on 06:43:33 9/03/2001 all her buttons were straining. Gottcha, Twitch. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 12. "Access channel interview?" Posted by Show Me on 07:36:22 9/03/2001 How low they have sunk.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 13. "Good Wishes~" Posted by Aurora on 08:04:01 9/03/2001 John/Patsy ....Aurora....was not one to wish you well. Guess...you forgot all about me...and the others ...like me...who wish you two would get what you truly deserve! You haven't fooled the world...only yourselves. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 14. "Could this be channel 36? WBN?" Posted by MrsBrady on 08:26:05 9/03/2001 check this out... http: //www.augustachronicle.com/stories/061497/spauldingletter.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 15. "Here's another one" Posted by MrsBrady on 08:32:26 9/03/2001 they sound desperate... http ://www.augustachronicle.com/stories/012597/fea_religioustv2.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 16. "Thanks Twitch" Posted by v_p on 09:18:38 9/03/2001 . What'd they do, go through all of her little sketches and decide which ones would sell the best? GROSS. What the fluck does the JonBenet Ramsey foundation do exactly? Where does the money go. I WANT TO KNOW. Patsy and John, do me a favor you gross, pathetic pieces of chit, visit http://www.pollyklaas.org/safetyk it.htm http://www.pollyklaas.org/ http://www.pollyklaas.org/index2.htm http://www.klaaskids.org/ http://www.klaaskids.org/pg-leg.htm JonBenet Ramsey Foundation offerings? First of all, where's the website? The one with all the missing children banners? The one pleading for legislative changes ... changes, maybe, in how the law protects the MURDERERS instead of the victims... http://www.thesmokin ggun.com/archive/jbrfound1.shtml "Shortly after their daughter JonBenet was murdered in December 1996, John and Patsy Ramsey founded a charity in their late child's name. The JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation, they said, was set up to "raise money for children's education and care" and to protect against "the victimization of children." But as these excerpts from the group's 1997, 1998, and 1999 IRS returns show, the Ramsey charity has been a flop, making only two donations during that period (totaling $2769) while raising just $19,000. After giving a single $2000 gift to a Boulder, Colorado church, the Ramsey foundation finished last year with total assets of $6415. In 1998, the group made no donations while raising just $2703 (expenses that year were $2679). In 1997, Patsy (foundation president) and John (foundation veep) made one contribution: $769 to the Boulder Crime Stoppers program. As philanthropists, they make good murder suspects. " ~*~***~*~*~~* Mark Klaas didn't go on about how HE was the victim, (which, in a sense, he was), of his daughter's abduction and murder, he talked about his daughter. He pushed for legislation to protect other children. He could have gone home after the trial and called it a day, they found the murderer of his child. What's wrong with this picture Patsy? John?? Limpwood???? Don't worry though, the Aisenbergs aren't doing anything but protecting their rotten a$$es too... birds of a feather... I did find 2 websites for baby Sabrina: http://www.marvelcreations.co m/sabrina.html And this website wasn't even put up by the Aisenbergs, but by someone who writes: "This website is dedicated to Sabrina Paige Aisenberg and in Loving Memory of my son, John Dion Ridenour-Marvel." ~*~*~**~**~~* REDACTED BY DUNVGAN DUE TO JUSTICE WATCH "HOUSE RULE NO. ONE: House Rule No. 1: Do unto others. On Justice Watch, you'll find people from all over - all ages, races, religions, national origins, sexual orientations, points of view, and genders. The differences in people are part of what makes Justice Watch such fertile ground for cultivating new ideas and relationships. But nothing can poison it faster than hateful statements, harassment, threats of harm or any kind of abuse. All members have the right to express their opinions; please respect that right. 17. "Yes Maw" Posted by Twitch on 09:49:18 9/03/2001 Thats it..should be channel 36. I'll change it. Thanks 18. "I hope" Posted by JR on 10:46:27 9/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 10:46:27, 9/03/2001 People do by their book but from a cheaper source. Only when poeple unfamilar with the case read that self serving piece of dribble will they start reading the other books and putting it togeather that there is something wrong with this picture. Edited to say: You would be surprised at how a couple of my family members have been upset with me because The Ramsey's are "Christians" therefore, they wouldn't harm their child. These same folks got upset when I picked on Dubya's drinking because he is a "born again Christian." There are none so blind as those who cannot see. 19. "JBR Christmas Card" Posted by LurkerXIV on 10:46:29 9/03/2001 The picture she drew of the sharp-fingernailed monster is on front, with the words: My Mom killed me on Christmas Inside: Have a nice one, anyway! At least, that's the way I would design it. 20. "Ok" Posted by Tricia on 10:50:48 9/03/2001 Now I am really sick. Cable access? Hey Twitch do think the cable access company would have a copy of that interview we could buy? I am talking about the actual video. I bet a few police departmarts and a couple of lawyers would love to see it. Can't they just SHUT UP??? Tricia ] 22. "TBN!!" Posted by watchin' on 11:03:14 9/03/2001 OMG! I believe the next step for MzP is the "Trinity Broadcasting Network" Ring any bells? Let's see.. Mr. T, Mc Hammer (now a self-proclaimed preacher), has-been country singers, fallen football stars and a host of other s who have taken to bilking the elderly out of their money in exchange for "health and wealth" are among those promoted on this network. MzP and Jan!! what a hoot! Jan loves pink and black! She has more money than taset with all that guilding on the programming sets. WOW! Patsey should feel right at home! 21. "lurker" Posted by v_p on 11:02:27 9/03/2001 No kidding. Or Celebrate Our Fifth Year of Getting by with Murder!!!!!!!! Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!! P.S. Christmas is a special time for people who want to off their children. The police department works with a skeleton crew!!! Be sure to invite all your friends to share in the event!!!! Love, Patsy Ramsey & Co-conspirator 23. "Cards" Posted by watchin' on 11:08:13 9/03/2001 ]I say keep those cards comming. Make all JonBonet's drawings public. A forensic psychiatrist will have a field day analyzing those sad expressions of ]]] self. More insight into what the parents put her through in her short life. 24. "Hi Twitch" Posted by Tricia on 11:30:36 9/03/2001 Great Find. I did a google search and only came up with Public access for Atlanta and Roswell. Do you have a phone number for the station? Remember it is a very real possiblity that I am clueless when using any search engines:) Thanks Twitch. Watchin' I would love to see some of those Christmas cards too. Unbelievable. Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 27. "Twitch, Lurker, v_p" Posted by austingirl on 12:06:56 9/03/2001 Twitch, great find - how far the mighty have fallen from the days of commanding a CNN nationwide performance - now they go head to head with Wayne's World, LOL. Lurker, v_p, great card ideas. Incisive, but so awfully true. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 25. "Yup" Posted by 1000Sparks on 11:56:58 9/03/2001 and most murderers and people on death row seem to "find" God and start a preaching about him and themselves...... Patsy, you are good for it! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 26. "PTL!" Posted by RiverRat on 12:03:30 9/03/2001 Is Tammy Faye in the building?! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 28. "I called the station..." Posted by Twitch on 13:03:51 9/03/2001 Most of the staff is off today and the man I spoke to said they would rerun the show but he wasn't sure when. He said to check at 8:00 tonight and see if its on, if not call tomorrow when staff is back. I will get the vcr running. Dun, is it legal to post a transcript from the show if the Ramseys own it? The gentleman said they could not provide video tapes for that particular show as the Ramseys own all rights to it. Hmmmm... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 29. "If they "own" all rights," Posted by v_p on 13:06:36 9/03/2001 would that mean they paid for the air time? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 30. "Ramsey's own it" Posted by starry on 14:17:36 9/03/2001 More of their stipulations? They make me sick!!!!!!!! There will be Justice for JonBenét!!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 31. "From Barbara Walters.." Posted by Show Me on 14:56:09 9/03/2001 to national newspapers to radio talkshows to the National Enquirer tabloid to paying a CABLE ACCESS channel... hahahahahahaha Is there anything left? Is it just me or does it seem like the Ramseys are dumbing down? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN< /a> ] 32. "LOL Lurker!" Posted by Thor on 15:04:11 9/03/2001 ]Those were great ideas! So true. These turds decide to go on CNN, all their interviews last year, write a book, and now this cable access crapola. Whythe hell aren't they at the BPD spilling their guts? I have had it. 33. "ShowMe" Posted by watchin' on 15:34:45 9/03/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:34:45, 9/03/2001 >>"Is there anything left?"<< There's always late night talk radio! Sounds like she would fit in well with Art Bell and his paranormal bull. If MzP needs to be "seen" she can host a southen BBQ and promote her book while passing out shamrock cookies on napkins bearing JonBenet's photo. Edited to add: My money is still on a "TBN" appearance. I will check for ratings month. [ 34. "Of course there's" Posted by Watching you on 15:46:38 9/03/2001 something left. They can still stand on street corners passing out leaflets about how mistreated they've been. How about the Jerry Springer show? Jerry likes freaks - the freakier the better, actually. 35. "Oh WY!... I feel so " Posted by Show Me on 17:32:11 9/03/2001 dumb... I forgot Jerry Springer [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Gee, what happened here?" Posted by A.K. on 18:41:31 9/05/2001 I know I commented on this thread and my post isn't here. Surely I can't be the one whose post was deleted? I don't think I've ever said anything unPC in my life! In any case, Twitch, has anything happened on this? Were you able to get a transcript or talk to the host of the show? I would be...most interested...in hearing what you've found, if you can tell me quickly enough. For more info or your comments, write me at princessdie_@hotmail.com. Thanks!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "While I was trying to edit one specific post..." Posted by Dunvegan on 19:55:25 9/05/2001 ...last night, exhausted, and with multiple windows open, the software crashed. I spent another frustrated and more exhausted hour trying to extract/recover/find the entire thread, that dissapeared. I FTP's and viewed dozens of files on the hosting computer...nothing. I got tired. Ask me about looking troubleshooting up in the documentation for help: I don't have any. Chris gave me the passwords to the forum and information on the hosting company on 2 5 x 7 inch cards. Aboit 70 words total. IP address. Password. Hosting company and contact number. That's all I have for troubleshooting, other than my knowledge of UNIX and Apache forums. This is NOT an Apache forum. I did not get a "user's guide" to DC Board. The DC Board site (I posted the URL last night) offers none, but will (for an hourly fee) provide technical support for the person who can prove they paid for the board. I cannot even provide the credit card number that bought their software. that is Chris' personal credit card...none of my business. A.K....what you see here is what I could rescue from my Netscape cache. If you have your original post, or indeed the entire thread, then please post it. As a matter of fact, why don't you call me...I'm still too exhausted to type in long answers to techical questions today...any one else who want's to call, is also encoucouraged: Home Office: 415-567-7172. Call collect. I'm not feeling well. Please don't insist I explain UNIX and Windows and forum software crashes to you in detail by typing an user's guide...I'm working on another post as an open letter to the forum, I'd like to spend my time doint that. Juts call me, collect, and I'll accept the charges and talk to you. I've worked with DOD, DISA, banking, and the US Federal Reserve as clients that speak in less paranoid terms than many posters on this board. I'm right here. Now. Call me. You think you can instantly recover that lost thread, I'll pay you a consulting fee, A.K. Again, I've nothing at all against you or any other poster, on a personality basis. I'm doing my best to arbitrate and make decisions that are first in the interests of the fourm itself, and all members of this forum. 415-567-7172. Operators are standing (actually, sitting) by. Bring your complaints directly to the source, A.K. For free. I'm waiting.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "No no no no!!!" Posted by A.K. on 01:57:33 9/06/2001 Not a complaint, Dunvegan!! Please don't let me add to your stress. I was just really puzzled -- I didn't think I was the reason for the deletion, and you've explained well what happened. Absolutely not a problem!!!!! I don't have the thread or my post (Grace? You save everything of mine, don'tcha? LOL, sorry I couldn't resist). As I recall the only things I said were that the show was probably owned by whomever hosted it, that the phone # or email addy of that person is probably at the end of the show, and that that individual might be happy to let someone transcribe and post the content. There's also a chance that the show would be syndicated to other cable access markets. If a transcript exists or could be made, I, and I'm sure others, would like to see it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "A.K." Posted by Twitch on 04:57:53 9/06/2001 I contacted the station manager and was told that the Ramseys own all rights to the show. They cannot provide a tape or transcript for that reason. Unfortunately I began watching in the second hour and did not have a tape available to record on. The station manager says they will rerun the show but no time in the near future. This time I have the tape ready... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Twitch" Posted by A.K. on 00:14:26 9/07/2001 It as a two-hour long show? Jeez, that's odd. Might still be worth contacting the show host. Unless s/he is a close pal of the Ramseys, any public attention would be likely appreciated. Were there sample greeting cards shown? If so, can you elaborate? TQ! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE