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Internet Search Warrants Issued - Thread 2, Dunvegan, 06:26:22, 9/08/2001 Too early to tap dance, starry, 06:45:54, 9/08/2001, (#1) All of this makes my head hurt, Ellique, 07:19:04, 9/08/2001, (#2) I have an idea, Starry, Watching you, 07:53:43, 9/08/2001, (#3) Ellique, Jerrya, 07:53:44, 9/08/2001, (#4) WY, v_p, 08:02:29, 9/08/2001, (#6) Elle to put it simply, Show Me, 07:59:13, 9/08/2001, (#5) The "confession" , Sabrina, 08:10:54, 9/08/2001, (#7) thanks sabrina, purr, 12:43:28, 9/08/2001, (#23) WY, Tricia, 08:49:46, 9/08/2001, (#8) Could it be, Greenleaf, 10:07:20, 9/08/2001, (#9) hahaha, ahhh, Greenie, Watching you, 10:18:06, 9/08/2001, (#10) Hey Folks..., ibnora, 10:59:18, 9/08/2001, (#13) JAZZY CONFESSION ?????, coralie, 08:25:43, 9/09/2001, (#65) Jameson's hat has posted, Watching you, 10:53:16, 9/08/2001, (#12) WY, austingirl, 10:53:15, 9/08/2001, (#11) Well maybe that's why, Show Me, 11:09:21, 9/08/2001, (#14) I thought I was imagining, Florida, 11:39:08, 9/08/2001, (#17) tell me it isn't so, austingirl, 11:26:28, 9/08/2001, (#15) ibnora is right, shana, 11:33:36, 9/08/2001, (#16) do we believe jams?, austingirl, 11:47:08, 9/08/2001, (#18) CNN article on JonBenet, Jerrya, 12:23:21, 9/08/2001, (#19) Yep, Watching you, 12:32:43, 9/08/2001, (#20) WY, austingirl, 12:34:37, 9/08/2001, (#22) Starry, zapata, 00:56:00, 9/11/2001, (#71) i had to say..........told you so, purr, 12:34:06, 9/08/2001, (#21) Heck, I too posted after, Show Me, 12:45:30, 9/08/2001, (#24) AOL Privacy Policy, ibnora, 12:56:28, 9/08/2001, (#25) purr..., v_p, 13:11:46, 9/08/2001, (#26) v_p is right, purr, 16:00:47, 9/09/2001, (#70) Update, v_p, 15:32:44, 9/08/2001, (#27) And now folks,,,, Florida, 15:50:52, 9/08/2001, (#28) more info on jazzy, v_p, 16:26:17, 9/08/2001, (#29) v_p, austingirl, 16:43:58, 9/08/2001, (#30) It's interesting what, Watching you, 16:52:14, 9/08/2001, (#31) But, janov, 17:11:57, 9/08/2001, (#32) Watching You, Tricia, 17:29:41, 9/08/2001, (#33) tricia, v_p, 17:37:52, 9/08/2001, (#34) Tricia, austingirl, 17:54:35, 9/08/2001, (#36) Tricia ... I can't access CS, Show Me, 17:54:27, 9/08/2001, (#35) Show Meski, austingirl, 18:06:39, 9/08/2001, (#37) Austingirl, Show Me, 18:14:07, 9/08/2001, (#40) v_p and all, Tricia, 18:10:05, 9/08/2001, (#38) Janov, it's simple!, MrsBrady, 18:13:53, 9/08/2001, (#39) Hahaha... thanks Maw..., Show Me, 18:19:32, 9/08/2001, (#41) Maw...., LurkerXIV, 18:43:21, 9/08/2001, (#42) Maw and all, austingirl, 18:49:53, 9/08/2001, (#43) Internet Poster, doScubie, 19:44:41, 9/08/2001, (#44) They 'got' him..., ibnora, 19:53:12, 9/08/2001, (#45) I'm not seeing that post, v_p, 21:12:05, 9/08/2001, (#46) 36-39, v_p, 21:13:56, 9/08/2001, (#47) What's going on?, LurkerXIV, 21:25:48, 9/08/2001, (#48) Testing, Toadload, 23:04:03, 9/08/2001, (#50) So , Tricia, 22:52:16, 9/08/2001, (#49) #36, shana, 23:07:45, 9/08/2001, (#51) ToadLoad, Tricia, 23:13:56, 9/08/2001, (#53) #36 again, shana, 23:44:08, 9/08/2001, (#56) I agree shana, watchin', 23:13:22, 9/08/2001, (#52) More on Jazzy, v_p, 23:30:50, 9/08/2001, (#54) v_p, Tricia, 23:35:25, 9/08/2001, (#55) Hir as a MorF pronoun, shana, 23:48:11, 9/08/2001, (#57) Ok, Tricia, 23:57:49, 9/08/2001, (#58) AOL & jams, shana, 00:39:20, 9/09/2001, (#59) Now Who??, Mandarin, 01:13:06, 9/09/2001, (#60) Motive for Tip?, MrsBrady, 05:16:59, 9/09/2001, (#61) Welcome to Toadload, Watching you, 06:55:34, 9/09/2001, (#62) ????, Scully, 07:19:36, 9/09/2001, (#63) Scully..., LurkerXIV, 12:11:10, 9/09/2001, (#68) It's ironic, Sabrina, 07:38:38, 9/09/2001, (#64) Ms Brady, janov, 09:02:19, 9/09/2001, (#66) I just looked at the , Florida, 09:53:28, 9/09/2001, (#67) What it sounds like to me..., LurkerXIV, 12:16:43, 9/09/2001, (#69) Camera 8/11 on Internet Warrants , Bobby, 05:22:14, 9/11/2001, (#72) ................................................................... "Internet Search Warrants Issued - Thread 2" Posted by Dunvegan on 06:26:22 9/08/2001 Tricia is right about computer data recovery... ...even if hir were deleting files as they kicked in the door, there's little to no chance she effectively destroyed or deleted any information that cannot be recovered by professionals. I had to take certification from an extraordinary company staffed with highly-specialized and ex-spook/NSA/FBI/police gone geek, when I worked at Logictier last year. NTI only allows governmental agency employees, and police into this course, usually...but, because we were sponsoring the 2002 Olympic Games, had international and domestic terrorism concerns, and the Director of Security is an old friend of theirs from his NASDAQ days, they waived the law enforcement requirement so that I could take this course. I was so thrilled..I really wanted this class. It was under-the-hood, hand's on, and trained us no only to get the goods, but how to present them in court. The company in located in Gresham, Oregon and is called NTI, (http://www.forensice-intl.com) The following link describes pretty accurately what I had to learn to be capable of retrieving, and therfore, earning my diploma (the deplomas are hidden in encrypted fragments on erased flopy disks): http://www.forensics-intl.com/forensic.html If the authorities correctly seize computers (and all disks and other germane electronic jetsam, analyze correctly the AOL audit trail, and carefully trace the source and destination IPs , Syn/Ack, and tracerouting...and if they also handle those machines and log files (and all other data material) of Jamz judicially, the authorities will probably have themselves an incredible gold mine (or, at least long and winding a slime line) there. And, with the right tools, they even know exactly where you've been. Source and destination and hops of e-mail messages. Here's an excerpt from a CNN report on NTI...it's darned close to describing the program that I attended there. It's from an article called "Handling Crime in the 21st Century," by Deborah Radcliffe, and well outlines the workings of what NTI teaches: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9812/15/cybersleuth.idg/index.html ...on the third day, we apply our previous sessions to finding our diploma, which happens to be broken into pieces and buried deep in slack and unallocated space. "We had already learned how to use Norton's DiskEdit to view erased files; how to use NTI's Filter-I to cleanse binary information, allow us to examine plain text lurking in slack and unallocated space, and swap files; how to use TextSearch Plus to keyword search through the reams of data uncovered with Filter-I and IP-Filter; and how to use Norton's DiskEdit to piece the data together. "However, Anderson throws us a curve: He has encrypted the directory. Working from previous lessons, my partner, Lockheed's Best, and I found the bad guy's fileencryption cracker (hidden in a file called fun.exe) and loaded it. It did the trick. "Now it's time to see what we've got in the directory. A couple of files, including one deleted file (recognizable by the telltale Greek Sigma) look suspect to us, so we make a note of them. When we run Filter-I to view plaintext lingering on unallocated space, we see the word "diploma" on a few headers of what are obviously zipped files. We word search the rest of the file allocation table for the word "diploma." NTI was tough, but good. To get our diplomas, we were given an erased floppy, that had an overwritten message, fragmened on the disk, and encryption protected by passwords. We had to restore the floppy, and recreate and print the diploma file to get our certification. Recovered electronic records have lead to many conviction (even in murder cases.) The delete button doesn't do anything other than dissociate the files and their directory listings. And that's elementary easy to recover, because almost all the clues are in the first string of the "erased file". Erased files are (unless overwritten, and that's not impossible, just a harder recovery task) just sitting there, leaving open their sector space of overwrite, if needed. And, the NSA, can recover data, even if you take an industrial strength magnet to your hard drive. There's Netscape and other application caches full of information on where you've visited...windows "slack space" that holds unmarked data for a very long time and can be read with the training and the right tools most easily. Here are just a few of the places that, with the right tools, you can recover almost all data: 1.Windows swap files 2.MD5 algorithms for validating transaction and pinpointing exactly who did what and when. 3.Data hiding technique recovery 4....and lot's more on the NTI page if you take a peek. Information on your computer is (even the crashed or erased stuff) is still right there...you just have to know how to go in and get it. And, remember (to varying lengths of time) large hosting concerns keep backups of your files. Sometimes 3 years...sometime one year...sometimes weekly...sometimes never. My guess is that AOL probably holds backup files between one week and three months. And if you think the new Justice Watch rules are tough or unfair...go to AOL and type in the Keyword: TOS. (That stands for terms of service.) They talk a lot about "zero tolerance" and such...but, they boot members after much thought and negotiation. No "time-outs" ...just tossing. Even if the file is fragmented, the doc headers plus sector analysis give you enough hexadecimal and integration information to entirely reconstruct the original document. I bet Jamz wished she'd have asked John Ramsey's "Black Gentleman" to have taken her computers, back when she had the chance. This is an excellent article who took the course, and wrote for CNN Interactive: Deborah Radcliff. BTW, Lockheed uses NTI to cover their computer forensics and data recovery services now...starting in early of 1997. Interesting. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dunvegan ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Too early to tap dance" Posted by starry on 06:45:54 9/08/2001 But I'm glad that hir's files will be looked at. Wy, I read that she has a desktop and a laptop. Why wouldn't they confiscate both? Hir probably ran out to WalMart and bought another one........ After all, she is a crazy loonie who is obsessed on proving that hir beloved Scamsey's didn't do this...... Aside, the "so-called confession" isn't on MakeToast's message board now..... or at least I didn't see it... I'd forgotten all about the MakeToast board, but I see shortly after it was put up, I posted on it but when I clicked my message, a message from Laura comes up. Guess it's a glitch or mine was deleted. It didn't say anything except Good luck on your new board, or something to that effect..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "All of this makes my head hurt" Posted by Ellique on 07:19:04 9/08/2001 No message 'cause I don't understand enough to respond. Love, Ellique [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "I have an idea, Starry" Posted by Watching you on 07:53:43 9/08/2001 that they would have confiscated all computers in hir house. There is another thing - if AOL e-mail account is inactivated, how does that affect her internet service? Is it possible that was discontinued, also? I would stake one of my gargoyles' little bodies on it. Jameson is not posting at hir forum. That's not her - unless I've missed something in the last hour or so. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Ellique" Posted by Jerrya on 07:53:44 9/08/2001 No message 'cause I don't understand enough to respond. There may be something to what you're saying, eh? If you knew what would you say? Love from the seventy five year old young turk. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "WY" Posted by v_p on 08:02:29 9/08/2001 I'm pretty sure AOL cuts you off, PERIOD. As I said before, AOL keeps email and cat logs of their own which wouldn't even require having Jam's computer. I think. I doubt it's her over there posting. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Elle to put it simply" Posted by Show Me on 07:59:13 9/08/2001 Jams is in big trouble now. They are going to look into all she has ever written on the puters. Remember hir porn sites, slander, posting personal info, etc? The 'kid' poster claims to have been at the Ramsey home when JonBenet was murdered... this is going to be look at also... but the police do not believe this poster was really there. Just eliminating another suspect. We don't know who the 'kid' poster is. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "The "confession" " Posted by Sabrina on 08:10:54 9/08/2001 was posted on the Maketoast site's guest book,scroll down to August 7. http://www.maketoast.com/guestbook/guestbook.html Interestingly someone right above it posted from Jameson@loonybin.net [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "thanks sabrina" Posted by purr on 12:43:28 9/08/2001 i couldnt find the confession before. i found it this time. thanks for posting it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "WY" Posted by Tricia on 09:16:27 9/08/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:16:27, 9/08/2001 Yeah your right about Jammy. When I had a post deleted late last night I thought hir was back since no other posts had been deleted on that thread. Believe me there were some good ones too. Also "Jammy" starting posting hir AOL email in the bottom right hand corner like she always does. That wasn't on some of the posts I had seen earlier. That's why I thought she might be back. Ellique glad you are back. Here is the deal. Jammy gave another useless tip to the cops. Hir emailed this "14 year old" who claimed to have information about the case. Jammy sent this along to the cops, cops got a warrant to get her AOL account info including all her email to everyone she has emailed in the past. So now the cops can sort through hir private email to Smit, the Ramseys and others. In other words Ellique hir gig is up. Her AOL account shut down. She is toast at the moment. Tricia edited because Ell paid up and shows he is good for his word! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Could it be" Posted by Greenleaf on 10:07:20 9/08/2001 that Beckner, and/or the FBI just wanted an excuse to see the correspondence between Jams and the Rams? Imagine the "mother lode" of information betwix these two nefarious entities. Plus, jams' daily ramblings, with an assortment of contacts (anonymously and otherwise)with every web site, and character, even remotely connected to the Ram case. Hir threats, accusations and deliberate false reports could be classified as obstruction of justice. When the Feds finish wading through all this jam-mess, they will (imho) each have to undergo exorcisms. May God bless all law enforcement personnel who survive a jams interview. Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "hahaha, ahhh, Greenie" Posted by Watching you on 10:18:06 9/08/2001 I just fell off my chair LMAO. Boy, truer words have never been spoken - exorcism, indeed. Holy water, and the whole shebang. There's a whole lot more going on here then we know yet, I think. Jameson is definitely being investigated. Neener, neener, neener. Way to go, jams, you finally hung yourself. I knew you would. Wait until they get a load of her hard drive - I hope they took all the back up discs, too. I'll betcha Ruthie is having herself a huge chuckle up there in Heaven. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me any if.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Hey Folks..." Posted by ibnora on 10:59:18 9/08/2001 This has nothing to do with Jameson's hard drive. This has only to do with her AOL account, meaning the files kept by AOL including emails, instant messages, aliases, etc. Apparently AOL has given her a new, possibly temporary, account so she can continue to access the internet. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "JAZZY CONFESSION ?????" Posted by coralie on 08:25:43 9/09/2001 >This has nothing to do with Jameson's >hard drive. This has only to >do with her AOL account, meaning >the files kept by AOL including >emails, instant messages, aliases, etc. Apparently >AOL has given her a new, >possibly temporary, account so she can >continue to access the internet. yes she does say this actually ....on her sorry site.... I am still suspect as she could well have added this Jazzy person.....(Jameson??).....person to her aol as an added user and posted the mesage there herslf, then deleted the added user ....BUT AOL always keep these user added addresses for at least six months ....so they will find out who made that address ! Coralie Here is the url ... http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/08/jonbenet.ramsey.aol/index.html http://www.thedailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2001/08lrams2.html http://www.maketoast.com/guestbook/guestbook.html http://www.maketoast.com/guestbook/guestbook.html Ok. I visit this site all the time. This is very hard for me to say and I hope everyone can find somewhere in their hearts to forgive me. I never posted anything because I feel so guilty for what I've done.I was there when the whole thing occured. I never wanted any part in it, but they said if I didnt help I would be killed as well. I was only 14 when this took place, so I went along with the whole plan. I left no trace of anything and the police and F.B.I. are not aware that I was at the crime scene. The other person that performed in this horrible crime was an intruder and said if I mentioned his name anywhere, he would make it so I would be his 2nd victim. I can tell you this. He worked as a handy-man in the Ramsey home and had a key. I just wanted you all to know so you all know that the parents had nothing to do with it. To everyone out there still concerned......I'm sorry. And thats all I can say. Nothing else with help. Jonbenet,parents,friends,family. I'm sorry .....happy 11th b-day JonBenet. no named... cincy, USA - Tuesday, August 07, 2001 at 20:05:07 (PDT) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL coralie ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Jameson's hat has posted" Posted by Watching you on 10:53:16 9/08/2001 a few facts. The hat claims no one has spoken to her about "this," no one has been to her house, no one has looked at or taken her computers. The hat further states that in order to get AOL to release the identify of the confessor, jazzy, they had to use the IM's that went between that poster and her. No big deal. She is in no trouble. She is not concerned about what the authorities may or may not find in her files, she justs wants them to return the account soon. She compares the BORG to a Boyles show and threatens to put the Pubic back on protected for a while if Miss Information continues to spam. Now, this sounds more like the jammysue we've all come to know. What the truth is, who knows? You sure can't expect the truth from her. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "WY" Posted by austingirl on 10:53:15 9/08/2001 I don't think hir is back either. Hir may well be dictating messages, but I think hir may well have finally been nailed for obstructing justice. Wouldn't it be glorious if JfJBR comes out of all this? If all hir computers were seized there is such a multitude of sleaze and ooze to go through that I don't envy anyone the job. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Well maybe that's why" Posted by Show Me on 11:09:21 9/08/2001 I never got an answer to what was 90 percent wrong in hir Globe article... perhaps she suspected something was up and should shut up. After all Jams said to correct the article (90 percent wrong) would put an innocent person in jeopardy. However if the article had been 100 percent correct, this same person wouldn't be in any jeopardy at all. Now I have my answer to 90 percent wrong. hehehe [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "I thought I was imagining" Posted by Florida on 11:39:08 9/08/2001 all this when I read these stories this morning. This is from the Washington Post story: "The other person that performed in this horrible crime was an intruder and said if I mentioned his name anywhere, he would make it so I would be his 2nd victim . . . He worked as a handy-man in the Ramsey home and had a key. I just wanted you all to know so you all know that the parents had nothing to do with it. To everyone out there still concerned . . . I'm sorry." According to the affidavit, Boulder police also reviewed online conversations between "B n Jazzy4ever45" and users with the screen names "Jameson245" and "Jamesonposter." The e-mail to Beckner that alerted police to the Web site was sent by "Jameson245." In those online conversations, the affidavit says, "B n Jazzy4ever45" wrote that he can detail the girl's injuries and that he was forced by the killer to use his computer to print directions to the Ramsey home. The murderer was a "handyman who had a key to the house" but was "forced by the killer to use his computer to print directions to the Ramsey home."?? I would give anthing to see what was in those emails between jams and this kid - what could make the BPD waste the time to look into this?? This makes no sense so it's obvious that something else is in the works. Question is, what is it?? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "tell me it isn't so" Posted by austingirl on 11:26:28 9/08/2001 They didn't take hir computers? Why not? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "ibnora is right" Posted by shana on 11:33:36 9/08/2001 Thank you :-) I think AOL put a block on jameson's account so no new activity would occur while the authorities reviewed her communications with the person who wrote the confession. It is he they are investigating. As soon as their work is finished, AOL will restore jameson's access. As I recall, AOL retains read mail on its servers for about a month - unless the user marks mail as 'new' and then it can last indefinitely. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "do we believe jams?" Posted by austingirl on 11:47:08 9/08/2001 Isn't it mighty coincidental that hir was AWOL while this whole thing was going down? I think I'll take a great big old grain of salt with hir explanations and disclaimers. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "CNN article on JonBenet" Posted by Jerrya on 12:23:21 9/08/2001 http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/08/jonbenet.ramsey.aol/index.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Yep" Posted by Watching you on 12:32:43 9/08/2001 it appears I may have jumped the gun a little, so sue my cute little ass. I got so excited, I pictured the jamster in an orange jumpsuit, dang me. Oh well, too bad we all can't be perfect. They don't have her computers, yet. Stay tuned. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "WY" Posted by austingirl on 12:34:37 9/08/2001 I'm not sure what to believe. Do you have your grain of salt nearby when reading jams? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "Starry" Posted by zapata on 00:56:00 9/11/2001 I think there are a few other things Jams has to worry about. I am sure she has kept things on floppy disk. Think about the Foster deal, the porn search to find a child that looked like the housekeeper's daughter, her turning the family in for child pronography. Deliberately destroying that young girls life. The "Patricia emails", the "Afriend emails", even though they went through AXD@ the annoynomus server, and the Ramsey@nym.alias.net. They had to originate on the writer's computer. I bet someone is not getting a lot of sleep lately. I know Jameson has 3-computers, and maybe 4. She has the one that she purchased to run her forum on, she has another desk top, she has a laptop, and I remember her posting that her husband was setting there posting right next to her. I feel sure their son has a computer. I just wonder if she will try to trade computers with the one her husband probably uses at work, and get rid of the rest of them. If she does I think she will be in deeper trouble. You cannot destroy evidence after you know that the authorities are investigating you. Any time the fed's enter an investigation, they mean business. I feel Jameson is being investigated for obstruction of justice. I don't know for sure, just guessing. Lord knows she has done that many times. Jameson is the one that sent the BPD on the wild goose chase to the Carolina's to investigate the guy in prison. Think back on all the wild goose chases she has sent the authorities on. Look what she did to Professor Foster. That is tampering with a GJ witness, tampering with a GJ, and it's outcome. Think of the email she and Smit have exchanged, and we know with reason they have. She may have just "beheaded" Smit also. Way to go Jameson. We will finally know who was using that computer when she first came on line. Remember in the outting chat that she swore that she was not the first to use the computer, that the first week she was online that she did not give out her email addy because she did not know what it was. Also remember that Jameson has two providers. I think the name of the other provider is Abts.net or .com, and one of her relatives works for that provider. If anyone know's the correct email provider Jameson uses besides AOL will they please correct me. I beleive God is tired of sinful things being done in his name. Like the way the Ramsey's are using JonBenet now to make money, all in the name of our saviour. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "i had to say..........told you so" Posted by purr on 12:34:06 9/08/2001 told you so (on thread #1) .........the files are never really deleted, but of course.....dun......has a way with her techno words. thanks for 'splain' it all dun! i hope they catch her at something. (see my post #88 on thread #1.....i goofed and posted there first.) she is lying about her aol account too! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Heck, I too posted after" Posted by Show Me on 12:45:30 9/08/2001 Purr on first thread. But thanks Purr for the AOL info. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "AOL Privacy Policy" Posted by ibnora on 12:56:28 9/08/2001 Item Number 1 (1) We do not read your private online communications. AOL honors the confidentiality of its members' private communications in private chat rooms, e-mail (including downloads), and Instant Message(TM) conversations, as well as any profile data you may create, such as a stock portfolio. AOL does not read or disclose private communications except to comply with valid legal process such as a search warrant, subpoena or court order, to protect the company's rights and property, or during emergencies when we believe physical safety is at risk. Of course, what you write or post in public or member chat rooms and message boards is available not only to AOL, but to all members. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "purr..." Posted by v_p on 13:11:46 9/08/2001 49. "Tricia" Posted by v_p on 22:58:43 9/07/2001 I think AOL keeps logs of all the emails, chats, etc., so they don't need her stinking computer... which is probably really icky and crusty by now. ~*~*~*~*~*~* neeeener, neeener, if you wouldn't post out of order all the time you'd have seen I posted that information first.... but then no one listens to me anyway. :o( [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "v_p is right" Posted by purr on 16:00:47 9/09/2001 she was first in line.........and got the scoop! way to go v_p! oh well, i dont even know what i had to write a "told you so" message.......sorry to all. one of those days...... and yep, v_p, i tend to post out of line.....its a bad habit....ill try not to in the future. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Update" Posted by v_p on 15:32:44 9/08/2001 http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/08/jonbenet.ramsey.aol/index.html They're not saying a name... which means there's still hope :o) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. " And now folks,,," Posted by Florida on 15:50:52 9/08/2001 Petersen would not reveal anything about the person. "If it ends up nothing, we'll probably put a statement out," she said. "If it's the answer to this puzzle, then we will not be talking about it publicly at all. But I don't think the hopes are high, so I'll probably be getting back to you." Tap, tap, tap... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "more info on jazzy" Posted by v_p on 16:26:17 9/08/2001 http://64.225.95.82/dcf/Public/48.html#1 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "v_p" Posted by austingirl on 16:43:58 9/08/2001 Interesting find, v_p. I vaguely remember them discussing this when it happened, but I only ever stop by the public forum for very brief visits, is that where this was? I'd never heard of Maketoast at the time. Thank you for posting this. Do you think we'll ever get the real story of what the "authorities" took from jams? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "It's interesting what" Posted by Watching you on 16:52:14 9/08/2001 the authorities can find out about you this way. I wonder how that works with something like harassment or stalking over the internet. Someone could be in a world of hurt, yes? I think it is probably as jameson says - she saw a hot one and turned it into BPD. It's just as well this person was found - it's not funny to make up stories like this one. I had real dreams there for a while, though. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "But" Posted by janov on 17:11:57 9/08/2001 ....Jameson did say,unless this person knows something only the killer knows, he would likely not be investigated by the BPD. According to what I have read today,the investigation took place over a week ago,why the announcement today? sissi/janov [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Watching You" Posted by Tricia on 17:31:52 9/08/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:31:52, 9/08/2001 Don't lose hope yet. I still hold out the BPD could find some interesting things in Jammy's email. What I want to know is can the BPD look at all her email and read it? Or is the warrant more specific and the BPD can only read certain emails? Sorry if I sound clueless. You see I am clueless, but you all are so nice to me I keep coming back:) Thanks Tricia Forgot my PS. Is anyone else having trouble getting into C.S.? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "tricia" Posted by v_p on 17:37:52 9/08/2001 I don't know... we are both clueless.. friend yet? I've got to go out, please have all the answers when I get back. thank you btw, where's sparky? She always has the answers... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Tricia" Posted by austingirl on 17:54:35 9/08/2001 I can't get into CS either. I get an error message but the screen indicates that other users are browsing there - the nerve! I do wish we had the facts about what the search warrants covered. But, if nefarious deeds are uncovered, one would think that gives them probable cause to dig deeper into the slimy jams. This could take a while to play out. The thing is - you tend to lose patience when you've been waiting for justice for almost five years! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Tricia ... I can't access CS" Posted by Show Me on 17:54:27 9/08/2001 either. Now I can't get to LP forum. Anyone have a clue? I know the forums are alike ... however all I know about pc's is what button to push. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Show Meski" Posted by austingirl on 18:06:39 9/08/2001 I posted just after you about not being able to get into CS either. I was in LPN just a bit ago, but just tried and I can't get in there either. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Austingirl" Posted by Show Me on 18:14:07 9/08/2001 glad I'm not the only one. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "v_p and all" Posted by Tricia on 18:10:05 9/08/2001 Glad to see it's not just me that can't get into CS. Hey if I have to suffer you do too darn it:) v_p no friend. gggrrrrrr. So anyone know if the BPD can read ALL of Jammy's email or the mail concerning this so called 14 year old. Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Janov, it's simple!" Posted by MrsBrady on 18:13:53 9/08/2001 --"According to what I have read today,the investigation took place over a week ago,why the announcement today?"-- Because Team Ramsey realized that they had botched the Steve Thomas set up (see contempt of court) and KNEW it was going to be heard on Friday Sept. 7th...and, hence, the need for another Red Herring to divert the public's (and media's) attention from the Thomsas exoneration.... That's why...Anyone who thinks the Team Ramsey P.R./Spin team is dead has their head in the sand. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Hahaha... thanks Maw..." Posted by Show Me on 18:19:32 9/08/2001 You are correct as always! Things are really starting to heat up. Oh Mr. Beckner... what have you up your sleeve? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Maw...." Posted by LurkerXIV on 18:43:21 9/08/2001 ....maybe jameson is being set up by the Rams over the LHP suit. Things are not looking good for them and LimpWoody right now. Maybe they can prove mitigation in their culpability for libeling Linda Hoffman Pugh by claiming that the Code Six Wingnut deceived them, just as she deceived Don Foster, renowned literary text analyst. It's the bit about the handyman with a key. That deliberately points to Melvin Pugh. There were reams of threads at the swamp about how it could've been Melvin acting in conjunction with a teenage boyfriend of Linda's older daughter. Rams say the Wingnut had "compelling evidence" of this that caused them to slander and libel all the Hoffman-Pughs in DOI. Woody says "But your Honor, there are mitigating circumstances. My poor grieving clients were taken in by a deceitful internet nut. Otherwise, they would never have put all that vicious stuff about the housekeeper and her family in their book". Whaddaya think? Would a judge and jury buy it? I think jameson has well-deserved bus tracks running across her fat rump! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "Maw and all" Posted by austingirl on 18:49:53 9/08/2001 I am deeply impressed by the connections being made here. The plot, as they say, thickens.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Internet Poster" Posted by doScubie on 19:44:41 9/08/2001 The Ramseys just can't let Steve Thomas have his minute of glory, can they?? They are so jealous and media hungry that they not only put those sickening ads, worded by mommy dearest herself, but they also go the complete other direction and provoke someone (or maybe they did it themselves) to confess to something that didn't happen. No one came into their house that night, no one! Hey rams, we don't believe you - you have lied from day one, and this ain't gonna work either. Stop pointing fingers and trying to hang innocent people and grow up and confess. Puhleeeze! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "They 'got' him..." Posted by ibnora on 19:53:12 9/08/2001 Boulder Cops Reviewing AOL Records By Jennifer Hamilton Associated Press Writer Saturday, Sept. 8, 2001; 7:10 p.m. EDT DENVER -- America Online has given police the name of a user who allegedly claimed in a Web site posting to have witnessed JonBenet Ramsey's murder, authorities said Saturday. Police said they know the subscriber's name and place of residency, but would not release further details. They are reviewing the subscriber's records, screen names, e-mail files, buddy lists and aliases, Boulder Police spokeswoman Jana Peterson said. Blah, blah, blah. ALSO: 36 . "Suspect Arrested" Posted by jameson on Sep-08-01 at 08:20 PM (EST) A suspect has been picked up for making a false internet confession in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case. He is a freshman at Antioch College. More to follow. http://64.225.95.82/dcf/Public/379.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "I'm not seeing that post" Posted by v_p on 21:12:05 9/08/2001 I'll look again to double-check. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "36-39" Posted by v_p on 21:13:56 9/08/2001 Have been deleted. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "What's going on?" Posted by LurkerXIV on 21:25:48 9/08/2001 More disinformation from jameson? I don't think that she is really posting there at all. Maybe her daughter has been given "deletion duty". I think the real jameson is laying low. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "Testing" Posted by Toadload on 23:04:03 9/08/2001 Just testing my new account, with the thought that yes, jameson is total kook. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "So " Posted by Tricia on 22:52:16 9/08/2001 Jammy deleted the post about the suspect being arrested or did I miss it. This is too strange. Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "#36" Posted by shana on 23:07:45 9/08/2001 was not from jameson. It was deleted accordingly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "ToadLoad" Posted by Tricia on 23:13:56 9/08/2001 Glad to see you:) Shana I am confused. Somebody claiming to be Jameson posted a bogus claim about an arrest? Oookaaaaayy Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "#36 again" Posted by shana on 23:44:08 9/08/2001 >Shana I am confused. Somebody claiming to >be Jameson posted a bogus claim >about an arrest? >Oookaaaaayy >Tricia Altho the Subject said "arrested", the post said someone had been picked-up (a freshman at Antioch College) for making a false confession on the net. This msg was on the public forum and yes, apparently someone posted using the jameson hat. Not a new thing. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "I agree shana" Posted by watchin' on 23:13:22 9/08/2001 and willl go further to say jameson is NOT posting at all there. Wonder where she might be? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "More on Jazzy" Posted by v_p on 23:30:50 9/08/2001 http://64.225.95.82/dcf/Public/92.html#1 I find hir use of the (non)word, "hir" interesting... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "v_p" Posted by Tricia on 23:35:25 9/08/2001 That's really weird. I can't even begin to speculate why she would use "hir" over and over when describing this "confession" she received. Thoughts anyone? Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "Hir as a MorF pronoun" Posted by shana on 23:48:11 9/08/2001 >That's really weird. I can't even begin >to speculate why she would use >"hir" over and over when >describing this "confession" she received. >Thoughts anyone? >Tricia Me again. Apparently jameson originally thought the poster Jazzy was a female, but recent news stories have suggested the opposite. In fact, some of the news sources reported that the person was a female while others used the masculine pronoun. Who knows. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Ok" Posted by Tricia on 23:57:49 9/08/2001 Now it's even weirder. A poster(Alexis)posted the following about the bogus Jameson post at the swamp "No, it wasn't jameson. In fact, I don't know who is impersonating jameson - she no longer has a connection. If she's gotten a new one, she would have told her posters, I'm sure." So I guess Alexis is saying all the other "Jameson" posts must be bogus because Jameson has lost hir internet connection. Ok I'm going to bed Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "AOL & jams" Posted by shana on 00:39:20 9/09/2001 >So I guess Alexis is saying all >the other "Jameson" posts must be >bogus because Jameson has lost hir >internet connection. I think jameson was given a temp acct, like ibnora said this morning (Saturday). Not all of the posts from 'jameson' are bogus. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Now Who??" Posted by Mandarin on 01:13:06 9/09/2001 Why would a poster need to make up a fictitious story in SUPPORT OF the Rams? Everyone obviously knows which side of the fence Jams is on. The only people I can think of that would send in a post like that would be someone like Jams, the Rams or their family or the Stines. I could see someone posting on her site anonymously, if they were giving a detailed account of being there when the Rams did their deed. But why the covert posting to a forum that is widely known as the ultimate ProRama forum?? I don't get it. What MaBrady says regarding the motive strikes me as credible and the who to me would be Jams, the Rams or one of their minions. They were probably all in on it. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "Motive for Tip?" Posted by MrsBrady on 05:16:59 9/09/2001 "the motive strikes me as credible and the who to me would be Jams, the Rams or one of their minions." Right Mandarin, all it would take is an anonymous phone call to the Washington Post saying to check Loudon County Va. supoenas for an AOL search warrant... Why break news on a SATURDAY? People aren't watching/reading like they do on a weekday. The only possible reason is that it was to deflect from the Thomas exoneration and the FACT that the process server admitted he lied and the private detective looks dirty too... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "Welcome to Toadload" Posted by Watching you on 06:55:34 9/09/2001 I've been reading Toadload for quite a while at ACR and believe s/he is an excellent source of what is happening in Boulder. In fact, WY might have hooked some info from Toadload about the ST hearing and reported it here. Glad you're here, Toadload. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "????" Posted by Scully on 07:19:36 9/09/2001 I can't understand why such a lame post would inspire the FBI to get involved. Think of the millions of bizarre posts you've read over the years and then compare it to the post in question. Yawn... Sheesh...my 12 year old daughter could write something more sinister. I guess we should be counting our blessings that this is the only post in the past 4-5 years that authorities felt warranted a full investigation. For the record, I don't have AOL....but I hear that....LURKER XIV does!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "Scully..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:11:10 9/09/2001 :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "It's ironic" Posted by Sabrina on 07:38:38 9/09/2001 that hir stated in August that this was an obvious fraud and hoax but yet hir notifes Beckner anyway. And Beckner investigates it as well as taking the DNA from the wingnut. It looks to me that he is proving they did look at all other possibilities, even the rediculous! BTW, hir has another connection other than AOL. One cannot delete that fast when on AOL,even with a fast modem. Hir is just playing games as usual because hir lavishs in the attention she is getting. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "Ms Brady" Posted by janov on 09:02:19 9/09/2001 I respect all of the hard work you have done over the years to keep the case in the forefront and allowing us daily real news at a click of the mouse. But,I do disagree with your take on a connection between "confessor news and Steve Thomas' triumph". Jameson did not believe the confession was anything more than a hoax,she turned it over in an obligatory fashion,as it couldn't be ingnored. I don't know who tipped the media to this,but am doubtful that it was a Ramsey PR firm. It would be interesting to find out this information ,but until we do,can we really assume anything so sinister? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "I just looked at the " Posted by Florida on 09:53:28 9/09/2001 thread from Jameson's public forum that V_P posted on her post #29. This leads to the user profile of Jazzy on AOL: 12 . "thats interesting" Posted by Summer on Aug-08-01 at 08:03 PM (EST) I checked his/her profile on aol. this is what it says Screen name:B n Jazzy4ever45 Member Name: Grippo Location: pickle rock Marital Status: single :-P Hobbies: hey to all my peeps, jessica, brittany,becky,scott,amanda ,beau,andrew,adam,danielle L, jason, bj, candy,brian, jamie,,jimmy,eric,alisha,ky le and seth...if i forgot u, o well.i still love you !! Computers: I dont have a computer. The profile you are reading is all a figment of your imagination.... Occupation: ummmmmmmmm, Personal Quote: The worst thing in life is to see the 1 you love, love some1 else; life sux, then you die;no1 is a virgin, life screws us all; practice makes perfect, but nobodys perfect..so why practice?;peace on earth,peace on land, death to the ho that takes my mann This sure sounds like a very young, semi-literate, 14 year old girl to me - not a male student at Antioch. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]