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Clearing up Propaganda, zapata, 16:17:10, 9/20/2001 Hello, maketoast, 16:48:42, 9/20/2001, (#1) maketoast, zapata, 17:47:35, 9/20/2001, (#2) Zapata, Nedthan Johns, 17:54:01, 9/20/2001, (#3) Bedpan John..., LurkerXIV, 18:03:38, 9/20/2001, (#4) No, your paranoid, Ruby, 18:14:37, 9/20/2001, (#5) Jameson:, Jeanilou, 19:11:03, 9/20/2001, (#6) AMEN!!!, zapata, 16:08:54, 9/21/2001, (#38) Bravo, Watching you, 19:52:11, 9/20/2001, (#7) Lurker XIV, Jerrya, 20:56:51, 9/20/2001, (#10) Jerrya, zapata, 17:55:54, 9/21/2001, (#52) Jerrya, LurkerXIV, 10:40:39, 9/21/2001, (#25) The paths of glory..., Greenleaf, 20:45:41, 9/20/2001, (#9) Starry, zapata, 16:17:21, 9/21/2001, (#40) I second you WY, purr, 20:39:36, 9/20/2001, (#8) Me three Jeanilou, Thor, 21:15:29, 9/20/2001, (#11) Just trying, zapata, 16:10:23, 9/21/2001, (#39) hello zapata, maketoast, 23:44:22, 9/20/2001, (#12) Maketoast...are you of the www.maketoast.com site?, Dunvegan, 00:04:12, 9/21/2001, (#13) Dunvegan, maketoast, 00:13:19, 9/21/2001, (#14) Welcome Maketoast!, MrsBrady, 06:09:27, 9/21/2001, (#15) MrsBrady, maketoast, 12:47:57, 9/21/2001, (#26) maketoast?, pinker, 07:16:47, 9/21/2001, (#16) pinker, maketoast, 12:57:35, 9/21/2001, (#27) Wait a minute!, zapata, 16:30:44, 9/21/2001, (#42) 5. Is that SOP?, Watching you, 07:21:28, 9/21/2001, (#17) Is this the same site?, RiverRat, 07:30:18, 9/21/2001, (#18) RiverRat, maketoast, 13:05:42, 9/21/2001, (#28) jams vs. the might of truth..., Greenleaf, 07:57:37, 9/21/2001, (#19) Greenie, zapata, 16:34:39, 9/21/2001, (#43) pinker, fly, 08:05:30, 9/21/2001, (#20) I for one, DuBois, 09:25:55, 9/21/2001, (#22) Maketoast, Jerrya, 09:11:33, 9/21/2001, (#21) Jerrya, maketoast, 13:30:07, 9/21/2001, (#29) maketoast, zapata, 16:44:36, 9/21/2001, (#45) DuBois, Seeker, 09:40:14, 9/21/2001, (#23) DuBois, JR, 10:27:18, 9/21/2001, (#24) Maketoast and others:, Jeanilou, 14:02:57, 9/21/2001, (#30) Jeanilou and others..., LurkerXIV, 14:23:12, 9/21/2001, (#31) arrrrgh, Gemini, 14:55:32, 9/21/2001, (#33) Lurker IV, Jeanilou, 14:53:33, 9/21/2001, (#32) Lurker XiV and others:, maketoast, 15:07:10, 9/21/2001, (#34) I remember that, MrsBrady, 15:31:23, 9/21/2001, (#35) YEP!, Jellyjaws, 15:51:53, 9/21/2001, (#37) Agreed msB,, Gemini, 15:50:19, 9/21/2001, (#36) maketoast, zapata, 16:26:12, 9/21/2001, (#41) Lighten up Z, Seeker, 16:38:27, 9/21/2001, (#44) Seeker, zapata, 17:13:11, 9/21/2001, (#48) I'm welcoming maketoast to Justice Watch..., Dunvegan, 17:09:22, 9/21/2001, (#47) hiya dunvegan, here goes, maketoast, 17:40:46, 9/21/2001, (#51) Yesterday, zapata, 17:01:54, 9/21/2001, (#46) re: zapata, maketoast, 17:14:13, 9/21/2001, (#49) maketoast, zapata, 17:31:04, 9/21/2001, (#50) i have an orange nintendo zapper, maketoast, 00:25:25, 9/22/2001, (#57) i sent an email to maketoast, purr, 19:13:33, 9/21/2001, (#53) purr, kitty, maketoast, 00:19:33, 9/22/2001, (#56) maketoast, zapata, 14:24:09, 9/25/2001, (#109) orange nintendo zapper - duck hunt / super mario b..., maketoast, 14:29:27, 9/25/2001, (#110) Isn't, zapata, 15:18:36, 9/25/2001, (#114) purr..., LurkerXIV, 19:24:44, 9/21/2001, (#54) hey lurker, maketoast, 00:05:44, 9/22/2001, (#55) Hi, Tricia, 00:43:27, 9/22/2001, (#58) thanks tricia!, maketoast, 01:18:10, 9/22/2001, (#59) maketoast, zapata, 16:01:26, 9/25/2001, (#116) Hell in a handbasket, MrsBrady, 03:55:02, 9/22/2001, (#61) Ditto, Chris, 09:14:45, 9/22/2001, (#68) Hello MakeToast !, ACandyRose, 03:50:38, 9/22/2001, (#60) MrsBrady, Tricia, 08:28:34, 9/22/2001, (#63) Tricia,, LurkerXIV, 09:18:36, 9/22/2001, (#69) i made the same misspelling myself..........., purr, 11:20:19, 9/22/2001, (#85) Hi, maketoast,, LurkerXIV, 08:28:01, 9/22/2001, (#62) hey lurker, maketoast, 14:42:26, 9/25/2001, (#111) Hi maketoast.... I can imagine, Show Me, 08:41:46, 9/22/2001, (#64) Right, Tricia, 08:58:21, 9/22/2001, (#66) Tricia, RiverRat, 08:58:17, 9/22/2001, (#65) Tricia... , Show Me, 09:06:14, 9/22/2001, (#67) Mrs,Brady..., StCrispin, 09:28:37, 9/22/2001, (#70) chris..., StCrispin, 09:37:43, 9/22/2001, (#71) Excuse me?, RiverRat, 09:57:49, 9/22/2001, (#73) Whoever opened the , Florida, 09:49:52, 9/22/2001, (#72) St Crispin is right, v_p, 10:42:05, 9/22/2001, (#76) Hold On, Tricia, 10:20:49, 9/22/2001, (#74) Now What, Ally, 10:41:15, 9/22/2001, (#75) Newbies, welcomed? hahahahaha, v_p, 10:48:13, 9/22/2001, (#77) Golly, me too!, Mels, 12:51:02, 9/22/2001, (#95) C'est vrai, v-p!, LurkerXIV, 11:16:58, 9/22/2001, (#83) this forum is better than any soap opera i have ev..., purr, 11:14:09, 9/22/2001, (#82) purr..., LurkerXIV, 11:22:16, 9/22/2001, (#86) Gazhundeit!, Ally, 11:27:46, 9/22/2001, (#89) i hear you lurker........., purr, 11:26:31, 9/22/2001, (#88) But seriously folks, Ally, 11:11:32, 9/22/2001, (#80) how about this ally.....????, purr, 11:24:39, 9/22/2001, (#87) V_P, Jellyjaws, 10:59:10, 9/22/2001, (#78) Hi Jelly, v_p, 11:13:00, 9/22/2001, (#81) What is going on?, Show Me, 11:10:12, 9/22/2001, (#79) Well...I have no idea...???, Dunvegan, 11:32:31, 9/22/2001, (#91) Disgusted!, Jellyjaws, 11:20:08, 9/22/2001, (#84) Jelly, , LurkerXIV, 11:34:51, 9/22/2001, (#92) purr...., Ally, 11:30:18, 9/22/2001, (#90) haaaaaaaaaaaaa........i got it!, purr, 17:25:34, 9/22/2001, (#108) Dunvegan, Tricia, 11:35:53, 9/22/2001, (#93) Dunvegan, zapata, 15:08:52, 9/25/2001, (#113) Amen, Tricia!, LurkerXIV, 11:46:14, 9/22/2001, (#94) A point or two before I pack and leave for Mendoci..., Dunvegan, 13:37:06, 9/22/2001, (#99) Dun, zapata, 15:57:33, 9/25/2001, (#115) zapata, Pedro, 16:16:20, 9/25/2001, (#117) Dun, Watching you, 13:48:01, 9/22/2001, (#100) Hi MakeToast, Jayelles, 13:31:24, 9/22/2001, (#97) Welcome, Thor, 13:21:15, 9/22/2001, (#96) Dunvegan, Jayelles, 13:32:29, 9/22/2001, (#98) Absolutely, v_p, 13:58:21, 9/22/2001, (#102) Dunvegan, Jellyjaws, 13:57:14, 9/22/2001, (#101) Dun, JR, 14:18:03, 9/22/2001, (#104) Dunvegan, Real Stormy, 14:09:24, 9/22/2001, (#103) Hi Maketoast, Baybb, 15:00:44, 9/22/2001, (#106) Dun, Thor, 14:51:27, 9/22/2001, (#105) clarification, sask, 16:24:16, 9/22/2001, (#107) arvada, arvada, 15:08:16, 9/25/2001, (#112) I was shocked, Cassandra, 17:32:08, 9/26/2001, (#118) Starry! Who is one of the nicest,, Cassandra, 17:36:59, 9/26/2001, (#119) Cassie, v_p, 17:50:27, 9/26/2001, (#120) How about on the, Cassandra, 09:24:21, 9/27/2001, (#121) And on Monitored and Censorship, Cassandra, 10:14:51, 9/27/2001, (#122) Gee Cassandra, v_p, 16:51:58, 9/27/2001, (#123) ................................................................... "Clearing up Propaganda" Posted by zapata on 16:27:08 9/20/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:27:08, 9/20/2001 May I repost my post that the swamp witch carried to hir forum and reposted there, and reply to her reply? 17 . "Zapata's words.." Posted by jameson on Sep-19-01 at 03:19 PM (EST) Zapata posted: "It is my opinion that the poster known as Jameson245 has deliberately obstructed justice in this case by sending the BPD to investigate leads that she should have known and may have known were false. Think about all the time that BPD had to spend investigating the misinformation that this person has sent to them. They had to go to NC in the early days of this investigation and question a man in prison as to his where abouts on the night of December 25, 1996, they are presently doing dna on a pair of dirty underwear that did not go through the chain of custody, we only have Jameson's word that they belonged to some pervert. There were many more false leads that Jameson supplied through the years but I am so angry now I cannot remember them. It is my opinion that the subpeonea was issued because the BPD is tired of a bread-baking house wife interferring with the investigation into the murder of an innocent child. I believe that they are preparing a case of obstruction of justice against this person. Maybe, I believe that because I pray that is the case." Zapata - you have so much misinformation and hate here, I feel sorry for you.... toxic levels. I am considered a good source of credible information - - deal with it. I stand by my words - - not the lies others tell about me. Jameson, I do not have so much misinformation. None at all. I do have hate in my heart for someone that has no business butting into and interferring with the investigation into the brutal murder of an innocent child. I can have hate for the way you act, but still love your soul. It is very hard to do. I do not wish to go to hell for the way you make me feel, so I pray for your soul. My God is a patient and long suffering God. He has been waiting almost 5-years for the person who murdered JonBenet to come forward. They have made the choice not to do so. None of us is assured of tomorrow. The person who murdered JonBenet may not have the opportunity to confess. Their time may be short. I hope they know this. I would not want to spend eternity in hell. When we stand before God all things will be revealed. Jameson, I even pray for the soul's of John and Patsy. God would have all to be saved. We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God. He mourns over the injustice done to JonBenet, and he will make sure that justice is served, if not in this life, then the next one. Jameson, I know more about you than you will ever know. I disagree that you are a credible source of information. In my opinion you are a joke. Jameson, you do not want to mess with me. I could say so many more evil things to you, but what is the use? Ignorance is bliss, and you seem to be in total bliss. Jameson, don't feel sorry for me. I do not need your sypathy. You should concentrate on getting your life together, not day dream of being Patsy. It will never happen. When this case is over, and it will be over one day, it will be as though you never existed. Tell Irene I said hi. Jameson, you know everything I have posted is true. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Hello" Posted by maketoast on 16:48:42 9/20/2001 Hi, Excuse me for asking, but why does everyone in here seem to dislike Jameson? Just going through the threads, it looks like a lot of people here spend all of their time and energy attacking Jameson instead of really talking about the case. Just, please try to make me understand this a little better. Thanks! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "maketoast" Posted by zapata on 17:47:35 9/20/2001 I thought you were a better person than that. Now, I have to go see just who you are and how you are connected to Jameson. So, Professor Foster thought you were JAR at one time. I guess I know who you are. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Zapata" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 17:54:01 9/20/2001 You know you sound a little paranoid. Really what is it with this Jameson fixation by some JW'ers? I don't get it either. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Bedpan John..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 18:03:38 9/20/2001 ....let me explain it to you. Here at JW, we don't cotton to people who lie and obstruct justice while accepting gifts and gratuities from the prime suspects in the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, HER OWN PARENTS, John and Patsy Ramsey. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "No, your paranoid" Posted by Ruby on 18:14:37 9/20/2001 Take your fifty bucks and go to a forum that cares. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Jameson:" Posted by Jeanilou on 19:11:03 9/20/2001 "Excuse me for asking, but why does everyone in here seem to dislike Jameson? Just going through the threads, it looks like a lot of people here spend all of their time and energy attacking Jameson instead of really talking about the case. Just, please try to make me understand this a little better."...Maketoast Jameson has done a lot to things to hurt a lot of people who care about this case and JonBenét. She has stolen material from other forums, posted in her forum just to be able to hold that poster up to ridicule. She has taken an innocent girl, portrayed her as a participant in pornography along with the child Dad, knowing well it was NOT true. She allowed members in her forum to post information about harming children all in the name of JonBenét. Dixie talked about stun gunning child and Nedthan stuffed his child in a suitcase, just to prove the same could have been done to JB. She took an noted professional, Donald Foster and played games with him in order to try and discredit him so he could not be used as an expert in the JB case. She has taken another good man and smeared him in her forum just because he was the lead detective in the case and wrote a book about it opining that Patsy was the killer of JB. Yes, I am talking about Steve Thomas. She opened a forum and called it "public" and then proceeded to ban those who did not conform to her ideas about the case calling them "trolls" and ridiculing them, knowing they could not respond as they have been banned. She has butted in, claimed to have evidence, refused to turn it over until her terms were met, turned in a "confessor" while at the same time proclaiming it would turn out to be nothing. She has added expense and man hours to a case that already had enough to do. And for what? Not ONE single thing she has done has brought this case any closer to a solution. Indeed, she has hindered the case much more than she has ever helped this case. She has belittled, interfered, lied, tampered and meddled in a case just because it amuses her to do so. She claims to want justice for JB but if she truly did, she would turn over any supposed "evidence" without putting conditions on it. She would tell anyone having knowledge about this case to go right to the BPD, not to try and filter it through her. And surely she must realize that JB would NOT want any child harmed or even scared in an attempt to demonstrate what could have been done to her, JB. She has also maligned the sick, and bad mouthed those who have passed on. How sad that must make JonBenét who was so concerned about the thorns of roses. Even if Jameson truly believes the Ramseys are innocent, she could go about promoting her beliefs and theories without running ramshod over those she thinks is in her way. But she will never do that because she thinks she can do no wrong, can do no harm. She is full of herself, touting that she is "credible" when she is prob one of the MOST non-credible people on the Internet. She lies, twists and maims the truth and try to disguise with her on fairytales. Her website is a sham and mockery of JonBenét as Jameson is. She does not stand for truth or for innocence. Indeed her website is a pit of vipers and demons that can wreck havoc on those that dare oppose them and their beliefs. BUT there is good news. There are SO many people out there willing to share their experiences with Jameson in order to expose her for what she really is: a sick, sick person who worships the Ramseys as gods, and bows to their every wish. She talks of locking people up and putting them away when she is the biggest nutcase out there,as some on the Internet like to call her, a "code 6 wingnut". And indeed the title fits. You can do one of two things with Jameson. You can ignore her and hopes she goes away or you can combat her at every turn in order to make sure the truth prevails. She is NOT credible, her forum is NOT the forum of record and she is a meddlesome busybody whom no one wants or respects. Least of all me. Jeanilou, the Internet Sleuth Opinions are a dime a dozen and this is just one of mine! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "AMEN!!!" Posted by zapata on 16:08:54 9/21/2001 You said it all Jennilou. What a great post and a great job in showing the facts of what hir is all about. I am so impressed. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Bravo" Posted by Watching you on 19:52:11 9/20/2001 Jeanilou. And, there you have it, those who asked. I agree wholeheartedly and enthusiastically. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Lurker XIV" Posted by Jerrya on 20:59:41 9/20/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 20:59:41, 9/20/2001 You are so funny! bedpan JOHN what a gas, LOL!! I don't get it either. . . A third world scientist has no expert knowledge of common sense. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Jerrya" Posted by zapata on 17:55:54 9/21/2001 How are you feeling today? I hope things are going fine for you. Get that old fighting spirit up, you can beat this thing. May God Bless you with a long and full life. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Jerrya" Posted by LurkerXIV on 10:40:39 9/21/2001 Glad I could make you laugh. Hang in there, kiddo....hope your treatments are working. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "The paths of glory..." Posted by Greenleaf on 21:03:22 9/20/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:03:22, 9/20/2001 Although she may not have a beard or wear a turban, Jameson is, imho, an egoistic, cyperspace terrorist. She harbors little cells of mindless followers, who, despite all the evidence to the contrary, believe that the Rams are innocent. Jams, and her ilk, hit and run and hide in cyperspace caves. We, the truth seekers, reach practical conclusions, via reason and common sense. We have only one agenda: Find and punish the perpetrators of the JBR murder. Our journey is straightforward. We participate in an open forum and subscribe to the common rules of decency. There is no mystery as to why we are at JW or what we are trying to accomplish. Obviously seeking glory, Jams is, imho, guilty of, among other things, obstructing justice. "The paths of glory lead but to the grave." Those words should be tattooed on jams behind. Flame away! Greenleaf (edited to change now to not) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Starry" Posted by zapata on 16:19:10 9/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 16:19:10, 9/21/2001 Geesh Greenleaf, you are my hero. Yes, I agree Jameson is evil. I believe that with all my heart. I believe she could care less for an innocent murdered child as long as she can get attention by spreading hir propaganda and down right lies. She has proven hirself a liar in many ways, like the post about Gsquared in which Jameson denied being jamesonposter, but then turned right around and admitted it to the Daily Camera. How blind are hir followers. Jameson is so dangerous to this case. I use to think if we ignored hir she would vanish. She will not. Just think, if Jameson's was the only forum on this case how many innocent people would be mislead. I believe with all my heart that her lies have to be outted, that the truth has to be posted so all can decide for themselves who is telling the truth. Jameson has done more to harm this search for justice than anyone in this case except the parents of the murdered child. This is my opinion and the forum owner is not responsible for my opinion. Jameson, deal with it! edited to reply to Greenleaf. Sorry my eyes are so bad today. Blood pressure you know. LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "I second you WY" Posted by purr on 20:39:36 9/20/2001 bravo 2 jeanilou!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Me three Jeanilou" Posted by Thor on 21:15:29 9/20/2001 Hey Greenie, don't be too sure about hir not having a beard....LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Just trying" Posted by zapata on 16:10:23 9/21/2001 to nip evil in the bud. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "hello zapata" Posted by maketoast on 23:44:22 9/20/2001 >I thought you were a better person >than that. You thought I was a better person than that? Than what? All I did was ask a question. All I did was ask why you bash Jameson so much, so I could understand it a little better. Geez... >Now, I have to go see just >who you are and how you >are connected to Jameson. So, >Professor Foster thought you were JAR >at one time. Where'd you park your squad car Dick Tracy? > >I guess I know who you are. > Neat. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Maketoast...are you of the www.maketoast.com site?" Posted by Dunvegan on 00:04:12 9/21/2001 Or, are you just using the name of someone who is a case participant? Like you said...just asking a question. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Dunvegan" Posted by maketoast on 00:13:19 9/21/2001 Hi, Yeah, I'm the long lost maketoast from maketoast.com. I say long lost because I haven't participated in the forums since 1997-98. In fact, I just registered here a couple of weeks ago. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Welcome Maketoast!" Posted by MrsBrady on 06:09:27 9/21/2001 Along with Ken Polzin's and Halle's, Maketoast is among the "nes plus ultra" of the JonBenet sites. He is a fine young man (and I emphasize young) who saw a niche and a need and used his talents to fill it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "MrsBrady" Posted by maketoast on 12:47:57 9/21/2001 >Along with Ken Polzin's and Halle's, Maketoast >is among the "nes plus ultra" >of the JonBenet sites. >He is a fine young man (and >I emphasize young) who saw a >niche and a need and used >his talents to fill it. Hi MrsB, long time no see! I was relieved to find out you still maintain your site when I went news hunting on the 11th. Keep it up, and thanks for backing me up in here. ;-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "maketoast?" Posted by pinker on 07:16:47 9/21/2001 Why does jameson's addy pop up if one wishes to send an e-mail to you at her site? You actually let her open your mail? Just curious...Not that I have a dang thing to e-mail you about. And what made you suddenly come out of hiding? Were you involved/contacted about the jazzy joax investigation? She claims to have spoken with Beckner again yesterday and he informed her she would be contacted pronto the minute the test results of her DNA fiasco are available ... hmmm, that makes me question Beckner's credibility as many on this forum know more 'pure' evidence than jameson and none here seem to have spoken to him. Well, maybe I'm wrong has anyone here chatted with the fine cop? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "pinker" Posted by maketoast on 12:57:35 9/21/2001 >Why does jameson's addy pop up if >one wishes to send an e-mail >to you at her site? Not sure about that one, but I just read that everyone over there has that e-mail address. >You actually let her open your >mail? Just curious...Not that I >have a dang thing to e-mail >you about. And what made >you suddenly come out of hiding? > Were you involved/contacted about the >jazzy joax investigation? Well, I haven't exactly been hiding. In fact I've been leading a fairly full life outside of the doors. I haven't added anything new to maketoast.com since high school, which was 3 years ago, but I left the site up because so many people used it as a resource. I wasn't aware people were using the guestbook as a forum, and I certainly wasn't aware that someone had posted a confession. So, yes, that is one of the reasons I came to the JBR forums, to try to find out more about this and get caught up on some things. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Wait a minute!" Posted by zapata on 16:30:44 9/21/2001 That maketoast site has had new pictures added to it within the last year or so. That maketoast site has added a forum to post on case in less than the last three years. What's up? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "5. Is that SOP?" Posted by Watching you on 07:21:28 9/21/2001 I wasn't aware that law enforcement agencies were under any obligation to inform tipsters of any information pro or con concerning any part of the investigation, including the results of DNA testing on samples provided by said tipster. In fact, that kind of behavior by a Chief of Police would be unprofessional and unethical, IMO. But, hey, nothing would surprise me in this case. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Is this the same site?" Posted by RiverRat on 07:30:42 9/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 07:30:42, 9/21/2001 with JonBenet's pictures that was For Sale forever? And if so, is it still? As the owner of the message board, did it dawn on you to report the confession to the Boulder Police Department before jameson thought to? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "RiverRat" Posted by maketoast on 13:05:42 9/21/2001 > > with JonBenet's pictures >that was For Sale forever? And >if so, is it still? That's the one. No, the site isn't for sale anymore. Someone accused me of posting the confession myself to get publicity so I'd have a better chance of selling it. >As the owner of the message board, >did it dawn on you to >report the confession to the Boulder >Police Department before jameson thought to? > No, it didn't 'dawn' on me to do this. It might have if I had known there was a confession there in the first place. I didn't find out until the BPD asked me to look at my server logs. Even then, I thought that would be the nd of it because the thing looked phony. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "jams vs. the might of truth..." Posted by Greenleaf on 07:57:37 9/21/2001 God help us all if any part of our Justice System is relying on jams for evidence. Beckner is going to share the results with jams? No way. She has participated in one grand slam failure after another. I've lost track of all the red herrings she has thrown out onto the public road. I've lost track of all the innocent people she has so gleefully sought to implicate in the murder of JBR. Beckner is a smart man. He will not cave into her latest foolishness. "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread." So, jams, tread back to the mountain and prepare to hunker down in one of your tiny cells. The truth will prevail. May God bless all those who thirst for Justice, and may God bless America! GL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "Greenie" Posted by zapata on 16:34:39 9/21/2001 And may God Bless You!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "pinker" Posted by fly on 08:05:30 9/21/2001 pinker - As I understand things, the default email for EVERYBODY over at jameson's forum is her email address. I don't remember the reason jameson once gave for having it set up this way, but it is set up that way. It means nothing in terms of who's who. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "I for one" Posted by DuBois on 09:25:55 9/21/2001 think that Jameson is flying around on hir broomstick a little early this year. The reason the public forum is gone is because hir can't take hearing the truth. What a joke hir is, hir spreads more misinformation than anyone. The poster that said what she did to a young girl is true. What kind of a wicked person would expose a child to this kind of thing? Hir is pure evil, and I hope that hir is sued royally by LHP. I hope NYL can add another lawsuit to his list. I know someone out there has a picture of hir with a green face and a broomstick. I hope someone that has it can post it, how fitting for this time of year in light of hir latest stunt. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Maketoast" Posted by Jerrya on 09:11:33 9/21/2001 Just, please try to make me understand this a little better. If you can read, (which I hope you can,) do you now understand a little better after reading the many post that are above?? By the way what grade you in? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Jerrya" Posted by maketoast on 13:30:07 9/21/2001 >If you can read, (which I hope you can,) do you >now understand a little better after reading the >many post that are above?? >By the way what grade you in? Must you be so sarcastic?... Yes, I read the posts, but Jameson was one of the only people that was nice to me in the forums way back when, even though we had opposite theories. When I came back to the forums last week, Jameson was still nice to me. She didn't question me, she didn't doubt me, she just welcomed me. I'm sorry, this laundry list of complaints about Jameson just doesn't do it for me... Sorry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "maketoast" Posted by zapata on 16:44:36 9/21/2001 I am going to give you the benefit of a doubt, but I will draw no quarters where Jameson is concerned. Jameson carried my post over to hir forum and posted it there and posted that she felt sorry for me when we all know Jameson does not feel sorry for anyone. You nor Jameson want to mess with me. If you are maketoast, then you will soon feel the stab wound in your back when Jameson inserts hir trusty knife. Ask some forum posters about hir calling their house and trying to blackmail them into silence. There is nothing Jameson will not do to achieve hir goal of being the only voice on the internet in this case. That will not happen. The truth will prevail. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "DuBois" Posted by Seeker on 09:40:14 9/21/2001 Wrong! Hir doesn't rate being called a witch. Demon maybe, but not a witch. I'm soooo sick of witch bashing, you have no idea... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "DuBois" Posted by JR on 10:27:18 9/21/2001 Your comment is an insult to witches everywhere. Witches have scruples. Hirself has none IMHO. Now if you want to call hir the Devil's Advocate I will stand behind you 100%. Maketoast - hir is an admitted liar. Aside from all hir has done to interfere in this case that alone makes me ill, not to mention the sick pictures of lynchings, link/s to porno sites and so on one can stumble across on hir site. No one has any respect for hirself except possibly hirself and hir few minions. Hir credibility among case watchers is zero much as hir likes to brag hir is the case expert and that hir has the forum of record. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Maketoast and others:" Posted by Jeanilou on 14:02:57 9/21/2001 "Yes, I read the posts, but Jameson was one of the only people that was nice to me in the forums way back when, even though we had opposite theories. When I came back to the forums last week, Jameson was still nice to me. She didn't question me, she didn't doubt me, she just welcomed me."...Maketoast Maketoast: That is because you have not crossed her yet. Once you do, you will banned and called a "troll". Although I hope not for your sake. I really mean that. And others: Let's give him a break. When he has hung around with Jameson enough, he will learn what she is really all about. He admits he has been gone from the case for a while so he has not seen her in operation recently. He will see the light soon enough. Most do except for the mindless minions that hang on Jams every word. Jeanilou, the Internet Sleuth Opinions are a dime a dozen and this is just one of mine. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Jeanilou and others..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 14:23:12 9/21/2001 ...remember when jameson said that maketoast should be a suspect, because he was a young male overly interested in the case, and in collecting photos of JBR? My, my, "maketoast"....you are very forgiving. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "arrrrgh" Posted by Gemini on 14:55:32 9/21/2001 What would some of you guys do without Jameson? She seems to fill your needs for someone to hate. Personally, I find threads like this very inappropriate for this forum. Why not take it to the WOR? Just wondering. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Lurker IV" Posted by Jeanilou on 15:06:19 9/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:06:19, 9/21/2001 I was not around then. Did she really say Maketoast should be investigated? I have only been posting on the boards since late spring 2000. Edited to add: I have spoken with and exchanged email with Beckner. I have spoken to Tom Trujuillo as well as a female detective. None gave me any viable information. Beckner was very polite and answered my questions, or answered the ones he felt it was okay to answer. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Lurker XiV and others:" Posted by maketoast on 15:07:10 9/21/2001 Yes, I am forgiving. It's my defining characteristic. Actually, I've just always wanted to use defining characteristic in a sentence. I don't recall hearing that Jameson said that about me, but it's probably true. That's the whole point of these forums, isn't it? To throw around different theories? I should disclose that I 'was' investigated. I was tailed for a while by a Ramsey investigator, and later interviewed by phone. I don't know who it was exactly, but Jeff Shapiro told me the FBI was checking into me. I don't know. All of this was in 1997, and was a direct result of a bunch of BS in the old Bouldernews forum. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "I remember that" Posted by MrsBrady on 15:31:23 9/21/2001 and you alerted me that they were looking into me too - that's when I waved off "DeepThroat" (neighbor of the Ramseys in Vinings). Somtimes a rose is just a rose. Why all the skepticism here? Used to be a new hat would appear and they would get welcomed. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "YEP!" Posted by Jellyjaws on 15:51:53 9/21/2001 Welcome, Maketoast! I've always admired your work and your site. :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Agreed msB," Posted by Gemini on 15:50:19 9/21/2001 Welcome to JW, Maketoast. Hope you stick around long enough to discover some of the good things about this community ... like: Good case information Enough diverse opinion to make for interesting discussions Some very nice, caring people (really!). Looking forward to reading your opinions. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "maketoast" Posted by zapata on 16:26:12 9/21/2001 Hey, that is dickless Tracy to you. Well, let's see. You and Jameson both claim to have been accused by Professor Foster of being involved in the case. You own the forum's guestbook where the confessor posted. Jameson mis-lead the BPD with hir doctored Ims' she sent to them regarding the confessor. Are you really 17? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "Lighten up Z" Posted by Seeker on 16:38:27 9/21/2001 bold emphasis mine >Hey, that is dickless Tracy to you. LOL!!! Guys always think in terms of being "male". >Well, let's see. You and Jameson >both claim to have been accused >by Professor Foster of being involved >in the case. Where did he say that he was accused by Foster? I think you misread his post. >You own the forum's guestbook where the >confessor posted. Make that you didn't read his post. He said he'd been gone for several years from the forums and didn't know his "guestbook" was being used as a "forum" and didn't know about the confession either. >Jameson mis-lead the BPD with hir doctored >Ims' she sent to them regarding >the confessor. Let's not jump the gun here, we don't know that the IM's were doctored. I didn't see them, did you? >Are you really 17? YOU Zapata, are obviously NOT reading the posts but jumping to conclusions. Having a bad day? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Seeker" Posted by zapata on 17:13:11 9/21/2001 Here is where he said it when he was downing the other boards at Jameson's on the 19th. I am wondering how he got hir email to join the forum when aol had not returned it to hir then. http://64.225.95.82/dcf/WebbSleuths/832.html#1 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "I'm welcoming maketoast to Justice Watch..." Posted by Dunvegan on 17:24:29 9/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:24:29, 9/21/2001 If he so chooses, he can supply some of the missing puzzle pieces. If (gotta say it, milktoast) if you are indeed a member of the RST, you're even more interesting to talk to. Anyway, everyone knows that there's RST here now...and, I find it unethical to just toss people off because you disagree with them. One user in particular has not gotten back to me to discuss her behaviour on the board and her time-out...I had techncal trouble getting the chat software to work...so I e-mailed her with an option to call me or we'd exchange e-mail...but nothing yet. To be fair as I know how to be, the time-out will be extended until the end of the month. I'll extend the olive branch and be willing to openmindedly assess her side of the story. But, if a party breaks house rules or the User Agreement Policy three times...that's another matter.) So, welcome maketoast...and, since you are here and I can ask you directly, riddle me this: can you tell us where and from whom you acquired the videos of JonBenet at the pagents. The pictures, well, rather easy...but if you were so very young when you launched maketoast.com...how did you get access to these images of JonBenet (both film and video?) I thought these were the solely owned by the Ramseys. Don't mind me...again, I'm just asking questions...which is what we do here at Justice Watch. But I think I and the other forum members would appreciate how you came by so may videos of JonBenet so soon after her death...how did you aquire all that pagent footage? I'll bet if I called Patsy and asked for footage I'd get a alarm-unsecured door slammed in my face. Meanwhile, thanks for coming over to JW to offer to involve yourself in the discourse, motive aside. (Milktoast: you've got to understand that JW is rather loaded with pretenders now, until I either write a bunch of authenticating perl for this software...or purchase a brand new (non-php) UNIX-based server software that supplies automated authentication...this will remain the case for a while. Sorry, all...I'm working on it...security and accountability and all that stuff are my area of work...but I don't want to rip all of you from this place where you've become so at home by hastly substuting some new software (that's bound to have it's own glitches.) And, maketoast, getting back to the subject of being nosey: 1.Have you ever been in direct contact with the Ramseys? 2.Did they (or anyone else) grant you rights to use those videos? You'd legally need a sign-off to use the clips, otherwise. Nosey, aren't we, milktoast? I just wonder about this, that's all. However, again, welcome to Justice Watch. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "hiya dunvegan, here goes" Posted by maketoast on 17:40:46 9/21/2001 Thanks and I'll try to answer your Q's as clearly as I can. First off, I do not support the Ramseys. This is not to say that if given the right evidence I would never sway my opinion. Not so.. I would like to believe that they had nothing to do with it. Now, none of the pictures, videos, or sound clips on maketoast.com are used "legally". That is a direct statement. I do not own the rights to anything, and have never been in contact with the people who do own said rights. So, no I have never been in direct contact with the Ramseys. The pictures were collected from a variety of sources, including but not limited to magazines and tabloids. The pageant footage, as you may expect, came completely from what everyone saw on TV. I'm speaking of the TV tabloid shows, most of which aren't with us anymore. I've never been contacted to remove any of my site's content. In fact, I've been contacted by the Today Show on several occasions asking for permission to use some of the maketoast.com photos for on-air purposes. Of course I told them I could not grant them rights because I did not own them. I was 17 when I started my website. It wasn't located at maketoast.com for a few months, basically because I couldn't afford the domain hosting. I collected photos and clips over the next year or so, and stopped when I felt I had enough. I haven't added a photo since 1998. Surprisingly, I've had a steady stream of visitors since then. That's why the site is still up, because people still use it every day. Otherwise I would have taken it down long ago. I could use some of that hosting money. ;-) Cheers! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Yesterday" Posted by zapata on 17:01:54 9/21/2001 When he registered at Jameson's. He introduced himself as knowing Jameson back in 97-98, and I can't remember if Jameson posted or he posted that they were both accused by Foster. I will see if I can find the url for you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "re: zapata" Posted by maketoast on 17:14:13 9/21/2001 >When he registered at Jameson's. He >introduced himself as knowing Jameson >back in 97-98, and I can't >remember if Jameson posted or he >posted that they were both accused >by Foster. >I will see if I can find >the url for you. Yeah, I knew Jameson back then. We were both accused by Foster, that's no secret. That's why we knew each other, we were trying to figure out what was going on with Foster. Actually I'm 20, not 17. What exactly are you trying to find out? Just ask me whatever you want and I'll tell you. > You nor Jameson want to mess with me. That sounds like a threat. Listen zap, I don't have any issues with you, and I don't know why you have issues with me. I have no interest in 'messing' with you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "maketoast" Posted by zapata on 17:31:04 9/21/2001 I just will not put up with any of Jameson's bull. Let me be honest with you. You know why you are suspicious to me? You hop on Jameson's board and I have seen her little games played for so long, that you appeared just like Jameson's or hir little pal's always do with an introduction that you know Jameson, that you have been roaming around the boards and they you knew Jameson's would be a safe place to post, since all the other boards were mostly bashing Jameson, then Jameson jumps in and confirms your identity, then you show up here and in your first post you pop a Jameson bashing question. You just sound too much like Jameson who would do something like that to get the attention. If you have not been around the boards in the since 97 or 98, then how do you know what has happened in this case, such as the many sick antics Jameson has played on so many innocent people. How can you make a decision that Jameson's would be a safe haven for you? Just post something she does not agree with and see how long it stays up. As long as you kiss-ass then it will stay up till the cows come home. I hope and pray you are not Maketoast because I always enjoyed that site. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "i have an orange nintendo zapper" Posted by maketoast on 00:25:25 9/22/2001 >If you have not been around >the boards in the since 97 >or 98, then how do you >know what has happened in this >case, such as the many sick >antics Jameson has played on so >many innocent people. I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing about the case. I've avoided the case for a long time. >I hope and pray you are not >Maketoast because I always enjoyed that >site. Well now you have my permission to dislike that site if you feel the need. Frankly, I think you're just being silly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "i sent an email to maketoast" Posted by purr on 19:14:44 9/21/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:14:44, 9/21/2001 and his/her email name is dshadow@mindspring.com is that maketoast's real email address or an imposter?? i am suspicious too. dunvegan, how can a person start a website and not be around for over 4 years? dont all websites need a webmaster constantly working on it.....if there are any problems? i dont get that!! milktoast......your comments??? what inspired you and got you interested in the case again?? you really have never been to your site since 1998??? huh? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "purr, kitty" Posted by maketoast on 00:19:33 9/22/2001 >is that maketoast's real email addressor an >imposter?? >i am suspicious too. Yep, that was my first real internet e-mail address. Of course, I had AOL and Prodigy back then, but they didn't access the 'net until years later. I've since moved on from my MindSpring dial-up account to speedy Charter Cable modem access, but it's hard to get rid of an e-mail you've had for years and years. >dunvegan, how can a person start a >website and not be around for >over 4 years? >dont all websites need a webmaster constantly >working on it.....if there are any >problems? >i dont get that!! But there were no problems, I did a perfect website! ;-) Not really, I just lost interest in updating. I personally think the site needs a lot of work. I just don't have the time or will to do anything to it. I've spent most of my time updating my main site, innerpeacesecurity.com. So, I really wasn't gone for 4 years, I just wasn't updating maketoast.com, and I tried to avoid the JBR investigation. >milktoast......your comments??? what inspired youand got you >interested in the case again??you really >have never been to your site >since 1998??? huh? Well, I've been to it a lot since 1998. I just haven't added any photos. I log in and check the server stats and make sure the thing is still standing, but other than that, it's been pretty much the same site since 1998. I added a small wwwboard thing 6 months or so ago, but that's it. What inspired me to get back here? A warrant from the BPD to get my server logs because of that darn "confession". Oh well, it takes different strokes to move the world. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 109. "maketoast" Posted by zapata on 14:24:09 9/25/2001 How did you move the threads to storage at the directory site I found the other day if you have not been online since 98? There are recent theads there, as well as other ones. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 110. "orange nintendo zapper - duck hunt / super mario bros." Posted by maketoast on 14:29:27 9/25/2001 >How did you move the threads to >storage at the directory site I >found the other day if you >have not been online since 98? > There are recent theads there, >as well as other ones. What 'directory' site are you talking about? Move threads to storage? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 114. "Isn't" Posted by zapata on 15:18:36 9/25/2001 This where you moved a few random post? Starting in May of this year? http://maketoast.com/wwwboard/messages/ [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "purr..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 19:24:44 9/21/2001 ...that's his addy. It will be interesting to see what kind of reply you get. As I recall, he always used the hat "darkshadow" when posting at BNF. I wonder if Auntie BJ has any of his old posts. He sounded very different back then...much younger, and he used a lot of the "in" nethead language....the kind my grandson uses. Of course, since then, he may have matured and had some good English courses at college, and may have adapted a more business-like style. ;) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "hey lurker" Posted by maketoast on 00:05:44 9/22/2001 >...that's his addy. It will be >interesting to see what kind of >reply you get. As I >recall, he always used the hat >"darkshadow" when posting at BNF. >I wonder if Auntie BJ has >any of his old posts. >He sounded very different back then...much >younger, and he used a lot >of the "in" nethead language....the kind >my grandson uses. Of course, since >then, he may have matured and >had some good English courses at >college, and may have adapted a >more business-like style. ;) > Actually, I never used the 'darkshadow' hat in the forums. I always posted under 'maketoast'. The dshadow in my e-mail addy doesn't stand for darkshadow, it stands for deathshadow, which was an old hacker name of mine. But, that's not to say I haven't adapted a more business-like style. =) At least I don't think I posted anything under 'darkshadow', I don't see why I would have. I'd be interested in seeing some archived texts from the BNF too. Who is Auntie BJ? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Hi" Posted by Tricia on 00:43:27 9/22/2001 Maketoast. This is an interesting thread. I am finding out all kinds of stuff. So Maketoast why did you become interested in this case at such an early age? Also I was within seconds of buying your domain name. MrsBrady posted it was for sale. I went to the site, started the process to buy it and then had to answer the phone. I had to dash out so I thought I would buy it at a later date. Then never did. Don't know what in the world I would have done with it. I just thought it was cool. I would encourage you to read the AOL thread concerning Jameson. Zapata and others have posted some very compelling items concerning Jameson. So why did you become interested at such an early age? By the way WELCOME:) Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "thanks tricia!" Posted by maketoast on 02:39:25 9/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 02:39:25, 9/22/2001 Aww, did you have to answer the phone? ;-) Here's a long version of the answer to your question. Well, I got interested in this case early in 1997 while sitting in my high school library. I was 16. I was looking through the magazines on the rack and something struck me about the issue of Newsweek. You know the one, 'the strange world of jonbenet'. Here is a scan of the actual copy I was reading (I took it from the school.. Notice I ripped off the address label): http://www.maketoast.com/Newsweek.jpg I immediately began searching the net for information on this, which took me to the newsgroup alt.true-crime. That's where I started reading different theories, and really getting into the investigation. The first night, after I had been reading in the newsgroup for several hours, I was scared to go to bed. Seriously, I thought John Ramsey was going to pop in my window and kill me or something. It was really bizzare. I started telling my friends about this stuff and they got interested too. By then, a couple of sites had popped up about this. The one I really liked was Ken Polzin's. I could get links to all the papers, all the news sites, and most anything I could want to find. Except... pictures. Nobody had pictures. I had a scanner, and I knew people would want to see photos related to the crime, so I just started scanning pictures from the tabloids and the magazines, and eventually put them up at my old site, http://www.mindspring.com/~dshadow ... This site stayed up and got fairly popular, so I decided to invest in my very first domain name. I got maketoast.com and redesigned the site, basically the way it is now. I live just outside Atlanta, so I was able to get some pictures myself. I took a picture of the grave, I took a picture of the Ramseys' house in Vinings, I took a picture of the Paugh's residence in Roswell. I was hooked on this investigation for months, but strayed away after I learned I was under investigation by the Rammers. I never really got back into it. I read the news every once in a while, but this is the first time I've been back to the forums. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 116. "maketoast" Posted by zapata on 16:01:26 9/25/2001 Now, why would the Ramsey's peg you as a murderer. A sixteen year old child who lives in Atlanta. Did they think you had wings and could fly away on Christmas night to Boulder without your parents knowing it? I call their reaction to you "clutching at straws". Welcome!!! You can now say you have been through the fire. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "Hell in a handbasket" Posted by MrsBrady on 03:55:02 9/22/2001 This forum has truly gone to pot. We've even got a moderator making disparaging, intentional misspellings of hats. MakeToast darling, this forum is currently overrun by trolls. Please don't feel that you have to respond to every one (although I admire your sense of control and decorum). I'm timing out. This was home. Not any more. Wake me up when it's over. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "Ditto" Posted by Chris on 09:14:45 9/22/2001 . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Hello MakeToast !" Posted by ACandyRose on 03:50:38 9/22/2001 Hello MakeToast, First, welcome to Justice Watch! I was "AuntieBJ" and I am now "ACandyRose." My "ACandyRose" web site (a work in progress) is a documented archive history of the Internet Subculture of those following this murder case. It covers the good, the bad and the ugly. I have an "on case" area documenting various aspects of the case as well as a subculture timeline (also a work in progress) and transcript area. And last but not least I have an area that covers the subculture, the forums, the wars, hoaxes, rumors, hackings, etc. as well as including links to other posters excellent sites regarding the case which of course includes the link to your own "maketoast" site. In August 1998 when Justice Watch was first opened I used the hat name of "AuntieBJ" and I also used that hat on the BNF in 1998 and up until that forum went up in flames in May 1999. Prior to August 1998, I followed the case from several of the old AOL JonBenet Forums. In the fall of 1998 I created the "Webdollie" web site, my first project that documented the Dave Lucas Radio show that covered the JonBenet case from Albany, NY for 6 months. I recorded all of the live shows and then encoded them to realaudio and uploaded those files on my Webdollie site so all forum members could hear the shows. That site also has an extensive history on that radio show. During that same period of time I created what I titled, "The Hell Hole" site and that comprised of screen shots I personally did from various public domains and is laid out as a virtual walk-thru of the Ramsey house. It wasn't until the beginning of 1999 that I started documenting the actual subculture following this case and that is when the "ACandyRose" name and site was created. I collected many archive files from the old BNF (1997-1998), the Geraldo Forum and some from Joshua-7 and I have extensive archive files (partially off line at this time) of all the major forums (Justice Watch, Jameson's Forum, Murphy's original WebbSleuths Forum and Cybersleuths) as well as my own forums on the Delphi forums network. You are welcome to visit my web site at www.acandyrose.com I am also the webmaster of the support site for Steve Thomas at www.forstevethomas.com I also have a separate extensive web site I did for and about J.T.Colfax. I also put up a separate web site as a community project in coordination with Jameson that shows her personal photo collection of the ramsey house. Let me add though that Jameson does not recognize my ACandyRose history archive site as valued information regarding this case. All I can comment is .... whatever :-) Although I have documented many aspects of the subculture following this case I do not consider myself an authority on all the very early subculture history. I leave that up to old timers. ACandyRose www.acandyrose.com [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL ACandyRose ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "MrsBrady" Posted by Tricia on 09:00:41 9/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:00:41, 9/22/2001 If you are talking about Duvegan's spelling of maketoast as "milktoast" I am sure that was a mistake. I did the same thing about 3 times and kept catching myself. Other than that typo I thought Dunvegan post was very warm and welcoming to maketoast. Maketoast even aswered Dunvegan's post in a very happy manner. I am confused as to why you are so angry. Justice Watch will always have some sort of discourse as do all forums. Dunvegan is doing her best to try and make this forum better than it ever has been. Dunvegan can speak for herself of course but I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth and hope you reconsider what you stated in your post Tricia edited to add I had no idea who maketoast was until this thread. I think it's only normal for people like Dunvegan and myself to ask quesions of this person. I would like to say that I can tell I really like maketoast and hope he posts more. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "Tricia," Posted by LurkerXIV on 09:18:36 9/22/2001 Thanks for your post. I'm sure the misspelling was an oversight by Dun. Dun received the bad news last evening that her husband was laid off from his job. Is that a good enough excuse for making a typo? I can't understand the anger from those who used to be loyal to JW, but now have other allegiances. You all have other places to post....so go there, and leave us alone! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 85. "i made the same misspelling myself..........." Posted by purr on 11:20:19 9/22/2001 in my previous post i spelled maketoast correctly and then incorrectly in the very same post. as did dunvegan. dun has proven herself on this forum. she is a high-class woman who would never, ever stoop to that. but she is entitled to find out if maketoast is the real maketoast......as she IS the moderator. a vote for dun from purr. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "Hi, maketoast," Posted by LurkerXIV on 08:28:01 9/22/2001 Now I believe you are really you, because I remember the part about you taking photos of the gravesite and of Nedra and Don's house. Yup, I'm satisfied you're not a troll. Like Ma says, there are so many of them around here these days, I always reserve judgment on a newbie's (or a returnee's) identity until they post sufficiently to get a handle on it. So, darkshadow was a troll who made us think he was you. Did you post under Nick Williams and RNW, or were they impostors also? How's the post-punk rock band doing? It must have been scary to be investigated by the Rammers! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 111. "hey lurker" Posted by maketoast on 14:42:26 9/25/2001 >So, darkshadow was a troll who made >us think he was you. >Did you post under Nick Williams >and RNW, or were they impostors >also? >How's the post-punk rock band doing? >It must have been scary to be >investigated by the Rammers! Yes, now that you mention it, I think I used RNW and/or Nick Williams quite a bit. Some of those posts may be impostors, but why would someone want to be me in a forum? Thanks for asking about the music! It's going okay, although I'm not playing out in a band at the moment. We do still record all the time and we've got a bunch of mp3s and stuff over at http://www.innerpeacesecurity.com Yes, it was quite scary being investigated. I was playing a punk show the night my parents got paid a visit by this investigator at their workplace, so they didn't tell me until the next morning. They were more upset than I was, because they didn't understand how simply having a website could get the interest of the cops. It wasn't until later I found out it was because of some 'darkshadow' postings in the BNF. But, I talked to the investigator guy on the phone and that's when he found out my age and quickly dropped everything. See, this P.I. knew where I lived, what kind of car I was driving, where my parents worked, what they were doing, where I was, but for some reason he didn't know how old I was. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL maketoast ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "Hi maketoast.... I can imagine" Posted by Show Me on 08:41:46 9/22/2001 what your parents thought when the Rammers were investigating you. "Son, there is a Spin team at the door...just what the heck have you been doing on the pc?" lol I am amazed you put such a web site up at 16! Are you in college now? Here's a big cup of Starbucks coffee for Mrs. Brady...if she ever comes back. :( [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "Right" Posted by Tricia on 08:58:21 9/22/2001 Show Me. Can you imagine the RST showing up and investigating your 16 year old child? YIKES. So what did your parents do maketoast? What did you do? What questions did they ask you? Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "Tricia" Posted by RiverRat on 08:58:17 9/22/2001 It's not really confusing if you followed the play. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. "Tricia... " Posted by Show Me on 09:06:14 9/22/2001 I can't imagine what I would do if the BPD and Rammers were investigating my kid's website.! I would be shocked. Can you tell us a little more about it Maketoast? If you can't discuss it I understand.... but I would really like to know your parents thought, and did you get punished? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "Mrs,Brady..." Posted by StCrispin on 09:28:37 9/22/2001 ..The secret Queen! I am very glad you have finally decided to show your true colors after years of lies and misleading! At last, the other Queens, Chris, Denver, lori, Spencer and Jonesy, the *Matt in love guy* too have decided to be honest and go open in their support, including living expenses, of the prostitute known as Nancy Krebs from CA. Yes, I have evidence and I will show it whenever and wherever it's of my interest. Mrs.Brady, I am glad that people now know who you are and why you are so upset. Mrs.Brady is upset because Chris, and through Chris, the women that call themselves Queens, did try to use Dunvegan to control JW without having to get rid of it. The problem is that Dunvegan has given you all a lesson by keeping control. Mrs.Brady, the *secret Queen*, is secret no more! OOH! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "chris..." Posted by StCrispin on 09:38:17 9/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:38:17, 9/22/2001 ....you're attacking dunvegan in FS because she didn't went by your fraudulent atempt to keep JW control so are doing your buddies too! Did you collect your $8000? RFLOL, you ain't only dumb, you're a nutzso! All temper and breasts! A sailor, a sailor.....RFLOL WY don't go with Mrs.Brady, she's one of them! Folks go to FS and read what Chris and all them are posting there about Dunvegan and every and each one of you! OOH! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "Excuse me?" Posted by RiverRat on 09:57:49 9/22/2001 Am I supposed to back up to this post and let our words jump all over? I am confused as to how this takes place..... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "Whoever opened the " Posted by Florida on 09:49:52 9/22/2001 door can now turn off the lights. Goodby [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 76. "St Crispin is right" Posted by v_p on 10:42:05 9/22/2001 Ma, I'm surprised at you... Aunt Flabby, is it? I'm not at all surprised at Chris... if it smells like a snake... Flame away over there in your slimy cave with your repetitive insults, lmao... You all know the news will be heating up soon on this case with the trials coming up, so you're scurrying to destroy JW ... Dun will make a success of this forum, despite your pathetic efforts to ruin it. You've all long forgotten the reason any of us came here, JFJBR. Dun is bright, kind, fair, and focused on where she wants to take this forum... the best thing you did, Chris, was to choose her to take over. Sorry she is disappointing you in not failing. Ma has already said she has lost interest and is giving up the daily news... I'm sure Dun will either do it herself, or find someone who can. JW is here to stay until the end, deal with it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 74. "Hold On" Posted by Tricia on 10:20:49 9/22/2001 I am so confused. I have an idea. Let's talk about the JonBenet Ramsey case. Maketoast hi again. Showme and I are curious as to your parents reaction to the RST showing up at your door. I can only imagine your shock when this happened. Maketoast like Showme said if you can't discuss it I would totally understand but I would LOVE to hear the details of this Ramsey side show. Thanks Maketoast. Almost bought that domain name. I swear:) Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 75. "Now What" Posted by Ally on 10:41:15 9/22/2001 Are you saying WY and her cohorts are merely Level II Queens? L O L 'WY' may be one prolific poster but I really don't see anything sinister there. Same with Mrs. Brady, what is up with that accusation? Seems to me she's done her best to report the news, remain objective, steer clear of cliques? But what do I know. It would take 5+ years to absorb all this Internet subculture to which you all refer and I haven't the time. Tricia? Think you'll be my new best friend, -----> Ally 8^D [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 77. "Newbies, welcomed? hahahahaha" Posted by v_p on 10:48:13 9/22/2001 35. "I remember that" Posted by MrsBrady on 15:31:23 9/21/2001 "...Why all the skepticism here? Used to be a new hat would appear and they would get welcomed." Really ma? How long ago was that? I haven't seen a new hat since I've been here not go through pure hell before having a civil word posted to them. BTW, welcome maketoast... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 95. "Golly, me too!" Posted by Mels on 12:51:02 9/22/2001 When I signed up at J-7 I was acussed immediately of being Melissa....whoever the Hell that was! I am a Melissa...but had come in at the WRONG time to call myself Mels due to a problem I guess with a Melissa...but I hated the nick Missy, Lis and Lissa were Sorority nicks and didn't feel it appropriate anymore, so Mels was born...a very comfy fit. If I posted I was rammed back at and accused of being someone else. I always wondered why some were accepted and others sneered at...but i had come for JBR. And the injustice, information, and hopes of it being made right, etc. Then I went to Vegas for a few days and the whole world changed! Luckily Chris helped me get back on board...and all was resonably well with the advent of JW. Chris was ALWAYS nice to me, but there were others waiting to strike that match and roast my A**. In fact, I rarely even was acknowledged, my posts and ideas hanging out in left field...it was ok if someone else posted what I said, but no one cared or answered, 'cept Chris, who was VERY nice and answered emails from me and tried to help me solve a personal murder situation in my life. Chris did a great job for all the heckling she took and the threats to her family, etc...and she turned this forum over to a Class-Act...did anyone miss that??? Dun is a First-Rate Class-Act. Bar None! So, If there are chapped behinds, I say bring out the Desitin and let's make it better...get over it! If they want to leave, they will be missed, by me, anyway...but JW will go on. And when things settle down for them, perhaps they will be back...I hope so anyway. It is absolutely normal after all the mud slinging over the years for some here to grill a newbie whose had a web site like Maketoast's...if you've been here from the beginning (J-7, BNF), then you know there is plenty of water under the bridge and some of us just need to take a good look at it's contents. That's all...Zappata is just examining and Maketoast is holding his own so far, quite nicely, I might add. And for him to pop up now, with the whirlpool whirling, it isn't a surprise that there are questions for him to answer. And he obviously wants to play here and be a part, which he is and has been, so it is good for him to answer these questions. But, I have to say there has been a positive change to the forum in these last few weeks or I would not have been posting like i have...It seems a friendly congenial place to play now. There are some names I like to see and hear from: Tricia, Ally, Ayeka, Bets and many more! I am delighted at this phase JW is going through! It seems a kinder gentler place to play...though i do keep my fire extinguisher handy at all times. I really enjoy a rousing discussion and the very informative posts Dun makes...it is my morning news, my afternoon post, my evening paper. I like this place and the people here! Welcome Maketoast! Mels [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 83. "C'est vrai, v-p!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:16:58 9/22/2001 I haven't seen a new hat since I've been here not go through pure hell before having a civil word posted to them. v-p, when I first posted nearly 5 yrs ago on J-7, JW's predecessor, I was royally reamed by Gemini (the very same who is now shocked--I tell you--SHOCKED! at intitiation rites.) "Auntie Gem" she was called in those days, as she daily graded all posts by new posters, while cautioning them: "You may become a good poster someday, if you do suchandsuch and soandso". Babe did a brilliant satire on Auntie Gem...wish I still had it. Anyway, everything old is new again, here on the JBR boards. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 82. "this forum is better than any soap opera i have ever watched" Posted by purr on 11:14:09 9/22/2001 this forum is better than any soap opera i have ever watched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the drama, the drama queens, the characters, the good guys, the bad guys, the crazy people, the vampires, the absolute hilarity of it all, the angst, the plot thickening daily, the sickos, the nice people, the needy people, the blasters, the flamers, the explosioners, the haters, the lovers, the amusing ones, the thoughtful ones, the gardeners, the cooks, the heroes, the hard workers, the sloths, the brilliant, the ignorant, the high horses, the good spellers, the bad spellers, the eloquent writers, the terrorizers, the sane, the spiritual beings, the prayerful, the ying, the yang, the moms, the dads, the youngsters, the oldsters, the ones with good taste, the supportive huggers, the laughable idiots, the picky pickers, the good, the bad, and the ugly. now i know why i am "hooked" to this forum. now i understand. thanks to you all and all of your fascinating personalities! i sincerely mean that. and as always, justice for jonbenet who was sent from this world. thank God she lives in peace now! because........just like this forum......the world is a wild and crazy place to live right now! praying for love and peace for all during this ongoing tragedy! purr [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 86. "purr..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:22:16 9/22/2001 this forum is better than any soap opera i have ever watched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what keeps them all coming back, day after day, purr...even after they've stomped off with steam coming out of their ears. They read here every day to fill some kind of need in their lonely lives. Thanks for your peaceful words, but this is not now and has never been a Peaceable Kingdom. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 89. "Gazhundeit!" Posted by Ally on 11:27:46 9/22/2001 >Thanks for your peaceful words, but this >is not now and has never been a Peaceable Kingdom. That's right! Thanks to dedicated posters like yourself!! Don't be modest, Lurker, stand up and be counted. Oh. You already did that. (LurkerXIV) Let's all pull together and make this thread the funny blast from the past it's morphed into. -----------> Ally [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 88. "i hear you lurker........." Posted by purr on 11:26:31 9/22/2001 especially your last sentence. only heaven can give us true peace! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 80. "But seriously folks" Posted by Ally on 11:11:32 9/22/2001 >Really ma? How long ago was that? I haven't seen >a new hat since I've been here not go through >pure hell before having a civil word posted to them. Then why do you join in? For that special sense of belonging? Yeah right. Come on people. Why can't these issues be confined to their respective forums where they belong. Use meditation to help diminish your ego's in order to transmit loving energy. (Or is that, eggos. L'eggos?) forget it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 87. "how about this ally.....????" Posted by purr on 11:24:39 9/22/2001 egg on your face eggees eggers ego to the 2nd power let go of my eggos you just finally have to laugh about all the words spewed in here....... no one is ever going to change in here. you just have to love everyone where they are in their life right now. hugs to all. peace! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 78. "V_P" Posted by Jellyjaws on 10:59:10 9/22/2001 You got that right, says Jellyjaws, twirling her beanie! :P So, what do we have here? A catfight? A hostile takeover? What a world! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 81. "Hi Jelly" Posted by v_p on 11:13:00 9/22/2001 Nah, just a group of old pussy(cat)s trying to get in one last swipe. I'm putting them on ignore... there are bigger things in this world, (war, for instance), and it makes me ill to think they would come here and start this crap now... shows a person's character. One thing I will not do is leave and abandon JonBenet because of them. It's NOT about a bunch of old queens and disgruntled ex-members, as much as they'd like for it to be. I'm staying... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 79. "What is going on?" Posted by Show Me on 11:10:12 9/22/2001 Dun or someone.. can you enlighten us? What is St.Crispin talking about? Totally confused here... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 91. "Well...I have no idea...???" Posted by Dunvegan on 11:32:31 9/22/2001 ...just got Mr. Dunvegan's mother into the country after her Indochina visit, late last night. Mr. Dunvegan drove from SF to LAX as he no longer trusted having his 74 year old mother flight-hopping. We're all going to Mendocino for the day. And, I really do not know what "misspelling" is being refered to (I often type while trying to do other things, and misspell) and I haven't been to the CS in about 2 weeks. I'm a wee bit shocked. I don't get it. Chris was very cordial to David and I when we met with her in Michigan. My understanding is that Chris was working two shifts at the vet clinic, and on her way to vet school. Chris and her husband were very hospitible...and I hope that David and I were also. Mrs. Brady and I have exchanged a couple of very civil e-mails...hadn't ever met her though. I'm really without understanding as to what this thread is about...with the exception of the fact that I'm not a Queen (?) and that I've tried to be inpartial and fair to everyone, to the best of my ability. I haven't received any complaints from either Chris or Mrs. Brady since had the board. OK...I'll go to CS and find out what the ruckus is about. Personally, I have no animosity against anyone...and certainly as of this minute, I've heard nothing from either Chris or Mrs. Brady about their displeasure with me. (May be a typo in there...I don't always spellcheck....) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 84. "Disgusted!" Posted by Jellyjaws on 11:20:08 9/22/2001 I'm disgusted. Take all this pettiness to a House of Worship. Say a prayer for all the thousands who have real problems. Anyone who continues this is making a fool out of themselves. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 92. "Jelly, " Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:34:51 9/22/2001 I'm sure you recognize that this is misdirected anger. We are all just now coming out of the shock and disbelief stages of our nation's tragedy. The next stage is anger. This seems a pretty innocuous way of letting off steam....I've seen it all over the internet yesterday and today. People are slowly becoming able to feel again...and what many feel is anger. I'm also sure that the majority of JBR posters have been to their houses of worship (or fields and woods, or just their inner place) many many times in the past 12 days to pray to their Higher Power. It's a bit self-righteous of you to think they have not. I think everyone needs space right now. Thank you, dunvegan, for your continuous tolerant and patient acceptance of everyone here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 90. "purr...." Posted by Ally on 11:30:18 9/22/2001 L O L, you always seem to see the humor in everything. Jelly, go make a sandwich and use LOTS of it. Better yet make toast. Get it? Get it? ha. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 108. "haaaaaaaaaaaaa........i got it!" Posted by purr on 17:25:34 9/22/2001 i got the joke..... heeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaa thanks for the acknowledgement. i dont always see the humor in things........especially when i am pmsing. but seems the very next day ......after it all.. i do find humor, and i have been laughing about this forum all day long. at least i know jonbenet is experiencing pure happiness too. words, words, words......they are only words. if we all had the answer...the case would be solved by now!!! so ally cat.........you are humorous too. especially when you called me a ms. puss. hee hee hee.....i just laughed. i am also enjoying the fastest lurk in the history of the world - Watching You. i liked that WY......really i did. you should be in the guiness book of world records. this place is great! never, never a boring day. ever!!!! voting for dunvegan to work for the fbi. she could catch bin Laden with all of her computer tricks. maybe she could make him laugh to death with her funny graphics! dun for pres!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 93. "Dunvegan" Posted by Tricia on 11:35:53 9/22/2001 You just keep doing the wonderful job you are doing. Don't let these petty little things get you down. You made a typo and for some reason MrsBrady took offense. I don't get it either. Please Dunvegan go enjoy your family today ok? Take Care. Many of us are behind you 100 percent Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 113. "Dunvegan" Posted by zapata on 15:08:52 9/25/2001 I agree with Tricia. Keep up the good work. Have a wonderful day. This thread has been very informative. I would never have guessed at some of the facts that are on here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 94. "Amen, Tricia!" Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:46:14 9/22/2001 Dunvegan, I can give you the long version, from a five-year historical perspective, and so can ACandyRose. It's nothing you have said or done, believe me. It goes a waaaaay back. Like Tricia, I give you my support, and email me if you want to hear "the rest of the story". I'm so glad your relatives have returned safely home. To Show Me and the many other sincere posters, it's difficult to understand when you only see the "good faces" the disruptors put on here. What you have to see is what goes on in their private forums. Then you would understand their plans to sabotage JusticeWatch,and to undermine all of Dunvegan's good intentions. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 99. "A point or two before I pack and leave for Mendoci..." Posted by Dunvegan on 13:41:34 9/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 13:41:34, 9/22/2001 ...Maketoast, I apologize if I mistyped your name...David and I were up at 4 a.m. Friday morning so he could drive to LAX and pick up his mom from her Indochina tour group. It was late, I'd been rushing, washing, scrubbing, mopping, and doing all the things a daughter-in-law tries to do to make things lovely for her...she'd be tired from 2 weeks travel, not to mention 2 hours at customs, and a 7 hour drive to San Francisco. I wanted to make her room nice for her. By the time I got back to the forum...I was exhausted. "Milktoast" is an intutive English word..."Maketoast" is a username. I sincerely apologize if in my exhaustion I made that mistake. It is not in any way indicitave of my sentiments towards your posts. (Any way, if I did, half-asleep and dog-tired...run that post through a spell checker (I really don't remember what I did late last night to every post), it would have automatically corrected your handle to "Milktoast", a dictionary term...I am sorry, I just don't remember what I did late last night while bustling around making David's mother comfortable. Maketoast: you are still welcome to post here. I know your name...and meant nothing by mis-typing or spellchecking it. Secondly, I'd appreciate a private and personal response from Chris Wheeler and Mrs. Brady as to they are suddenly expressing their entire dissatisfaction with my handling of this forum. I promise you Chris and Mrs. Brady that this correspondence would be off-line, confidential, and personal. Because, I really wonder what's going on here. Since both Chris and Mrs. Brady have been around a very long time in the JBR forum world, I'd appreciate it if they'd let me know or had ever tosssed me a clue as to why things were going so quickly to "hell in a handbasket". Why wasn't I spoken to prior to this blow-up? That's only fair. I am certain that both Chris and Mrs. Brady know that Jameson has threatened me with legal action and threatening language, only three days after I accepted Justice Watch from Chris (I still maintain that my visit with Chris in Michigan was a gracious one, and at her very own home, where I traveled cross-country to see her.) If Chris had any troubles to warn me of...Chris, why didn't you tell David and I then? And, I copied Mrs. Brady, with full trust of her instincts and kindness, on the fact that I'd been legally threatened by Jameson, asking if she'd ever in her many years had any such action brought to her (me being fresh to this particular forum.) The vitrol Flamesleuths has continuiously expressed and favored me with from day-one, I found perplexing, but I let roll off my back: it's a flame-thrower forum. No real case news is deeply investigated there, just slams against anyone not a part of that group. I am not part of that group, so I did not actively participate. But, as the visitor logs will show, I do read there. FS is perplexing, all bite, nothing else...but I read so as to just understand the breadth of the JBR case culture. What's happening here, really? I have expressed no hostility towards anyone...Mrs. Brady and Chris Wheeler are cordially invited to contact me personally with their dissatisfactions. I would really like to understand this. I can be reached via e-mail while traveling today and tomorrow at leia@palm.net at any time. I will be online again after we're in our hotel room. We shall also have our cell phone with us: 415-317-3141. (Another FS slam is that I give out my address/ph. nos. But, since I've been administrating sites since 1995, all of that information is out all over the Internet, as Technical Contact information. A web search on my name is how my private client company found me to do work for them since I left Logictier. A web search pulls all of this up...a Security Team Lead needs to be accessable. So, it's nothing for me to post this publically-available information here.) One more time: I really do not get it. I have always commended Chris and Mrs. Brady on their dedication to the Ramsey case, and their acumen. I have always had nothing but laudits to express towards both of you. If you have issues, and you feel that this sacred territory of Justice Watch space is being horrifically mismanaged, I'd prefer you directly confront me and speak face-to-face with me, both of you, regarding your concerns. I don't hide. I don't snipe and run. I do not talk about either Chris or Mrs. Brady behind their backs. I've stood up publically many times and thanked them, shown appreciation to them, and point to them as good and trusted sources of case news. I'm right here. And, Chris and Ms Brady, will take your calls, and/or answer your e-mails promptly. I think you both should speak to me directly rather that this way. You'll be surprised to find me reasonable and willing to listen. And, WY...what happened? I ask you to contact me also today, or at your earliest convenience. This is an open forum...not a one-ideology forum. There is room for discussion and debate here. Although it is dismaying to see this happen...I promise to continue with Justice Watch...and even to expand its reach and breadth in the cause of justice for victims. Last concern: did that thinly-veiled legal threat I received just 3 days after taking over JW have anything to do with jettisoning JW at the particular time it was handed to me? It's only fair that I be told about such an action, if that has anything to do with what's going on. If I need to gear up for a major lawsuit against this forum, I need to be honestly informed, so that I may tell my legal counsel to be ready. Members: hang in here...I had a portent that this was about to be the Summer of Discontent...where allegiance swirl and re-group faster than in the middle-east. But, I never thought Chris or Mrs. Brady would take it upon themselves to attack me, without talking to me. I promise to remain as fair and impartial as possible and to run this forum with strength and dignity. Period. That's the best anyone can do. And, I'll pledge to do my best for you all, and victims of crime, the war effort, and mainly for JonBenet Ramsey. I'll be waiting to hear from Chris and Mrs. Brady, confidentially and personally, about why things have caused them to turn their backs on Justice Watch, because of me. Chris, Mrs. Brady...can you find in yourselve to speak to me, and just do that simple and reasonable thing? Edited to correct any mistakes I could find...I don't care to be called to task for a mispelling while I'm typing 100 miles per hour, and David and his mother are ready to hit the road.) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 115. "Dun" Posted by zapata on 15:57:33 9/25/2001 We are here. It seems the problem is that you are too open and honest. That is a character that some do not like on the forums. Some you think are your friends will stab you in the back when you are your lowest and sickest, then deny they have locked you out of their forums, and claim it is your hat that was locked out,not you. Which is hogwash. You are your hat. Some will build their secret forums, post emails from their posters and let a select few in to read. Lord help you if you start a forum. Those you think are your friends will take you to your lowest then blame everyone else for destroying something you love. I know. I have been there. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 117. "zapata" Posted by Pedro on 16:16:20 9/25/2001 you're darn right! But I don't think anyone here will believe what these people can do!. Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 100. "Dun" Posted by Watching you on 13:48:01 9/22/2001 you are one class act. I did contact you e-mail - twice. Yesterday and today. I did not receive your message to contact you again. I don't know what happened. My beef has nothing to do with what's going on elsewhere. You know I have been upfront with you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 97. "Hi MakeToast" Posted by Jayelles on 13:31:24 9/22/2001 I like your website! I'd be interested to hear your theory on the case. ALSO Did you really get investigated by the Ramseys in the early days? Pray tell... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 96. "Welcome" Posted by Thor on 13:21:15 9/22/2001 To Maketoast and Mels. Mels I look forward to your posts as well Maketoast. Maketoast, you are my daughter's age and seem much more mature than her (wish she was a little more mature, but maybe its safer she's a little more naive, LOL!). Would love to hear your theories. I am relatively new (since this April) because I did not have a computer. In fact, I didn't go on the internet at all until Thanksgiving of 1999. And that was because we were at my sister-in-law's and they had one! So I am new to all of this. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 98. "Dunvegan" Posted by Jayelles on 13:32:29 9/22/2001 Are you Scottish? I've been to Dunvegan Castle. Spent my honeymoon on Skye (it poured)! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 102. "Absolutely" Posted by v_p on 13:58:21 9/22/2001 A class act. If no answers are forthcoming from those you've asked explanations of, consider the source and move on. You've done nothing but add to this forum since you've taken it over. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 101. "Dunvegan" Posted by Jellyjaws on 13:57:14 9/22/2001 Hang tough, Professor! This is all wacky stuff. IMHO :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 104. "Dun" Posted by JR on 14:18:03 9/22/2001 I too am clueless as to what is going on here. I was under the impression CS is down as I haven't been able to access it for several days. What ever the problem is, seems to me it should be taken up with you personally or at least taken to the WOR. Just want to say you are doing a great job with JW and if anything may be a little too fair to some. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 103. "Dunvegan" Posted by Real Stormy on 14:09:24 9/22/2001 v_p is right. You are a class act. I admit I have been suspicious about the turnover of JW. Now it should be clear I had good reason. I was wrong. I apologize. You have nothing but my best wishes in administering JW. And, as is now clear, you are doing it fairly and with great dignity. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 106. "Hi Maketoast" Posted by Baybb on 15:00:44 9/22/2001 Long time, no see. Yours was the very first chat I ever went to sooooo long ago back in 1997. I think that was where I first met Scully. I still remember how thankful we all are were when you posted those Pics of JBR. Good to have you back. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 105. "Dun" Posted by Thor on 14:51:27 9/22/2001 I agree, hang in there. I'm not ass-kissing, what you see is what you get with Thor. I don't BS. You are doing wonderful here and I don't get it either. Have no clue what the hell is going on. But you have my support. I'm behind you all the way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 107. "clarification" Posted by sask on 16:24:16 9/22/2001 Flamesleuths and Cybersleuths are two different forums, and have no connection whatsoever. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 112. "arvada" Posted by arvada on 15:08:16 9/25/2001 Where are you going and why are you in that hand basket? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 118. "I was shocked" Posted by Cassandra on 17:32:08 9/26/2001 to see that even Starry has not been spared. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 119. "Starry! Who is one of the nicest," Posted by Cassandra on 17:36:59 9/26/2001 sweetest posters ever. I was stunned. I don't care what you say about me, but STARRY? Please. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 120. "Cassie" Posted by v_p on 17:50:27 9/26/2001 I think we got it, you're shocked on two threads spanning 3 posts that you perceived someone attacking starry... Please, would you show me where starry was "attacked?" [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 121. "How about on the" Posted by Cassandra on 09:24:21 9/27/2001 Paralegal thread? Does any sensible person think Starry deserved that? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 122. "And on Monitored and Censorship" Posted by Cassandra on 10:14:51 9/27/2001 thread. How many examples do you want before you admit it? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 123. "Gee Cassandra" Posted by v_p on 16:51:58 9/27/2001 I went to both threads and haven't seen anything which could be defined as an attack. You do know what an attack is, right? Mildly annoyed, yes... attack, I don't think so. BTW, this is the WOR. Are there posters whom no one informed me of who are immuned to flames in the WOR? I didn't "attack" Starry. No one "attacked" starry. But if it fits your agenda and the agenda of those to whom you answer, run with it. 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