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Dunvegan, Denver, 14:49:43, 9/22/2001 Denver...., Voyager, 15:14:22, 9/22/2001, (#1) Other forum, shannon, 16:39:30, 9/22/2001, (#2) Such Pettiness!, Mels, 18:11:13, 9/22/2001, (#3) HOWLING!!, LoriAnn, 18:53:12, 9/22/2001, (#4) LoriAnn, StCrispin, 19:05:08, 9/22/2001, (#5) EEEEeeeeewwwww, Ally, 19:34:11, 9/22/2001, (#6) Ally.., StCrispin, 19:40:40, 9/22/2001, (#7) Autumnal Equinox, Ally, 19:57:21, 9/22/2001, (#8) Bi=Polar!, StCrispin, 20:40:13, 9/22/2001, (#9) Is Cybersleuths, Cassandra, 08:12:40, 9/23/2001, (#10) Cassandra, driver, 09:06:21, 9/23/2001, (#11) A plea for peace.., Greenleaf, 11:06:37, 9/23/2001, (#12) Dear Dunvegan,, LurkerXIV, 11:14:36, 9/23/2001, (#13) Lurker, Cassandra, 12:35:33, 9/23/2001, (#14) Cassandra, LurkerXIV, 15:10:49, 9/23/2001, (#17) Lurker!, StCrispin, 15:13:27, 9/23/2001, (#18) LOSING SLEEP OVER IT, Chatter, 12:48:06, 9/23/2001, (#16) Hey cass, v_p, 12:47:16, 9/23/2001, (#15) hehe, samantha, 17:59:05, 9/23/2001, (#19) hoho, Ally, 19:28:23, 9/23/2001, (#20) Dunvegan, smellthecoffee, 23:10:13, 9/23/2001, (#21) Lurker,, Cassandra, 13:23:19, 9/25/2001, (#22) Cassandra, Pedro, 13:32:20, 9/25/2001, (#23) Pedro ..., Mandarin, 13:54:07, 9/25/2001, (#24) Mandarin, Pedro, 13:56:42, 9/25/2001, (#25) ................................................................... "Dunvegan" Posted by Denver on 14:57:06 9/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 14:57:06, 9/22/2001 This is my first post on JW, since Dunvegan took over the forum. It will also be my last post. I posted this response to Dun on FS regarding her comments about FS http://forums.delphi.com/flamesleuths/start but felt that I should post it here also. "The vitrol (sic) Flamesleuths has continuiously (sic) expressed favored me with, I found perplexing, but I let roll off my back: it's a flame-thrower forum." Actually, Dun, you have not been treated too badly here. But yes, this is a flame forum..nothing more. It could have been far worse. I think most posters gave you a chance up front to do the right thing, but you have failed miserably. Your handling of Morgan was another issue that has turned many people away from JW. Morgan was clearly baited, but the baiters were never reprimanded. There are many of us that are seeing an unfair and unequal handling of posters on JW. I know for a fact that one long-time poster attempted to protect the JW irc chat for you, and you showed little interest. It is now my understanding that Pedro had once again taken over the JW chat. I hope you understand the ramifications of what occurs in the Pedro controlled chats are not in the best interest of JW, at least in my opinion. "No real case news is properly investigated there, just slams against anyone not a part of that group. I am not part of that group, so I do not actively participate there. But, as the visitor logs will show, I do read there." This is not a Ram case investigation forum. Never was, never will be. It is a flame forum. And no, the flames are not just aimed at anyone not part of "that group", because there are many posters here that are not part of any group. There are many posters representing several "groups". In fact, there is a group of posters from your own JW that comes in here and flames anyone not part of their JW group. It is simply a place for anyone that has a desire to flame the idiocy they find on other forums. "That place is perplexing, all bite, nothing else...but to just understand the breadth of the JBR case culture." I am not sure what the last quote is attempting to express, but yes, FS is part of the JBR case culture. You would had to have been reading all the forums from January, 1997 to present to understand it all, Dun. A lot of history between lots of posters. A lot of good and bad blood. And due to that history, we know who the bad guys are and we know when a newbie hat shows up if it is really new or a new trouble-maker. But since you weren't around, and since you have surrounded yourself with a bunch of newbies that had a major part in almost taking down JW prior to your takeover of the forum, you are probably getting some very self-serving information from them. Chris did a good job of keeping out the trouble-makers up to the end, and now I see they are running the place and more are streaming in. Some of the new posters you are allowing to register have a long history of causing problems on forums, but I guess you don't know that, do you? So what is left at JW. We have the AK group of followers such as Lurker, VP, RiverRat, RealStormy, WatchingYou that nearly brought JW down with their hate-filled posts on CS. You also have a bunch of newbies that have no clue. You have several newbies that have a long history of causing trouble on Ram forums such as Samantha. I am registered at JW, but have never posted since you took over, Dun. I tried to give you the benefit of time to learn the ropes. I even sent a correspondence to you expressing concern over the possibility of litigation due to the defamatory remarks made about another poster. You didn't even bother to answer me, nor did you remove the posts that so clearly contained defamation. You have a big problem, Dun! JW was the forum of record at one time. It has been reduced to ashes by your ignorance, inability to moderate, and your inability to be impartial. Should the Ram case ever get interesting again with new information to discuss, I hope someone opens a forum for said discussion. All that is left is jameson's forum, and I would prefer to not post on her forum for obvious reasons. However, it is the only place left to go to for discussion at this time. Sadly. Edited to correct the date 1997. Denver/Digerati [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Denver...." Posted by Voyager on 15:14:22 9/22/2001 You and your friends wouldn't be about to open a new JB forum would you? Sounds like that is what you are leading up to with your propaganda of JW being in ashes and there being no place to go....was that the plan all along? Were you sent over to JW by a decisive group to plant seeds of division and discontent? Will be waiting for the other shoe to drop....what will you call your new forum? NotJusticeWatch.com? I have watched Dunvegan with admiration as she has taken this forum and made it fresh and organized and informative once again...not taking anything away from Chris who did a fine job for many years.... Your unwarranted criticism and ultrasensitive attitude after having come from the reportedly outrageously offensive and insensitve forum of flamesleuths makes me highly suspicious of your motives here... Waiting to see what New JB forums pop up on the net and who is promoting them.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Other forum" Posted by shannon on 16:39:30 9/22/2001 For a much more informative and honest forum where every theory is welcomed and debated other than Jamesons, go to Websleuths. Not Jams, the other better, orininal Websleuths. It's free and objective. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Such Pettiness!" Posted by Mels on 18:11:13 9/22/2001 And such Bullchit!! Has anyone thought of GIVING blood rather than seeking to DRAW it? *rolling eyes* Mels [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "HOWLING!!" Posted by LoriAnn on 18:53:12 9/22/2001 "At last, the other Queens, Chris, Denver, lori, Spencer and Jonesy, the *Matt in love guy* too have decided to be honest and go open in their support, including living expenses, of the prostitute known as Nancy Krebs from CA. Yes, I have evidence and I will show it whenever and wherever it's of my interest." Anxiously awaiting to see said proof considering I have never given even one penny to Nancy Krebs nor was I ever a supporter of her proposed claims. Get your lies straight before you start tossing out names. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "LoriAnn" Posted by StCrispin on 19:06:42 9/22/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:06:42, 9/22/2001 We will give proof, in about...2 years? :-) BTW: Dear, go to the proper thread or are you already in the *baccus* heaven ? LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "EEEEeeeeewwwww" Posted by Ally on 19:34:11 9/22/2001 St. Crispin, just where you from, actually? Oh forget it. LuLu Ann, L O L on that "howling" subject line. Why, that's what wolf-packs do, don't they? Why not wait for the full moon. --> Ally <-- [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Ally.." Posted by StCrispin on 19:40:40 9/22/2001 ...Sometimes, wolf pack gets nasty, a lot during the heat time! LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Autumnal Equinox" Posted by Ally on 19:57:21 9/22/2001 could possibly have something to do with it. http://solar.physics.montana.edu/YPOP/Classroom/Lessons/Sundials/equinox.html Or maybe they're just bi-polar. St C, I saw the Oh Canada Eh?! Dinner Show in Niagara Falls recently. It was magnificent, congrats. Oh, Canada. ;) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Bi=Polar!" Posted by StCrispin on 20:40:13 9/22/2001 LOL Well, OOH ! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Is Cybersleuths" Posted by Cassandra on 08:12:40 9/23/2001 just down or has it folded? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Cassandra" Posted by driver on 09:06:21 9/23/2001 Better to direct that to skydog. Although, I believe flamesleuths claims to have the bottom line. Surely you are in touch with them over there? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "A plea for peace.." Posted by Greenleaf on 11:06:37 9/23/2001 Bush said: "Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." I say, "either you're with Dunvegan or you're with the rabble- rousers. I am proud to say that I stand by Dunvegan. She has exhibited courage and calm through a blast of attacks. She is, imho, a brilliant, creative, generous, and talented lady. I have visited some of the other forums, and Dunvegan is head and shoulders above most everyone else out there. Justice Watch is the forum of record. It can only stay that way if we support the Captain of our ship. We are indeed fortunate to have such a remarkable lady as our leader. I am appalled and hurt by the criticisms from Mrs Brady and Chris Wheeler. It came from out of the blue and resonates loudly throughout the forum. If we are serious about JW being a viable medium for discourse and debate, we should rally around our hostess. We should resist the urge to personally attack our opponents. I promise that I will do better in that regard. With so little Ramsey news, there is a tendency to direct our frustrations upon each other. We must all try hard to maintain a friendly, supporting atmosphere, in which we post our thoughts and ideas. We lose our effectiveness when we pounce upon one another, and we lose all credibility when we pounce upon our leader. My message to Dunvegan is this: Stand tall in the face of adversity. This too, will pass. Your light is too bright to keep hidden for long. I, for one, love you and respect you. I appreciate all your time and effort, on behalf of the JW forum. I encourage all true JW devotees to relinquish all hostility and/or frustration, and proudly take up, once again, the mantle of justice for JonBenet Ramsey. I raise my voice in a plea for peace, as I call out to all for a general consensus in favor of a more harmonious forum. There are so many intelligent, talented, personable people on JW, many of whom I have grown to love and respect.We have lost many good posters already. So, let's join together in our support of one another and in of our support for Dunvegen May God bless us all. Rest in peace, JonBenet. This forum is about you...not us. With love and best wishes to all, Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Dear Dunvegan," Posted by LurkerXIV on 19:32:50 9/26/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:32:50, 9/26/2001 . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Lurker" Posted by Cassandra on 12:35:33 9/23/2001 I agree, and they should be ashamed of themselves for treating Mrs Brady so badly after all she has done for justice for JonBenet Ramsey. You know the place has gone to pot, if even Mrs Brady washes her hands of it. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Cassandra" Posted by LurkerXIV on 19:33:17 9/26/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 19:33:17, 9/26/2001 . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Lurker!" Posted by StCrispin on 15:13:27 9/23/2001 Great post! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "LOSING SLEEP OVER IT" Posted by Chatter on 12:48:06 9/23/2001 I don't know anything about any of this in the past, but it must be quite a job trying to handle this, causing insomnia, etc. Not answering doesn't mean not caring, necessarily. Caught in crossfires, it's hard to write speeches, I imagine. We're all feeling rather bad right now about the new war in the world also. Give us a break. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Hey cass" Posted by v_p on 12:47:16 9/23/2001 As much as you and those with whom you hang upside down would wish it to be true... this place is just fine. I don't understand why you keep coming back if you find it so distasteful. Dunvegan is a class act, something you wouldn't understand. Mrs Brady was not "trashed" here. I said something I shouldn't have to her, other than that, unless I missed it, no one flamed Mrs Brady... she decided sometime last week to take a job and leave the JBR case because she feels it's over. Yesterday's "propaganda" drama was just that, drama. Insignificant to the big picture. Six thousand people lost their lives just over a week ago and this is what you find important to rant about. Get over it or deal with it, or better yet, take it back with you to the forum of broken record. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "hehe" Posted by samantha on 18:02:33 9/23/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:02:33, 9/23/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:01:05, 9/23/2001 Obsession. Someone needs a real life. Just too funny! :) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "hoho" Posted by Ally on 06:08:30 9/24/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 06:08:30, 9/24/2001 Now, they are picking on "Cass?" (Who is Cass?) Dunvegan. Have a Safe Trip. Then come back here and kick butt. ;-) ------------------------------------------> Ally [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Dunvegan" Posted by smellthecoffee on 23:10:13 9/23/2001 Just had to add my two cents. I am comfortable here, and I can tell by the flow of conversation whether hot and heavy, or congratulatory, so are the rest. You do an outstanding job!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Lurker," Posted by Cassandra on 13:23:19 9/25/2001 You know you've stepped in something, if Pedro is cheering you on. Better wipe your shoe, and rethink your choice of companion. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Cassandra" Posted by Pedro on 13:32:20 9/25/2001 I think I stepd in something if the friends of the prostitute from CA attack me. What it was? Same for been so naive or you really believe all men are abussers? Becasue there's not a thing true in NK's accusations, she's a nutzso as you all are following her. Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Pedro ..." Posted by Mandarin on 13:54:07 9/25/2001 Well, at least we agree on something. I hated the whole NK thing and it was without a scintilla of evidence. Just someone, trying to gain their 15 minutes of fame on the wrong forum. It raised a lot of emotional nerves and it served no one as far as I am concerned. Oh well, that's life we can all have our little wars here and there. Hope it's all over and that the wounds will heal some time in the not too distant future. P.S. I, for one, do not think all men are abusers but may I say that far more are than I realized and of course, women can be extreme abusers too, which, at one time, I never paid much attention to. What a world! Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Mandarin" Posted by Pedro on 13:56:42 9/25/2001 Thank you, yes I think you are right in your post. That's why I am going to try very hard not to give reasons for them to get back here to post the words of their insane leader, NK. Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE