Justice Watch "NOTICE TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF JUSTICE WATCH" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... NOTICE TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF JUSTICE WATCH, Dunvegan, 16:54:56, 9/27/2001 Thank you, Watching you, 16:56:21, 9/27/2001, (#1) Dunvegan, Nedthan Johns, 17:03:21, 9/27/2001, (#2) Lead on Dun, RiverRat, 17:05:51, 9/27/2001, (#3) Ned...I've already re-upped the $70 for this, Dunvegan, 17:16:04, 9/27/2001, (#4) Dunvegan, Tricia, 17:22:30, 9/27/2001, (#5) Thank you, vic, 17:26:22, 9/27/2001, (#6) I, too, am grateful, Ev, 17:36:31, 9/27/2001, (#8) One last time: E-Mail Addresses for Dunvegan, Dunvegan, 17:31:09, 9/27/2001, (#7) Dun???, Mandarin, 17:48:48, 9/27/2001, (#9) Mandarin: I don't know this minute..., Dunvegan, 18:03:13, 9/27/2001, (#10) Our mail just arrived...Nothing from Michigan., Dunvegan, 18:15:27, 9/27/2001, (#11) Strange???, Mandarin, 18:31:01, 9/27/2001, (#12) No Black Backgrounds! I dislike those too..., Dunvegan, 18:35:37, 9/27/2001, (#13) Mandarin and Dun, JR, 18:55:24, 9/27/2001, (#15) Any Mail Lost 9-11 week? Fewer Flights Too., Chatter, 18:51:55, 9/27/2001, (#14) Thanks, Chatter..., Dunvegan, 18:57:17, 9/27/2001, (#16) Priority Mail, JR, 19:00:31, 9/27/2001, (#18) Gosh and Shucks, JR..., Dunvegan, 19:00:18, 9/27/2001, (#17) The Mail ..., Mandarin, 19:28:44, 9/27/2001, (#19) JR, Real Stormy, 19:37:11, 9/27/2001, (#21) Dun...., Show Me, 19:36:11, 9/27/2001, (#20) Agreed, Show Me..., Dunvegan, 20:01:29, 9/27/2001, (#22) Someone sent me a note saying I was deactivated..., Dunvegan, 20:10:56, 9/27/2001, (#23) Keep documenting, Dun, RiverRat, 20:15:40, 9/27/2001, (#24) whew, it was only 25 hours, Shee, 20:44:51, 9/27/2001, (#29) Interesting, JR, 20:22:36, 9/27/2001, (#25) Dunvegan, Real Stormy, 20:28:29, 9/27/2001, (#26) Dunvegan, Pedro, 20:38:20, 9/27/2001, (#27) Pedro ..., Mandarin, 20:45:52, 9/27/2001, (#30) Thanks, Everyone...Many Thanks - Please Help..., Dunvegan, 20:42:49, 9/27/2001, (#28) Mandarin, Real Stormy, 20:54:10, 9/27/2001, (#33) Dun, No! No!, Mandarin, 20:50:11, 9/27/2001, (#31) Mandarin, Pedro, 20:53:36, 9/27/2001, (#32) BUT ..., Mandarin, 20:59:58, 9/27/2001, (#36) Mandarin, Pedro, 21:04:26, 9/27/2001, (#38) Mandarin, RiverRat, 20:56:49, 9/27/2001, (#35) Thanks ..., Mandarin, 21:13:36, 9/27/2001, (#39) Dunvegan, Real Stormy, 20:56:06, 9/27/2001, (#34) By All Means ..., Mandarin, 21:04:06, 9/27/2001, (#37) Dunvegan, v_p, 21:14:15, 9/27/2001, (#40) Dunvegan....., Voyager, 21:17:34, 9/27/2001, (#41) I have never experienced such childish...., Voyager, 21:24:02, 9/27/2001, (#42) This forum, tamster, 21:31:16, 9/27/2001, (#44) Tamster, Pedro, 21:38:02, 9/27/2001, (#45) Dunvegan, Gemini, 21:31:02, 9/27/2001, (#43) Tamster see Voyager's, Mandarin, 21:50:18, 9/27/2001, (#48) Tamster, Real Stormy, 21:39:02, 9/27/2001, (#46) stormy, tamster, 21:47:46, 9/27/2001, (#47) Tamster, Real Stormy, 21:54:33, 9/27/2001, (#49) stormy, tamster, 22:07:13, 9/27/2001, (#51) I don't get it, Starling, 22:06:30, 9/27/2001, (#50) Starling, Geno, 22:17:51, 9/27/2001, (#60) Hi Geno, Starling, 22:30:19, 9/27/2001, (#64) :-), Geno, 22:38:25, 9/27/2001, (#67) Starling, Gemini, 22:12:28, 9/27/2001, (#56) Penguin, Pedro, 22:12:26, 9/27/2001, (#55) Oh, Starling...., Pedro, 22:13:24, 9/27/2001, (#57) starling, tamster, 22:09:50, 9/27/2001, (#53) Tamster, Real Stormy, 22:09:15, 9/27/2001, (#52) Tam, Starling, 22:16:56, 9/27/2001, (#58) stormy, tamster, 22:11:49, 9/27/2001, (#54) Pedro, Gemini, 22:20:21, 9/27/2001, (#61) Thanks, Tamster, Real Stormy, 22:17:29, 9/27/2001, (#59) Yes Gem, v_p, 22:29:26, 9/27/2001, (#63) Pedro, Starling, 22:25:24, 9/27/2001, (#62) Starling, Pedro, 07:30:20, 9/28/2001, (#79) v_p, Gemini, 22:31:28, 9/27/2001, (#65) Hey, GEM, Geno, 22:39:50, 9/27/2001, (#68) I'll second that, annelise, 22:36:14, 9/27/2001, (#66) Geno, Gemini, 23:02:48, 9/27/2001, (#71) GEM, yup, Geno, 23:14:16, 9/27/2001, (#75) yo Geno, Gemini, 23:22:52, 9/27/2001, (#78) What Is This?, Mandarin, 23:02:40, 9/27/2001, (#70) Ditto, Shamrockgirl, 22:56:24, 9/27/2001, (#69) Mandarin, Gemini, 23:08:36, 9/27/2001, (#73) Gemini, Shamrockgirl, 23:18:13, 9/27/2001, (#76) Nite All!, Mandarin, 23:06:29, 9/27/2001, (#72) Jumping To Conclusions Gem???, Mandarin, 23:20:06, 9/27/2001, (#77) ... and,, Gemini, 23:13:40, 9/27/2001, (#74) Gemini, Pedro, 07:36:09, 9/28/2001, (#80) Hello, Colorado Babe, 08:17:16, 9/28/2001, (#81) Colorado Baby, Pedro, 08:20:01, 9/28/2001, (#82) Peedro, Scully, 10:02:09, 9/28/2001, (#83) ................................................................... "NOTICE TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF JUSTICE WATCH" Posted by Dunvegan on 16:54:56 9/27/2001 If the conditions of uncivility continue here, I will close this forum for a while. There is no need for personal attacks. It is getting entirely out of hand...beyond the boundries of the "Work Out" room. Please go back and edit out unnecessary personal venom. It is obvious that there are two diametrically opposed factions fighting each other here...and bringing gallons of fuel to the fires. If and when the domain name is transfered, Justice Watch will take on an entirely new layout, and be an entirely public forum. It will be more about case content, about the Ramsey murder, and other murder cases, crime and prevention, and entirely less about member conflict. It will be broader in reach, a useful reference for anyone looking for case news, far less configured to allow small areas for slugfests, and in general a crime portal more professional than this. I am requesting of all of you that you think before you post. Otherwise, I will have no choice but to remove this increasingly barbaric forum until the new JW portal site and format is on it's new server, and configured in place. This site is under development on anothe server as a crime portal site. There will be forums, but filtered and moderated forums for discussion...not flame-wars. I will not allow this site to become a warground for antagonistic "factions" to become increasingly bitter and utterly unruly. Go to FlameSleuths if that is what you seek. Dunvegan PS: If this continues one more hour, I am prepared to take the fourm down to one fourm, The Daily...where reports on the transfer of the domain name will be posted. Any and that means ANY one causing heartburn and heartache will be immediately deleted from the membership. The new fourm will look a lot more like this: http://www.apbnews.com There will be forum areas, and ALL members will be required to register again if they wish to participate in the new portal site. Policing of malcontents shall be both automated by the filtering software that the site includes, human monitors, and myself. This is the end of this childishness. Not only will the new site restore order, it will offer resources, and news. It will be primarily a content site...and fourms will be a small part of the whole. The final word is simple: shape up. I'll begin with terminating memberships this evening if things do not improve...and if they still do not improve, I will take the site down to a single forum page by Friday. As soon as the paperwork is completed as promised by the Wheelers, I shall bring up a portal site on a new server, with entirely new software, and a completely new look. Obviously, there is a force of destruction at work here now, but I will not allow that force to gain any victories at all. [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dunvegan ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Thank you" Posted by Watching you on 16:56:21 9/27/2001 Dunvegan. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Dunvegan" Posted by Nedthan Johns on 17:03:21 9/27/2001 Now I see what you mean, I went bcak and re-read some of those posts in the WOR room. I might add, let's give this all time to cool and wait and see if you actually receive those papers in the mail. However I do understand your concern. Heck Dune. If it doesn't work out, you can start your own domain some place else. There won't be anyone here to moderate or pay the bills. You just won't own the Justice Watch name. No big deal. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Lead on Dun" Posted by RiverRat on 17:05:51 9/27/2001 You have proven yourself to the the right person at the helm as we continue on with the quest. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Ned...I've already re-upped the $70 for this" Posted by Dunvegan on 17:16:04 9/27/2001 ...domain name. And, had to do so because as of August 3rd, 2001, justicewatch.com would have been back in the Network Solutions name pool. I had Chris Wheeler's word that she wanted me to succeed and promised me any help, if I needed it, in her own home. I had the handshake of and the spoken and written word of her husband, a federal law enforcement representative, that all would be taken care of, and that the transfer of the domain name "justicewatch.com" would be transfered to David and myself. I expect the Wheelers to stand by their word, or be known by their deeds. Meanwhile, there is hateful madness going on at Flamesleuths about myself, and much of it coming from the woman I shook hands with in Michigan, with a promise to get the notarization done the second week of August. I hope Chris Wheeler doesn't think she can have me pay her domain bill, then walk away so she can have a free ride. I still hope the Wheelers honor their commitment to me regarding the domain name. Why shouldn't I expect them to honor their word? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Dunvegan" Posted by Tricia on 17:22:30 9/27/2001 YOU GO! Behind you all the way. Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Thank you" Posted by vic on 17:26:22 9/27/2001 Dunvegan, for ending the madness. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "I, too, am grateful" Posted by Ev on 17:36:31 9/27/2001 to see some sense and sensibility here! I thought the students at the middle school near our home were bad, but they are more mature than a lot of the posters who have come here to trash the place. Dun, you have my full support in anything you deem necessary to carry JW forward. I can't believe the Chris I lunched with a week before Ruthee's death is the same person I am hearing about here. I won't be checking out FS, as I have no desire to go there, so will just have to take what I hear here for factual. So sorry to hear this. Please let me know if I can help in any way. Ev [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "One last time: E-Mail Addresses for Dunvegan" Posted by Dunvegan on 17:31:09 9/27/2001 Most reliable: lamidon@pacbell.net Second address: webmaster@justicewatch.com Third address: j4jbr@aol.com [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Dun???" Posted by Mandarin on 17:48:48 9/27/2001 Are the Wheelers trying to renege on sending the papers they promised. I want YOU to own JW not Chris or anyone remotely involved in this savage attack. The torch has been passed; now I fully expect to see the paperwork passed on. Could they be stalling because of some lawsuits on the old JW that you or the rest of us have no knowledge of? Why are they going at a snail's pace and continuing to trash you at FS? Whatever, we will all see this through. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Mandarin: I don't know this minute..." Posted by Dunvegan on 18:03:13 9/27/2001 ...but, I intend to get to the bottom of this. Whatever it takes. I never start a fight...but, if someone steps in to do me or my friends damage, I'll be fierce in finishing it. I've tried to stay above this since day one. I still have Mr. Wheeler's written statement that the paperwork was on it's way. I certainly hope that it was done correctly. I have e-mails from Chris, a person whom at one time I had entire trust and admiration for, saying from a very long time ago, she was passing the domain on to me. Ergo, I paid the domain fee before I got on the plane to visit the Wheelers. I'm building, with the help of some between-assignment web people out here a very good crime portal page, with nearly a gigabite of space, and many features (like built in chat, filtered forums, and streaming video.) That is what I wanted to do with justicewatch.com. But, my perplexity at Chris Wheeler's words and deeds are incredible. Attacks against me when I'd said nothing but shining things about her. The stonewalling. The unanswered messages. The point at which only Jerry would correspond with David and I, and always in a genteel fashion. I just don't get it all...but, it's beginning to make sense. The bottom line is the paperwork. Actually, the Wheelers could go online and roll the domain to me in an instant...they own the domain. For the new owner, NS demands many proofs. Let's see what they do. I still have some patience with process. I still believe Jerry wishes to do the right thing. But, if I receive useless paperwork, we'll have this out where it belongs. There are a lot of experts in Silicon Valley, versed in this very sort of thing, who belong to the same security organizations that I belong to. Fraud would be fraud. Extrapolate the concequences...I'd be breaking my and Chris' own House Rules to go any farther. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Our mail just arrived...Nothing from Michigan." Posted by Dunvegan on 18:15:27 9/27/2001 I'm waiting. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Strange???" Posted by Mandarin on 18:31:01 9/27/2001 That Chris can post nonstop on FS and yet not put an end to this nonsense by sending the p/w ASAP. Perhaps there's method to her madness; you know, just keep em waiting. One thing Dun, with regard to your new format suggestions - I like the green and white here at JW and hope it stays the same. I've gone to other boards (never posted, just lurked) and the reason I never get attached to them is the format and ESPECIALLY black backgrounds with coloured text. It's really, really hard on the eyes. The clarity and flow of this forum is very easy on the eyes and the fingers too. One thing I'll say for you Dun, "you didn't just come into town on a turnip truck" as some might have incorrectly assumed. May the Luck of the Irish be with you and a bright rainbow at the end of the clouds and storm. P.S. I've seen many CEO's leave IBM, only to have their successors be put through "baptism by fire" by their little band of detractors faithful to the old ways. Never lasted as long as it seemed, once the dust settled. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "No Black Backgrounds! I dislike those too..." Posted by Dunvegan on 18:35:37 9/27/2001 ...I'm a big fan of light and white space. Do not worry. This will all be concluded soon. I have a beautiful site under developement...I think of the users when making decisions on how the sites work, look, feel, and how they navigate. And...I'll take suggestions when it premiers for changes and improvements. I just want to get throught this week/weekend, transfer the domain, and open the site. That is all I want. A place for JonBenet...a place for all victims...a place for all of us...a resource for those who need it...a reference for those who want it. What do I want? JUSTICE. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Mandarin and Dun" Posted by JR on 18:55:24 9/27/2001 Mandarin wrote - One thing I'll say for you Dun, "you didn't just come into town on a turnip truck" as some might have incorrectly assumed. Right Mandarin - Dun drives the turnip truck. Dun - perhaps Network Solutions would accept the posts here and at FS as proof that the intent was suppose to be transfer of ownership? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Any Mail Lost 9-11 week? Fewer Flights Too." Posted by Chatter on 18:53:34 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 18:53:34, 9/27/2001 I'm so sorry you're having such a worry. I'm in Mich., near Detroit Metro Airport, didn't hear any planes from Tues until Saturday. Something conceivably could have happened to the papers. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Thanks, Chatter..." Posted by Dunvegan on 18:57:17 9/27/2001 ...Jerry assured me yesterday in an e-mail that the paperwork was sent out Priority on the afternoon of Tuesday, the 25th. He said Chris assured him of this. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Priority Mail" Posted by JR on 19:00:31 9/27/2001 Is generally 2 days unless you are in a small town or remote area. Don't know where Cris is but SF certainly doesn't qualify as small or remote. If you don't have it tomorrow Dun, maybe Mr. Wheeler will put a tracer on it for you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Gosh and Shucks, JR..." Posted by Dunvegan on 19:00:18 9/27/2001 (dusting the turnip dust offa my overalls) Ain't that a question for all those idle legal Internet law minds ovah here in Sillicon Valley? Jus askin. I wouldn'n know about such stuff...ooops, turnips need to get to town...call gotta get made...see y'all soon! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "The Mail ..." Posted by Mandarin on 19:28:44 9/27/2001 For now, I'll give Chris the benefit of the doubt and hope they are true to their word. I just received a package from California (2 videos) here in Canada. They were late, because they have to cross the border, but strangely, they took less time than other packages I've waited on from the U.S. in the past. Still, one has to have hope, in spite of all this. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "JR" Posted by Real Stormy on 19:37:11 9/27/2001 That's an excellent point--intent. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Dun...." Posted by Show Me on 19:36:11 9/27/2001 no big deal.... if the paperwork doesn't come through. Change the name and I will join your forum, as will many posters.... the ones that don't like it can leave and go to another one they do like. It's their choice and they don't have to stay. Right? Once we get past this issue... we can go on to Justice for JonBenet and other crime victims. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Agreed, Show Me..." Posted by Dunvegan on 20:01:29 9/27/2001 I just need to tell my provider what domain name to point to the new site to...so far, they're readying www.justicewatch.com and waiting for the proof of ownership. But, if I have been defrauded...that's not right either. It doesn't take much to keep people from walking over you, sometimes. Sometimes, all you have to do is stand up. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Someone sent me a note saying I was deactivated..." Posted by Dunvegan on 20:10:56 9/27/2001 Testing...just to see if this is true. Subject: Your Justice Watch account has been deactivated Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:06:41 -0600 From: Dunvegan@JusticeforJonBenet.org To: webmaster@justicewatch.com Your Justice Watch account has been deactivated -------------------------------------------- You may reply to this email for further inquiry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Keep documenting, Dun" Posted by RiverRat on 20:15:40 9/27/2001 Wonder how something like that could happen? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "whew, it was only 25 hours" Posted by Shee on 20:44:51 9/27/2001 Yom Kippur I stayed away from the pc. I have never been to "Flamesleuths' and I don't know where it is, so I s'pose I am not as clever as those who've discovered it......I do know , if that is Jameson's site, I have been plagerized there, folks have e-d me about it and it made me mad. I would be mad if I were Dunvegan and were being defamed there. as far as this struggle goes, I could easily imagine Chris saying negative things because she is embarrassed about the money thing which she probably thought was NEVER gonna be known to anyone. I have no problem with her having had $, she worked a great deal, definately, I was not pressured and somehow never sent money. BUT she did not tell us about the costs in an upfront way, apparently....ok,ok,ok.....good people do do hokey stuff, every day. BUT she PROMISED Dunvegan....face to face.....and then procrastinated..... It went too far and Dunvegan took it public, ok, even her [dunvegan's] cool, well educated statements are angry and straining for civility..... OK now I hope the documents arrive, and that Chris just learned about how to deal with grown-ups about their money and let us go on. I am not disillusioned about Chris, I am not shocked, and I am certainly understanding the plaintive cry from Dunvegan...... but it remains a clash of the leaders, not necessary for the followers to jump into the fray. Thank you for letting us know, I hope you will start a thread if you desire counsel or assistance and for me, it's done. I truly hope to assist in the new arena. I would like to support some effort to understand 'filicide', which I think is how JonBenet really died. As a social scientist, I hope to contribute to the breadth of the site when an opportunity presents itself. Like you, Dunvegan, I have had an awful childhood....for reasons I will never fathom, some folks hereabouts jump on me every time I allude to it BUT it IS my purpose in being here and I think like minds can come together and form new ideas which are new light shed on the darkness which shrouds this crime whew....../as for whatever part ma brady played here , I still haven't found tht out. I hope we have all been inscribed for good in the coming season, I pray that the positive energies here will surround my old friend Chris, and bless her, and bring forward my new friend, Dunvegan, for the better rest of this one little girl, and all the children..... blessed be Shee [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Interesting" Posted by JR on 20:22:36 9/27/2001 This only makes the whole issue look worse IMHO. What's next, ban all of us? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Dunvegan" Posted by Real Stormy on 20:28:29 9/27/2001 Do you think it might be a good idea to call Mr. Wheeler and ask him to confirm that Chris sent you the papers. There might be something he doesn't know either. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Dunvegan" Posted by Pedro on 20:38:20 9/27/2001 They will twist anything you post, they coordinate their actions and any attempt on your part to dialoge with them will back fire against you. They try to made you look un fair and unfit, the try to made you loss your temper. Dunvegan, de-activate them all inmediately or ignore them! Do not play their game! Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Pedro ..." Posted by Mandarin on 20:45:52 9/27/2001 I think you have a good point there. No end in sight with this insanity of old warhorses. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Thanks, Everyone...Many Thanks - Please Help..." Posted by Dunvegan on 20:42:49 9/27/2001 Jerry will be advised. Please send me the posts that he should read. Personally, I cannot abide that "other" forum, and am not reading there. Send any information you may have to: lamidon@pacbell.net Everyone of you have been a blessing to me. Everyone of you are extraordinary. I owe you all a debt of gratitude. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Mandarin" Posted by Real Stormy on 20:54:10 9/27/2001 Pedro knows more about the Queens than any of us. He has been their victim ever since he married China. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "Dun, No! No!" Posted by Mandarin on 20:50:11 9/27/2001 Jeff is Chris Wheeler's husband, no. Is that what someone is suggesting you do? I think that would be a BIG MISTAKE unless of course Chris and her husband are on their way to divorce court. Imagine if someone sent Mr. Dun a batch of pages and expected him to turn against you? I don't think so Dun. Spouses stick together ... just ask the Rams. That is very bad advice someone gave you and would be feeding right into their hands. DON'T DO IT. P.S. If Jeff isn't Chris' husband, then tell me who he is. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Mandarin" Posted by Pedro on 20:53:36 9/27/2001 it depends, if dunvegan has Chris's husband word that those papers are on its way to Dun, he should be informed if the truth is other. See folks why I posted some time ago that chris was not a mature person? she nevr grow up, she acts as an spoiled kid always concern about been caught by her husband! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "BUT ..." Posted by Mandarin on 20:59:58 9/27/2001 Pedro, Dun also had his and Chris word that they would send the papers and you know he too, never bothered to call back when Dun left messages etc. Put it to you this way Pedro, would you go against China in this situation? I don't think so ... she would have a bullet in you before sundown, as any wife could tell you. Remember Pedro, "Hell hath no fury than a woman scorned" and every husband knows that. Chris would be complainin bout a headache for the next 118,000 days, know what I mean. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "Mandarin" Posted by Pedro on 21:08:19 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:08:19, 9/27/2001 They have done that to china, every day. They post about me been unfaithfull to her, having cybersex. They post about me killing her, burieng her. they post about me having my wife *slaved* what do you think are those *Free China* banners? they have call china on the phone asking her to go to chat because some people believe she was in danger and they were going to call the sheriff, Baybb called her, so China had to go chat and calm those nutszso down, people who she doesn't know and give to those strangers an explanation of why she doesn't post! They have done it to me, so, what's good for the goose is good for the gander! The difference is they post lies about me. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "Mandarin" Posted by RiverRat on 20:56:49 9/27/2001 Jerry is listed as an owner of the forum. I believe that it is Dun's responsibilty to make him aware if he is being taken for another ride. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Thanks ..." Posted by Mandarin on 21:13:36 9/27/2001 I didn't know he was the owner. But you know, if he/she/they do not answer the phone or emails, how in God's name are we to expect them to read all the posts, whatever. Pedro, re China ... I had no idea that posters got into other people's lives by phoning them up. Glad I never got too close to any of them. Actually I'm pretty good at keeping my distance when it comes to giving out my personal phone, address, etc. Twas drilled into me at a very young age. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "Dunvegan" Posted by Real Stormy on 20:56:06 9/27/2001 I think you should contact Mr. Wheeler. After all, it is he who told you the papers were in the mail and he who should be advised you didn't get them. Time is short before the plug will be pulled. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "By All Means ..." Posted by Mandarin on 21:04:06 9/27/2001 Call him or both of them, unilaterally or collectively and see if either one of them responds and then you'll save yourself all the time and effort of sending endless posts which they probably already have read. Send an email as well, after stating that you have called and left a message and expect an answer by noon, whatever. Be as professional as possible while the turnover is taking place. It's our only hope Dun. I was roped into bringing a case to a man who pretty much hated his wife (as everyone knew) and you know what, the two of them were as thick as thieves after I got roped into being the scapegoat. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Dunvegan" Posted by v_p on 21:14:15 9/27/2001 Does Chris still have webmaster passwords, rights, etc.? To me, the email you sent looks as if it actually came from JW. Whatever the answer, I'm sure Chris is behind it. Looking forward to a brand new day. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Dunvegan....." Posted by Voyager on 21:17:34 9/27/2001 Something tells me that you should not answer that e-mail! Please think about it before you do....I am wondering if it will be used as propaganda or worse! Wait and think about it... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "I have never experienced such childish...." Posted by Voyager on 21:24:02 9/27/2001 and wanton behavior as has been brandished here on this forum, and with such a dishonest and scandelous group of hurtful people lobbing stink bombs from afar....How old are these people?...never mind their chronological age...how about their mental and emotional age...really so, so disappointing, and so cruel....I am ashamed to be witnessing this.... Hang in there Dunvegan...If anything final suddenly happens with the forum tonight, you have our e-mails...we will be waiting for the forum to rise again...Voyager [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "This forum" Posted by tamster on 21:45:58 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:45:58, 9/27/2001 I must say that this forum has become a shadow of its former self. To see longtime posters banned for telling the truth, while people like Pedro, VeePee, and RealStormy are allowed to flame and flame away. It is shameful. Perhaps the fights over the forum domain name are more complicated than they seem. If this forum was placed on one of the many domains already registered by dunvegan, all of the posters would find the site within a few days. What if the real goal is to shut the forum down, using flames as an excuse, and cash in on the domain name? It is common knowledge that Chris was offered a very generous sum for the justicewatch.com domain just last year. I cannot imagine anybody allowing these hate-filled posts to continue in this manner without some other motive. Truly shameful. Edited to add: FREE CHINA!!!!!!!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Tamster" Posted by Pedro on 21:38:02 9/27/2001 Quit that crap, people here know that RS, RR and Pedro were banned and attacked for tell tht truth, those you defend, are the ones who lie and everyone knows that now! Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "Dunvegan" Posted by Gemini on 21:31:02 9/27/2001 I emailed you yesterday or the day before at the address you have linked to your name on the JW front page (dunvegan@justiceforjohbenet.org). If you didn't receive it at that address, I wonder where it might have gone. I did not get a notice to my account that it had not been delivered as I always do when an addy is incorrect. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Tamster see Voyager's" Posted by Mandarin on 21:50:18 9/27/2001 Tamster, for a very mature, articulate post, please read Voyager's post putting the whole situation into a very "easy to understand" perspective. Honestly, if I never came to ANY forum again, I would remember that one post. Voyager had absolutely no axe to grind and was able to stand back and put things in a very human way that was easy to understand. We are all human and just like CEO's in many companies, transitions are difficult. It happens every day. We ALL think things are never going to be the same. Remember your folks telling you that "things are just not the same". Well, they aren't the same and that is what change is all about. It's a bumpy road right now, a few bruised egos and a lot of rants that really don't mean anything or at least they won't mean anything about a month from now. You know I was always taught that "If it weren't for the bad days, we wouldn't enjoy the good days. We've all grown accustomed to Dun and felt that she was willing to take over JW when Chris was turning out the lights. The place has no shortage of electricity lately, but we'll get through this. It's all phsyics my dear, as they say. We all just need a place to vent because we've actually grown tired of the media saturation of the past 2 weeks re the NYC disaster with CNN's 24 hour overkill. The JW forum has ALWAYS had it's peaks and valleys when things get slow and also because posters have changes in their day to day lives. Stick around and be part of the rebuilding team like the firemen in New York. It looks like a shambles right now, but wait till you see all our collective efforts once things start to rock and roll again. Don't know about you, but this place always felt like home to me before, and I have every bit of confidence that it will be even more so once we all get through this. Honest! Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "Tamster" Posted by Real Stormy on 21:44:21 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 21:44:21, 9/27/2001 When terrorists attack unsuspecting people, one has a choice to make. It's possible, of course, to take the coward's way and just surrender. On the other hand, one can do whatever is possible to repulse them. Many of us are not cowards. Personally, I've never been into surrender. And furthermore, you, Tamster, are the shameful one. You and your destructive friends will fail. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "stormy" Posted by tamster on 21:47:46 9/27/2001 I have never flamed anyone the way that you have continued to do over the past year on the forums. You have posted so many defamatory, rude and inappropriate remarks, that I am amazed that you are even allowed here. To say that I am shameful...you are pathetic. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "Tamster" Posted by Real Stormy on 21:54:33 9/27/2001 They are sending in the lightweights tonight, aren't they? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "stormy" Posted by tamster on 22:07:13 9/27/2001 I would most certainly consider you to be an intellectual lightweight. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "I don't get it" Posted by Starling on 22:06:30 9/27/2001 So many of my friends, that are truly good people are now banned and I doubt anything any of them could have posted was more vile than Pedro talking about Baybb's coronary. Why did none here, after all the hours that lady contributed to this place, defend her? People used to be put in time out for much less than that. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 60. "Starling" Posted by Geno on 22:17:51 9/27/2001 It's truly amazing, isn't it? I don't think I've seen anything like this since the RBCP days at BNF. And agreed, BayBB is one of the few who doesn't deserve this sort of treatment. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Geno ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 64. "Hi Geno" Posted by Starling on 22:30:19 9/27/2001 I've never been more embarressed for this forum. And it's been through some rough times. Good to hear from you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 67. ":-)" Posted by Geno on 22:38:25 9/27/2001 I'll pass your kind words on to BayBB the next time I see her, Starling. ...and those of GEM as well. apparently, us oldsters aren't very welcome in these parts nowadays. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Geno ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "Starling" Posted by Gemini on 22:12:28 9/27/2001 Where is that post? I, also, have noticed that the chastizing for flames seems to be very selective. In the meantime, the topic of this thread is getting 'way off track. Dun, I read your initial post and visited the site you linked. Does this mean all forum activity will be directly related to crime once the move is completed? No more TFP or WOR? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "Penguin" Posted by Pedro on 22:15:00 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:15:00, 9/27/2001 my dear secret moderator. I did ask Baybb to take her of her health, honestly and sicerely. However, twisted minds can twist my caring words! Now have you ever read in FS, Pedro's palace, Comte's castle? Starling, you know better! After all, only those who break the rules get banned, as chris banned me, now those who fired me up are getting banned. Do you know why? because I am not lossing my temper and they are lossing theirs LOL. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "Oh, Starling...." Posted by Pedro on 22:13:24 9/27/2001 ...before I forget it, I may save you some time! FREE CHINA! RFLOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "starling" Posted by tamster on 22:09:50 9/27/2001 I defended Baybb against the Pissboy's vile post. Please read the rest of the thread in the WOR. Nobody deserves to be treated the way that Baybb was treated today by Pedro. And he knows it. FREE CHINA!!!!!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Tamster" Posted by Real Stormy on 22:10:07 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:10:07, 9/27/2001 ....Yawn...Is that the best you can do? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 58. "Tam" Posted by Starling on 22:16:56 9/27/2001 Thank you for taking up for her. I haven't spoken to her in ages, but I know good and well she didn't deserve that. But you know when they let dogs in, their gonna get fleas. And fleas bite. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "stormy" Posted by tamster on 22:11:49 9/27/2001 Obviously, I am not as adept at flaming as you are, which I find to be rather honorable. And the lightweight comment was actually a compliment to me. I didn't know that you knew how thin I am. In fact, since I am a size 2, I'll think of you when I indulge on a KrispyKreme donut tomorrow, just in your honor. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 61. "Pedro" Posted by Gemini on 22:36:10 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:36:10, 9/27/2001 I have no doubt you've been given some grief ... a lot of forum folk have gone through stuff like that at one time or another over the past few years. You say "ignore them" ... then you don't ... you just keep posting back and baiting. After awhile it starts to appear excessive and obsessive. BayBB has long been one of the few very fair minded and gracious members of several forums. It does not matter who her friends are ... she does not deserve side-swipes. (lol ... stuff stUff STUFF : ) ) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 59. "Thanks, Tamster" Posted by Real Stormy on 22:17:29 9/27/2001 That's very kind of you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 63. "Yes Gem" Posted by v_p on 22:29:26 9/27/2001 I appreciated her advice when I was new and went in to chat. Baybb told me to be very careful who I pissed off... of course that's not the sort of advice I've ever been able to follow, but it seemed to work for a lot of members and thus, produced an atmosphere of "civility" on the forum for a few years. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 62. "Pedro" Posted by Starling on 22:35:49 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:35:49, 9/27/2001 Put a sock in it. You've caused enough trouble around here. And while I'm at it - cut the crap about the Penguin. I did my job and I did it as best as I could. I was fair and noone ever complained about me. Can you say that? Didn't think so. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 79. "Starling" Posted by Pedro on 07:30:20 9/28/2001 Nobody could have complain against you, NOBODY knew you were a MODERATOR! Pedro [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 65. "v_p" Posted by Gemini on 22:31:28 9/27/2001 In almost 5 years, I've never been careful of who I piss off ... just call 'em as I see 'em and seldom hold grudges. BayBB is one of the best. Hi Geno [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 68. "Hey, GEM" Posted by Geno on 22:39:50 9/27/2001 watta mess? eh? :-( [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 66. "I'll second that" Posted by annelise on 22:36:14 9/27/2001 Gemini...wait, Baybb is not one of the best...she is the best! A true class act! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 71. "Geno" Posted by Gemini on 23:02:48 9/27/2001 and a :~( from me, back atcha. I think maybe I was doing a little hoping and 'way too much assuming about this transition being smooth and painless. The reality is, no one promised the forum would continue it's long tradition. No one said the format and software would stay the same. Life goes on. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 75. "GEM, yup" Posted by Geno on 23:14:16 9/27/2001 I was hoping for the best, but feared the worst once I saw that doctored pic of Patsy Ramsey a week or so back. Still and all, it was a good run and I've not regretted any time or money contributed to this place dating back to my time with Dan & David (it's Trevino, btw). I've had my share of conflicts with Chris and others over the past few years, but somehow this all seems dirtier and uglier than before. I guess I've just gotten too old or something... Take care and stay in touch. 'bye all [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Geno ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 78. "yo Geno" Posted by Gemini on 23:22:52 9/27/2001 Will do. ((hugs)) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 70. "What Is This?" Posted by Mandarin on 23:02:40 9/27/2001 Have to say that I really don't know everyone enough to go back eons. You know after reading the last 10 posts I get the impression you've all been waiting to come in here at the last minute and throw firecrackers as you kiss each other to death. Whoever posted "BURN BABY JW", or whatever seemed to be a poster that was HOPING BEYOND BELIEF that the JW forum would burn down to the ground. Such vengeful thinking; is this kind of like a Ben Ladin attack, where the old leader stays behind the scenes in a cave, while the bats come out at the last minute in the dead of night. A lot of people come and go and I for one, will come and go and honestly could not be expected to keep track of all the hats that have come and gone. I hardly ever ventured into the War Room before because quite frankly I'm not as quick witted as many posters. Lots of times, when the JB news is slow, I expect that and then I go and lurk through the book section, the jokes, whatever. I'm conmfortable here, even in spite of all the adversity going on. Must be a full moon out these past few days! Somehow I just know, that in spite of what a lot of posters are saying, they'll still be here, long after the transition takes place. Like me, they are addicted to this site. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 69. "Ditto" Posted by Shamrockgirl on 23:07:54 9/27/2001 NOTE: This message was last edited 23:07:54, 9/27/2001 Annalese, geno, tam and Gemini, good to see you all here, even if it's occasionally. Opps and I forgot some are now "banned". Why some can get away with saying horrid things about baybb and other and NOT get banned, and some come to those persons defense they are then banned? DOES NOT COMPUTE, DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!!! Opps guess logic dosen't apply. Baybb is a class act.... Edited because I forgot to thank Starling.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 73. "Mandarin" Posted by Gemini on 23:08:36 9/27/2001 Shamrockgirl (pati) is a long time JW member. I seriously doubt she's glad about all the turmoil ... probably just sad like some of the rest of us. JW has some terrific current, active members, but some of the old hats have been great to know, too. Don't jump to the conclusion that old hats are enemies. They have been just as caring and concerned as many of you are now ... sometimes more so. Tradition is an important part of any culture. Change isn't always a bad thing, but, I think, disrespect of tradition is foolish. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 76. "Gemini" Posted by Shamrockgirl on 23:18:13 9/27/2001 Thank you. The rush to ban people in particular some of the older members of JW is amazing. Much has been said over the years good and bad. Seems you have any diagreement with the "powers that be" here and they ban you. Just seems that they are banning only the ones they don't agree with. If you are one of their "favorites" you can say any mean and disgusting thing you want and you get to stay. That is censorship and that is truly frightening. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 72. "Nite All!" Posted by Mandarin on 23:06:29 9/27/2001 I'm off to the Arms of Morpheus ... Seems I may get in the way of the recent love fest. T.G.I.F. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 77. "Jumping To Conclusions Gem???" Posted by Mandarin on 23:20:06 9/27/2001 Gosh Gem you have a way of twisting my words and I don't want to get into this. But I never mentioned anyone's name and I think my post specified that I just don't have the time to remember soooo many hats. People seem to be separating themselves along party lines. I'm adapting, like everyone else to the changes here and I'm smart enough to know that transitions are never smooth. I wouldn't expect them to be. I'm just looking forward to a day when this is all over because it's getting really tiring. If you asked me tomorrow who said what, I couldn't for the life of me remember who said what and I think that a lot of posters get too close to each other in the first place. I'm sure you'll relate to one of my Mum's favourite sayings, admonishing me when I would gush over my teenage friends, you know "Familiarity breeds contempt". And she was right then and somehow I can still hear those words as I read through the various posts no matter what side anyone is on, was on or will be in the future. YOU, on the other hand, I always remember, for both good and not so good reasons. We've had our little tiffs, but I hate to hold grudges, as I'm sure you do. Nite to you and your family ... and this time I mean it. Regards, Mandarin [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 74. "... and," Posted by Gemini on 23:13:40 9/27/2001 a lot of ghosts walk these halls. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Gemini ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 80. "Gemini" Posted by Pedro on 07:36:09 9/28/2001 For one time, you are CLUELESS and I have always respected you until now. However, gemini, I am begining to dislike your spineless attitude! These people don't contribute to JW but to stir the shit and hurt other, when is the last time you see them around? Come on Gemini, you're position is getting old! To rthe chat buddies, Starling, Baybb, Geno, Pati...Baybb broke the rules, I didn't. I had a caring comment for Baybb's health if you twist my words, that's your problem, not mine. This is getting boried, I am going to play golf for the day! Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 81. "Hello" Posted by Colorado Babe on 08:17:16 9/28/2001 How old are you people? Do you know what you sound like when someone reads your posts? You all need to get a life...Pedro..I don't know you and don't want to hurt your feelings but you really need to stop this bickering back and forth and get down to the business of JonBenet. This is a JBR website and not grade school. To be quite honest with you I really don't want to hear this nonsense. Please take it to your chat room or somewhere else. I really don't think Dunvegan appreciates reading this and either does anybody else. As I recall you were banned before and I would think you would have learned a lesson by now. So, please stop the insanity. DUNVEGAN...This is just a thought...What if you started a whole new forum from scratch? I bet everyone would be willing to throw in a few bucks. This way, we won't have to put up with Chris's nonsense and we could start over fresh and clean. What does everybody else think? I am willing to send you the $70.00 that you kicked in for this site and $25.00 for the new site. Your Friend, Colorado Babe [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 82. "Colorado Baby" Posted by Pedro on 08:20:01 9/28/2001 I have learned the lesson, reason why I haven't been banned now, and they have! Now get your facts streight! Dunvegan knows who's who. Bye. Pedro. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 83. "Peedro" Posted by Scully on 10:02:09 9/28/2001 Geno and Baybb have more class in their big toes than the combined total of your Spanish descendants dating back to the inquisition of 1492 or thereabouts. Over the years, Geno contributed his vast computer knowledge to a long line of various forum owners, and both Geno and Baybb will always be remembered for the genuine warmth, kindness and hospitality they extended to almost everybody who ever joined them in chat. I can vouch for that because I was once on the receiving end of that hospitality. They were once loyal and devoted members of these forums from the early days of the JBR case but chose to move on for their own personal reasons. Your derogatory remarks so cruelly aimed at them are reckless and not at all appreciated. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE