Justice Watch Support JW "Wednesday, JonBenét, Day #1379" [ Main ] [ Post New Thread ] [ Help ] [ Search ] Table of Contents ................................................................... Wednesday, JonBenét, Day #1379, NightOwl, 21:45:28, 10/03/2000 Missing, DrTee, 21:51:23, 10/03/2000, (#1) Lacey, Phone Home!, Paralegal, 22:02:13, 10/03/2000, (#2) Pssssst..., rico, 22:14:02, 10/03/2000, (#3) To Lacey..., ibnora, 22:16:08, 10/03/2000, (#4) MIA--thoughtful posters, Cher, 03:22:57, 10/04/2000, (#6) Good morning. And Cher., Holly, 06:10:37, 10/04/2000, (#11) Cher, Chris, 05:52:37, 10/04/2000, (#10) Lacey, Sylvia, 03:18:08, 10/04/2000, (#5) LACEY, Twitch, 04:32:36, 10/04/2000, (#7) Cher, your post , Gram, 05:15:45, 10/04/2000, (#8) If that is the case,, Sylvia, 05:47:40, 10/04/2000, (#9) Yikes!, Slinky, 06:14:41, 10/04/2000, (#12) Cher, Morgan, 06:46:29, 10/04/2000, (#15) HELP!, 1000Sparks, 06:45:22, 10/04/2000, (#14) Happy Wednesday everyone!, Msracoon, 06:40:49, 10/04/2000, (#13) HOLY MOSES! I think I'm lost., Twitch, 07:16:47, 10/04/2000, (#17) Ahem, Twitch....., Slinky, 07:58:26, 10/04/2000, (#23) Well Slinky,, Twitch, 09:29:42, 10/04/2000, (#32) No Name storm worse than Hurricane Irene 1999, Cassandra, 07:04:46, 10/04/2000, (#16) Cassie., Holly, 07:47:36, 10/04/2000, (#22) Cassie, RiverRat, 07:42:17, 10/04/2000, (#21) Thank you, Ms. Racoon..., Dunvegan, 07:24:07, 10/04/2000, (#18) Arrest in 26 year old case, sabrina, 07:40:37, 10/04/2000, (#20) Now Sparkles ... Take a few, Slinky, 07:35:21, 10/04/2000, (#19) slinky,, LurkerXIV, 09:26:18, 10/04/2000, (#29) Meow!, 7kluz, 08:16:17, 10/04/2000, (#25) Good day, everyone, summerhill, 08:09:11, 10/04/2000, (#24) Cassie.., szundi, 08:43:22, 10/04/2000, (#27) Cass, river rat, and other Fl's, ayelean, 08:37:52, 10/04/2000, (#26) Jesu, ayelean, Watching you, 08:51:04, 10/04/2000, (#28) Top o' the morning to you all!, Ginja, 09:34:12, 10/04/2000, (#33) No rain yet today!, Cassandra, 09:29:26, 10/04/2000, (#31) Cassie, Florida, 09:26:37, 10/04/2000, (#30) Weather watch, Gemini, 10:11:07, 10/04/2000, (#37) Florida..., LurkerXIV, 09:57:34, 10/04/2000, (#36) ms.racoon, digby, 09:51:02, 10/04/2000, (#35) personal info, not insults, fly, 09:48:53, 10/04/2000, (#34) hmmmmm...., Scully, 10:18:22, 10/04/2000, (#38) Bravo Scully, Gemini, 10:49:28, 10/04/2000, (#40) Gem,, LurkerXIV, 11:00:32, 10/04/2000, (#41) Who was it, Watching you, 10:31:25, 10/04/2000, (#39) This baloney really has to stop, Ginja, 11:16:34, 10/04/2000, (#44) Ginja,, LurkerXIV, 12:08:01, 10/04/2000, (#49) A truckful of alligators overturned!, Cassandra, 11:10:19, 10/04/2000, (#43) Cass,, LurkerXIV, 12:09:15, 10/04/2000, (#50) Anybody here remember a little girl?, MJenn, 11:06:37, 10/04/2000, (#42) Don't miss Sabrina's polygraph tidbits thread!, Cassandra, 11:28:09, 10/04/2000, (#45) I haven't posted in a while, ericasf, 11:50:31, 10/04/2000, (#46) Never anymore Erica, Sylvia, 12:00:18, 10/04/2000, (#48) Public Figures, v_p, 11:54:54, 10/04/2000, (#47) For the small foreign faction, rico, 13:01:14, 10/04/2000, (#57) Real Life, Brightlight, 12:19:21, 10/04/2000, (#52) Lurker XIV, Teague, 12:19:04, 10/04/2000, (#51) Right On!, Brightlight, 12:23:05, 10/04/2000, (#53) Come On People Now, eedayspa, 12:41:02, 10/04/2000, (#54) NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE!!, Slinky, 12:49:32, 10/04/2000, (#55) Gem, Erica, all, DrTee, 12:56:18, 10/04/2000, (#56) ................................................................... "Wednesday, JonBenét, Day #1379" Posted by NightOwl on 21:45:28 10/03/2000 Good Morning! New ~ JusticeWatch Chat Room http://members.tripod.com/~JustDropIn/chat.htm or come to IRC #JusticeWatch on NewNet Justice Watch House Rules http://www.justicewatch.com/registration.htm MrsBrady is back!!! http://www.holoworld.com/mrsbrady/ Cybersleuths Breaking Crime News http://63.249.207.18/current.html CrimeNews2000 True Crime and Criminal Justice News Stories http://www.crimenews2000.com ToppCat's JonBenét Internet Search http://www.holoworld.com/ramsey/index.html Ken Polzin's JonBenét Case Links http://www.execpc.com/~kopolzin/jbramsey.html Redd Herring's JonBenét Case Primer http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/6502/primer/primer_cover.html [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Missing" Posted by DrTee on 21:51:23 10/03/2000 Lacey [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Lacey, Phone Home!" Posted by Paralegal on 22:02:13 10/03/2000 Missing you...Ah gee, Chris, can't she come out to play YET????? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Pssssst..." Posted by rico on 22:21:08 10/03/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:21:08, 10/03/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 22:15:21, 10/03/2000 Lacey....2PM tomorrow...excercise yard. Sending a UFO to spring you out. Till then, don't drop the soap in the shower! Love rico P.S. Did you get the snickers bar and steel file? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "To Lacey..." Posted by ibnora on 22:16:08 10/03/2000 with love from ibnoras (not to be confused with ibnora). Counting the minutes until your return. Your friend, ibnoras [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "MIA--thoughtful posters" Posted by Cher on 03:22:57 10/04/2000 Ridiculous. Has it gone unnoticed that numerous posters are missing? People who have been with this forum a long time and whose posts have added much to the quality and diversity of the discussion here? Could it be that the ugly scene this person Lacey started might have something to do with their absence? (which I hope is only temporary.) Furthermore, just the fact that she put Chris in the position of having to take such an action is appalling. We all know how Chris dislikes the position of moderator. Out of respect for her alone, the poster should have kept her mouth shut. If it really bothered her that much, she could have voiced her opinions or confrontation in an email to Mame, just for starters. The issue may or may not have been legitimate but the poster did not have the interpersonal communication abilities to confront Mame in a fashion that fostered intelligent or constructive discussion. That is a demonstrated fact. This poster has in the past made many cruel and hurtful remarks to other posters. I will not discuss them but I can tell you that from behind the scenes, those remarks hurt people's feelings. Is that what we come here for? To be the recipient of judgments about who we are or how we live our lives? I think not. The "I miss Lacey" remarks are nauseating, IMO, and reflect a lack of understanding about the damage this poster has done to human relationships on this forum. Cher . [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "Good morning. And Cher." Posted by Holly on 06:10:37 10/04/2000 Emailing specific questions, comments or concerns that might cause an uproar on the forum, is prolly a good idea. Sometimes I look for the addie on a post and send an email. Once or twice, if I if I didn't see one, I asked Chris to forward an email for me. If any poster is really comfortable with the rest of us knowing personal information, like their real name, please start a thread. Posters who see no problem with sharing info can go right ahead and share, thereby proving they have the courage of their convictions. For the record you can email me at holly1565@yahoo.com. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Cher" Posted by Chris on 05:52:37 10/04/2000 Thank You! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Lacey" Posted by Sylvia on 03:18:08 10/04/2000 Miss you like hell. No fun without you!!! Sylvia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "LACEY" Posted by Twitch on 04:32:36 10/04/2000 Can't wait til you are back. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Cher, your post " Posted by Gram on 05:15:45 10/04/2000 "The "I miss Lacey" remarks are nauseating, IMO, and reflect a lack of understanding about the damage this poster has done to human relationships on this forum" This is a very judgemental statement. It is obvious you dislike Lacey but please don't lecture us on what we choose to post in support of Lacey. From what I have observed, Lacey alone cannot be blamed for damage on this forum. There are others who are guilty of "stirring up the hornet's nest" Chris is a big girl. As moderator of this forum, she handles it all, good and bad. I don't think she needs you to defend her from forum posters. Gram [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "If that is the case," Posted by Sylvia on 05:52:47 10/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 05:52:47, 10/04/2000 write me out, I no longer wish to be part of a forum that discriminates, slander and libel innocent people, and a bunch of old idiots, who think they know it all. So all of you just go and play with mame, holly and the rest of the slanderers. You have no idea how disgusting you are! Goodbye [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Yikes!" Posted by Slinky on 06:14:41 10/04/2000 Looks like I picked one heck of a day to come home. Hmmmmm.... methinks me won't tell China to Bite Me today..... looks like there's enough of that already going on here. What DID I miss??? So much reading to catch up on ... so little time.... So, I'll just say, have a Wednesday folks! Slinky [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Cher" Posted by Morgan on 06:46:29 10/04/2000 Wonderful post. I have no doubt that you speak for numerous JW members who no longer post thanks to bullies like Lacey and her fan club. Thoughtful and constructive discussions involving scores of insightful participants used to be the standard at JW. Lately, witty, malicious banter has taken hold. I'm hoping things will change. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "HELP!" Posted by 1000Sparks on 06:45:22 10/04/2000 What happened to the Tuesday thread? I asked about Lacey and come back this a.m. to find the thread missing/deleted? I can't believe people get in such an uproar over comments made by someone they don't even know. Sticks and stones???? Well, if someone out there in space who I only know on these forum posts can disrupt my life, I think I better start thinking of getting a life, a REAL one. The others that are gone??? Were they banned or did they leave? Lacey, Lacey you are needed here! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Happy Wednesday everyone!" Posted by Msracoon on 06:40:49 10/04/2000 This is the day the Lord has made, LET US REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT!!! Do something nice for someone and don't tell them you did it. In fact, don't tell ANYONE you did something nice for someone. Now, think I'll heed my own suggestion!!!!!!!! Love to all and to all a sweet Wednesday! Love, Ms.Rac. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "HOLY MOSES! I think I'm lost." Posted by Twitch on 07:16:47 10/04/2000 The work out room is thadda way, right? Can we have one positive thread to start the day? I'm sorry some of you don't like Lacey but some of us do. There are a lot of posters here that I do not like. Plain and simple. But will I tell them? No. There are plenty of posters here who don't like me. Will they tell me? I hope the hell not. I'm very sensitive so I know which threads to avoid. We're here to fight for jfjb. Will this case ever be prosecuted? I think there is as good a chance of that as Lacey and Mame becoming best girl friends. Sans miracle - ain't gonna happen. And by the way, this post does not require a tit for its tat. Slinky, its good to have you back. I would try to convince myself that my pleading had something to do with your return, but I know you are here to proctect Sailor from that man stealing Wy! haha [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Ahem, Twitch....." Posted by Slinky on 07:58:26 10/04/2000 Err ... ummm .... Ahem, I'm sorry, Twitch, but I won't part with my t!ts for anybody's tats. ...... And Tweetie says, tats tat said the puddy tat. LOL ... Don't feel bad, Twitch; I have no idea what I'm talking about either! Of course, you keeping a rocking chair at the ready for me on the Front Porch had something to do with my coming back! Actually, you're a real sweetheart, Twitch, to even have missed me. Thank You for being so sweet and so thoughtful. :-) I just had something that I had to attend to that required 100% of my attention. So, no time to post or even read this past week and a half. So, just whaddya think about that WY after my Sailer like that the minute my back is turned, eh Twitch?? ...... Although, at this point, I'm not quite sure if I need to protect the Sailer, or if he's off purposely chasing after her! ... Hmmmmmm.... Maybe Sailer doesn't want protecting?... Hmmmmm..... I'd also like to say a great big Thank You to Voyager also. Voyager, I just finished reading some of the older threads that I need to catch up on reading, and saw your comments Re: Chile oil, and all the other lovely things you said in your post. Those were such sweet things you said, and I'm very glad that you were able to find something amongst my tinkering in the kitchen that was enjoyable for you and your family. I'm honored that you would even think of trying one of the oils for such an important occasion. I hope you and your guests enjoyed it. Slinky [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Well Slinky," Posted by Twitch on 09:29:42 10/04/2000 that's the thing...it made perfect sense to me and was funny too. :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "No Name storm worse than Hurricane Irene 1999" Posted by Cassandra on 07:04:46 10/04/2000 The water is standing at the end of our driveway and we are on the high end of the street. The lake is out and was VERY high on our backyard. The hibiscus bushes and trees are little islands. Mr C called when he got to work to let me know he arrived safely, and told me to look out back. Wow! Schools are closed today. Yesterday Mr C saw people running into each other to avoid the water, cars stranded, a nightmare of traffic. We had tornado warnings all over the place. On TV people were being interviewed in their cars with the water high INSIDE the cars. We have laundry buckets in Mr C's closet and bathroom. Had to empty them twice last night. We've got his clothes, shoes, luggage, etc. all over the place upstairs. Hope whatever brews in the Caribbean and Gulf stay the hell away from here! I guess the Coot and Iguana families had to seek refuge in our backyard last night. Hope they're ok. The people at the end of our street must need a rowboat inside their houses, if it's standing in the street up here on the high end. Just glad we're on the high bank side of the lake. Everybody have a great day, and be glad you don't have roof leaks or water inside your house! Or NO house like some of those people in the Caribbean. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Cassie." Posted by Holly on 07:47:36 10/04/2000 I'm watching developments on the Weather Channel. At first there was this curious absence of hurricanes, but I think the season will just be later than usual. At least you still have electricity. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Cassie" Posted by RiverRat on 07:42:17 10/04/2000 How does it look so far today? A couple of my crews are trying to work in Dade County, but the past two days have put them out of commission and as of late yesterday it was almost impossible for them to use their cell phones. Wasn't it you just the other day mentioning the fact that your next house will not be a 2-story?! This is Florida, we FLOOD! Keep the Good Stuff up High! Ha! Are you sure that storm has no name? Aren't we up to the "L"'s?! Here's to everyone standing their ground. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Thank you, Ms. Racoon..." Posted by Dunvegan on 07:24:07 10/04/2000 ...for the good, solid positive energy there...thank you for the wise advice! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Arrest in 26 year old case" Posted by sabrina on 07:46:17 10/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 07:46:17, 10/04/2000 Found this article through C/S, very interesting domestic homicides with an arrest,finally, after 26 years. I sure hope we don't have to wait 26 years for the Ramsey case to be resolved! http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/missing001003.html [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Now Sparkles ... Take a few" Posted by Slinky on 07:35:21 10/04/2000 deep breaths, girl! Get hold of yourself! .... Heh, NO NOT THERE!! LOL We really don't want you to have to go out and get a life, Sparky. I'll save you from that desperation today, Sparks. Your "Tuesday Thread" has only been archived. It didn't disappear. Here's the link for it, Spark. http://www.justicewatch.com/jw/jonbenet/309.html There! ... Do you feel all better now, Sparky? :-) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "slinky," Posted by LurkerXIV on 09:26:18 10/04/2000 Thanks for pointing us to Tuesday's thread. I notice it has been duly sanitized with the removal of all of my posts. Censorship is alive and well in this place! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "Meow!" Posted by 7kluz on 08:16:17 10/04/2000 Good Morning, youse guys. It is so sad...all of the fighting. Love and Hugs to all! JFJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "Good day, everyone" Posted by summerhill on 08:09:11 10/04/2000 Best wishes for a great Wednesday! Hang in there Cassie! :) JfJBR [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "Cassie.." Posted by szundi on 08:43:22 10/04/2000 ...reading your post reminded me of the floods we had last year in New Jersey. I was OK but the surrounding area was not to be believed. I have never before seen water so high--up to the second story in many places. The town of Bound Brook is still trying to recover. Be careful and here's hoping that the water recedes and you don't have to evacuate. seashell---still keeping you enveloped in white light Got an e-mail from Ginja today. Seems there is someone who has an e-mail addy called Ginja 48 (or 98, I forgot which)@ hotmail. Anyway, this person has been writing some nasty stuff on other forums and people think it is our Ginja. How sad. She only found out about it because someone told her about the posts and their content--which she doesn't understand. I only post here--so if you see szundi posts on any other forum, it ain't me. Bright Blessings, szundi [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Cass, river rat, and other Fl's" Posted by ayelean on 08:37:52 10/04/2000 You have been in my thoughts all night. Now it's moving into our area in Central Fl, but with a lot less moisture, thank heavens. Terrible news out of Ravenna, Ohio (near my home town) about the murder and ceasarian section of a woman to steal her baby. Police closed in on a suspect only to hear gun shots and find a suicide. The baby safe and sleeping, its mother's body butchered in the garage. What evil there is in this world. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Jesu, ayelean" Posted by Watching you on 08:51:04 10/04/2000 I saw that - that was sickening. I'm in a mood today, so I guess I won't post. Again. Except to tell Slinky that I don't know nuthing about that Sailer person. He didn't come see me last night. He has not fallen madly in love with me. I have not cast my spell upon his hairy self. And, I can't find Lacey, either. You don't suppose Lacey and Sailer ... nah.. I'll send him home, though, if he's still there when I get home, okay, Slink? Hay, sparky, nice critters. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Top o' the morning to you all!" Posted by Ginja on 09:34:12 10/04/2000 This here's the REAL Ginja speaking...also known as Ginjasnap, Ginjasnaps, and Ginjasnapusa. I'm still catching up on all my emails. One of them was a link to Greenleaf's site with an absolutely fantastic story, written by our Greenie, about Lucille White, whose husband contracted her murder. Of course, I'm weeks late on this, so you probably have all read it...probably even posted about it. "Just in case" you missed it though, I highly recommend it to everyone. Riveting, chilling, unbelievable! If you haven't read this story, I highly recommend you get your hineys over to Greenie's site today. One last note...I saw Paralegal's post from yesterday in the "lost faith" thread. Imagine that! BOTH of us planning on going to law school. Justice Watch will never be the same! LOL Have a great day everyone! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "No rain yet today!" Posted by Cassandra on 09:29:26 10/04/2000 And, it's a good thing the Corps of Engineers had lowered the canals here already when they expected heavy rains. The Coot family is out and strolling around wondering what the hell happened to their nest down in the lake bank. The trees that are usually on top of the bank are way out in the water. I don't want to go out there and look because I don't want to disturb the wildlife. My Seagrape tree is way out there. No sign of the Iguana family yet. They could be up in the Umbrella tree. I just hope the water has a chance to drain before the rains start again. I don't know if the airport has re-opened or not. The ducks are enjoying themselves. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Cassie" Posted by Florida on 09:26:37 10/04/2000 Sorry you got the storm but glad you are okay. We were warned Monday night that we were going to have massive flooding and to prepare for it. Looks like a front held the storm down and sent it eastward to you. Hopefully it will head out to sea. We're supposed to have rain and cool (75-80 degrees) weather this weekend. Fall weather - don't you just love it? Looking for Lacey in all the wrong places.... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "Weather watch" Posted by Gemini on 10:11:07 10/04/2000 Nothing's changed here, yet ... still warm and sunny and gorgeous. Need to get me to a weather forecast and see whether we're going to get any side effects from those storms. Still haven't changed out the closets - warm weather clothes for cool weather clothes. Always dread doing that, and usually, the winters aren't bad enough for REAL winter gear anyway (knock on wood). Add me to the folks who don't think Lacey's posts justified a time-out. Mud balls aren't such a much. I didn't pick up on any personal information ... but, of course, I wasn't looking for it. There were worse posts on that thread. DrTee? Are you saying someone is giving out personal info in chat??? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Florida..." Posted by LurkerXIV on 09:57:34 10/04/2000 ...you can find Lacey here: http://www.cybersleuths.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001758.html Her explanation of why she was ousted is here. It's too bad that Lacey cannot speak in selfdefense here on JW where the event in question occurred. Now everyone is left with the impression that Lacey posted holly's personal information. This IS NOT TRUE. Just look at fly's post below! Already the "spin" is in, making Lacey out to be a villain. fly assumes the worst. Since the coverup has begun, and the revisionists are hard at work, what can one do but try to counteract the falsehoods? First, they slandered Fleet White. Now they are slandering individual posters. Who will be next? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "ms.racoon" Posted by digby on 09:51:02 10/04/2000 Thankyou for your message. May we all read and take part. What a better way to start a day! Snow and icy roads this morning. It's quite heavy wet snow, like Vancouver snow, so it won't stay long here in Alberta. We usually get light, fluffy snow. Roads are treacherous--semis jack-knifed, cars in the ditch, major roads closed. Winter is on the way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "personal info, not insults" Posted by fly on 09:48:53 10/04/2000 I believe from what Chris posted yesterday and what Holly posted today, that Lacey is being punished for posting somebody's personal information, not for any insults or hateful she lobbed toward anybody. If that is the case, then she deserves her period of time out. That is much more serious an offense, IMO, than unnecessary insults, and Chris was right to act. I hope Lacey can return to JW soon. Chris did say time-out, not permanently banned, I think. Lacey may be a brat at times, but at least there's some creativity included - something that most other people's insults tend to lack. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "hmmmmm...." Posted by Scully on 10:18:22 10/04/2000 Can't all of the posters just return to the forum, wipe the slate clean and start all over again? Maybe add a few new rules? Otherwise this forum isn't going to las much longer. People leaving in droves and so many injured feelings, misunderstandings, distortions of the truth, and I sense that many of you would be crushed if Chris were to pull the plug on the forum. Revealing personal information about another poster, whether it be their name, where they work, where they live is wrong. Let bygones be bygones and return to the forum with a fresh perspective. Lacey has thrown many spitballs my way, but I lived through it. Hopefully, she isn't banned forever.....she has been on the JBR forums from the very beginning. Why wasn't she given permission to post a goodbye thread? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Bravo Scully" Posted by Gemini on 10:49:28 10/04/2000 You hit on some of the things that have occurred to me in the past few minutes. I've been dodging those muddy spit balls for ... well ... can't ever remember NOT getting a few. But, Lacey never really goes for the throat ... might bruise the ego for a few minutes, but no serious damage. I don't agree with posting RT info either. Just didn't pick up on it ... probably because RT names, etc., don't really interest me ... learned a long time ago that mixing real life with cyber time can cause problems (learned the hard way). No matter whether some sensitivities have been stepped on, the bottom line is that JW is Chris's forum and the moderation/operation decisions are hers to make. It's not a lot of fun to have those calls. In fact, running a forum AT ALL can be a major pain in the tush. Chris could decide to pull the plug, join one of the other JBR forums and save herself a lot of headaches. Well now, i don't know about the rest of you, but I'd hate to see that happen. This is a good forum with a lot of good people. i'll admit that when the BNF folks took over J-7 and changed it to JW, I had dark forebodings. But, the changes I expected to see didn't happen. Chris was (imo) the best choice for sysop. She's almost always been fair and diplomatic. I wonder whether any of the rest of us could do as well. We all have our prejudices. Could we apply as even a hand as Chris has for over 2 years? Nobody's perfect. Even Chris is human ... tho it seems she has to make god-like judgement calls sometimes. She does not ask us to worship her, or start adulation threads to stroke her ego. In fact, she's tolerated some pretty harsh criticism over the past couple of months, and still left the door open to a lot of grumbling members who've been running back and forth between JW and CS. So, if we're going to be fair, I think it's important to recognize the good along with the things we disagree with, and lend some support to this forum so many of us call home. There are always going to be small forum factions ... no matter where you post. Cyber-cliques were in evidence long before 1996. In most cases, the tough, independent posters will survive. The people who are needy and put a lot of importance in being "popular" and running with a flock will have more trouble. None of us have to be groupies to enjoy and support JW ... just be willing to offer the same degree of tolerance we'd like to recieve. (jumping off soapbox and heading for the door - napster's down and I'm gonna go find out why) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 41. "Gem," Posted by LurkerXIV on 11:00:32 10/04/2000 Well-said. I would hate to see the demise of yet another JBR board. Only those who wish to evade the long arm of the law in the murder of this baby would want to see free expression stifled in the discussion of the case. In view of that fact, and in deference to your wisdom, I will refrain from further discussion of the current unpleasantness. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Who was it" Posted by Watching you on 10:32:41 10/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 10:32:41, 10/04/2000 that Gem person, who said yesterday, I think, in so many words, that posters judge other posters on one issue upon which they disagree and that defines the other posters' complete characters. Much as I hate to, I mumble, mumble, sort of, mumble, agree with Gemini, but not on everthing, you hear, Gem? There really have been a lot of bad feelings here in the past few months, in many cases not without good reason (maybe on both sides), but while we disagree on issues, it is as that Scully person just said - if we cannot agree to disagree without killing each other and revealing personal information, then this forum really is not going to survive. With that thought in mind, maybe we could look beyond the disagreements to the real people sitting behind these computer screens and realize none of us is perfect. We are feeling human beings who bleed when we are cut. Get past your personal prejudices and try to ferret out the good in those other posters. It's there, if we all just humble ourselves a little and say, hey pal, I think you are full of shit, but you are entitled to be full of shit, just like I am, and if you do it again, I'll knock your block off. No, I didn't mean that, yes I did. Anyways, you know what I'm saying. Tho, thu me. I'm going on strike until Lacey comes back. Holly, I really still don't know your last name - I would not have figured it out from Lacey's post. But, hey, that's just me. Yo, scully. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 44. "This baloney really has to stop" Posted by Ginja on 11:16:34 10/04/2000 I've been offline for some weeks now. When I finally blasted in this past Sunday, the first thread that caught my eye, and a response, had to do with Mame. What I posted in that thread seems to apply to all the chit that's going on here and at CS: Why are we here? To bash each other? To push each other against a wall? Demean, inflate, humiliate, lie? This baloney of attacking the poster, not the posts, really has got to end. I've always believed that JW was THE forum of merit and intelligent discussion. I've noticed, and please...I'm not really pointing fingers, just pointing out what I've noticed...is that these "attackers" are all over the internet, diddy-bobbin' from one forum to the next, wreaking havoc and doing their best to put a wedge between case discussion and abuse...with abuse/attack appearing to win out. I've always wondered how posters could come here, partake in case discussion, and then move on to the next forum and partake in the same discussion, and then on to another to see how others are partaking in the same discussion, blah blah blah. Where do these people get all the time? Does it have something to do with the need to be heard on every single forum? What then happens is a total lull in the case where there's no action. So what happens to the discussion? It turns to posters. So now we've got posters going to one forum to attack a forum or its members, then moving on to the next forum to continue in the attack mode -- either against the same posters and forum, or to revise their attack to suit the posters and forum of the second forum, and so on and so on. Is anyone beginning to see what's happening here? It's pluperfectly clear to me. Maybe because I've been offline. Perhaps some of you are too involved or too close to the sources to see this picture. These rabble rousers need to get a life. And the rest of us have to realize that that's exactly what they are: rabble rousers. Bored with their own lives, they immerse themselves in case. And when there's a lull in the case, they turn their efforts on each other. We've lost a lot of intelligent thinkers because of this childish, immature new wave of posters who only feel comfortable in an abuse mode. They take away from our real purpose in coming together. Unfortunately, we've all fallen for them hook, line and sinker. My best suggestion is that those of us who are really concerned with only one issue, JfJBR, stick to one forum. I mean c'mon...this is the one anyone who is anyone in the investigation stops in to check. So what's the need or purpose in hightailing it all over the internet to say the same thing over and over? Seriously, if you belong to a group, say NOW for the sake of discussion, do you go to your local meeting, discuss issues, make plans, and then go to the next town a partake in their meetings and discussions, and then on to the next state to see what's happening there? It doesn't make sense to me. Never did. Chris has pulled together something very special here. I intend to take full advantage of it at all times. Those who really care for the real cause, will stay put and take advantage as well. Those who aren't as dedicated will run off to another forum and attack me for posting this...then they'll move on to attack Chris, attack other JW posters and so on. My response is...so what? Let them! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 49. "Ginja," Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:08:01 10/04/2000 The reason I have had to go to Cybersleuths to speak out is because my posts in defense of Lacey were being censored here. What happened to you? You used to be such a strong advocate of truth and justice. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 43. "A truckful of alligators overturned!" Posted by Cassandra on 11:10:19 10/04/2000 Now there's something you don't see every day! State of Emergency in South Florida. People are being asked to stay in. Schools closed. Many without power and in flooded houses and neighborhoods. Cars, buses, trucks (including a Fla Power & Light truck) stranded in deep water. Gov Bush here. He was flying over area with Mayor. Every now and then it gets overcast and we eye the skies with suspicion. We know more rain is coming soon... I want to know what was up with that truckload of alligators. Talk about being up to your as* in alligators! Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 50. "Cass," Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:09:15 10/04/2000 That truckload of alligators has surfaced at JW. They are chewing up the scenery! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 42. "Anybody here remember a little girl?" Posted by MJenn on 11:06:37 10/04/2000 Her name was JonBenet. She was beaten, molested and murdered. She was only six years old. The DA's Office that was supposed to advocate for justice for her has sold her down the river. We have an opportunity to do something about that. All you have to do is copy the letter to Janet Reno on the "I have lost faith..." thread. Sign your name under mine and mail it to any or all of the addresses posted on that thread, with perhaps a little note if you feel like it. Send a few emails. Short ones, to cable news shows or "Rivera" or "LKL." If each person made 10 contacts, 100 people could made 1000 contacts. This is real, Justice Watchers. I may not have any clout here. I may not be best friends with any of you. You may not like me, and I may not know as much as all of you. But I wrote a letter so we would have a chance to out the snakes who have buried this case from the beginning. If I mentioned something in there you don't like, like that Fleet White put his butt on the line, then just delete that part. Or write your own letter. The main thing is that all the posters who profess to be here for justice for JonBenet speak out NOW. We need an avalanche, not a trickle. Trip DeMuth is now working for the Ramsey's longtime cohort and counsel Mike Bynum. THAT IS WRONG!! If you ignore this opportunity, it won't come again, I promise you. This may be our last, best chance. Or perhaps you'd rather fight over who said what to whom, when and how? In which case, it's no longer about JonBenet, it's just about us. Could that be why people are leaving? I immplore you, please send those letters and emails. IT MATTERS. DO THIS FOR JONBENET. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 45. "Don't miss Sabrina's polygraph tidbits thread!" Posted by Cassandra on 11:28:09 10/04/2000 It's quite interesting. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 46. "I haven't posted in a while" Posted by ericasf on 11:50:31 10/04/2000 but i can't take it any longer. When my mother first joined the forum, she raved about how wonderful each and every one of you were. I thought how wonderful it was that she had found such a wonderful group of people. But could you imagine getting bashed by your friends on a regular basis like people get bashed here at JW? And Chris, I have to say, nothing is done about it except for you banning people who speak their mind. That is wrong. Ban me. I'm sure I will be banned after this. SO be it. People like Lacey, and myself for that matter, may have said things that others may not have liked but there shouldn't be a discrimination on what one person has to say as opposed to what another has to say. It seems favoritism is playing a huge part. Now let me make sure that my mother is not dragged down because she has nothing to do with what I say here. This is ridiculous. This is like a dictatorship. You can only say what the "moderator" likes and if you say something that she is not too fond of, then see ya! You are outta here!!!!!!!!! The worst thing is that the actions that are taken (banning, etc) are never explained. It's a superiority complex here. JFJBR. That is long gone now because of all the crap that has gone on here. When was the last time it was discussed???? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 48. "Never anymore Erica" Posted by Sylvia on 12:00:18 10/04/2000 THEY ARE TOO BUSY BASHING AND SLANDERING MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT WITNESS IN THE CASE, FLEET WHITE. THIS IS NO LONGER ABOUT JUSTICE FOR JONBENET, BUT WHO CAN PLAY BOSS. WELL THE RAMS ARE GONNA BE GRATEFULL FOR WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SLANDERING OF WITNESSES!!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 47. "Public Figures" Posted by v_p on 11:54:54 10/04/2000 Gwen Boykin became one when??? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 57. "For the small foreign faction" Posted by rico on 13:01:14 10/04/2000 Morgan, you sure have a short memory. You and your wrecking crew have spewed the most slow-witted, vulgar insults ever on this forum towards anyone who ever had the courage to challenge the insane allegations made my mame and her supporters. Your "reasonable discourse" to me consisted of saying I was "a plant with ulterior motives". And for what? Because some posters ask for FACTS, EVIDENCE, SUBSTANTIATION? Truth is the best members of this forum quit posting long ago when everytime they questioned the posters with "most favored status" about slanderous trash THEY were attacked. Ibnora's thread was a legitimate and courteous response to allegations made (yet again) by mame. No intelligent response, just.."oh look how nasty and mean-spirited they are". What crap!! Many posters here believe that all POV's should be welcome; their not punching the alert button. Diversity of opinion and case discussion is what Justice Watch is suppose to be isn't it? Or has it now become a small clique with the hypocrisy to think the rest are going to toe the line on some bs double standard. No wonder CS's rolls keep growing. Try this approach: Let me post some outlandish allegations about NK and her suspicious history, say possible drug abuse, time in juvy/jail, false charges, therapy paid by others she turned on, pretending she's hiding when she stays in touch with family, questioning LH's involvement and even AH. And I'll conveniently disregard any factual content, evidence, or substantiation. Bet Holly, mame, morgan, and the rest of the FW bashers would descend on me like locusts demanding ...what? The same honesty, truth and evidence ibnora, lacey and others have called for. Sure, paint Lacey and the rest of us as spoilers, flamers, inconsiderate, whatever, but the archives tell a different story. Controversy, heated threads, disagreement and the like don't make for a bad forum...it's what gives it viability. But then again maybe you and your 'minions' are just looking for your own little social clique. Jams has already laid claim to that niche but I guess there is always room for another. But thank you Morgan for your banal comments; least we know what the agenda is at the crockery forum. JfJBR rico [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 52. "Real Life" Posted by Brightlight on 12:19:21 10/04/2000 Please don't miss the Front Porch thread To All Members Of JW posted by Lillie, mother of a murdered eleven year old daughter AND mother of two deceased sons, ages nine and twenty one years old. Lillie's web page is at: http://www.justicewatch.com/kathryn/kathryn_mary.html Reading Lillie's page puts things in perspective real quick. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 51. "Lurker XIV" Posted by Teague on 12:19:04 10/04/2000 Thank you. You've got guts. You've got ethics. I like that combination. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 53. "Right On!" Posted by Brightlight on 12:23:05 10/04/2000 What Lurker XIV said. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 54. "Come On People Now" Posted by eedayspa on 12:41:02 10/04/2000 ......Smile On Your Brother... Two Bumper Stickers of the Day for JW: eedayspa [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 55. "NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD PLEASE!!" Posted by Slinky on 12:49:32 10/04/2000 Oooops, eeday, I missed your post when I moved the others over to the new thread. I'll take yours over now..... Please continue posting on the Wednesday, Part 2 thread now. THANK YOU!! Slinky [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 56. "Gem, Erica, all" Posted by DrTee on 12:57:37 10/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 12:57:37, 10/04/2000 Gem, no, I'm not saying someone is giving out personal information in chat. I am saying that it took a lot of guidance to explain to most of us what post was the offensive one, and why it was offensive. People who didn't already know the poster's name still don't know it. And most of us don't care. Erica, I disagree strongly with you about Chris's handling of the forum. She is not at all heavy-handed about it. I've seen plenty of people who should have been banned and weren't. And she certainly has allowed a variety of opinions to be expressed here. That's why this action with Lacey is so surprising to me. I think it's much ado about nothing. Edited to add it's good to see the Slinkster and I wish we hadn't scared off Nikki with our bad manners. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]