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Armistead resigned, what triggered this event?, Sylvia, 03:59:52, 6/29/2000 Sylvia, momo, 04:17:46, 6/29/2000, (#1) Momo, Sylvia, 08:00:03, 6/29/2000, (#6) Seems, momo, 08:05:20, 6/29/2000, (#7) Saving face, pinker, 04:34:39, 6/29/2000, (#2) Wonder, momo, 04:45:22, 6/29/2000, (#3) Armistead is in Singular's book, Holly, 05:28:04, 6/29/2000, (#4) I rode to a funeral (100 miles away)yesterday..., Dr. Who, 05:39:00, 6/29/2000, (#5) WHY, New York Lawyer, 13:38:39, 6/29/2000, (#8) Besides...., Dianne E., 14:01:03, 6/29/2000, (#9) NYL..., shadow, 14:04:49, 6/29/2000, (#10) My guess, Gemini, 16:24:33, 6/29/2000, (#11) Gemini, Sylvia, 02:51:39, 6/30/2000, (#17) I think that whole weekend was , pinker, 16:33:25, 6/29/2000, (#12) Pinker, Ribaldone, 16:56:54, 6/29/2000, (#14) But...., La Contessa, 16:55:36, 6/29/2000, (#13) My guess is...., Jeanilou, 19:06:19, 6/29/2000, (#15) Well..., Sioux, 21:09:43, 6/29/2000, (#16) Jeanilou, Sylvia, 03:23:27, 6/30/2000, (#18) Sylvia..., Dr. Who, 05:11:51, 6/30/2000, (#19) Dr. Who, Sylvia, 09:16:44, 6/30/2000, (#20) In my opinion, Seeker, 09:27:21, 6/30/2000, (#21) I wonder what a private investigator's, fiddler, 10:44:15, 6/30/2000, (#22) ................................................................... "Armistead resigned, what triggered this event?" Posted by Sylvia on 03:59:52 6/29/2000 On june 3rd, Armistead resigned from team Rams. Reason given "Events taking place in the media"! The events that took place in the media on that particular moment were, the polygraph and the interview on LKL with Steve Thomas. Only to my best of knowledge the Rams have always taken their case in to the media from week one, instead of cooperating with the police. So that's not something new! So what triggered Armistead to resign, is it to be found in the transcrips of both events? What was it exactly that made him decide to resign. Anyone has any idea about it? [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "Sylvia" Posted by momo on 04:17:46 6/29/2000 I believe that Armistead was hired by Haddon and Co. They have also been nowhere to be found. I think that the Rams have gone against the wishes of those they have hired. Even hired hands can't hang in there if their clients won't follow instructions. I'm sure in no uncertain terms the Rams have been told that they need to stay out of sight. Since that grand jury investigation, the rams have gone on a "publicity tour" in order to push their book. Then they set out to prove their innocence through LD tests. Then ST's book came out. They had the LK slingfest with Steve. I think that Armistead said "Enough is enough". I believe in my heart that he knows them to be guilty. Someone else had this to say on a thread a few days ago. If you've gotten away with murder after 3 1/2 years then keep your trap shut! My God, what does it take to get that through your heads! You've had your way! Quit going on and on about it! Leave well enough alone! I personally hope they continue until they incriminate themselves! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Momo" Posted by Sylvia on 08:00:03 6/29/2000 I agree with you, also hope they will give away more and more each time they speak, untill at last someone is willing to throw then in jail where they belong. It's just that I did wonder indeed, what triggered the resignation, for he is used to see them in the media, so that wasn't it, I think personally that something happened in the interview that made him change his mind on them. Was it the stupid remark, that they needed to speak to the police, because their detectives (even 500H detective) had questions and evidence. Also don't get it that Haddon is out of the picture. However that might save them from embarishment in the end. Seems to me this Lawyer they now have is on a solo ego trip, getting high fast and coming down real hard to the ground in some short period from now! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Seems" Posted by momo on 08:05:20 6/29/2000 Lin Wood hopped on a runaway train when he hitched a ride on the Rams coat tails. He better get off before it either derails or crashes. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "Saving face" Posted by pinker on 04:34:39 6/29/2000 In the interview JR makes reference to their team or whatever (remember the number is top secret) of investigators and spews about the progress they have made complete with new evidence. He even goes to 'volunteer'(althought we learn later an invitation had alreday been issued) to meet in Boulder with authorities and his investigators. How could Armistead represent itself at any sort of meeting and maintain any professional dignity? The only evidence the Ramsey's were to bring forward were the lame polygraphs. Armistead knew that wasn't evidence. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Wonder" Posted by momo on 04:45:22 6/29/2000 I wonder what day in June the Rams came out with "Sketchman"? It just hit me that Armistead must have been totally embarassed by the sketchman release. He was probably humiliated to say the least. If I were a top investigator in a high profile murder case for the defense I would quit too! It just gets downright silly after awhile. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Armistead is in Singular's book" Posted by Holly on 05:28:04 6/29/2000 and portrayed as very quiet and with excellent skills. Between his own idiot employees and Colfax crime scene evidence tamperer, Geddes, the polygraphs and Sketchman, EA prolly had all he could take. Another thought is that maybe Haddon has pulled out. It seems he did not like whatever the Ramseys were doing that was in the media. The Salvation Tour was not a help either. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "I rode to a funeral (100 miles away)yesterday..." Posted by Dr. Who on 09:51:33 6/29/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:51:33, 6/29/2000 with a disbarred criminal defense attorney.He was in the company of four of us and we were all common friends of the deceased. He loved to tell how he would keep challenging the evidence, having what he could get thrown out...keep chipping away at it and when he thought he had gotten key evidence suppressed, attack the prosecution in court (and in the media)by saying their evidence is too weak to attain the reasonable doubt standard. His favorite judge that he liked to try and get cases assigned to was recently disbarred for *improperly* handling a couple of old ladies trust funds to *finance* his ranch and fleet of cars. Apparently this particular judge *liked* creative defense briefs... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "WHY" Posted by New York Lawyer on 13:38:39 6/29/2000 The reason the Ramsey chief investigator quit is pretty obvious: What legitimate P.I. wants to be associated with an "investigation" in which a DEAD psychic is a focal point? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Besides...." Posted by Dianne E. on 14:01:03 6/29/2000 ..how long can any sane person put up with Team Jameson? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ EMAIL Dianne E. ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "NYL..." Posted by shadow on 14:04:49 6/29/2000 :-} Well put!!!! shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "My guess" Posted by Gemini on 16:24:33 6/29/2000 to the thread title question: Lin Wood [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Gemini" Posted by Sylvia on 02:51:39 6/30/2000 You got right to the point there, agree with you!! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "I think that whole weekend was " Posted by pinker on 16:33:25 6/29/2000 like a big ole fat pimple popping. We have the interview where the Ramsey's couldn't shut up but really told us nothing, we have the fiasco of the fabricated polygraph evidence, and then they topped it off with a public unveiling of sketchman. Whew, how exhausting. Now we just have to wait for that hot red boil to burst when Lou Smit throughs in the towel. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Pinker" Posted by Ribaldone on 16:56:54 6/29/2000 Ewwwwww. Nasty. LOL [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "But...." Posted by La Contessa on 16:55:36 6/29/2000 If Team Ramsey quits, who will accompany John and Patsy on their sitdown with the BPD after Lin Wood returns from vacation in July??? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "My guess is...." Posted by Jeanilou on 19:06:19 6/29/2000 My guess is that Armistead resigned because the Ramseys are spouting off about "sharing" evidence and he knows there is NO evidence to say. All the evidence has been found by BPD, and points right at the Ramseys. Even the shady stuff, like the degraded DNA is going to turn to be useless to either team. The footprint could have been left by anyone at anytime, again useless to anyone, the rope and duct tape, gone. And if the remaining duct tape and rope was on the picture Aunt Pam carted away, you can bet is tucked away, never to be seen again. The palm print, again who knows when it got there, so useless. All the "clues" Ramseys talk about are 50/50 either way, but mostly I think they are going to be useless if the case ever goes to trial. The only valid piece of evidence is the ransom note and Patsy CANNOT BE ELIMINATED AS THE WRITER. 24 OUT OF 26 OF THE CHARACTERS OF THE ALPHABET MATCH HER! Armistead knows the Ramseys have NOTHING that points to an intruder. IF they did, they would be SCREAMING it from the rooftops. And he is not about to sit on on a meeting to discuss evidence that does not exist. Smart man, in my opinion. Jeani Copyright 2000 by Jeanilou [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Well..." Posted by Sioux on 21:09:43 6/29/2000 good question, but, : When in the middle of the sea, a ship has an incipient fire that not even the the brightest sailor has noticed, the silly ones KNOW that something is wrong when THE RATS make a jump to the sea. So.....Let the DA , Police and such keep looking for "a case". We know what is going on:Not even rats like to be BURNED by such an embarrasing company. Sioux [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Jeanilou" Posted by Sylvia on 03:23:27 6/30/2000 Also think that is the case, no evidence what so ever. They are playing bluff poker and are not very good in it. Let's face it they are an open book, a book you already read and know from how the ending will be. Also makes me think Woody is in charge, not the Rams. Woody is on an ego trip and the landing will be a total crash. Leaves me with the following question: Why make such a fuss over Steve Thomas book, while Hodges and Wecht wrote about the same, pointing back to an inside job. So why only attack Steve Thomas? Could it be, because it blew their deal with Hunter? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "Sylvia..." Posted by Dr. Who on 05:11:51 6/30/2000 I think Steve Thomas being a lowly cop is why he was selected uh, became focus of the attack- the others are *with portfolio* so to speak. Maybe it could be said he poses the highest *risk* to them because being the former lead investigator that implies he knows the real deal...? (Anyway)I believe Steve Thomas writes well, talks eloquently and in my opinion I think it would be a serious miscalculation for the ramseys/attorney wood to believe they can swing a civil jury 51/49%. A judge is not going to let attorney wood or JR shout ST down everytime he attempts to speak like JR attempted on LKL...I must add I'm not a good handicapper lol ;-)... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Dr. Who" Posted by Sylvia on 09:17:45 6/30/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:17:45, 6/30/2000 That is what makes it such a stupid decision, to me, to attack him. They or their lawyer must know, that he indeed has/had access to all information available, unknown to us, to be able to tackle them in court. They are supposed to be so bright, if so, they must understand that he will use everything he knows against them in court in order to prove he is right and consequently indict them with the murder. So attacking him would be the most stupid thing to do. I am rather sure, he hasn't given away all information he has on the case, as he surely would not want the case to be blown. He would leave most information on evidence available out of the book and only spill what has already been spilled for years. In a way he is just confirming the Vanity Fair article and all other rumours that had already been out there for quite some time. Even if they would dare to take the risk of going to court, they must most surely understand that he would also be using PR stupid remarks about him on the LKL show: "No it's not all Steve Thomas's fault, You, it is not all this young man's fault. He did had not have good leadership in his department, etc., etc". So what is driving them? Can't figure that one out, unless there would be indeed be such a thing as "unconsciously" wanting to be found guilty, wanting to confess in some way, to come clean. Which would lead me right back to Hodges book. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "In my opinion" Posted by Seeker on 09:30:12 6/30/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 09:30:12, 6/30/2000 the ONLY reason they are attacking Steve Thomas is because he is not politically connected, not rich, and not on the force anymore. He's been very outspoken about Hunter's deliberate sabotage of the case and obstruction of justice thereby showing the world that AH is in the Ramsey's pocket. Let's face it folks. AH has been on the Ramsey's team for the entire time. Let them sue Steve Thomas! I dare them to go through with their empty threat. I'd love to be there when it happens!!!! Armistead knows it's time to get the hell out of Dodge. He's made his money off the Ramsey's. He doesn't want to risk his political career, now does he? All attorney's (at least the ones I've known) have political aspirations. First to become a judge, then to get into congress and move up from there. Just my opinion, not that it means much... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "I wonder what a private investigator's" Posted by fiddler on 10:44:15 6/30/2000 responsibility is, if he/she unearths evidence that implicates the clients? If Armistead was hired by Haddon, he'd have to turn all his stuff over to the lawyer, and not say anything about it, because of attorney-client privilege. But I doubt any reputable, intelligent P.I. would particularly want to continue on such a case--especially one involving a bludgeoned, strangled six-year-old. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ]