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Yellow Bird & Prayers, jerryz, 09:58:51, 8/03/2000 yellowbird, mame, 10:02:51, 8/03/2000, (#1) I, too,, Seashell, 10:11:46, 8/03/2000, (#2) Yellow Bird, Greenleaf, 10:26:08, 8/03/2000, (#3) Yellowbird and JerryZ..., Voyager, 10:57:10, 8/03/2000, (#8) Aw, YellowBird, Chris, 10:29:09, 8/03/2000, (#4) Jerry and Yellow Bird, Ginja, 10:35:01, 8/03/2000, (#5) Hope Yellowbird feels better soon., Cassandra, 10:52:18, 8/03/2000, (#6) Yellow Bird, Pretzel, 10:52:50, 8/03/2000, (#7) I'm so sorry, darby, 11:08:44, 8/03/2000, (#11) Jerry and Yellowbird, , starry, 11:08:04, 8/03/2000, (#10) Yellowbird and Jerryz, ericasf, 15:25:22, 8/03/2000, (#21) Oh no..., Holly, 11:05:40, 8/03/2000, (#9) Prayers and hugs..., Country Girl, 11:21:45, 8/03/2000, (#12) Dear Yellow Bird,, LurkerXIV, 12:03:15, 8/03/2000, (#13) Jerryz & Yellow Bird..., shadow, 14:18:19, 8/03/2000, (#14) Yellowbird, momo, 14:40:06, 8/03/2000, (#15) Dear Yellowbird, Legalbeagle, 14:53:13, 8/03/2000, (#16) Yellowbird, maxi, 15:22:43, 8/03/2000, (#20) Prayers, v_p, 15:15:37, 8/03/2000, (#18) Yellow Bird, FT, 15:11:59, 8/03/2000, (#17) so sorry, fly, 15:19:47, 8/03/2000, (#19) Healing thoughts...and thinking of you..., Dunvegan, 16:19:10, 8/03/2000, (#22) Jerryz and Yellow Bird....., mee too, 16:59:32, 8/03/2000, (#23) I am lighting a candle , Tricia, 17:05:13, 8/03/2000, (#24) JerryZ, Morgan, 17:31:40, 8/03/2000, (#25) Yellowbird, Chart, 19:30:31, 8/03/2000, (#26) from Canada...., canadiana, 19:35:31, 8/03/2000, (#27) Prayers for you both, freebird, 20:21:59, 8/03/2000, (#28) jerryz and yellowbird..., PegB, 21:26:06, 8/03/2000, (#31) Prayers for you, Yellow Bird , mary99, 21:10:15, 8/03/2000, (#29) Yellowbird, lilac, 21:55:55, 8/03/2000, (#32) Prayers and healing thoughts, Slinky, 21:20:19, 8/03/2000, (#30) Thank you, Yellow Bird, 02:41:24, 8/04/2000, (#33) YB, Holly, 05:22:28, 8/04/2000, (#34) My thoughts and prayers are with, sherryf135, 06:04:12, 8/04/2000, (#35) Yellowbird, Policedog, 06:11:47, 8/04/2000, (#36) YellowBird Update, jerryz, 15:39:54, 8/04/2000, (#37) A touch, Coolteach, 15:47:26, 8/04/2000, (#38) Yellow Bird, ToppCat, 16:17:35, 8/05/2000, (#39) Yellowbird..., Jellyjaws, 18:49:11, 8/05/2000, (#40) ................................................................... "Yellow Bird & Prayers" Posted by jerryz on 09:58:51 8/03/2000 Justice Watch Friends - Yellow Bird needs your prayers. She would never ask because she'd not want to impose on any of you. That's the way she is. So I'll ask for her. This person, who is beautiful in every way, has suffered for years from a malady known as Trigeminal Neuralgia. For those of you who are unaware, the trigeminal nerve travels from the base of the brain up through the face in roughly a triangular pattern. Sometimes blood vessels in the area press against the nerve, resulting in a TN attack. The TN attack results in excruciating facial pain and lasts for a half an hour or so. There is no predicting the onslaught of an attack. But when they come, the pain is horrific. I have cried at times when she's been in so much pain. Various medications have helped only minimally over the years. In September of 1998 she had an operation which totally cured her of the pain--until about four weeks ago. The attacks started again, slowly and initially with only a little pain. Then they increased both in number and intensity. On Sunday she had four such attacks, most during the night. The doctor put her back on medication Tuesday, but her body is reacting negatively to the medication. She was nauseated and nearly passed out at work today. I went to her work to pick her up, bring her home, and put her to bed. I don't know what the solution will be. She may have to undergo the operation again. Time will tell. In the meantime, will you join with me in prayer and ask Our Father to lessen her pain and give her the strength to withstand what is sent her way. Oh how I wish the pain were mine and not hers. She is such a loving, caring, and kind person. Thank you for your indulgence. Jerry [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 1. "yellowbird" Posted by mame on 10:02:51 8/03/2000 i am with you all the way girl! i send you my healing thoughts and prayers...with large doses of love. i can't write it in a limerick...but, please know i'm here. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 2. "I, too," Posted by Seashell on 10:11:46 8/03/2000 Send Yellow Bird healing prayers. I'm too sad to write a lim right now but I know that our forum prayers will heal you, girl. Without you our lims won't erick very well. Come back soon. Thanks, jerryz, for letting us all know. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 3. "Yellow Bird" Posted by Greenleaf on 10:26:08 8/03/2000 My thoughts and prayers are with you this day. I really believe in the power of prayer, and you have friends here, at JW, who will be praying for you. With love and best wishes, Greenleaf [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 8. "Yellowbird and JerryZ..." Posted by Voyager on 10:57:10 8/03/2000 Because of my medical research involving my own tumor and how it affects the facial nerves, I came accross information on your condition. The pain from this condition is described as some of the worst pain known to man. My heart and prayers go out to you, and my hopes that you are able to find a solution soon. If you care to research your condition further on the net, there may be some new treatments or solutions of which your current physcian is not aware. I went to Pub Med (it is a public medical information directory on the web which gives all sorts of research and treatment information and access to sites involving any medical condition). Just put this in a search engine and once at the site, just enter the name of your condition and it will take you to all sorts of current information. This is how I started and found the Johns Hopkins site where I eventually found my treatment of choice. My Drs. here knew nothing about the treatment I found and finally chose, they only knew to recommend the surgical route. Please do some research....I do not know for sure, but maybe Johns Hopkins has a treatment for this condition as well....try their site first....they are wonderful there and so progressive. All the best to you Yellowbird, you and JerryZ will be in my thoughts and prayers. Voyager [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 4. "Aw, YellowBird" Posted by Chris on 10:29:09 8/03/2000 If there is absolutely anything under the sun I can do to ease your pain I will do it. Such a beautiful, dignified and graceful lady...imagine a thousand hugs coming across the computer right now. Thanks for letting us know, jerryz. Please don't hesitate to email me if there is anything I can do. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 5. "Jerry and Yellow Bird" Posted by Ginja on 10:35:01 8/03/2000 I'm praying! And if there's ANYTHING I can do, or this forum can do, please, please let us know! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 6. "Hope Yellowbird feels better soon." Posted by Cassandra on 10:52:18 8/03/2000 Good wishes to her and to you, Jerry. Your love for Yellowbird came through so clearly it brought tears to my eyes. Hope she is her old self soon. Cassie [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 7. "Yellow Bird" Posted by Pretzel on 10:52:50 8/03/2000 Many prayers, thoughts, and lots of hugs from all of us. Pretzel [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 11. "I'm so sorry" Posted by darby on 11:08:44 8/03/2000 I knew someone else with this condition, and it was horrific. Why this type of thing has to happen to anyone has always escaped my understanding. Yellow Bird--I wish all good things for you, and I hope this pain passes with no need for further surgery. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 10. "Jerry and Yellowbird, " Posted by starry on 11:08:04 8/03/2000 my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'm really unhappy knowing that this sweet woman is in pain. Chris, you summed YellowBird perfectly. A lovely woman. Jer, give her a hug from me, OK? [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 21. "Yellowbird and Jerryz" Posted by ericasf on 15:25:22 8/03/2000 My thoughts and prayers are with you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 9. "Oh no..." Posted by Holly on 11:05:40 8/03/2000 I adore Yellowbird. What a bummer. I have her in my thoughts and prayers. You know where to find me if you need anything. Don't hesitate to call. Holly [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 12. "Prayers and hugs..." Posted by Country Girl on 11:21:45 8/03/2000 Coming your way. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 13. "Dear Yellow Bird," Posted by LurkerXIV on 12:03:15 8/03/2000 I am so sad to think of you in such pain. I hope the meds can be adjusted so as not to make you so sick. Be assured of many Memorares for you and Jerry. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 14. "Jerryz & Yellow Bird..." Posted by shadow on 14:18:19 8/03/2000 You have my prayers. And a wish for a quick recovery! shadow [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 15. "Yellowbird" Posted by momo on 14:40:06 8/03/2000 My thoughts and prayers are with you. You are such a beautiful lady. It was a pleasure to meet you and Jerry. You make such a lovely couple. May God heal you of your pain. (((hugs))) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 16. "Dear Yellowbird" Posted by Legalbeagle on 14:53:13 8/03/2000 I am so sorry you are ill and certainly my prayers are with you for a quick and complete recovery. legalbeagle [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 20. "Yellowbird" Posted by maxi on 15:22:43 8/03/2000 I'm so sorry you are having this awful pain again. My husband had trigeminal neuralgia many years ago, and the pain was so horrible it sent him to the emergency room. He was put on painkillers and tegretol. I imagine you have been that route, since you had to have surgery. Over the months he had trigeminal neuralgia, my husband began to get a sort of "aura" it was about to hit, and he developed a few tactics which sometimes staved it off. One was to apply heat to the area, particularly if his face had been in a cold wind (which seemed to set it off). The other was to eat popcorn when the "uh-oh!" feeling came over him. Something about the motion of chewing the popcorn often stopped the attack before it started. It sounds as if your neuralgia is far worse and more persistant than my husband's was, but maybe there is still some alternative to more surgery. I don't know if the medical technology has changed over the years, but the surgery that was available at that time involved severing the facial nerves with consequent loss of sensation. Maybe there are online support groups for people with the same condition. Hang in there. We are holding you in the Light. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 18. "Prayers" Posted by v_p on 15:15:37 8/03/2000 for you yellowbird... [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 17. "Yellow Bird" Posted by FT on 15:11:59 8/03/2000 I'm very sorry to hear of your pain and suffering. I wonder if the new migraine medications known as "triptans" could provide some relief? They work by constricting and inhibiting trigeminal perivascular nerve terminals, and are also believed to act centrally in the brainstem, blocking the transmission of pain. Some brand names currently available are Imitrex and Maxalt. Best of luck to you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 19. "so sorry" Posted by fly on 15:19:47 8/03/2000 jerryz - I'm so sorry to hear she's having such trouble. I hope that a solution is found quickly. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 22. "Healing thoughts...and thinking of you..." Posted by Dunvegan on 16:19:10 8/03/2000 ...and peace and wellness...take care, YellowBird. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 23. "Jerryz and Yellow Bird....." Posted by mee too on 16:59:32 8/03/2000 Golden Healing light and Love being sent your way......Mee [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 24. "I am lighting a candle " Posted by Tricia on 17:06:16 8/03/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 17:06:16, 8/03/2000 for you Yellow Bird. Don't hesitate to call on all of your friends and loved ones in you time of need. Please keep us posted. Take Care Tricia [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 25. "JerryZ" Posted by Morgan on 17:31:40 8/03/2000 Having met you and Yellowbird and found you to be delightful people, I'm so sorry to hear that this affliction is in a crisis stage. Hopefully the worst is past. I recommend a web site which addresses many health issues: http://www.sensiblehealth.com [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 26. "Yellowbird" Posted by Chart on 19:30:31 8/03/2000 You will be in my prayers. I hope you find immediate relief from this unbearable pain. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 27. "from Canada...." Posted by canadiana on 19:35:31 8/03/2000 thinking of you. Take care. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 28. "Prayers for you both" Posted by freebird on 20:21:59 8/03/2000 I will also light a candle for you and send up prayers for your healing and relief from your pain. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 31. "jerryz and yellowbird..." Posted by PegB on 21:26:06 8/03/2000 ... my prayers are offered straight from my heart on your behalf. You both made a huge impression on me at the first Annapolis meeting. I know you love and trust the Lord, He is the Great Physician and He cares for you. If there is anything I can do for you contact me, pegishis@hotmail.com [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 29. "Prayers for you, Yellow Bird " Posted by mary99 on 21:10:15 8/03/2000 Yellow Bird, when we met at the MD meet, you lit up Holly's sundeck with grace and warmth. How sad to hear you are suffering now. Hope the pain subsides and you find relief without surgery. Will be thinking of you and sending prayers up for our Lady of the Limericks. mary99 [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 32. "Yellowbird" Posted by lilac on 21:55:55 8/03/2000 Like everyone before me has said, you'll be in my thoughts and prayers for this pain to cease and the condition to be treatable. Take care, both of you. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 30. "Prayers and healing thoughts" Posted by Slinky on 21:20:19 8/03/2000 going out for you, Yellow Bird. I will be praying that you will very soon be able to enjoy some relief from your pain. Hugs, Slinky [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 33. "Thank you" Posted by Yellow Bird on 02:41:24 8/04/2000 I am so moved by this thread and the responses from all of you I have tears in my eyes. I knew this JW family was special, but now it's reaffirmed. With your support and prayers along with my soulmate's love and understanding, I'm sure I'll get relief. I was on Tegretol for three days and that's what made me have the bad reaction. I did some research and found a new medication called Trilectal. It's suppose to be as good a Tegretol with less side effects. If the medication doesn't work, I'll have the Gamma Knife again. Thank you all again for your kind words, prayers, and support. We all know how strong prayer can be. Bless you all! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 34. "YB" Posted by Holly on 05:22:28 8/04/2000 Glad you are doing better! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 35. "My thoughts and prayers are with" Posted by sherryf135 on 06:04:12 8/04/2000 you and your husband. Yellowbird stay well. Thinking of you [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 36. "Yellowbird" Posted by Policedog on 06:11:47 8/04/2000 My heart is aching for you, and my prayers are on their way. Jerry, that was one of the most touching posts I've read. God bless you, too. [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 37. "YellowBird Update" Posted by jerryz on 15:41:06 8/04/2000 NOTE: This message was last edited 15:41:06, 8/04/2000 YellowBird, let's call her Bonnie, stayed home from work today. She feels better than yesterday, which is a positive. We went for an MRI of her head this afternoon. Results in a few days. They also have an MRI from two years ago with which to make comparisons. By way of background, the family physician put her on Tegretol on Tuesday. He was unaware of the Trileptal, which we requested. On Wednesday, the neurologist agreed and he changed the meds to Trileptal. It's new (FDA approval in 2/00), supposed to have all the strength of Tegretol, but with fewer of the side effects. We think it's the cause of her adverse reaction, since she's been slowly coming out of the nausea and grogginess since she's switched to trileptal. Bonnie thanked you for your outpouring of sentiment toward her and her problem. Let me add to that as well. Your kindness already has helped as I'm sure the prayers have and will. There were some questions or comments from some of you in this thread which require a response. Voyager - thank you for the web site. It seems to be a great one. We did/do a great deal of research on the web. There even is a TN site of which Bonnie is a member. Cassandra & Policedog - I bow in humility and thank you for your comments to me. Thanks! Starry - I gave her a hug for you! Thanks! LurkerXIV - Memorare is a favorite prayer. I have a special devotion to the BVM. Thanks! Maxi - Bonnie said neither heat nor popcorn would work for her. She can't even bear to touch her face during an attack. Thanks! FT - I don't think the -triptans would help her. Imitrex takes about 30 minutes to take effect. Bonnie's pain hopefully is at least starting to dissipate in that timeframe. Thanks for the suggestion though! Morgan - thanks for your web site. It also looks like a great one. Mary99 - I laughed out loud at the 'Lady of the Limericks' comment. Thanks! To Everyone - Again, Bonnie and I thank you for all of your prayers and kind words. You folks are the greatest! Jerry [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 38. "A touch" Posted by Coolteach on 15:47:26 8/04/2000 Hi Jerry and Yellow Bird, I just got in and read your thread, and I too wish you both the best. I sympathize with your pain and will also pray that you may have a divine touch from the Great Physician. Greetings from Coolteach [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 39. "Yellow Bird" Posted by ToppCat on 16:17:35 8/05/2000 Just got in from a road trip and saw the thread. Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you. TC (Frank) [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] 40. "Yellowbird..." Posted by Jellyjaws on 18:49:11 8/05/2000 I remember from many, many years ago hearing that one of the worst pains in the world was from a facial neuralgia called (Oh dear, don't hold me to the spelling!), "Tic-deux-la-rue." Is that close? I'm sending loving thoughts and prayers your way. I've loved your posts, and am just sorry I never introduced myself. You are a good friend to all of us. Hope your doctors find the right meds so that you find relief, and can hurry back to us. Love, Jelly! [ REMOVE ] [ ALERT ] [ EDIT ] [ REPLY ] [ REPLY WITH QUOTE ] [ TOP ] [ MAIN ] ARCHIVE REMOVE